Who Should Have The Right To Vote?

[Carla_Danger]

The Lying African gutted Clinton's welfare reform by removing the work requirement.

Bullshit

But a new Obama program does not end welfare-to-work mandates. To the contrary, it strengthens the requirements by granting waivers to states seeking to make the work requirements more successful. The waivers would be granted to pilot programs that are individually evaluated; HHS is not proposing a blanket national change to welfare law.

We rate that as FALSE!!!

Bob McDonnell says Obama is unwinding welfare-to-work requirements PolitiFact Virginia

Here's the truth about your so called "fact checkers":

Fact Checkers Shill for Obama s Gutting of Welfare Reform
You people are so full of shit.

Aha ha ha ha ha ha ha, BREITFART. No wonder NeoClowns are so stupid.

Does Obama 8217 s Plan 8216 Gut Welfare Reform 8217

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

The Lying African gutted Clinton's welfare reform by removing the work requirement.

Bullshit

But a new Obama program does not end welfare-to-work mandates. To the contrary, it strengthens the requirements by granting waivers to states seeking to make the work requirements more successful. The waivers would be granted to pilot programs that are individually evaluated; HHS is not proposing a blanket national change to welfare law.

We rate that as FALSE!!!

Bob McDonnell says Obama is unwinding welfare-to-work requirements PolitiFact Virginia

Here's the truth about your so called "fact checkers":

Fact Checkers Shill for Obama s Gutting of Welfare Reform
You people are so full of shit.

Aha ha ha ha ha ha ha, BREITFART. No wonder NeoClowns are so stupid.

Does Obama 8217 s Plan 8216 Gut Welfare Reform 8217

And you cited a Left wing site. I bet you're stupid enough to think it's more credible too.

 

[Carla_Danger]

The Lying African gutted Clinton's welfare reform by removing the work requirement.

Bullshit

But a new Obama program does not end welfare-to-work mandates. To the contrary, it strengthens the requirements by granting waivers to states seeking to make the work requirements more successful. The waivers would be granted to pilot programs that are individually evaluated; HHS is not proposing a blanket national change to welfare law.

We rate that as FALSE!!!

Bob McDonnell says Obama is unwinding welfare-to-work requirements PolitiFact Virginia

Here's the truth about your so called "fact checkers":

Fact Checkers Shill for Obama s Gutting of Welfare Reform
You people are so full of shit.

Aha ha ha ha ha ha ha, BREITFART. No wonder NeoClowns are so stupid.

Does Obama 8217 s Plan 8216 Gut Welfare Reform 8217

And you cited a Left wing site. I bet you're stupid enough to think it's more credible too.

No, you big dummy, Politifact and Factcheck are not liberal sites. I guess anything "left" of homicidal maniac is considered "left" by you.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

The Lying African gutted Clinton's welfare reform by removing the work requirement.

Bullshit

But a new Obama program does not end welfare-to-work mandates. To the contrary, it strengthens the requirements by granting waivers to states seeking to make the work requirements more successful. The waivers would be granted to pilot programs that are individually evaluated; HHS is not proposing a blanket national change to welfare law.

We rate that as FALSE!!!

Bob McDonnell says Obama is unwinding welfare-to-work requirements PolitiFact Virginia

Here's the truth about your so called "fact checkers":

Fact Checkers Shill for Obama s Gutting of Welfare Reform
You people are so full of shit.

Aha ha ha ha ha ha ha, BREITFART. No wonder NeoClowns are so stupid.

Does Obama 8217 s Plan 8216 Gut Welfare Reform 8217

And you cited a Left wing site. I bet you're stupid enough to think it's more credible too.

No, you big dummy, Politifact and Factcheck are not liberal sites.

Yes they are. PolitiFact Bias

 

[thereisnospoon]

We've come a long way in this country. At the start, voting laws were determined on a state by state basis. Many required land ownership for voting rights. Women and colored people were not necessarily excluded since they too have been landowners since well before the start of this country. The concept was that those who had no investment in this country should have no say in in our government, a concept not without merit.

These days it seems we've accepted this idiotic notion that everyone should be able to vote. It's created a serious conflict of interest when people dependent on government are able to vote to increase and sustain such dependence extorting the toils of the producers in this country.

