Who is Bernie Sanders?

[Mac1958]

'Consumed by the echo chamber' is the chant of the mindless groping for credibility.

I'm just a guy on a message board offering observations.

You're getting angry and defensive and insulting.

If you think the Right is helping itself, great, keep going.

Meanwhile, the country continues to move Left.
.

 

[Iceweasel]

'Consumed by the echo chamber' is the chant of the mindless groping for credibility.

I'm just a guy on a message board offering observations.

You're getting angry and defensive and insulting.

If you think the Right is helping itself, great, keep going.

Meanwhile, the country continues to move Left.
.

I called you a liar for a reason, so here you are doubling down on it. Losers try to define others' emotional state in order to feel better about themselves. I don't need to misrepresent others. You lie, therefore you are a liar. Period. The country moves left because of liars that constantly misrepresent the truth. You are part of the problem, not me.

 

[Mac1958]

'Consumed by the echo chamber' is the chant of the mindless groping for credibility.

I'm just a guy on a message board offering observations.

You're getting angry and defensive and insulting.

If you think the Right is helping itself, great, keep going.

Meanwhile, the country continues to move Left.
.

I called you a liar for a reason, so here you are doubling down on it. Losers try to define others' emotional state in order to feel better about themselves. I don't need to misrepresent others. You lie, therefore you are a liar. Period. The country moves left because of liars that constantly misrepresent the truth. You are part of the problem, not me.

Just a couple of posts ago, you yourself talked about socialism:

"I should put this in my signature because the left is constantly re-branding socialism to make the sale."

Those are your words, proving my point.

This was just a few minutes ago.

How do you not see this?
.

 

[Iceweasel]

'Consumed by the echo chamber' is the chant of the mindless groping for credibility.

I'm just a guy on a message board offering observations.

You're getting angry and defensive and insulting.

If you think the Right is helping itself, great, keep going.

Meanwhile, the country continues to move Left.
.

I called you a liar for a reason, so here you are doubling down on it. Losers try to define others' emotional state in order to feel better about themselves. I don't need to misrepresent others. You lie, therefore you are a liar. Period. The country moves left because of liars that constantly misrepresent the truth. You are part of the problem, not me.

Just a couple of posts ago, you yourself talked about socialism:

"I should put this in my signature because the left is constantly re-branding socialism to make the sale."

Those are your words, proving my point.

This was just a few minutes ago.

How do you not see this?
.

It proves you're an idiot. I don't know what you think it proves.

 

[Mac1958]

'Consumed by the echo chamber' is the chant of the mindless groping for credibility.

I'm just a guy on a message board offering observations.

You're getting angry and defensive and insulting.

If you think the Right is helping itself, great, keep going.

Meanwhile, the country continues to move Left.
.

I called you a liar for a reason, so here you are doubling down on it. Losers try to define others' emotional state in order to feel better about themselves. I don't need to misrepresent others. You lie, therefore you are a liar. Period. The country moves left because of liars that constantly misrepresent the truth. You are part of the problem, not me.

Just a couple of posts ago, you yourself talked about socialism:

"I should put this in my signature because the left is constantly re-branding socialism to make the sale."

Those are your words, proving my point.

This was just a few minutes ago.

How do you not see this?
.

It proves you're an idiot. I don't know what you think it proves.

Okay.
.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Looks like the people of Iowa didn't fall for all the efforts to assassinate the character of Sen. Sanders, and the effort of many of those above to comport his idea of democratic socialism into the totalitarianism which exists in N. Korea, Russia and China.

Fear mongering is the game of those who cannot or will not consider how and why so many Iowans supported Sen. Sanders.

The greater threat to our nation and its people is not the rising debt, that is a canard; it is the attack on ideas and the failure to define problems and allow civil debate to consider the universe of potential solutions.

You've seen no debate or discussion and don't give a shit how deep we bury ourselves in debt. You're another one detached from reality.

We don't bury ourselves in debt. It is The Congress which should be responsible and isn't, Being responsible does not mean being conservative, it means establishing priorities and leading by example.

The reality challenged are those who think cutting the budget and cutting taxes will create fiscal sanity, they won't. And, never do they think about cost benefits and cost deficits associated with across the board cuts (which never include cuts to the salary and benefits of members of Congress); some actually believe a balanced budget amendment is the panacea for fiscal policy. It isn't.

A budget is simply a plan, one which needs to be modified and supplemented when unforeseen events intrude.

Our current debt is manageable, we have never defaulted and there is no balloon payment due. Thus the hysteria of the debt is simply a canard, and something the hysterical fear mongers use as a wedge issue and point fingers at Democrats when the problem is systemic.

