Where is this mountain of evidence for evolution?

[S.J.]

Thanks for confirming. Your posts are probably the best example.

You poor dear. Your tender sensibilities are offended by those evilutionists who dare challenge the superstitions that cause you to live in trembling fear of angry gawds.

If nothing else, this thread has served to display the profound ignorance of the religious zealot who lives in fear and denial of contingent reality.

Thanks for confirming (again).

I just find it remarkable that faced with facts supporting biological evolution, you're left stuttering and mumbling as you simply have no counter argument.

I DON'T find it amazing that when you're challenged to provide proof and can't, your only response is personal attacks and empty remarks. BTW, I'm still waiting for you to explain how one species became another.

Mutation. Happens over millions of years. One species has babies and one offspring ends up living in the cold so they become warm blooded and the other that lives in the heat becomes cold blooded.

How do we now have blacks asians and whites? Didn't we all come from Adam and Noah?

That's your explanation, now where's the proof? And don't give me speculation.

 

[foggedinn]

Our Maker has been at it for a long time. The evidence for evolution can just as easily be viewed as the evidence of how we were made from the dust of the earth.

 

[sealybobo]

You poor dear. Your tender sensibilities are offended by those evilutionists who dare challenge the superstitions that cause you to live in trembling fear of angry gawds.

If nothing else, this thread has served to display the profound ignorance of the religious zealot who lives in fear and denial of contingent reality.

Thanks for confirming (again).

I just find it remarkable that faced with facts supporting biological evolution, you're left stuttering and mumbling as you simply have no counter argument.

I DON'T find it amazing that when you're challenged to provide proof and can't, your only response is personal attacks and empty remarks. BTW, I'm still waiting for you to explain how one species became another.

Mutation. Happens over millions of years. One species has babies and one offspring ends up living in the cold so they become warm blooded and the other that lives in the heat becomes cold blooded.

How do we now have blacks asians and whites? Didn't we all come from Adam and Noah?

That's your explanation, now where's the proof? And don't give me speculation.

I heard this from science. In fact millions of people including the scientific community watched the cosmos series explain it in great detail and the only people with a problem with it are you fundies.

If the cosmos couldn't explain it to you or convince you what can I say? Be stupid if you want. Free country.

 

[orogenicman]

Temperature metabolic power and the evolution of endothermy. - PubMed - NCBI

Endothermy has evolved at least twice, in the precursors to modern mammals and birds. The most widely accepted explanation for the evolution of endothermy has been selection for enhanced aerobic capacity. We review this hypothesis in the light of advances in our understanding of ATP generation by mitochondria and muscle performance. Together with the development of isotope-based techniques for the measurement of metabolic rate in free-ranging vertebrates these have confirmed the importance of aerobic scope in the evolution of endothermy: absolute aerobic scope, ATP generation by mitochondria and muscle power output are all strongly temperature-dependent, indicating that there would have been significant improvement in whole-organism locomotor ability with a warmer body. New data on mitochondrial ATP generation and proton leak suggest that the thermal physiology of mitochondria may differ between organisms of contrasting ecology and thermal flexibility. Together with recent biophysical modelling, this strengthens the long-held view that endothermy originated in smaller, active eurythermal ectotherms living in a cool but variable thermal environment. We propose that rather than being a secondary consequence of the evolution of an enhanced aerobic scope, a warmer body was the means by which that enhanced aerobic scope was achieved. This modified hypothesis requires that the rise in metabolic rate and the insulation necessary to retain metabolic heat arose early in the lineages leading to birds and mammals. Large dinosaurs were warm, but were not endotherms, and the metabolic status of pterosaurs remains unresolved.

 

[orogenicman]

Our Maker has been at it for a long time. The evidence for evolution can just as easily be viewed as the evidence of how we were made from the dust of the earth.

Erm, What?

 

[sealybobo]

Our Maker has been at it for a long time. The evidence for evolution can just as easily be viewed as the evidence of how we were made from the dust of the earth.

Yup! Us athiests know evolution won't prove god doesnt exist. But it will put a dent in the Abraham god. It may be time for a new god. One that never talked to anyone and who only cares about what's in your heart.

