It’s okay to be angry about Bernie Sanders.

[Rust_Cohle]

All politicians support socialism. I provided examples.

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[leftwinger]

Not a single penny was spent under Trump that he did not sign off on. What good is voting for someone willing to sign off on 7.8 trillion in new debt.

Get a mirror.

Trump did not shut down the states. Paying salaries for blue state citizens, paying $13K for every phony death DEMs could manufacture.

SHUP you dumb bag of crap. Another crisis created by your criminals. Trump had no choice till re-elected. Then China wolud have payed up. Then Election Fraud.

 

[Lisa558]

Here’s the attitude for a successful economy: Unless you’re disabled, “you don’t work, you don’t eat!”

 

[Lisa558]

Trump did not shut down the states. Paying salaries for blue state citizens, paying $13K for every phony death DEMs could manufacture.

SHUP you dumb bag of crap. Another crisis created by your criminals. Trump had no choice till re-elected. Then China wolud have payed up. Then Election Fraud.

I know…..the thought of “what could have been” is so depressing. Look where we are now.

 

[leftwinger]

Getting interesting. Trump's lickspittles going after a decent guy like Bernie. They're running out of material guys. The whole world knows trump's a piece of shit.

The decent one? Lol! It who rolled over for kankles. It was winning more votes but they were awarding the witch more delegates? Thats your boy? Go read up you dumb OX.

 

[pknopp]

No, all I did was post some reviews in a review thread on Bernie's new book, so that folks didn't have to rely the OP's book review, to have a conversation about this book, which I doubt, anyone has read.

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I happen to know Mindful, her politics are, explicitly in support of Monarchism. I loath monarchism, and in fact, I also believe, corporatism is a not so thinly veiled version of fascism.


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But Sanders selling the public that Corporatism IS Capitalism?

All of those other sources I quoted, probably have majority institutional investment corporations, which hold shares in common with the OPs source. There is entirely too much consolidation in our media. Thus there is too much thought control in our population, which leads to unequal distribution of wealth. The problem is not taxes, it isn't the free market, the problem has been the lack of enforcement of the laws we have on the books. The last time the Sherman Anti-Trust Act was meaningfully enforced, was to break up Ma Bell, and they didn't do that for the consumer, they did that for the interests of the Deep State and the future of Silicon Valley.

Sanders is against American values, and against basic economics, which bring prosperity. We have every law we need to solve this, save one, what we need, is to get rid of the corruption, not add in more corruption. Sanders doesn't know shit about economics. One man's utopia is another's dystopia, we have seen this over and over in history.

The single most important law we could pass, is an Amendment for publicly funded campaigns, this would end bureaucratic and judicial corruption. The oligarchs have consolidated too much of the economy.

But we don't have a free market. We now have dirigisme. We have since FDR.

When ever you hear the term, "public-private-partnership?" You should think this;

Sanders, with either his willful failure to understand economics, or purposeful misinformation, is part of the problem, not the solution, IMO.

Our system is a socialist system. I've pointed that out. If you say our system supports prosperity, you agree with Bernie.

 

[pknopp]

So that’s the excuse these days as to why leftists have to hand out OPM to people who won’t get jobs? That the jobs are in Asia?!

You people will come up with anything to justifying forming a completely dependent citizenry where working for a living isn’t expelovers.

If businesses get to rely on billions from workers to stay in business, I don't see why some can't decide to not participate.

Business gets billions, they get $10 an hour.

 

[pknopp]

Trump did not shut down the states. Paying salaries for blue state citizens, paying $13K for every phony death DEMs could manufacture.

SHUP you dumb bag of crap. Another crisis created by your criminals. Trump had no choice till re-elected. Then China wolud have payed up. Then Election Fraud.

Lol, yeah just like Mexico. Lol

 

[Lisa558]

If businesses get to rely on billions from workers to stay in business, I don't see why some can't decide to not participate.

Business gets billions, they get $10 an hour.

Totally unrelated. Businesses got billions because to allow them to fail would kill millions of jobs. How does that excuse lazy people with no sense of pride from working rather than living off other people?

Are you really so stupid as not to realize that a country where people don’t produce is doomed to failure?

 

[pknopp]

Totally unrelated. Businesses got billions because to allow them to fail would kill millions of jobs.

Capitalism.

Do you want capitalism or not?

Billions for corporations good. And you pretend it's capitalism.

How does that excuse lazy people with no sense of pride from working rather than living off other people?

If businesses can live off others, why can't all?

Are you really so stupid as not to realize that a country where people don’t produce is doomed to failure?

Quit sending the jobs to Asia.

 

[MisterBeale]

Our system is a socialist system. I've pointed that out. If you say our system supports prosperity, you agree with Bernie.

You are welcome to your opinion, but you are not welcome to construct straw men about me.

No, I do not agree with Bernie.

He is a misguided propagandist, he doesn't know shit about economics.

 

[pknopp]

You are welcome to your opinion.

I've backed my opinion with facts.

Where in Capitalism do we find the part where the workers give billions to the corporations ?

Is this what you were taught?

 

[iamwhatiseem]

There is NO such thing as free marker capitalism. It does not exist.

Singapore has the closest thing you will find to free market capitalism.
Permits/licenses etc. are among the easiest to obtain in the world.
They also have one of the best examples of free market healthcare system in the world.
A system much cheaper than America's because it is not a corporate ran three tier system like our corrupt system.
America could solve a LOT of economic disparity if they modeled the economy after Singapore.
But that is not going to happen, because out 100% corrupt government in Washington exists to protect the corporate oligarchy that exist.

