Zone1 Who Say That They are Jews and are Not

[Hafar1014]

I would agree that 'all people have a chance for heaven'. And, this is important, the invitation is offered to all. Jesus Christ is offered to all. It is a legitimate invitation because Jesus Christ died for all. All means all. In other words, your sins and everyone else's sins in the whole world from Adam to till now, have been paid for in Jesus Christ. Whether one accepts Christ or not is immaterial to the fact that their sins have been paid for.

You are correct that many Christians are not as tolerant as other religions and also of other 'so called Christians'. If any 'Christian' believes there is a way to Heaven without Jesus Christ, they are in contradiction with our Bible. (John 3:17-18) "For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."

(John 14:6) "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."

(Acts 4:12) "Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.'

Let me ask you...do you find God 'tolerant' in your Old Testament Scripture?

Quantrill

The afterlife is not sectarian and that doesnt even make any sense because it existed long before any religion. The idea that ony a seelct few go is infantile thinking.

 

[JoeB131]

Gee, is that why you went to Church?

No, I went to church because that's how I was brought up.
I left after I realized it was horse-puckey.

If they are illegal they are criminals.

No, they are regular people trying to get through life.

We have a will and God honors that will. But our will isn't free. Only God has 'free will'.

Uh, huh, if you need to grovel in front of an imaginary fairy in the sky, that's on you.

 

[BreezeWood]

no, what you describe is new and comes from the jews themselves as attested throughout this thread - they have no remorse for their crimes and claim the heaves as their own and provider. lots of luck in your beliefs you are not alone.

Another sniveling Jew hating message board rodent

a sniveling jew - rodent ...

typical jew mischaracterizing a heavenly being to satisfy their own degenerative religion, judaism to impress their followers.

 

[Meriweather]

I did seek God.
I went to church asking for my mom's cancer to get better.
It didn't.
No God.

Precisely, what did that prove to you: That God does not exist, or that God exists, but he is of absolutely no use to you since He does not behave like a genii, granting your every prayer request? (Inquiring minds want to know.)

 

[DennisPTate]

In Revelation 2:9 and Revelation 3:9, who is John of Patmos calling the impostors in the Jewish community?

Once, not even that long ago, I would have said the Zealots and other Jewish insurrectionists. Jesus said their generation was wicked (Mt 12:39; 16:4; Lk 11:29). Josephus said they were guilty of the greatest madness (Wars 7.8.1).

But were the Zealots and Idumeans the subjects of John’s accusation? Maybe it was all the Jews who did not follow Christ? The Judaizers and even the moderate Jews?

In its historical context, Revelation is easy to comprehend. This is perhaps my one lingering question.

I believe that former Atheist and near death experiencer Rabbi Alon Anava did a series of lectures on what this means.

 

[BreezeWood]

Jews were persecuted because we know there is no original sin in Genesis which means there was never a reason for Jesus to exist as a god. Hes an idol

what jesus said to the jews during their trial ... hereditary idolatry is the basis for abraham, the reason jews worship him.

Abraham was the idol destroyer

to bad jews defer to themselves were that the case ... making abraham nothing more than a figurehead.

 

[Meriweather]

Well, how much free will do you actually have if you are using a book of bronze age superstition to guide your life?

Misrepresenting the Bible doesn't work with many of us. The Bible is an example of great stories, poetry, and songs. It also contains wisdom still in play down through every age. It has been a wonderful guide, a great teacher in many, many lives--mine included. But then, I read it from the perspective (and languages) of the original authors' points of view to their original audiences.

Your own interpretation of "superstition" is your excuse not to bother with it. No excuse needed, but there is usually an interesting sidebar when someone takes the trouble to distort the reality.

 

[BreezeWood]

It's all based on the written Word of God as found in the Bible and a person's faith that what the read is true. God gave everyone free will. He forces nobody to believe in Him.

really ....

they included the false commandments of judaism into the christian bible for that very purpose to persecute and victimize the innocent - the heavens sent the magi to protect mary from the stone throwing jews the very reason for the 1st century events, jesus and their repudiation of judaism.

I could ask you to "prove" lots of things you believe but it would be a fruitless endeavor.

the written word ... the three desert religions - their languages and meanings no longer exist.

the spoken religion of antiquity, goal of the heavens granted to a&e for their choice of self determination is only six words in length - the triumph of good vs evil - the means to acquire judgement and admission to the everlasting. its reenactment during the time of noah and remains the heavenly prescription to free ones spirit to this day.

freely interpreted in any language and is immortal.

 

[BreezeWood]

Merriweather has been nothing but respectful and has said that Jews have a way to Heaven WITHOUT Jesus.

obviously that's their belief when they murdered him -

than prove both moses and abraham were not the same claiming their association w/ the heavens the jews denied for jesus as what jesus made known during their trial.

 

[JoeB131]

Precisely, what did that prove to you: That God does not exist, or that God exists, but he is of absolutely no use to you since He does not behave like a genii, granting your every prayer request? (Inquiring minds want to know.)

Oh, it absolutely proved he didn't exist.

At least for me.

Since this thread is about the Jews, who are supposedly God's chosen people, um, where was God when Hitler was doing his thing? I mean, the Jews should be happy that the godless commie Red Army showed up, or none of them would have survived.

I'm sure they prayed every night while their loved ones were being taken to the gas chambers to no avail.

 

[Meriweather]

Oh, it absolutely proved he didn't exist.

At least for me.

Since this thread is about the Jews, who are supposedly God's chosen people, um, where was God when Hitler was doing his thing? I mean, the Jews should be happy that the godless commie Red Army showed up, or none of them would have survived.