How can it be fixed?

Amend COTUS and give POTUS the Line-Item Veto

 

[Iceweasel]

Looks like the people of Iowa didn't fall for all the efforts to assassinate the character of Sen. Sanders, and the effort of many of those above to comport his idea of democratic socialism into the totalitarianism which exists in N. Korea, Russia and China.

Fear mongering is the game of those who cannot or will not consider how and why so many Iowans supported Sen. Sanders.

The greater threat to our nation and its people is not the rising debt, that is a canard; it is the attack on ideas and the failure to define problems and allow civil debate to consider the universe of potential solutions.

You've seen no debate or discussion and don't give a shit how deep we bury ourselves in debt. You're another one detached from reality.

We don't bury ourselves in debt. It is The Congress which should be responsible and isn't, Being responsible does not mean being conservative, it means establishing priorities and leading by example.

The reality challenged are those who think cutting the budget and cutting taxes will create fiscal sanity, they won't. And, never do they think about cost benefits and cost deficits associated with across the board cuts (which never include cuts to the salary and benefits of members of Congress); some actually believe a balanced budget amendment is the panacea for fiscal policy. It isn't.

A budget is simply a plan, one which needs to be modified and supplemented when unforeseen events intrude.

Our current debt is manageable, we have never defaulted and there is no balloon payment due. Thus the hysteria of the debt is simply a canard, and something the hysterical fear mongers use as a wedge issue and point fingers at Democrats when the problem is systemic.

How can it be fixed?

Amend COTUS and give POTUS the Line-Item Veto

20 trillion in debt isn't fear mongering. You mentioned absolutely nothing about decreasing spending so you want the trend to continue. We pay a high percent on interest payment alone. Who's going to pay it off? Those working and entering the work force, their taxes will go up even higher than it is. And then their kids....

 

[Votto]

Who here agrees with this quote from Bernie?

"The incident only hardened Sanders' skepticism of corporate power. Television, Sanders wrote in 1979, was a particularly pernicious evil, rooted in "the well-tested Hitlerian principle that people should be treated as morons and bombarded over and over again with the same simple phrases and ideas." Television stations were "attempting to brainwash people into submission and helplessness"

Is corporate America equivalent to Nazism? Could they be purified by having government take them over?

Funny how he repeats the same simple phrase and idea over and over

"Free shit for everyone. Free shit for everyone. Free shit for everyone!!!"

It's like fishing. You can catch the same fish on the same lure about a million different times. They just never learn.

 

[Votto]

Looks like the people of Iowa didn't fall for all the efforts to assassinate the character of Sen. Sanders, and the effort of many of those above to comport his idea of democratic socialism into the totalitarianism which exists in N. Korea, Russia and China.

Fear mongering is the game of those who cannot or will not consider how and why so many Iowans supported Sen. Sanders.

The greater threat to our nation and its people is not the rising debt, that is a canard; it is the attack on ideas and the failure to define problems and allow civil debate to consider the universe of potential solutions.

You've seen no debate or discussion and don't give a shit how deep we bury ourselves in debt. You're another one detached from reality.

We don't bury ourselves in debt. It is The Congress which should be responsible and isn't, Being responsible does not mean being conservative, it means establishing priorities and leading by example.

The reality challenged are those who think cutting the budget and cutting taxes will create fiscal sanity, they won't. And, never do they think about cost benefits and cost deficits associated with across the board cuts (which never include cuts to the salary and benefits of members of Congress); some actually believe a balanced budget amendment is the panacea for fiscal policy. It isn't.

A budget is simply a plan, one which needs to be modified and supplemented when unforeseen events intrude.

Our current debt is manageable, we have never defaulted and there is no balloon payment due. Thus the hysteria of the debt is simply a canard, and something the hysterical fear mongers use as a wedge issue and point fingers at Democrats when the problem is systemic.

How can it be fixed?

Amend COTUS and give POTUS the Line-Item Veto

There are no constraints for spending, nor does taxation have anything to do with spending.

The Federal government will spend an "x" number of dollars regardless of money it brings in. What money they don't bring in to pay for things they simply have the Fed print.

It's like Dick Cheney once said, deficits no longer matter. It's just worthless monopoly money and voodoo economics.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Looks like the people of Iowa didn't fall for all the efforts to assassinate the character of Sen. Sanders, and the effort of many of those above to comport his idea of democratic socialism into the totalitarianism which exists in N. Korea, Russia and China.

Fear mongering is the game of those who cannot or will not consider how and why so many Iowans supported Sen. Sanders.