 

[Flopper]

The Vermont Senator has squandered left-wing populism for phoney anti-capitalism.

A couple of days before settling down to read Bernie Sanders’ new book, I saw one of those video clips of Jeffrey Marsh, the crazy they / them fella off TikTok. ‘It’s okay to be angry’, Marsh said, in his typically creepy style, like the lovechild of Norman Bates and Oprah Winfrey. And now here was Bernie, everyone’s favourite avuncular socialist, the mitten-wearing moral conscience of millennials the Western world over, also telling me it’s okay to be angry. It’s Okay To Be Angry About Capitalism, his new book is called. Would this be yet more TikTok-level therapy, only delivered by a he / him with principles rather than a they / them with issues? Sadly, yes, it kind of is.

Bernie’s tome feels like a self-help book for upwardly mobile leftists. It’s a book whose aim is not so much to radically change Western society as to flatter and inflame the moral revulsion that graduate radicals feel towards ‘dog-eat-dog’ capitalism. Or ‘vicious dog-eat-dog’ capitalism, as Bernie brands it. Anyone hoping for cool, Marx-style analysis of the social relations that pertain under capitalism will be sorely disappointed. This is less a study of the capitalist mode of production and its contradictory consequences and more an explosion of East Coast abhorrence at the ‘uncontrollable greed’ and ‘grossly immoral’ behaviour of the captains of our ‘uber-capitalist’ system who ‘lie, cheat, bribe and steal’ to make a buck. Sanders seems less interested in getting the working classes revolting than in massaging the middle classes’ belief that the hyper-rich are revolting people.

Bernie’s brimstone is relentless. It’s anti-capitalism as church sermon. He slams the ‘greed, corruption and rampant self-interest’ of the madly wealthy.

It’s okay to be angry about Bernie Sanders

The Vermont Senator has squandered left-wing populism for phoney anti-capitalism.

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Although I don't necessarily agree with Bernie, I appreciate his consistency. That's getting pretty rare in politics. Whether Bernie is addressing a women's club in Vermont, the Chamber of Commerce in Alabama or the US Senate, his anti-capitalist messages and support for social programs never seems to vary much. He doesn't seem to tune his speeches to fit his audience.

However Bennie is pretty much a one trick pony and always has been. His primary agenda has always been social causes. He was born to a working class Jewish family in Brooklyn, attending public school, Brooklyn College, and off to Chicago to become a political organizer then Vermont to begin a 60 year career in politics. To my knowledge Bernie has never had a job outside of politics, never worked in any businesses or industries that he continually rakes over the coals. I would appreciate what he had to say a lot more if he actually had some experience in the evil business sectors that he routinely rakes over the coals.

 

[Mindful]

Although I don't necessarily agree with Bernie, I appreciate his consistency. That's getting pretty rare in politics. Whether Bernie is addressing a women's club in Vermont, the Chamber of Commerce in Alabama or the US Senate, his messages of anti-capitalist and support for social programs, never seem to vary much. He does seem to tune his speeches to fit his audience.

However Bennie is pretty much a one trick pony and always has been. His primary agenda has always been social causes. He was born to a working class Jewish family in Brooklyn, attending public school, Brooklyn College, and off to Chicago to become a political organized then Vermont to begin a 60 career in political. To my knowledge Bernie has never had a job outside of politics, never worked in any businesses or industries that he continually rakes over the coals. I would appreciate what he had to say a lot more if he actually worked in some of the evil business sectors that he routinely rakes over coals.

I think l’d have to say he’s the only authentic one out of that bunch.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Although I don't necessarily agree with Bernie, I appreciate his consistency. That's getting pretty rare in politics. Whether Bernie is addressing a women's club in Vermont, the Chamber of Commerce in Alabama or the US Senate, his anti-capitalist messages and support for social programs never seems to vary much. He doesn't seem to tune his speeches to fit his audience.

However Bennie is pretty much a one trick pony and always has been. His primary agenda has always been social causes. He was born to a working class Jewish family in Brooklyn, attending public school, Brooklyn College, and off to Chicago to become a political organizer then Vermont to begin a 60 year career in politics. To my knowledge Bernie has never had a job outside of politics, never worked in any businesses or industries that he continually rakes over the coals. I would appreciate what he had to say a lot more if he actually had some experience in the evil business sectors that he routinely rakes over the coals.

Pretty much sums it up.
And, unfortunately, the "never had a job outside of politics" describes 80% of Washington politicians.

 

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[Flopper]

I think l’d have to say he’s the only authentic one out of that bunch.

authentic in what way

 

[Flopper]

Pretty much sums it up.
And, unfortunately, the "never had a job outside of politics" describes 80% of Washington politicians.

That's because politics is a career, not just a job. It pretty much controls one's entire life. I talked to a very good friend last week who is a campaign manger. He said, anything higher up the political chain than a school board member is a full time job. In the congress, the member supervises a team which can have as many as 18 employees but usually about 6 or 7. And when campaign season starts, which is every other year for congressmen, the member will have a campaign staff. So anytime you hear of a congressmen or senator writing a book, or running a business, don't believe it. They hire ghost writers to do all the writing and there staff makes needed changes and the boss skims it and approves. And for there business, they have an assistant run it. I'll bet most authors of these books have never really read them.