Who actually are the "the enemies within"? Is it the believers in Democracy or the believers in Dictatorships?

[ThisIsMe]

All I know is that he is generally incompetent and he takes credit for what is there and for what others do. His tariffs on China were done wrong and it cost us more than they gained for us. He increased the debt by $8 billion dollars. His tax cuts helped at first but tax cuts have a habit of causing problems long term and those problems have been seen. The only thing that I personally give him any credit for was that he brought the illegal immigration down but he did it by hurting innocent people, meaning it was a plus but with minuses involved.

Other than that, he divided the country, caused hate to increase, and in my opinion, did the wrong thing with Roe vs Wade. My rating of Trump is no better than a 1 (out of 10 with 10 being the best and 1 being the worst).

His tariffs on China were done wrong and it cost us more than they gained for us

What is your solution? Let china keep screwing us?

He increased the debt by $8 billion dollars

8 trillion...half of which was covid spending.

His tax cuts helped at first but tax cuts have a habit of causing problems long term and those problems have been seen

But biden was looking to extent those tax cuts.

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/06/11/biden-trump-extend-tax-cuts-budget-deficit.html

Look, call them bad, yet I didn't hear of any rich liberals denying those tax cuts. Seemed like everyone, left or right, benefited from those tax cuts, gladly.

The only thing that I personally give him any credit for was that he brought the illegal immigration down but he did it by hurting innocent people, meaning it was a plus but with minuses involved.

.which innocent people were hurt? Are you going to say kids in cages? A program obama started?

Other than that, he divided the country, caused hate to increase, and in my opinion, did the wrong thing with Roe vs Wade

Both sides have done their part to divide the country but I think the left has done far more to increase the hate.

The Dobbs decision was right. Roe was never "law' since scotus does create law. Roe should have always beed a states rights decision. The reason why people took such a blow from Dobbs is because we lived for so long with a decision that was incorrect, and Dobbs just corrected it.

Look at it like this, they could have very easily tried to push for a nationwide abortion ban (which i would have also been against), but they didn't. They just said, give it back to the states.

 

[Leo123]

What is your solution? Let china keep screwing us?



8 trillion...half of which was covid spending.



But biden was looking to extent those tax cuts.

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/06/11/biden-trump-extend-tax-cuts-budget-deficit.html

Look, call them bad, yet I didn't hear of any rich liberals denying those tax cuts. Seemed like everyone, left or right, benefited from those tax cuts, gladly.


.which innocent people were hurt? Are you going to say kids in cages? A program obama started?



Both sides have done their part to divide the country but I think the left has done far more to increase the hate.

The Dobbs decision was right. Roe was never "law' since scotus does create law. Roe should have always beed a states rights decision. The reason why people took such a blow from Dobbs is because we lived for so long with a decision that was incorrect, and Dobbs just corrected it.

Look at it like this, they could have very easily tried to push for a nationwide abortion ban (which i would have also been against), but they didn't. They just said, give it back to the states.

The Democrats have caught TDS fever and the Marxist flu. They will continue to lose until they pull themselves back from the far left cliff they are about to go over.

 

[ThisIsMe]

The Democrats have caught TDS fever and the Marxist flu. They will continue to lose until they pull themselves back from the far left cliff they are about to go Canada.

Ya know, here's the thing about that. I don't care if you are liberal or conservative. I can be friends with both, just as we follow the cotus as best we can, and not be so divided. That's why I can say I actually like Bill Maher, even John Stewart. Even though they tend to lean left, they are not afraid to call out the left when they do wrong, and they are not afraid to acknowledge when the right does good.

 

[Luckyone]

What is your solution? Let china keep screwing us?

No, I was not in disagreement with the tariffs but Trump did not do them the correct way and it cost US more than them. That is one of the reasons I say that he is incompetent.

8 trillion...half of which was covid spending

WRONG!! It was the tax cuts

But biden was looking to extent those tax cuts.

He was not able to increase taxes on the rich

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/06/11/biden-trump-extend-tax-cuts-budget-deficit.html

Look, call them bad, yet I didn't hear of any rich liberals denying those tax cuts. Seemed like everyone, left or right, benefited from those tax cuts, gladly.

First of all, you have not proof of that statement being true and secondly, common sense would tell you that if you got a benefit from something that you could do nothing about, denying them is ridiculous.

.which innocent people were hurt? Are you going to say kids in cages? A program obama started?

over 5000 families were separated and neither the parents or the children were given the information as to where they were taken to, so they could reunite in the future.

Both sides have done their part to divide the country but I think the left has done far more to increase the hate.

BS. The right has the view of "our way or the highway" and that AUTOMATICALLY creates hate.

The Dobbs decision was right. Roe was never "law' since scotus does create law. Roe should have always beed a states rights decision. The reason why people took such a blow from Dobbs is because we lived for so long with a decision that was incorrect, and Dobbs just corrected it.

I disagree. To begin with, our own Supreme Court of 50 years ago had made that law. That decision was overturned. In addition, I am totally on the side that a woman has a right to her own body.

Look at it like this, they could have very easily tried to push for a nationwide abortion ban (which i would have also been against), but they didn't. They just said, give it back to the states.

