Zone1 Who created all things?

[Paradoxical#1]

Maybe look into your buddy Donald H's ideological leanings to see what else you agree upon.

Why do you try to lay guilt on people in every post? This time, because I am a Trump supporter and Trump has certain ideological leanings, I must have them also??!!

Ding, this is no way to debate or argue or confirm your own beliefs by attacking others because Trump, Hitl;er, Pol Pot, Stalin, (fill in the blank) believed this and did dastardly things, I am guilty also of (fill in the blanks)

I am wondering if this doesn't go back to you being told that Catholics are big on original sin and their intense fear and guilt tactic that "We are ALL sinners in the eyes of the Lord,"? And you have remorse you can't shake for sinning in the past?

This is a famous control tactic where the believing Catholic sees himself as a sinner and therefore must tag a non-believer with the same thing so that he can say that person is just as much a sinner as he is because Hitler, Trump, etc. had some of their same beliefs and killed people or were criminals, etc.

See someone about this, Ding, or do some soul searching. We are NOT all sinners. Humans have flaws and problems, and many have done bad things., Learn from them. Vow not to repeat them. Move on.

 

[Donald H]

WTF are you blabbering about NOW? What does your stupid post have to do with anything about who created all things and your imagination that you are "saved"?

See my previous post to our friend Ding, to understand the situational box he's talked himself into. He was very outspoken in proclaiming that the bibles are not literally true. He took it as the Catholic church granting permission to shout it out to every atheist who came along.

That wasn't the intent of the CC at all. It was only the church's tactic that was to remain personal and discreet in the heads of the flock. In other words, Meriweather got it right by not saying on the Genesis part being a hoax. That remains her personal sin, but a sin that the CC has agreed to write off.

Ding however, thought he could go out bragging on his finding an answer for both bible lies and Darwin together. Now unfortunately, he has to take out his anger and fear on those who are trying to help him!!

 

[ding]

Why do you try to lay guilt on people in every post? This time, because I am a Trump supporter and Trump has certain ideological leanings, I must have them also??!!

Ding, this is no way to debate or argue or confirm your own beliefs by attacking others because Trump, Hitl;er, Pol Pot, Stalin, (fill in the blank) believed this and did dastardly things, I am guilty also of (fill in the blanks)

I am wondering if this doesn't go back to you being told that Catholics are big on original sin and their intense fear and guilt tactic that "We are ALL sinners in the eyes of the Lord,"? And you have remorse you can't shake for sinning in the past?

This is a famous control tactic where the believing Catholic sees himself as a sinner and therefore must tag a non-believer with the same thing so that he can say that person is just as much a sinner as he is because Hitler, Trump, etc. had some of their same beliefs and killed people or were criminals, etc.

See someone about this, Ding, or do some soul searching. We are NOT all sinners. Humans have flaws and problems, and many have done bad things., Learn from them. Vow not to repeat them. Move on.

Why would you feel guilty associating with your own kind?

 

[ding]

See my previous post to our friend Ding, to understand the situational box he's talked himself into. He was very outspoken in proclaiming that the bibles are not literally true. He took it as the Catholic church granting permission to shout it out to every atheist who came along.

That wasn't the intent of the CC at all. It was only the church's tactic that was to remain personal and discreet in the heads of the flock. In other words, Meriweather got it right by not saying on the Genesis part being a hoax. That remains her personal sin, but a sin that the CC has agreed to write off.

Ding however, thought he could go out bragging on his finding an answer for both bible lies and Darwin together. Now unfortunately, he has to take out his anger and fear on those who are trying to help him!!

I'm so glad you two are friends.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

God wasn't created-but he created all things-He is Jehovah.

God remains a Him because reason suggests that GOD in those ancient times, when the known earth had four corners’ and Biblical minds were on location in Northern Africa, and ONE GOD become a human spiritual and survivalist necessity, therefore that God had to win battles therefore had to be in the image of man - MALE!

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Scriptures like John 1:3 state that "All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made".

Only the female in the human species can procreate life.

AI Overview

In Roman mythology, Minerva was associated with Jupiter as his daughter. She was born from Jupiter's head fully grown and armed, a unique and miraculous birth. This divine parentage, along with her attributes of wisdom, strategic warfare, and patronage of arts and crafts, solidified her place as a key figure in the Roman pantheon, often depicted as Jupiter's favorite child.