So here's my proposal. Zero liability voters should be banned!

That's right. If you're a net consumer of government, you don't get to vote. It's perfectly fair since I'm the one paying taxes to fund your entitlements. This doesn't include people on Social Security. They paid into that and they deserve to draw from it. That isn't welfare.

But for those of you who pay ZERO taxes, who are on welfare, foodstamps, or disability, I don't hate you, I have no animosity toward you, but I don't think you should have the right to vote in this country.

Natural born citizens. Naturalized foreign born.
Must have gainful employment. Not on public assistance as the only source of income.
Must pass a 10 question basic civics test. Cannot have a felony criminal record.

 

[thereisnospoon]

The Lying African gutted Clinton's welfare reform by removing the work requirement.

Bullshit

But a new Obama program does not end welfare-to-work mandates. To the contrary, it strengthens the requirements by granting waivers to states seeking to make the work requirements more successful. The waivers would be granted to pilot programs that are individually evaluated; HHS is not proposing a blanket national change to welfare law.

We rate that as FALSE!!!

Bob McDonnell says Obama is unwinding welfare-to-work requirements PolitiFact Virginia

Here's the truth about your so called "fact checkers":

Fact Checkers Shill for Obama s Gutting of Welfare Reform
You people are so full of shit.

Aha ha ha ha ha ha ha, BREITFART. No wonder NeoClowns are so stupid.

Does Obama 8217 s Plan 8216 Gut Welfare Reform 8217

And you cited a Left wing site. I bet you're stupid enough to think it's more credible too.

No, you big dummy, Politifact and Factcheck are not liberal sites. I guess anything "left" of homicidal maniac is considered "left" by you.

Are you kidding? Factcheck.org has been caught on numerous occasions fudging data to the benefit of the liberal point of view.
Factcheck.org cannot be trusted.

 

[Carla_Danger]

Bullshit

But a new Obama program does not end welfare-to-work mandates. To the contrary, it strengthens the requirements by granting waivers to states seeking to make the work requirements more successful. The waivers would be granted to pilot programs that are individually evaluated; HHS is not proposing a blanket national change to welfare law.

We rate that as FALSE!!!

Bob McDonnell says Obama is unwinding welfare-to-work requirements PolitiFact Virginia

Here's the truth about your so called "fact checkers":

Fact Checkers Shill for Obama s Gutting of Welfare Reform
You people are so full of shit.

Aha ha ha ha ha ha ha, BREITFART. No wonder NeoClowns are so stupid.

Does Obama 8217 s Plan 8216 Gut Welfare Reform 8217

And you cited a Left wing site. I bet you're stupid enough to think it's more credible too.

No, you big dummy, Politifact and Factcheck are not liberal sites. I guess anything "left" of homicidal maniac is considered "left" by you.

Are you kidding? Factcheck.org has been caught on numerous occasions fudging data to the benefit of the liberal point of view.
Factcheck.org cannot be trusted.

Name them.

 

[Carla_Danger]

We've come a long way in this country. At the start, voting laws were determined on a state by state basis. Many required land ownership for voting rights. Women and colored people were not necessarily excluded since they too have been landowners since well before the start of this country. The concept was that those who had no investment in this country should have no say in in our government, a concept not without merit.

These days it seems we've accepted this idiotic notion that everyone should be able to vote. It's created a serious conflict of interest when people dependent on government are able to vote to increase and sustain such dependence extorting the toils of the producers in this country.

So here's my proposal. Zero liability voters should be banned!

That's right. If you're a net consumer of government, you don't get to vote. It's perfectly fair since I'm the one paying taxes to fund your entitlements. This doesn't include people on Social Security. They paid into that and they deserve to draw from it. That isn't welfare.

But for those of you who pay ZERO taxes, who are on welfare, foodstamps, or disability, I don't hate you, I have no animosity toward you, but I don't think you should have the right to vote in this country.

Natural born citizens. Naturalized foreign born.
Must have gainful employment. Not on public assistance as the only source of income.
Must pass a 10 question basic civics test. Cannot have a felony criminal record.

There went most of the NeoClown base.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Cool! Another USMB nutter has outlined the primary USMB nutter motivation. Fear that some lesser being is going to take their shit.

