Who are the Israelis?

[Hollie]

Sacrificial Pally children for a photo op.

You folks couldn't find any young females to parade in front of the cameras?

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Stop building with no permits.

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[Mindful]

As Israel-haters, the mainstream media, television medical dramas, and certain long-past-their-used-by-date comedy shows would have you believe that Jews only care about the lives of their fellow Jews, real life continues to show the opposite is the case:

Jewish Nurse Breastfeeds Palestinian Arab Baby. And It's Not Even The First Time.

A nurse at Jerusalem’s Hadassah Medical Center breastfed the infant daughter of a woman who was seriously injured in a car accident Saturday.

www.israellycool.com

 

[rylah]

RE: Who Are The Israelis?
SUBTOPIC: Protesters
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: Usually I get your point... Not this time.

Women in bras confront Ultra-Orthodox Jews protesting against Eurovision

(COMMENT)

This is an Israeli "domestic matter." What is your point here?

Most Respectfully,
R

Probably an attempt at ridicule in response to Rabbi Sherki's video in post #3610
As in Israeli society is a caricature of Orthodoxy and Progressivism in a clash.
Typical of those who don't actually believe they understand both.

But this is misrepresentation of both ideologies by a fringe,
neither the fringe orthodox radicals represent their community
nor the feminists in Israel are that anti-orthodox as these girls in a bra.

On receiving the Rabbi Kook Prize

Tel Aviv, which awards the prize, expresses in its name and history the Jewish renewal in our ancient Land.

www.israelnationalnews.com

If Tel-Aviv, the "LGBT capital" is granting the Rabbi Kook Prize, what does it make of the whole anti-Israel narrative, and what Rabbi Sherki said?

 

[rylah]

Grandson born to Ari Fuld
Brit Milah ceremony held for grandson of Ari Fuld, the Israeli-American activist murdered in Gush Etzion terror attack.



A circumcision ceremony was held Wednesday morning for the grandson of the late Ari Fuld, an American-Israeli activist and father of four who was stabbed to death in a terrorist attack in Gush Etzion in September 2018.

The eight-day-old baby, born to Fuld's daughter, Tamar, and her husband, Michaya, was named Ari Oz.

Religious Zionist Party chairman Bezalel Smotrich tweeted: "In thy blood, live . This is the little one who will be big. Ari Oz, the grandson of the hero of Israel, Ari Fuld. You're invited to get emotional and shed a tear with the wonderful Fuld family."

Yamina chief Naftali Bennett also offered his congratulations to the Fuld family, saying: "Tamar, the daughter of the hero of Israel Ari Fuld, who was murdered by a terrorist, has had a son. Israel will celebrate. Against our murderous enemies who spread death, we love life."

Bezalel Smotrich tweet:

 

[rylah]

Youval Dayan - Atah B'chulam (You're in everyone)

 

[rylah]

 

[rylah]

'Eden Meiri with Dudu Aharon

Peaceful and relaxing Shabat to all house of Israel and friends!

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians?
SUBTOPIC: Settlement
⁜→ rylah, et al,

BLUF: I'm not quite sure the intent behind the cartoon; but I am sick'n'tired of hearing this talk about "illegal" settlements.

(COMMENT)

The pro-Palestinian claimants always seem to forget three important facts. When you raise these issues,

◈ There was an Israel Administrations already in place at the time HM King Hussein "announced the severance of all administrative and legal ties with the occupied West Bank." There was NO Arab Palestinian Government in place to take over.​

​

◈ In order to be "illegal." the Occupying Power must have used Deportation or Force to move the population. ​

​

◈ The definition of a crime (making it "illegal") can NOT be altered to meet the whim of an opposing entity; even if the entity was not party to the original order. The Arab Palestinians agreed to the Rome Statutes, and thus must abide by them as a consequence. ​

​

See References Below with links.

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Most Respectfully,
R
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ARTICLE 49 [ Link ] ​

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Individual or mass forcible transfers, as well as deportations of protected persons from occupied territory to the territory of the Occupying Power or to that of any other country, occupied or not, are prohibited, regardless of their motive.​

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Nevertheless, the Occupying Power may undertake total or partial evacuation of a given area if the security of the population or imperative military reasons so demand. Such evacuations may not involve the displacement of protected persons outside the bounds of the occupied territory except when for material reasons it is impossible to avoid such displacement. Persons thus evacuated shall be transferred back to their homes as soon as hostilities in the area in question have ceased.​

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The Occupying Power undertaking such transfers or evacuations shall ensure, to the greatest practicable extent, that proper accommodation is provided to receive the protected persons, that the removals are effected in satisfactory conditions of hygiene, health, safety and nutrition, and that members of the same family are not separated.​

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The Protecting Power shall be informed of any transfers and evacuations as soon as they have taken place.​

The Occupying Power shall not detain protected persons in an area particularly exposed to the dangers of war unless the security of the population or imperative military reasons so demand.​

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The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies.​