Here's a more detailed explanation:

• Unique Birth Story:
  Unlike most gods and goddesses, Minerva's birth is unique. She emerges fully formed and armed from Jupiter's head. This unusual origin story emphasizes her connection to Jupiter and her own powerful, independent nature.
  
  
• Daughter of Jupiter:
  Minerva is frequently described as Jupiter's daughter.This familial relationship is central to her association with him, and it contributes to her status as a powerful and respected deity.
  
  
• Member of the Capitoline Triad:
  Minerva is one of the three main deities in the Capitoline Triad, alongside Jupiter and Juno. This grouping further highlights her close association with Jupiter, as they are considered the most important Roman gods worshipped together.
  
  
• Shared Attributes:
  While Minerva is a unique Roman goddess, she is often equated with the Greek goddess Athena. Athena, daughter of Zeus (Jupiter's Greek equivalent), shares similar attributes of wisdom, strategic warfare, and the arts with Minerva. This connection reinforces the idea of Minerva as a powerful and wise daughter of Jupiter, mirroring the role of Athena in Greek mythology.

Then we had the Virgin Burth of Jesus

It is quite normal in the United States to regard the miraculous virgin birth of Jesus to be a myth when our twice elected third president of the United States and fierce patriot of our founding generation held that view

 

[Donald H]

I'm so glad you two are friends.

You and I are friends too.

And we've agreed in private on the bibles not being literally t---.

Are you suggesting that you want to change your mind now that we've all been enlightened to understand that the god really did make a big fish especially for Jonah?

Sheet metal fins as big as garage doors!

 

[whutTHEYsay]

I am a Trump supporter and Trump has certain ideological leanings, I must have them also??!!

Trump has criminal authoritarian leanings. He attempted to overturn the election that he lost in 2020 in an organized criminal enterprise involving fraudulent, certified election certificates and up to seven states. He only failed to make my vote, not count in the Democratic coalition because his vice president would not go along with the fraud scheme.

Now in his own words and the words of Kristi Noem your Don Trump is sending iron lethal deadly force on the US military and National Guard into those same cities and as stated by his cabinet member in charge of those troops they are doing it to overturn the elected officials in big cities

Your Donald Trump is a fascist . Is a fascist in abled by 50 million religious fanatics in the Republican Party

I understand why St,Ding supports anti-democracy white Christian nationalists because he is one of them and he is obsessed with godless commies coming here and seizing his massive accumulation of wealth - but you, St.Paradox are so vehemently opposed to Christian fanatics and the Biblical ideology of white republican Christian nationalism, why do you support the Christo fascist Republican Party putting US Marines on the streets of LA at a massive cost to all taxpayers.

And on top of all that California sense 20% more to the federal government to subsidize the week performing red state then California gets in return

Californians are some subsidizing the occupation of their state by the Republican party Christo fascist occupiers

I just don’t get you. Perhaps you can justify it some way.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

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Trump has criminal authoritarian leanings. He attempted to overturn the election that he lost in 2020 in an organized criminal enterprise involving fraudulent, certified election certificates and up to seven states. He only failed to make my vote, not count in the Democratic coalition because his vice president would not go along with the fraud scheme.

Now in his own words and the words of Kristi Noem your Don Trump is sending iron lethal deadly force on the US military and National Guard into those same cities and as stated by his cabinet member in charge of those troops they are doing it to overturn the elected officials in big cities

Your Donald Trump is a fascist . Is a fascist in abled by 50 million religious fanatics in the Republican Party

I understand why St,Ding supports anti-democracy white Christian nationalists because he is one of them and he is obsessed with godless commies coming here and seizing his massive accumulation of wealth - but you, St.Paradox are so vehemently opposed to Christian fanatics and the Biblical ideology of white republican Christian nationalism, why do you support the Christo fascist Republican Party putting US Marines on the streets of LA at a massive cost to all taxpayers.

And on top of all that California sense 20% more to the federal government to subsidize the week performing red state then California gets in return

Californians are some subsidizing the occupation of their state by the Republican party Christo fascist occupiers

I just don’t get you. Perhaps you can justify it some way.

I left Commyfornia because it is now a cesspool of liberalism and homeless people. Gas is a buck more a gallon. Electricity costs are sky high, and there are blackouts. Riotys. Criminals roaming free. Many of them are illegals.

I fully support and LOVE what Trump is doing, sans the religious stuff.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Riotys.

What riots?

There were no riots under four years of Biden.