When christians Jews Mormons Jehovas and Muslims all stop believing they are gods only chosen people maybe we will do better.

 

[cnm]

You haven't explained a damn thing.

How about explaining why you can't understand this:

Steven_R wrote

Ring species fit the bill nicely. You have populations of the same species that over time can no longer interbreed with other populations of the same species. Since one of the classic definitions of a species involves the ability to interbreed with others, (and neverminding the arbitrary nature of human creation of classification systems including species) and you have observed populations that no longer fit in that definition over time...​

Ring species - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia​

 

[orogenicman]

Our Maker has been at it for a long time. The evidence for evolution can just as easily be viewed as the evidence of how we were made from the dust of the earth.

Yup! Us athiests know evolution won't prove god doesnt exist. But it will put a dent in the Abraham god. It may be time for a new god. One that never talked to anyone and who only cares about what's in your heart.

When christians Jews Mormons Jehovas and Muslims all stop believing they are gods only chosen people maybe we will do better.

 

[orogenicman]

The evolution of endothermy and its diversity in mammals and birds.

The evolution of endothermy and its diversity in mammals and birds. - PubMed - NCBI

Abstract
Many elements of mammalian and avian thermoregulatory mechanisms are present in reptiles, and the changes involved in the transition to endothermy are more quantitative than qualitative. Drawing on our experience with reptiles and echidnas, we comment on that transition and on current theories about how it occurred. The theories divide into two categories, depending on whether selection pressures operated directly or indirectly on mechanisms producing heat. Both categories of theories focus on explaining the evolution of homeothermic endothermy but ignore heterothermy. However, noting that hibernation and torpor are almost certainly plesiomorphic (=ancestral, primitive), and that heterothermy is very common among endotherms, we propose that homeothermic endothermy evolved via heterothermy, with the earliest protoendotherms being facultatively endothermic and retaining their ectothermic capacity for "constitutional eurythermy." Thus, unlike current models for the evolution of endothermy that assume that hibernation and torpor are specialisations arising from homeothermic ancestry, and therefore irrelevant, we consider that they are central. We note the sophistication of thermoregulatory behavior and control in reptiles, including precise control over conductance, and argue that brooding endothermy seen in some otherwise ectothermic Boidae suggests an incipient capacity for facultative endothermy in reptiles. We suggest that the earliest insulation in protoendotherms may have been internal, arising from redistribution of the fat bodies that are typical of reptiles. We note that short-beaked echidnas provide a useful living model of what an (advanced) protoendotherm may have been like. Echidnas have the advantages of endothermy, including the capacity for homeothermic endothermy during incubation, but are very relaxed in their thermoregulatory precision and minimise energetic costs by using ectothermy facultatively when entering short- or long-term torpor. They also have a substantial layer of internal dorsal insulation. We favor theories about the evolution of endothermy that invoke direct selection for the benefits conferred by warmth, such as expanding daily activity into the night, higher capacities for sustained activity, higher digestion rates, climatic range expansion, and, not unrelated, control over incubation temperature and the benefits for parental care. We present an indicative, stepwise schema in which observed patterns of body temperature are a consequence of selection pressures, the underlying mechanisms, and energy optimization, and in which homeothermy results when it is energetically desirable rather than as the logical endpoint.

 

[cnm]

That's your explanation, now where's the proof? And don't give me speculation.

Where's your proof of why you don't understand this?

Tuatara wrote

According to Robert's hypothesis, as the pioneering populations moved south, they evolved into several subspecies with new color patterns and adaptations for living in different environments. By the time they met again in Southern California as the subspecies eschscholtzii and klauberi, he argued, they had each evolved so much that they no longer interbred — even though the subspecies blended into one another around the rest of the ring. Since species are often defined by their inability to interbreed with other species, Ensatina seemed to represent the whole process of speciation — all the gradual changes that accumulate in two lineages and that wind up making them incompatible with one another.

Discovering a ring species​

 

[S.J.]

Thanks for confirming (again).

I just find it remarkable that faced with facts supporting biological evolution, you're left stuttering and mumbling as you simply have no counter argument.

I DON'T find it amazing that when you're challenged to provide proof and can't, your only response is personal attacks and empty remarks. BTW, I'm still waiting for you to explain how one species became another.