The states should not have the right to decide what are HUMAN RIGHTS.

 

[Luckyone]

The only real violence was a Capitol cop shooting a defenseless woman dead on Jan 6.

You are blind by choice. Windows were broken, police attacked and run over, etc.

 

[Luckyone]

All I know is that we had the best economy of our lifetimes, gas was affordable, goods were affordable, we had no wars and the world respected us. It will be that way again since we flushed Biden and the Democrats down the political drain. It must really suck to be you in your TDS misery.

Best economy of OUR LIFETIME? You really have no idea. The best economy of "our" lifetime was under Clinton.

and as far as economies under Democrats and Republicans, you cannot fight the statistics

 

[initforme]

I never said that. We absolutely should help people, but that should be left to the states. The federal government is not empowered to be a lifeline. Things that you think are valid expenditures, I may not agree with. So, why should I have to pay for things that you want that I don't agree with?

Now, if the state i live in votes for a program, that's a viable thing because it follows the cotus

Starve corporations of workers and we agree.

 

[Leo123]

Best economy of OUR LIFETIME? You really have no idea. The best economy of "our" lifetime was under Clinton.

and as far as economies under Democrats and Republicans, you cannot fight the statistics

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LOL brought to you by "replace every teaRepublican".....Not exactly an objective source.

 

[Leo123]

You are blind by choice. Windows were broken, police attacked and run over, etc.

Meanwhile BLM breaks windows, murders people and burns down parts of cities and
CNN calls it 'mostly peaceful' ........ You are a deluded little Marxist tool.

https://www.reuters.com/pictures/black-lives-matter-protests-that-swept-america-beyond-after-murder-george-floyd-2024-05-24/FGOD565QPVLA3KZO5NEZJBZYAU

BTW the photo in the link is NOT from J6. That's BLM at the WH rioting. They told us basically 'nothing to see here' move along.

 

[ThisIsMe]

No, I was not in disagreement with the tariffs but Trump did not do them the correct way and it cost US more than them. That is one of the reasons I say that he is incompetent.

How would you have done it?

WRONG!! It was the tax cuts

Wrong, it was covid. 4T was spent on relief efforts.

He was not able to increase taxes on the rich

He wanted to extend trumps tax cuts.

First of all, you have not proof of that statement being true and secondly, common sense would tell you that if you got a benefit from something that you could do nothing about, denying them is ridiculous.

Nobody says you have to take a tax cut. You can't waive them. Even if you couldn't, you could always send a check to the government to repay the money you got from the tax cuts. Have you heard of this happening?

over 5000 families were separated and neither the parents or the children were given the information as to where they were taken to, so they could reunite in the future.

Go ask obama, he started it. Also, you either think kids should go to jail with their parents, or you think the parents are ok with breaking the law. Also, there is no evidence, in a lot of cases, the people they were with were actually even their parents.

BS. The right has the view of "our way or the highway" and that AUTOMATICALLY creates hate.

Seriously? You think only the right does this?

I disagree. To begin with, our own Supreme Court of 50 years ago had made that law. That decision was overturned. In addition, I am totally on the side that a woman has a right to her own body.

Yes, and that decision was the mistake they overturned. Show me where it says the Supreme Court can make law.

The states should not have the right to decide what are HUMAN RIGHTS.

And the federal government should?

 

[Luckyone]

Meanwhile BLM breaks windows, murders people and burns down parts of cities and
CNN calls it 'mostly peaceful' ........ You are a deluded little Marxist tool.

https://www.reuters.com/pictures/black-lives-matter-protests-that-swept-america-beyond-after-murder-george-floyd-2024-05-24/FGOD565QPVLA3KZO5NEZJBZYAU

BTW the photo in the link is NOT from J6. That's BLM at the WH rioting. They told us basically 'nothing to see here' move along.

How would you have done it?

Read this article from the Harvard Gazette and you will get your answer. There were a couple of things that Trump should have done (such as stimulating increased production on products in the U.S.) that would have made us not lose money but gain from the tax cuts. He did not follow what many experts said needed to be done (Trump knows more than anyone, right?)

Researcher details findings on policy that failed to boost U.S. employment​

Wrong, it was covid. 4T was spent on relief efforts.

Tax Cuts Are Primarily Responsible for the Increasing Debt Ratio​

Without the Bush and Trump tax cuts, debt as a percentage of the economy would be declining permanently.

He wanted to extend trumps tax cuts.

BS He did not "WANT TO" do that.

Nobody says you have to take a tax cut. You can't waive them. Even if you couldn't, you could always send a check to the government to repay the money you got from the tax cuts. Have you heard of this happening?

Human nature. Have you forgotten that it exists?

Go ask obama, he started it. Also, you either think kids should go to jail with their parents, or you think the parents are ok with breaking the law. Also, there is no evidence, in a lot of cases, the people they were with were actually even their parents.

Obama did not separate kids from their parents and not provide ways for them to reunite in the future.

Seriously? You think only the right does this?

Only is not a word that exists with humanity. Everyone does "some" bad. My complaints are always about the extremes and the right consistently goes to the extremes.