The greater threat to our nation and its people is not the rising debt, that is a canard; it is the attack on ideas and the failure to define problems and allow civil debate to consider the universe of potential solutions.

You've seen no debate or discussion and don't give a shit how deep we bury ourselves in debt. You're another one detached from reality.

We don't bury ourselves in debt. It is The Congress which should be responsible and isn't, Being responsible does not mean being conservative, it means establishing priorities and leading by example.

The reality challenged are those who think cutting the budget and cutting taxes will create fiscal sanity, they won't. And, never do they think about cost benefits and cost deficits associated with across the board cuts (which never include cuts to the salary and benefits of members of Congress); some actually believe a balanced budget amendment is the panacea for fiscal policy. It isn't.

A budget is simply a plan, one which needs to be modified and supplemented when unforeseen events intrude.

Our current debt is manageable, we have never defaulted and there is no balloon payment due. Thus the hysteria of the debt is simply a canard, and something the hysterical fear mongers use as a wedge issue and point fingers at Democrats when the problem is systemic.

How can it be fixed?

Amend COTUS and give POTUS the Line-Item Veto

20 trillion in debt isn't fear mongering. You mentioned absolutely nothing about decreasing spending so you want the trend to continue. We pay a high percent on interest payment alone. Who's going to pay it off? Those working and entering the work force, their taxes will go up even higher than it is. And then their kids....

I didn't? Gee, maybe I should have spelled it out for a concrete thinker such as you.

POTUS, if given the Line-Item Veto will have the authority to cut spending on items unnecessary & wasteful (remember the Bridge to no where, and years ago Wisconsin Senator William Proxmire who awarded a monthly Golden Fleece Award?).

See:

Golden Fleece Awards, 1975-1987 :: Turning Points in Wisconsin History

And read my post again, better yet, have someone else read it and explain it to you.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Looks like the people of Iowa didn't fall for all the efforts to assassinate the character of Sen. Sanders, and the effort of many of those above to comport his idea of democratic socialism into the totalitarianism which exists in N. Korea, Russia and China.

Fear mongering is the game of those who cannot or will not consider how and why so many Iowans supported Sen. Sanders.

The greater threat to our nation and its people is not the rising debt, that is a canard; it is the attack on ideas and the failure to define problems and allow civil debate to consider the universe of potential solutions.

You've seen no debate or discussion and don't give a shit how deep we bury ourselves in debt. You're another one detached from reality.

We don't bury ourselves in debt. It is The Congress which should be responsible and isn't, Being responsible does not mean being conservative, it means establishing priorities and leading by example.

The reality challenged are those who think cutting the budget and cutting taxes will create fiscal sanity, they won't. And, never do they think about cost benefits and cost deficits associated with across the board cuts (which never include cuts to the salary and benefits of members of Congress); some actually believe a balanced budget amendment is the panacea for fiscal policy. It isn't.

A budget is simply a plan, one which needs to be modified and supplemented when unforeseen events intrude.

Our current debt is manageable, we have never defaulted and there is no balloon payment due. Thus the hysteria of the debt is simply a canard, and something the hysterical fear mongers use as a wedge issue and point fingers at Democrats when the problem is systemic.

How can it be fixed?

Amend COTUS and give POTUS the Line-Item Veto

There are no constraints for spending, nor does taxation have anything to do with spending.

The Federal government will spend an "x" number of dollars regardless of money it brings in. What money they don't bring in to pay for things they simply have the Fed print.

It's like Dick Cheney once said, deficits no longer matter. It's just worthless monopoly money and voodoo economics.

Are you nuts? Just curious, your posts are bizarre.

The Line-Item Veto is a constraint which many state governors employ, some judiciously and some politically. But no matter how it is used, the buck stops at the desk of one person, who can be held accountable by the people and The Congress can override each veto imposed by POTUS they want restored, keeping the people informed on what has become a secretive process.

Done in the daylight with full exposure such a process would inform the public and constrain the power elite.

 

[Iceweasel]

Looks like the people of Iowa didn't fall for all the efforts to assassinate the character of Sen. Sanders, and the effort of many of those above to comport his idea of democratic socialism into the totalitarianism which exists in N. Korea, Russia and China.

Fear mongering is the game of those who cannot or will not consider how and why so many Iowans supported Sen. Sanders.

The greater threat to our nation and its people is not the rising debt, that is a canard; it is the attack on ideas and the failure to define problems and allow civil debate to consider the universe of potential solutions.

You've seen no debate or discussion and don't give a shit how deep we bury ourselves in debt. You're another one detached from reality.