You mean you're not afraid when people are trying to take your "shit"?

Nope. I'm sane and secure. Answer the question in my sig line with a number. Lets find out how many people you wish to disenfranchise.

We already know the answer to your question, MILLIONS.

Really? How many millions? 2? 5? 10? More?

I'd love to see your supporting evidence.

Thanks!!

There are millions on welfare that are able bodied. Millions more that are able bodied drawing food stamps. Millions more that lost jobs over the last 7 years that have quit looking for work. We had millions on extended unemployment that were able bodied.

You only exhibit your ignorance as to what 'welfare' actually is.

SNAP, for example, is not 'welfare.'

Those who receive TANF are required to job search as a condition of continued eligibility. SNAP is a USDA food assistance program designed for low income working families.

And you have no idea as to the legal definition of what constitutes 'able bodied.'

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

You only exhibit your ignorance as to what 'welfare' actually is.

SNAP, for example, is not 'welfare.'

Those who receive TANF are required to job search as a condition of continued eligibility. SNAP is a USDA food assistance program designed for low income working families.

And you have no idea as to the legal definition of what constitutes 'able bodied.'

It's actually you who doesn't understand what welfare is. It's any subsidy taken from the treasury of taxpayer revenues and redistributed to those who are deemed in need of it. It isn't a salary for work, it isn't earned benefits, it's "free money" that was extracted from the toils of others. Whether it comes in the form of foodstamps, welfare checks, utility assistance, or Obamaphones matters not. The form that redistribution takes is utterly irrelevant.

 

[candycorn]

If a farmer is receiving government subsidies to farm....should he be allowed to vote?

The farmer wants to farm. The gov doesnt want him to.
So who do you blame?
But I'll say no,he shouldnt be able to vote if he's just sitting back and collecting a check for nothing. Thats no different than welfare.

So you want more government agents fanning out across the nation to interview people to see if they "really" want to work?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

If a farmer is receiving government subsidies to farm....should he be allowed to vote?

The farmer wants to farm. The gov doesnt want him to.
So who do you blame?
But I'll say no,he shouldnt be able to vote if he's just sitting back and collecting a check for nothing. Thats no different than welfare.

Your ignorance of public assistance programs is consistent with that of other conservatives; and you and others on the right sound ridiculous accordingly.

 

[candycorn]

All of us are warmed by fires started by others.

Do you think you've paid enough in Federal income taxes to build a Destroyer or Interstate 5? How about the Hoover Dam or Space Shuttle Endeavor? Sadly, you haven't. Not sad because you haven't paid a hundred million in taxes but sad because some of you are under the delusion that you have.
So let's keep the "I've earned everything I've got" nonsense to a minimum; shall we?

 

[hazlnut]

We've come a long way in this country. At the start, voting laws were determined on a state by state basis. Many required land ownership for voting rights. Women and colored people were not necessarily excluded since they too have been landowners since well before the start of this country. The concept was that those who had no investment in this country should have no say in in our government, a concept not without merit.

These days it seems we've accepted this idiotic notion that everyone should be able to vote. It's created a serious conflict of interest when people dependent on government are able to vote to increase and sustain such dependence extorting the toils of the producers in this country.

So here's my proposal. Zero liability voters should be banned!

That's right. If you're a net consumer of government, you don't get to vote. It's perfectly fair since I'm the one paying taxes to fund your entitlements. This doesn't include people on Social Security. They paid into that and they deserve to draw from it. That isn't welfare.

But for those of you who pay ZERO taxes, who are on welfare, foodstamps, or disability, I don't hate you, I have no animosity toward you, but I don't think you should have the right to vote in this country.

Micheal Savage is racist c*nt who attracts much of the same to his pathetic show.

We should ban old racists and homophobic faux "Christians" from voting.

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

Should rich people who pay zero taxes be permitted to vote? People with large amounts of debt? Where does this foolishness end?

I'll pass on the apartheid, thanks. Too much of a slippery slope to regulate and too much government interferance.

What happened to small government?

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

It's an old idea that I agree with, but it will never come to pass. For one thing, the people you want to take the vote away from now have the right to vote. The chances that they will give up their right to vote are non-existent.