You support the federal government dropping the constitutional right of every human being on US soil to “due process”

What’s your solution to homelessness? Have the US Marines go in and shoot them.



there is not a law abiding liberal democrat in this country who supports criminals who riot.

You know, religious fanatics throughout the history of mankind do evil when they are combined with wealth and government power

You know it, but you ignore it. Something sinister is going on in your head.

There is no reason for you to give up to white Christian authoritarianism because of 10 people out of 5 million in Los Angeles County doing some vandalism during a peaceful protest.

You support a fascist who tried to overturn the 2020 election depriving 80, million Americans who voted legally to be rid of the stench and the ignorance that comes with Donald Trump in the White House

He wanted to cancel the will of the people in the United States of America America

And now he says he wants to do it in Democratic cities. Overturn the will of the people.

Wake up

 

[whutTHEYsay]

cesspool of liberalism

The voters in LA County voted for liberal leaders and a liberal governor. Democrat to be exact. Can you tell me where it is written in the constitution or in any state or federal law that being a liberal is criminal?

Being liberal offends 50 million white Republican Christian nationalists in this country. They believe liberalism is the result of satanic forces in league with Marxist’s. Trump has harnessed this energy to turn people like you into billionaire supporting dopes who voted against their self interest unless you yourself have a net worth in multiple millions.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

What riots?

There were no riots under four years of Biden.

You support the federal government dropping the constitutional right of every human being on US soil to “due process”

What’s your solution to homelessness? Have the US Marines go in and shoot them.



there is not a law abiding liberal democrat in this country who supports criminals who riot.

You know, religious fanatics throughout the history of mankind do evil when they are combined with wealth and government power

You know it, but you ignore it. Something sinister is going on in your head.

There is no reason for you to give up to white Christian authoritarianism because of 10 people out of 5 million in Los Angeles County doing some vandalism during a peaceful protest.

You support a fascist who tried to overturn the 2020 election depriving 80, million Americans who voted legally to be rid of the stench and the ignorance that comes with Donald Trump in the White House

He wanted to cancel the will of the people in the United States of America America

And now he says he wants to do it in Democratic cities. Overturn the will of the people.

Wake up

It is the Democrats who always riot and create mayhem. Remember George Floyd? All Democrats. 2 billion in damages. Now they are attacking police and ICE and before that burning Tesla’s. Yours is the party of evil and violence. Mexicans waving their flag while burning ours.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

It is the Democrats who always riot and create mayhem.

75 million Democrats voted in the 2024 election. Can you name for me anyone of those legal lawful voters who’s been charged or convicted or suspected of rioting.

Your excuse for giving up on western liberal democracy in favor of brute force authoritarianism with US Marines in the streets of US cities and hooded secret police going into garment factories and grabbing nine months pregnant women throwing them into a truck not telling them where they’re going or what’s happening to them is so weak

It’s sad that you cannot be shamed into recognizing truth

I understand it if you were in the cult of white republican Christian nationalism because the ability to seek truth is gone in those people. You don’t have that excuse.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Remember George Floyd?

Do you remember Terrance Floyd - George’s brother. A few days after his brother was suffocated to death by four police officers and it was caught on a video.

Can you answer a question?

Did Terrance Floyd have the right to peaceably assemble with others to protest the 8 minute 48 second suffocation death of his brother by a police officer?

TOPLINE George Floyd’s younger brother Terrence Floyd urged protesters in Minneapolis on Monday to protest peacefully and to vote in the wake of violent demonstrations that have gripped the city since his brother’s death.

George Floyd’s Brother Calls For Peaceful Protests, Political Action

Trump had the right to call his supporters to peaceably assemble at Capitol Hill to protest the certification of the winner of the election because it was not him.

“If I’m not over here blowing up stuff, messing up my community, what are y’all doing? Y’all doing nothing. Because that’s not going to bring my brother back at all,” Floyd said at the site where his brother died after a police officer knelt on his neck last Monday.

Floyd told the crowd that his family is peaceful and argued that violence doesn’t accomplish the change demonstrators are seeking.

“Let’s do this another way,” Floyd proposed. “Let’s stop thinking our voice don’t matter. Vote. Educate yourself and know who you’re voting for. That’s how we’re gonna hit them.”