Mutation. Happens over millions of years. One species has babies and one offspring ends up living in the cold so they become warm blooded and the other that lives in the heat becomes cold blooded.

How do we now have blacks asians and whites? Didn't we all come from Adam and Noah?

That's your explanation, now where's the proof? And don't give me speculation.

I heard this from science. In fact millions of people including the scientific community watched the cosmos series explain it in great detail and the only people with a problem with it are you fundies.

If the cosmos couldn't explain it to you or convince you what can I say? Be stupid if you want. Free country.

You "heard it from science"? That's your proof? I guess you "heard they explained it" too, huh? So, why can't you? Oh, I know, you can't, you just have faith that they're right but don't require any proof (kinda like the "fundies")?

 

[S.J.]

That's your explanation, now where's the proof? And don't give me speculation.

Where's your proof of why you don't understand this?

Tuatara wrote

According to Robert's hypothesis, as the pioneering populations moved south, they evolved into several subspecies with new color patterns and adaptations for living in different environments. By the time they met again in Southern California as the subspecies eschscholtzii and klauberi, he argued, they had each evolved so much that they no longer interbred — even though the subspecies blended into one another around the rest of the ring. Since species are often defined by their inability to interbreed with other species, Ensatina seemed to represent the whole process of speciation — all the gradual changes that accumulate in two lineages and that wind up making them incompatible with one another.

Discovering a ring species​

I said "Don't give me speculation". What part of that do you not understand?

 

[cnm]

I said "Don't give me speculation". What part of that do you not understand?

Ring species exist.

Ring species - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Why can't you understand that?

 

[cnm]

Oh. Damn. Invincible ignorance, that's right.

Forgot for a moment I was dealing with a batshit crazy.

 

[cnm]

Apart from anything else, this thread is about evidence not proof. If you want proof you'll need a mathematics thread.

Not that that has any chance of penetrating the layers of invincible ignorance surrounding the crazies.

 

[Mr.Right]

That's your explanation, now where's the proof? And don't give me speculation.

Where's your proof of why you don't understand this?

Tuatara wrote

According to Robert's hypothesis, as the pioneering populations moved south, they evolved into several subspecies with new color patterns and adaptations for living in different environments. By the time they met again in Southern California as the subspecies eschscholtzii and klauberi, he argued, they had each evolved so much that they no longer interbred — even though the subspecies blended into one another around the rest of the ring. Since species are often defined by their inability to interbreed with other species, Ensatina seemed to represent the whole process of speciation — all the gradual changes that accumulate in two lineages and that wind up making them incompatible with one another.

Discovering a ring species​

I said "Don't give me speculation". What part of that do you not understand?

LMAO!!!

 

[S.J.]

Apart from anything else, this thread is about evidence not proof. If you want proof you'll need a mathematics thread.

Not that that has any chance of penetrating the layers of invincible ignorance surrounding the crazies.

Your "evidence" is speculation. Your "proof" is non-existent. Next?

 

[cnm]

Your "evidence" is speculation. Your "proof" is non-existent. Next?

The evidence is fact. Those species exist. Another one who can't separate evidence from theory. They can't even explain why they can't understand explanations.

Oh well, batshit crazies, what would we do without them?

 

[S.J.]

Apart from anything else, this thread is about evidence not proof. If you want proof you'll need a mathematics thread.

Not that that has any chance of penetrating the layers of invincible ignorance surrounding the crazies.

Your "evidence" is speculation. Your "proof" is non-existent. Next?

The evidence is fact. Those species exist. Another one who can't separate evidence from theory. They can't even explain why they can't understand explanations.

Oh well, batshit crazies, what would we do without them?

Ok, now explain how one turned into another.

 

[S.J.]

Apart from anything else, this thread is about evidence not proof. If you want proof you'll need a mathematics thread.

Not that that has any chance of penetrating the layers of invincible ignorance surrounding the crazies.

Your "evidence" is speculation. Your "proof" is non-existent. Next?

The evidence is fact. Those species exist. Another one who can't separate evidence from theory. They can't even explain why they can't understand explanations.

Oh well, batshit crazies, what would we do without them?

Ok, now explain how one turned into another.

Crickets chirping.