Yes, and that decision was the mistake they overturned. Show me where it says the Supreme Court can make law.

Supreme Court Justices Do Make the Law.​

And the federal government should?

No one should. Human rights are HUMAN rights and no one should decide those.

 

[Luckyone]

Meanwhile BLM breaks windows, murders people and burns down parts of cities and
CNN calls it 'mostly peaceful' ........ You are a deluded little Marxist tool.

https://www.reuters.com/pictures/black-lives-matter-protests-that-swept-america-beyond-after-murder-george-floyd-2024-05-24/FGOD565QPVLA3KZO5NEZJBZYAU

BTW the photo in the link is NOT from J6. That's BLM at the WH rioting. They told us basically 'nothing to see here' move along.

Prove that statement!

 

[Curried Goats]

Prove that statement!

He's an idiot who can't do math apparently. That CNN article pointed out how there were hundreds of BLM protests all over the county that got no coverage because they were peaceful and nothing happened at them. Highlighting the violence that occurred at some doesn't change that math.

 

[Luckyone]

He's an idiot who can't do math apparently. That CNN article pointed out how there were hundreds of BLM protests all over the county that got no coverage because they were peaceful and nothing happened at them. Highlighting the violence that occurred at some doesn't change that math.

I looked at the link you provided and I did not get that view. It is true that there have been many BLM protests that were peaceful. The same as some weren't. I did not get the idea that CNN thought that ALL the protests were peaceful.

 

[MarcATL]

When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.

That's prevalent on the MAGA side.

 

[The Duke]

The "enemies within" is something that is happening everywhere in the world and it is evident that this is all based on whether you believe in Democracy or Dictatorship?

Definition of Democracy: A government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections.

Definition of Dictatorship: A dictatorship is a form of government characterized by the rule of one person or a small group of people who have no checks and balances on their power. While portrayed to their people as benevolent, loving rulers, dictators typically come to power simply to benefit themselves.
In addition, we see what Putin has accomplished in Russia with his 80% acceptance rate and we look at so many of the failures that have occurred through Democracy where the needs and desires of the people have not been met, and we see why Trump and the Dictatorship idea has taken such a strong hold.
We now see that the Constitution that are forefathers fought for when they were ruled by the King of England is been put aside. Are we ready to give up what we have been the representatives of during the past 248 years and go back to having a Dictator care for us?

So the question is: Who is now the enemy within? Is it MAGA, that believes one man (Trump) will do the best for all of us, or the Democratic Libertarians, that believe that the people should have a representative-of-the-people government.
It really does come down to the me, me, me or the us, us. us type of mentality as one thing that has been proven a thousand times before: ."While portrayed to their people as benevolent, loving rulers, dictators typically come to power simply to benefit themselves"

What is at stake is justice by and of the established laws, individual freedom, free speech, preventive regulations that protect us all from the rich and powerful taking advantage and using us.
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You and those that pay you and other motherfuckers like them, bitch.

 

[Leo123]

The "enemies within" is something that is happening everywhere in the world and it is evident that this is all based on whether you believe in Democracy or Dictatorship?

Definition of Democracy: A government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections.

Definition of Dictatorship: A dictatorship is a form of government characterized by the rule of one person or a small group of people who have no checks and balances on their power. While portrayed to their people as benevolent, loving rulers, dictators typically come to power simply to benefit themselves.
In addition, we see what Putin has accomplished in Russia with his 80% acceptance rate and we look at so many of the failures that have occurred through Democracy where the needs and desires of the people have not been met, and we see why Trump and the Dictatorship idea has taken such a strong hold.
We now see that the Constitution that are forefathers fought for when they were ruled by the King of England is been put aside. Are we ready to give up what we have been the representatives of during the past 248 years and go back to having a Dictator care for us?

So the question is: Who is now the enemy within? Is it MAGA, that believes one man (Trump) will do the best for all of us, or the Democratic Libertarians, that believe that the people should have a representative-of-the-people government.
It really does come down to the me, me, me or the us, us. us type of mentality as one thing that has been proven a thousand times before: ."While portrayed to their people as benevolent, loving rulers, dictators typically come to power simply to benefit themselves"

What is at stake is justice by and of the established laws, individual freedom, free speech, preventive regulations that protect us all from the rich and powerful taking advantage and using us.
.

Your 'definition of a dictatorship' exactly describes the past 4 years of Biden.

 

[Contumacious]

When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.

That's prevalent on the MAGA side.

Nope.

The "progressives" aka the Socialist Demon Rats SURREPTIOUSLY adopted the HEAVY GRADUATED income Tax using the "SOAK THE RICH " cliche.

A Layman's Look at the Communist Manifesto​

Here are the 10 measures the proletariat will use to bring about the full realization of the communist utopian dream, once they have the political power:


2.. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

A Layman's Look at the Communist Manifesto - LewRockwell

Partially Educated The Communist Manifesto is one of those documents I was aware of, but had never taken the time to actually read. As a woefully undereducated product of the public education system, I somehow managed to slip by the class that required reading of the old Marx and Engels classic...

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