Where is this mountain of evidence for evolution?

[cnm]

I know mutations exist but show me a good one or one that is a functioning new organ. All I've ever seen is ones that end up killing the animal

The one that fused together two of the 24 pair of chromosomes in the great apes to make the 23 pair of chromosomes in humans.

 

[SUPERMAN1929]

Read the first line in your copy and paste link. They admit they have no proof.

"Nothing in the real world can be proved with absolute certainty."

As you have been told repeatedly - and have ignored invincibly - the thread is about evidence, not proof.

Well, the only evidence any of you have posted is evidence of similarities. There is absolutely no evidence that any species "evolved" into another. You'll never get past speculation.

Transitional species and the process/evidence of speciation are just the gawds playing a cruel joke on you.

Or it's the gods saying you're dumb as **** cause that's not what actually happened.

 

[SUPERMAN1929]

I know mutations exist but show me a good one or one that is a functioning new organ. All I've ever seen is ones that end up killing the animal

The one that fused together two of the 24 pair of chromosomes in the great apes to make the 23 pair of chromosomes in humans.

Can you replicate this for me today?

 

[S.J.]

CB102 Mutations adding information

Claim CB102:
Mutations are random noise; they do not add information. Evolution cannot cause an increase in information.
Source:
AIG, n.d. Creation Education Center. Doing a Report on Creation vs. Evolution Answers in Genesis


Response:

1. It is hard to understand how anyone could make this claim, since anything mutations can do, mutations can undo. Some mutations add information to a genome; some subtract it. Creationists get by with this claim only by leaving the term "information" undefined, impossibly vague, or constantly shifting. By any reasonable definition, increases in information have been observed to evolve. We have observed the evolution of
   • increased genetic variety in a population (Lenski 1995; Lenski et al. 1991)
   • increased genetic material (Alves et al. 2001; Brown et al. 1998; Hughes and Friedman 2003; Lynch and Conery 2000; Ohta 2003)
   • novel genetic material (Knox et al. 1996; Park et al. 1996)
   • novel genetically-regulated abilities (Prijambada et al. 1995)

I like how you copy and paste other people's statements but have none of your own.

I like how the facts of evolution, which you deny, cause you to whine and moan when they're presented to you.

Stop whining.

You need to find a smart person to sit with you while you post so you don't have to keep repeating the same response over and over.

As we have seen throughout this thread, you're just whining about your YEC'Ist beliefs being refuted by the evidence and the facts of evolution.

Stop whining. You may eventually evolve from non-critically thinking zealot to a Marshall Applewhite wannabe.

Seriously man. How old are you? I hope you say you're at least over 60 cause you definitely have severe memory loss. You've said that same thing like 5 times.

You joined the thread late. She's said it now probably 50 times. It's all she has done throughout the whole thread.

 

[cnm]

Well, the only evidence any of you have posted is evidence of similarities. There is absolutely no evidence that any species "evolved" into another. You'll never get past speculation.

Invincible ignorance is in fact invincible.

 

[Hollie]

Read the first line in your copy and paste link. They admit they have no proof.

"Nothing in the real world can be proved with absolute certainty."

As you have been told repeatedly - and have ignored invincibly - the thread is about evidence, not proof.

Well, the only evidence any of you have posted is evidence of similarities. There is absolutely no evidence that any species "evolved" into another. You'll never get past speculation.

Transitional species and the process/evidence of speciation are just the gawds playing a cruel joke on you.

Or it's the gods saying you're dumb as **** cause that's not what actually happened.

Do you attend the same madrassah as the other angry, self-hating Fundie?

 

[cnm]

Can you replicate this for me today?

You asked for a beneficial mutation, you were given one. Say 'thank you'.

 

[SUPERMAN1929]

Read the first line in your copy and paste link. They admit they have no proof.

"Nothing in the real world can be proved with absolute certainty."

As you have been told repeatedly - and have ignored invincibly - the thread is about evidence, not proof.

Well, the only evidence any of you have posted is evidence of similarities. There is absolutely no evidence that any species "evolved" into another. You'll never get past speculation.

Invincible ignorance is in fact invincible.

Show me the monkey giving birth to a person and I'll believe you or is it flashing lights and suddenly the monkey just transforms into a person during mid life?

An observed mutation. Not an assumption you make based on the fact you already believe evolution occurred.

 

[sealybobo]

I know mutations exist but show me a good one or one that is a functioning new organ. All I've ever seen is ones that end up killing the animal

The one that fused together two of the 24 pair of chromosomes in the great apes to make the 23 pair of chromosomes in humans.

Can you replicate this for me today?

What is it you're having a hard time getting? She's usually spot on.

 

[Hollie]

I like how you copy and paste other people's statements but have none of your own.

I like how the facts of evolution, which you deny, cause you to whine and moan when they're presented to you.

Stop whining.

You need to find a smart person to sit with you while you post so you don't have to keep repeating the same response over and over.

As we have seen throughout this thread, you're just whining about your YEC'Ist beliefs being refuted by the evidence and the facts of evolution.

Stop whining. You may eventually evolve from non-critically thinking zealot to a Marshall Applewhite wannabe.

Seriously man. How old are you? I hope you say you're at least over 60 cause you definitely have severe memory loss. You've said that same thing like 5 times.