We don't bury ourselves in debt. It is The Congress which should be responsible and isn't, Being responsible does not mean being conservative, it means establishing priorities and leading by example.

The reality challenged are those who think cutting the budget and cutting taxes will create fiscal sanity, they won't. And, never do they think about cost benefits and cost deficits associated with across the board cuts (which never include cuts to the salary and benefits of members of Congress); some actually believe a balanced budget amendment is the panacea for fiscal policy. It isn't.

A budget is simply a plan, one which needs to be modified and supplemented when unforeseen events intrude.

Our current debt is manageable, we have never defaulted and there is no balloon payment due. Thus the hysteria of the debt is simply a canard, and something the hysterical fear mongers use as a wedge issue and point fingers at Democrats when the problem is systemic.

How can it be fixed?

Amend COTUS and give POTUS the Line-Item Veto

20 trillion in debt isn't fear mongering. You mentioned absolutely nothing about decreasing spending so you want the trend to continue. We pay a high percent on interest payment alone. Who's going to pay it off? Those working and entering the work force, their taxes will go up even higher than it is. And then their kids....

I didn't? Gee, maybe I should have spelled it out for a concrete thinker such as you.

POTUS, if given the Line-Item Veto will have the authority to cut spending on items unnecessary & wasteful (remember the Bridge to no where, and years ago Wisconsin Senator William Proxmire who awarded a monthly Golden Fleece Award?).

See:

Golden Fleece Awards, 1975-1987 :: Turning Points in Wisconsin History

And read my post again, better yet, have someone else read it and explain it to you.

You brought up the line item veto, not me. Your claim is that it would reduce spending but it's Democrats that won't let it become a reality. Fail.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Looks like the people of Iowa didn't fall for all the efforts to assassinate the character of Sen. Sanders, and the effort of many of those above to comport his idea of democratic socialism into the totalitarianism which exists in N. Korea, Russia and China.

Fear mongering is the game of those who cannot or will not consider how and why so many Iowans supported Sen. Sanders.

The greater threat to our nation and its people is not the rising debt, that is a canard; it is the attack on ideas and the failure to define problems and allow civil debate to consider the universe of potential solutions.

You've seen no debate or discussion and don't give a shit how deep we bury ourselves in debt. You're another one detached from reality.

We don't bury ourselves in debt. It is The Congress which should be responsible and isn't, Being responsible does not mean being conservative, it means establishing priorities and leading by example.

The reality challenged are those who think cutting the budget and cutting taxes will create fiscal sanity, they won't. And, never do they think about cost benefits and cost deficits associated with across the board cuts (which never include cuts to the salary and benefits of members of Congress); some actually believe a balanced budget amendment is the panacea for fiscal policy. It isn't.

A budget is simply a plan, one which needs to be modified and supplemented when unforeseen events intrude.

Our current debt is manageable, we have never defaulted and there is no balloon payment due. Thus the hysteria of the debt is simply a canard, and something the hysterical fear mongers use as a wedge issue and point fingers at Democrats when the problem is systemic.

How can it be fixed?

Amend COTUS and give POTUS the Line-Item Veto

20 trillion in debt isn't fear mongering. You mentioned absolutely nothing about decreasing spending so you want the trend to continue. We pay a high percent on interest payment alone. Who's going to pay it off? Those working and entering the work force, their taxes will go up even higher than it is. And then their kids....

I didn't? Gee, maybe I should have spelled it out for a concrete thinker such as you.

POTUS, if given the Line-Item Veto will have the authority to cut spending on items unnecessary & wasteful (remember the Bridge to no where, and years ago Wisconsin Senator William Proxmire who awarded a monthly Golden Fleece Award?).

See:

Golden Fleece Awards, 1975-1987 :: Turning Points in Wisconsin History

And read my post again, better yet, have someone else read it and explain it to you.

You brought up the line item veto, not me. Your claim is that it would reduce spending but it's Democrats that won't let it become a reality. Fail.

Wrong again. Your ignorance on issues even amazes me.

Clinton v. City of New York - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The 1996 Line Item Veto Act

 

[francoHFW]

Socialism has been defined around the world since at least WWII as always democratic, basically fair capitalism with a good safety net and sometimes nationalization of certain necessary-for-life industries (Health care, energy). Only Cold War dinosaur Pub dupes have your idiotic problem.

I should put this in my signature because the left is constantly re-branding socialism to make the sale.

Definition of SOCIALISM
: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods

That isn't democratic by any stretch of the imagination, nor has it ever been fair. Power corrupts and those that have it will misuse it. Our only hope for prosperity is to defeat the lying left before they do so much harm we're screwed for life, because no amount of evidence or examples will sway them from their foolhardy beliefs.