But they don't have that right. This is the problem, the Left so thoroughly rewriting U.S. history that even people on our side can get confused. States have always determined voting rights and never was there entertained such a foolish notion that any jackass with a heartbeat should be able to vote. The 15th and 19th Amendments, which extended voting rights to former slaves and women respectively, still did not establish the Leftist myth that EVERYONE can vote, even wetbacks who jumped the border.

And speaking of Constitutional Amendments, we can certainly pass one. It hasn't gone unnoticed that with the bulk of state legislatures being GOP controlled, we are coming very close to the point we can initiate an Article 5 convention and begin to take our country back from the statist Left.

Not everyone is allowed to own a gun. Does that mean there is no such thing a gun rights?

I know I have to explain this to you because, as a Leftard, you've never read the Constitution. There's a specific right to own a gun in the Constitution, but there is no right to vote.

There are specific rights to vote in the Constitution.

The importance of the constitution veries widly, depending on the topic, evidently.

 

[rightwinger]

Should rich people who pay zero taxes be permitted to vote? People with large amounts of debt? Where does this foolishness end?

I'll pass on the apartheid, thanks. Too much of a slippery slope to regulate and too much government interferance.

What happened to small government?

Their point is that poor people should not be allowed to vote for people who give them "free stuff". But wealthy people who get more "free stuff" than anyone else are looked at as the ideal voter

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

Should rich people who pay zero taxes be permitted to vote? People with large amounts of debt? Where does this foolishness end?

I'll pass on the apartheid, thanks. Too much of a slippery slope to regulate and too much government interferance.

What happened to small government?

Their point is that poor people should not be allowed to vote for people who give them "free stuff". But wealthy people who get more "free stuff" than anyone else are looked at as the ideal voter

It's beyond ridiculous to think that laws will change just so that rich people can get even richer.

What's the point? Will it make the country better? No, it will cause more poverty and more division.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

So they receive all their monies from welfare and yet they pay taxes?
How so?

The Leftards on this thread seem to think that paying cigarette and sales tax at the local 7/11 makes welfare people productive, taxpaying members of society. Yes, they're that vacuous.

Yeah....there's nothing like receiving free money from the government and than giving it right back in the form of taxes.

Not people who solely rely on welfare.
And I dare you to refute that.

They God damn sure do pay taxes.

So they receive all their monies from welfare and yet they pay taxes?
How so?

Sales tax, property tax, excise tax or perhaps embedded taxes.

Well Carla,I see you agree with this post. Which makes you dumber than a bag of hammers.
So tell me Carla...how does one pay taxes on a purchase when all their money comes from the tax payers?

You're so wrong, on so many levels. I'm wondering if you have velcro instead of shoe laces.

Over 1 million dollars worth of SNAP were used at military commissaries in 2013. Do they not work hard enough for you?

Next, you don't know that all of their money comes from tax payers. A person applying for assistance may have just lost a job. Cash assistance is very temporary. Every state is different, but in my state, you must attend a work program in order to receive ANY cash assistance.

Fact: The welfare reform law that was signed by President Clinton in 1996 largely turned control over welfare benefits to the states, but the federal government provides some of the funding for state welfare programs through a program called Temporary Assistance For Needy Families (TANF). TANF grants to states require that all welfare recipients must find work within two years of first receiving benefits. This includes single parents, who are required to work at least 30 hours per week. Two-parent families are required to work 35 to 50 hours per week. Failure to obtain work could result in loss of benefits. It is also worth noting that, thanks to the pay offerings of companies such as Walmart, many who work at low wage jobs qualify for public assistance, even though they work full-time.

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Why do you constantly change what I say?
If your only income is welfare you pay no taxes.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Should rich people who pay zero taxes be permitted to vote? People with large amounts of debt? Where does this foolishness end?

I'll pass on the apartheid, thanks. Too much of a slippery slope to regulate and too much government interferance.

What happened to small government?

Their point is that poor people should not be allowed to vote for people who give them "free stuff". But wealthy people who get more "free stuff" than anyone else are looked at as the ideal voter

Wealthy people pay taxes,and most dont get shit back. Enlighten me,what do I get back for my tax dollars?
People on welfare pay nothing.