SOURCE: Convention (IV) relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War. Geneva, 12 August 1949.​

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Article 7 (2d)​

"Deportation or forcible transfer of population" means forced displacement of the persons concerned by expulsion or other coercive acts from the area in which they are lawfully present, without grounds permitted under international law; ​

SOURCE: Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court, page 4​

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Article 22 (2) General Principle of Law → Nullum crimen sine lege​

1. A person shall not be criminally responsible under this Statute unless the conduct in question constitutes, at the time it takes place, a crime within the jurisdiction of the Court. ​

2. The definition of a crime shall be strictly construed and shall not be extended by analogy. In case of ambiguity, the definition shall be interpreted in favour of the person being investigated, prosecuted or convicted. ​

3. This article shall not affect the characterization of any conduct as criminal under international law independently of this Statute. ​

SOURCE: Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court, page 14​

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[P F Tinmore]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians?
SUBTOPIC: Settlement
⁜→ rylah, et al,

BLUF: I'm not quite sure the intent behind the cartoon; but I am sick'n'tired of hearing this talk about "illegal" settlements.

(COMMENT)

The pro-Palestinian claimants always seem to forget three important facts. When you raise these issues,

◈ There was an Israel Administrations already in place at the time HM King Hussein "announced the severance of all administrative and legal ties with the occupied West Bank." There was NO Arab Palestinian Government in place to take over.​

​

◈ In order to be "illegal." the Occupying Power must have used Deportation or Force to move the population. ​

​

◈ The definition of a crime (making it "illegal") can NOT be altered to meet the whim of an opposing entity; even if the entity was not party to the original order. The Arab Palestinians agreed to the Rome Statutes, and thus must abide by them as a consequence. ​

​

See References Below with links.

​

Most Respectfully,
R
____________________________________

​

ARTICLE 49 [ Link ] ​

​

Individual or mass forcible transfers, as well as deportations of protected persons from occupied territory to the territory of the Occupying Power or to that of any other country, occupied or not, are prohibited, regardless of their motive.​

​

Nevertheless, the Occupying Power may undertake total or partial evacuation of a given area if the security of the population or imperative military reasons so demand. Such evacuations may not involve the displacement of protected persons outside the bounds of the occupied territory except when for material reasons it is impossible to avoid such displacement. Persons thus evacuated shall be transferred back to their homes as soon as hostilities in the area in question have ceased.​

​

The Occupying Power undertaking such transfers or evacuations shall ensure, to the greatest practicable extent, that proper accommodation is provided to receive the protected persons, that the removals are effected in satisfactory conditions of hygiene, health, safety and nutrition, and that members of the same family are not separated.​

​

The Protecting Power shall be informed of any transfers and evacuations as soon as they have taken place.​

The Occupying Power shall not detain protected persons in an area particularly exposed to the dangers of war unless the security of the population or imperative military reasons so demand.​

​

The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies.​

SOURCE: Convention (IV) relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War. Geneva, 12 August 1949.​

​

​

​

Article 7 (2d)​

"Deportation or forcible transfer of population" means forced displacement of the persons concerned by expulsion or other coercive acts from the area in which they are lawfully present, without grounds permitted under international law; ​

SOURCE: Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court, page 4​

​

​

​

Article 22 (2) General Principle of Law → Nullum crimen sine lege​

1. A person shall not be criminally responsible under this Statute unless the conduct in question constitutes, at the time it takes place, a crime within the jurisdiction of the Court. ​

2. The definition of a crime shall be strictly construed and shall not be extended by analogy. In case of ambiguity, the definition shall be interpreted in favour of the person being investigated, prosecuted or convicted. ​

3. This article shall not affect the characterization of any conduct as criminal under international law independently of this Statute. ​

SOURCE: Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court, page 14​

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OK, so you posted all that stuff, but I don't understand how you can consider Israeli settlements/colonies to be legal.

 

[Hollie]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians?
SUBTOPIC: Settlement
⁜→ rylah, et al,

BLUF: I'm not quite sure the intent behind the cartoon; but I am sick'n'tired of hearing this talk about "illegal" settlements.

(COMMENT)

The pro-Palestinian claimants always seem to forget three important facts. When you raise these issues,

◈ There was an Israel Administrations already in place at the time HM King Hussein "announced the severance of all administrative and legal ties with the occupied West Bank." There was NO Arab Palestinian Government in place to take over.​

​

◈ In order to be "illegal." the Occupying Power must have used Deportation or Force to move the population. ​

​

◈ The definition of a crime (making it "illegal") can NOT be altered to meet the whim of an opposing entity; even if the entity was not party to the original order. The Arab Palestinians agreed to the Rome Statutes, and thus must abide by them as a consequence. ​

​

See References Below with links.