I'm sure they prayed every night while their loved ones were being taken to the gas chambers to no avail.

Where is anyone when the rich and powerful are doing their things? Basically, looking around for someone to stop them--and what can a single person do? Sometimes enough to help a single victim, but not enough to stop a holocaust. Fights over who is the rightful king has caused thousands upon thousands of deaths. Those who would not support/follow the ways of self-appointed leaders died by the millions. What is a single person to do against all of that?

 

[DennisPTate]

Where is anyone when the rich and powerful are doing their things? Basically, looking around for someone to stop them--and what can a single person do? Sometimes enough to help a single victim, but not enough to stop a holocaust. Fights over who is the rightful king has caused thousands upon thousands of deaths. Those who would not support/follow the ways of self-appointed leaders died by the millions. What is a single person to do against all of that?

A former Atheist basically asked that same question and got this reply.

[Howard Storm] :

If we change the way we are, then we can change the future which they showed me. They showed me a view of the future, at the time of my experience, based upon how we in the United States were behaving at that time. It was a future in which a massive worldwide depression would occur. If we were to change our behavior, however, then the future would be different.

Asking them how it would be possible to change the course of many people, I observed that it was difficult, if not impossible, to change anything on Earth. I expressed the opinion that it was a hopeless task to try.

My friends explained, quite clearly, that all it takes to make a change was one person. One person, trying, and then because of that, another person changing for the better. They said that the only way to change the world was to begin with one person. One will become two, which will become three, and so on. That’s the only way to affect a major change.

I inquired as to where the world would be going in an optimistic future one where some of the changes they desired were to take place.

The image of the future that they gave me then, and it was their image, not one that I created, surprised me. My image had previously been sort of like Star Wars, where everything was space age, plastics, and technology.

The future that they showed me was almost no technology at all. What everybody, absolutely everybody, in this euphoric future spent most of their time doing was raising children. The chief concern of people was children, and everybody considered children to be the most precious commodity in the world.

And when a person became an adult, there was no sense of anxiety, nor hatred, nor competition.

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[Carl in Michigan]

erriweather has been nothing but respectful and has said that Jews have a way to Heaven WITHOUT Jesus.

Merriweather is filled with LIES and ignorance

If you deny Me before men, I will deny you before my Father in heaven --Jesus

If you don't want to be called antichrist, don't attack everyone and his brother with your damn "antisemite" garbage.

 

[Quantrill]

Since this thread is about the Jews, who are supposedly God's chosen people, um, where was God when Hitler was doing his thing? I mean, the Jews should be happy that the godless commie Red Army showed up, or none of them would have survived.

I'm sure they prayed every night while their loved ones were being taken to the gas chambers to no avail.

God was in the same place He was when His Son was being crucified.

Quantrill

 

[Quantrill]

No, I went to church because that's how I was brought up.
I left after I realized it was horse-puckey.


No, they are regular people trying to get through life.


Uh, huh, if you need to grovel in front of an imaginary fairy in the sky, that's on you.

And the church was better off.

Being a person doesn't make one a legal immigrant.

Yes, I do need to bow before God and Jesus Christ, for He alone is worthy to be worshipped. God is so worthy of our worship, it is wrong to not worship Him.

It is strange that the only creature who bad mouths God in all of creation is fallen man. The demons don't. Fallen angels don't. Satan doesn't. Only puny little fallen man.

Quantrill

 

[Lisa558]

Merriweather is filled with LIES and ignorance

If you deny Me before men, I will deny you before my Father in heaven --Jesus

If you don't want to be called antichrist, don't attack everyone and his brother with your damn "antisemite" garbage.

Damn but you one stubborn, arrogant, nasty Christian. Merriweather is the type of Christian that Jesus wanted his fellow Jews to be!

You actually think that quoting the New Testament to a Jew, with a statement that Jesus likely never said, is “proof” of anything? No good Jew would ever say such a thing. It violates Gd’s edict that He is One.

You actually shows disdain for Jews because they won’t believe what YOU insist and tons of hostility. And yes, that is antisemitic.

 

[JoeB131]

Where is anyone when the rich and powerful are doing their things? Basically, looking around for someone to stop them--and what can a single person do? Sometimes enough to help a single victim, but not enough to stop a holocaust. Fights over who is the rightful king has caused thousands upon thousands of deaths. Those who would not support/follow the ways of self-appointed leaders died by the millions. What is a single person to do against all of that?

Wait, now, you can't call your God the "Almighty" and then claim he couldn't have stopped the Holocaust.

Here's how God could have stopped the Holocaust.

November 9th, 1923. Instead of just hitting Hitler in the arm, a stray bullet gets him right between the eyes.

No Holocaust.

That was simple.

So if God is good, why did the Holocaust happen?

 

[Hafar1014]

Wait, now, you can't call your God the "Almighty" and then claim he couldn't have stopped the Holocaust.

Here's how God could have stopped the Holocaust.

November 9th, 1923. Instead of just hitting Hitler in the arm, a stray bullet gets him right between the eyes.

No Holocaust.

That was simple.

So if God is good, why did the Holocaust happen?

Because our reality is free not controlled and anything can happen to anyone. If we want just world we have to create it. God didnt create us to be like ants or bees

 

[JoeB131]

Because our reality is free not controlled and anything can happen to anyone. If we want just world we have to create it. God didnt create us to be like ants or bees

So going back to Epicurus.

 

[JoeB131]

So going back to Epicurus.

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Not to worry, though, God is always out there making sure the right team wins football games, though.