It's also bs and incredibly shallow. lol. Breaking- It's not communism, which has never been democratic or put in without violence, and is basically dead.

 

[francoHFW]

Socialism has been defined around the world since at least WWII as always democratic, basically fair capitalism with a good safety net and sometimes nationalization of certain necessary-for-life industries (Health care, energy). Only Cold War dinosaur Pub dupes have your idiotic problem.

I should put this in my signature because the left is constantly re-branding socialism to make the sale.

Definition of SOCIALISM
: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods

That isn't democratic by any stretch of the imagination, nor has it ever been fair. Power corrupts and those that have it will misuse it. Our only hope for prosperity is to defeat the lying left before they do so much harm we're screwed for life, because no amount of evidence or examples will sway them from their foolhardy beliefs.

BTW, you had to skip the first definition to get to the scary stuff, LIAR.
socialism
play
noun so·cial·ism \ˈsō-shə-ˌli-zəm\
Simple Definition of socialism: a way of organizing a society in which major industries are owned and controlled by the government rather than by individual people and companies

• In other words, we're already socialist, just one dominated by lying GOP billionaires, dupes like you, and pander to the rich injustice. see sig DUH.

 

[Iceweasel]

Socialism has been defined around the world since at least WWII as always democratic, basically fair capitalism with a good safety net and sometimes nationalization of certain necessary-for-life industries (Health care, energy). Only Cold War dinosaur Pub dupes have your idiotic problem.

I should put this in my signature because the left is constantly re-branding socialism to make the sale.

Definition of SOCIALISM
: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods

That isn't democratic by any stretch of the imagination, nor has it ever been fair. Power corrupts and those that have it will misuse it. Our only hope for prosperity is to defeat the lying left before they do so much harm we're screwed for life, because no amount of evidence or examples will sway them from their foolhardy beliefs.

BTW, you had to skip the first definition to get to the scary stuff, LIAR.
socialism
play
noun so·cial·ism \ˈsō-shə-ˌli-zəm\
Simple Definition of socialism: a way of organizing a society in which major industries are owned and controlled by the government rather than by individual people and companies

• In other words, we're already socialist, just one dominated by lying GOP billionaires, dupes like you, and pander to the rich injustice. see sig DUH.

No, I posted the first definition in the full definition section and provided the link. Above that the simple definition reads:
socialism
play
noun so·cial·ism \ˈsō-shə-ˌli-zəm\
Simple Definition of socialism

• : a way of organizing a society in which major industries are owned and controlled by the government rather than by individual people and companies

That's not democracy.
You're full of shit.
America will not go there in your pathetic lifetime.
Feel the burn.

 

[francoHFW]

Socialism has been defined around the world since at least WWII as always democratic, basically fair capitalism with a good safety net and sometimes nationalization of certain necessary-for-life industries (Health care, energy). Only Cold War dinosaur Pub dupes have your idiotic problem.

I should put this in my signature because the left is constantly re-branding socialism to make the sale.

Definition of SOCIALISM
: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods

That isn't democratic by any stretch of the imagination, nor has it ever been fair. Power corrupts and those that have it will misuse it. Our only hope for prosperity is to defeat the lying left before they do so much harm we're screwed for life, because no amount of evidence or examples will sway them from their foolhardy beliefs.

BTW, you had to skip the first definition to get to the scary stuff, LIAR.
socialism
play
noun so·cial·ism \ˈsō-shə-ˌli-zəm\
Simple Definition of socialism: a way of organizing a society in which major industries are owned and controlled by the government rather than by individual people and companies

• In other words, we're already socialist, just one dominated by lying GOP billionaires, dupes like you, and pander to the rich injustice. see sig DUH.

No, I posted the first definition in the full definition section and provided the link. Above that the simple definition reads:
socialism
play
noun so·cial·ism \ˈsō-shə-ˌli-zəm\
Simple Definition of socialism

• : a way of organizing a society in which major industries are owned and controlled by the government rather than by individual people and companies

That's not democracy.
You're full of shit.
America will not go there in your pathetic lifetime.
Feel the burn.

Sure as hell is democracy...wtf are you talking about, dupe of greedy idiot billionaires. Energy, health care are smarter and cheaper and nationalized in democracies everywhere but here, chump. Banks wouldn't bother me either.

 

[francoHFW]

And no, Sanders won't do it either.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

"Who is Bernie Sanders?"


Bernie Sanders is an old white male, that is so old, he was born before the first Baby Boomers.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Have any nutbags come to this thread to accuse the OP of being afraid of Bernie yet?