​

Most Respectfully,
R
____________________________________

​

ARTICLE 49 [ Link ] ​

​

Individual or mass forcible transfers, as well as deportations of protected persons from occupied territory to the territory of the Occupying Power or to that of any other country, occupied or not, are prohibited, regardless of their motive.​

​

Nevertheless, the Occupying Power may undertake total or partial evacuation of a given area if the security of the population or imperative military reasons so demand. Such evacuations may not involve the displacement of protected persons outside the bounds of the occupied territory except when for material reasons it is impossible to avoid such displacement. Persons thus evacuated shall be transferred back to their homes as soon as hostilities in the area in question have ceased.​

​

The Occupying Power undertaking such transfers or evacuations shall ensure, to the greatest practicable extent, that proper accommodation is provided to receive the protected persons, that the removals are effected in satisfactory conditions of hygiene, health, safety and nutrition, and that members of the same family are not separated.​

​

The Protecting Power shall be informed of any transfers and evacuations as soon as they have taken place.​

The Occupying Power shall not detain protected persons in an area particularly exposed to the dangers of war unless the security of the population or imperative military reasons so demand.​

​

The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies.​

SOURCE: Convention (IV) relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War. Geneva, 12 August 1949.​

​

​

​

Article 7 (2d)​

"Deportation or forcible transfer of population" means forced displacement of the persons concerned by expulsion or other coercive acts from the area in which they are lawfully present, without grounds permitted under international law; ​

SOURCE: Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court, page 4​

​

​

​

Article 22 (2) General Principle of Law → Nullum crimen sine lege​

1. A person shall not be criminally responsible under this Statute unless the conduct in question constitutes, at the time it takes place, a crime within the jurisdiction of the Court. ​

2. The definition of a crime shall be strictly construed and shall not be extended by analogy. In case of ambiguity, the definition shall be interpreted in favour of the person being investigated, prosecuted or convicted. ​

3. This article shall not affect the characterization of any conduct as criminal under international law independently of this Statute. ​

SOURCE: Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court, page 14​

​

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OK, so you posted all that stuff, but I don't understand how you can consider Israeli settlements/colonies to be legal.

It’s obvious why you would falsely label settlements as “illegal” but you make no legitimate case for your slogans.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians?
SUBTOPIC: Settlement
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: The answer to this requires → attention to detail.

OK, so you posted all that stuff, but I don't understand how you can consider Israeli settlements/colonies to be legal.

(COMMENT)

Prior to May 1948 (but after 1945), the Territories in question, west of the Jordan River, were overseen by the UN Trusteeship System, as a complete entity, and under the Administration of the UK.

Prior to 1945, the Territories in question, west of the Jordan River, were under a League of Nation Mandate, as a complete entity, and under the Administration of the UK.

After May 1948, the Mandate authority was terminated and momentarily placed in the Administration of the UN Palestine Commission. But almost immediately after the Arab League jumped across their borders and were attempting to take extraterritorial jurisdiction over the newly formed State of Israel.

At no time did the:

◈ Ottoman Empire, or the Vilayets of Beirut and Syria, allege the Jewish Agency of establishing illegal settlements or erecting colonial authority including (but not limited to):​

✦ The settlements established by the First Aliyah (prior to the Ottoman Surrender), known in Hebrew as moshavot are: ​

Rosh Pinna (1882, taking over and renaming the colony of Gei Oni established in 1878 and down to three families by 1882)​

Rishon LeZion (1882)​

• Zikhron Ya'akov (1882)
• Petah Tikva (1882; reestablished after first attempt in 1878)
• Mazkeret Batya (1883 established as "Ekron")
• Yesud HaMa'ala (1883)
• Gedera (1884)
• Bat Shlomo (1889)
• Meir Shfeya (1889)
• Rehovot (1890)
• Hadera (1891)
• Ein Zeitim (1892)
• Motza (1894)
• Hartuv (1895)
• Metula (1896)
• Sejera (1899)
• Yavne'el (1901)
• Menahemia (1901)
• Atlit (1903)
• Giv'at Ada (1903)
• Kfar Saba (1904)

◈ League of Nations Mandate Council allege the Jewish Agency of establishing illegal settlements or erecting colonial authority.​

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◈ UN Trusteeship Council allege the National Council for the Jewish State of establishing illegal settlements or erecting colonial authority.​

At no time did the Arab Palestinians rise up against and member of the Arab League and allege any party to the 1948 invasion of establishing illegal settlements, erecting colonial authority, or illegally annexing territory. In fact, it was the exact opposite.

At no time did the Arab Palestinian exercise any sovereign authority anywhere in the territory during the period 1517 to 1994 when the Oslo Accords agreed to extend full civil and security control over Area "A," and full control of the Gaza Strip in 2005.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[rylah]

Aside from the typical appeal to emotion in an attempt to sidestep facts,
not sure you have any idea about what you're posting.

According to which law, detention and/or prosecution of minors is limited by age,
and/or defined as a war crime?

War Crimes relating to child soldiers and other children that are otherwise associated with armed groups in situations of non-international armed conflict. An incremental step toward a coherent legal framework? - QIL QDI

Questions of International Law

www.qil-qdi.org

 

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