Floyd concluded by saying, “I know my brother would not want violence,” imploring the crowd “let’s do this peacefully, please.”

is Terrence Floyd or Donald Trump responsible for outbreaks of violence that breakout in the vicinity of the lawful peaceful protest.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

75 million Democrats voted in the 2024 election. Can you name for me anyone of those legal lawful voters who’s been charged or convicted or suspected of rioting.

Your excuse for giving up on western liberal democracy in favor of brute force authoritarianism with US Marines in the streets of US cities and hooded secret police going into garment factories and grabbing nine months pregnant women throwing them into a truck not telling them where they’re going or what’s happening to them is so weak

It’s sad that you cannot be shamed into recognizing truth

I understand it if you were in the cult of white republican Christian nationalism because the ability to seek truth is gone in those people. You don’t have that excuse.

No one can shame me. Many have tried.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

Do you remember Terrance Floyd - George’s brother. A few days after his brother was suffocated to death by four police officers and it was caught on a video.

Can you answer a question?

Did Terrance Floyd have the right to peaceably assemble with others to protest the 8 minute 48 second suffocation death of his brother by a police officer?

TOPLINE George Floyd’s younger brother Terrence Floyd urged protesters in Minneapolis on Monday to protest peacefully and to vote in the wake of violent demonstrations that have gripped the city since his brother’s death.

George Floyd’s Brother Calls For Peaceful Protests, Political Action

Trump had the right to call his supporters to peaceably assemble at Capitol Hill to protest the certification of the winner of the election because it was not him.

“If I’m not over here blowing up stuff, messing up my community, what are y’all doing? Y’all doing nothing. Because that’s not going to bring my brother back at all,” Floyd said at the site where his brother died after a police officer knelt on his neck last Monday.

Floyd told the crowd that his family is peaceful and argued that violence doesn’t accomplish the change demonstrators are seeking.

“Let’s do this another way,” Floyd proposed. “Let’s stop thinking our voice don’t matter. Vote. Educate yourself and know who you’re voting for. That’s how we’re gonna hit them.”

Floyd concluded by saying, “I know my brother would not want violence,” imploring the crowd “let’s do this peacefully, please.”

is Terrence Floyd or Donald Trump responsible for outbreaks of violence that breakout in the vicinity of the lawful peaceful protest.

He isn’t George Floyd.

 

[ding]

You and I are friends too.

And we've agreed in private on the bibles not being literally t---.

Are you suggesting that you want to change your mind now that we've all been enlightened to understand that the god really did make a big fish especially for Jonah?

Sheet metal fins as big as garage doors!

Donny, you and I have never agreed on one single thing, in private or otherwise. But I do believe there is one thing we can agree upon. We can agree that you have put me on a pedestal above all others. We can agree that you cite me - almost always incorrectly - more than any other poster here. I live in your head rent free.

 

[ding]

No one can shame me. Many have tried.

I did. I made you cry uncle. See?

Get off your kick of me banning religion...

 

[Donald H]

Donny, you and I have never agreed on one single thing, in private or otherwise.

Oh yes we have my friend and I celebrate our coming to agreement every day. You're the first Christian that has ever agreed with me that the bibles are literally not true and are in face allegorical hoaxes!

But I do believe there is one thing we can agree upon. We can agree that you have put me on a pedestal above all others. We can agree that you cite me - almost always incorrectly

Yes! I put you on a pedestal above mostly all Christians, for the reason I've just stated. We can agree on the bibles being literally untrue lies. (you call the lies allegorical lessons, and I'm good with that too!)

- more than any other poster here. I live in your head rent free.

And I want you to be welcome in my head! Without you my objective would be a dismal failure here.

And for fk sake buddy, Christians like Lisa are still busy trying to float Noah's big boat!

How many times are you going to shit in your own nest before you get it?

 

[ding]

Oh yes we have my friend and I celebrate our coming to agreement every day. You're the first Christian that has ever agreed with me that the bibles are literally not true and are in face allegorical hoaxes! Yes! I put you on a pedestal above mostly all Christians, for the reason I've just stated. We can agree on the bibles being literally untrue lies. (you call the lies allegorical lessons, and I'm good with that too!) And I want you to be welcome in my head! Without you my objective would be a dismal failure here. And for fk sake buddy, Christians like Lisa are still busy trying to float Noah's big boat! How many times are you going to shit in your own nest before you get it?

I know you believe that my understanding of these ancient texts discredits the bible, but it doesn't. You are only discrediting yourself. If anything you fear my beliefs. But more importantly, what you intend for evil is being used by God for good.