You joined the thread late. She's said it now probably 50 times. It's all she has done throughout the whole thread.

Yet, you're still unable to resolve your YEC'ist beliefs against the fact of evolutionary science.

Myself and others have tried to educate you but you continue to defend your ignorance. As noted, your ignorance is invincible. An achievement of dubious merit.

 

[SUPERMAN1929]

I know mutations exist but show me a good one or one that is a functioning new organ. All I've ever seen is ones that end up killing the animal

The one that fused together two of the 24 pair of chromosomes in the great apes to make the 23 pair of chromosomes in humans.

Can you replicate this for me today?

What is it you're having a hard time getting? She's usually spot on.

An example based on an assumption that it happened because it had to have happened or evolution wouldn't have worked does not make me believe in evolution. Just saying. If that's enough evidence for you to look at as fact then good for you.

I've discussed this in person with biologists and to me intelligent design and evolution seem just as far fetched. I've observed neither of them. Intelligent design is way cooler to believe in than evolution though. So you can have your boring science based on things you can't observe.

 

[cnm]

If you want to deny that is a beneficial mutation that has not killed the recipient that will not be a surprise.

 

[S.J.]

I know mutations exist but show me a good one or one that is a functioning new organ. All I've ever seen is ones that end up killing the animal

The one that fused together two of the 24 pair of chromosomes in the great apes to make the 23 pair of chromosomes in humans.

Can you replicate this for me today?

What is it you're having a hard time getting? She's usually spot on.

Tell us again how an interplanetary explosion created life.

 

[sealybobo]

Read the first line in your copy and paste link. They admit they have no proof.

"Nothing in the real world can be proved with absolute certainty."

As you have been told repeatedly - and have ignored invincibly - the thread is about evidence, not proof.

Well, the only evidence any of you have posted is evidence of similarities. There is absolutely no evidence that any species "evolved" into another. You'll never get past speculation.

Invincible ignorance is in fact invincible.

Show me the monkey giving birth to a person and I'll believe you or is it flashing lights and suddenly the monkey just transforms into a person during mid life?

An observed mutation. Not an assumption you make based on the fact you already believe evolution occurred.

It happens over hundreds of thousands of years. You'll never observe it.

What is your theory? We already dont know for sure how life started here on earth. We think all life started in one place and we are all ancestors of it. What is your theory? There are 1 million beatles alone. Did god plant giraffe seeds and croc seeds and alligator seed and kauala bear seed and lion seed? I can't wait to hear your theory.

 

[sealybobo]

I know mutations exist but show me a good one or one that is a functioning new organ. All I've ever seen is ones that end up killing the animal

The one that fused together two of the 24 pair of chromosomes in the great apes to make the 23 pair of chromosomes in humans.

Can you replicate this for me today?

What is it you're having a hard time getting? She's usually spot on.

Tell us again how an interplanetary explosion created life.

You tell me your theory first. The truth is we may not know. What's your theory?

 

[SUPERMAN1929]

If you look back in the thread I think this is the 6th or 7th time Hollie has said the same thing. As far as I can read there is no evidence or arguments in her comment.

 

[cnm]

Just saying. If that's enough evidence for you to look at as fact then good for you.

It's enough evidence for it to be looked at as evidence. That two pair of chromosomes have fused is fact.

 

[Hollie]

Read the first line in your copy and paste link. They admit they have no proof.

"Nothing in the real world can be proved with absolute certainty."

As you have been told repeatedly - and have ignored invincibly - the thread is about evidence, not proof.

Well, the only evidence any of you have posted is evidence of similarities. There is absolutely no evidence that any species "evolved" into another. You'll never get past speculation.

Invincible ignorance is in fact invincible.

Show me the monkey giving birth to a person and I'll believe you or is it flashing lights and suddenly the monkey just transforms into a person during mid life?

An observed mutation. Not an assumption you make based on the fact you already believe evolution occurred.

I have no reason to "believe" evolution occurs and has occurred. The process has volumes of evidence for support. Mutations have been addressed in this thread. In spite of the denials of the the rabid YEC'ists, the facts stand.

If you have no opposable thumb, hunt and peck the keyboard with one finger. There is a search feature embedded with the board software.

 

[sealybobo]

I know mutations exist but show me a good one or one that is a functioning new organ. All I've ever seen is ones that end up killing the animal

The one that fused together two of the 24 pair of chromosomes in the great apes to make the 23 pair of chromosomes in humans.

Can you replicate this for me today?

What is it you're having a hard time getting? She's usually spot on.

Tell us again how an interplanetary explosion created life.

I think DNA is in comets. But the Cosmos suggested a meteor hit mars and flung rock from mars to earth and life stowed away on the rock. I dont like that explanation.

They will find amino acids protein bacteria mold or something in the comet we just landed on. We are all made of star stuff.

 

[SUPERMAN1929]

Here's my theory. God created different kinds which branched out to all the species we have today. I believe in limited designed evolution. I don't believe the complex designs of life could have come from nothing and I also don't believe people came from chimps. I'm not a scientist but every organ on our body is so complex that it can't be partially formed through random mutations. It would just be a useless lump that would just disappear the next generation. I think evolution took place but not the single starting point of an organism from water. Multiple points of similar like animals and people.