Zone1 Where in The Bible does it state that "Christians" will be "Raptured Up" before The Tribulation?

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The Messiah didn't Teach anything about being "Raptured Up/Out/Away"!! Nor did the Apostle John!

Signs of the End of the Age
Mat 24:3 As he sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things be? What is the sign of your coming, and of the end of the age?”
Mat 24:4 Jesus answered them, “Be careful that no one leads you astray.
Mat 24:5 For many will come in my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will lead many astray.
Mat 24:6 You will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you aren’t troubled, for all this must happen, but the end is not yet.
Mat 24:7 For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom; and there will be famines, plagues, and earthquakes in various places.
Mat 24:8 But all these things are the beginning of birth pains.
Mat 24:9 Then they will deliver you up to oppression, and will kill you. You will be hated by all of the nations for my name’s sake.
Mat 24:10 Then many will stumble, and will deliver up one another, and will hate one another.
Mat 24:11 Many false prophets will arise, and will lead many astray.
Mat 24:12 Because iniquity will be multiplied, the love of many will grow cold.
Mat 24:13 But he who endures to the end, the same will be saved.
Mat 24:14 This Good News of the Kingdom will be preached in the whole world for a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come.
The Abomination of Desolation
Mat 24:15 “When, therefore, you see the abomination of desolation, which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand),
Mat 24:16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.
Mat 24:17 Let him who is on the housetop not go down to take out the things that are in his house.
Mat 24:18 Let him who is in the field not return back to get his clothes.
Mat 24:19 But woe to those who are with child and to nursing mothers in those days!
Mat 24:20 Pray that your flight will not be in the winter, nor on a Sabbath,
Mat 24:21 for then there will be great oppression, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, nor ever will be.
Mat 24:22 Unless those days had been shortened, no flesh would have been saved. But for the sake of the chosen ones, those days will be shortened.
Mat 24:23 “Then if any man tells you, ‘Behold, here is the Christ,’ or, ‘There,’ don’t believe it.
Mat 24:24 For there will arise false christs, and false prophets, and they will show great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the chosen ones.
Mat 24:25 “Behold, I have told you beforehand.
Mat 24:26 If therefore they tell you, ‘Behold, he is in the wilderness,’ don’t go out; ‘Behold, he is in the inner rooms,’ don’t believe it.
Mat 24:27 For as the lightning flashes from the east, and is seen even to the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.
Mat 24:28 For wherever the carcass is, that is where the vultures gather together.
The Coming of the Son of Man
Mat 24:29 But immediately after the oppression of those days, the sun will be darkened, the moon will not give its light, the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken;
Mat 24:30 and then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky. Then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky with power and great glory.
Mat 24:31 He will send out his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together his chosen ones from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other.

Rev 6:9 When he opened the fifth seal, I saw underneath the altar the souls of those who had been killed for the Word of God, and for the testimony of the Lamb which they had.
Rev 6:10 They cried with a loud voice, saying, “How long, Master, the holy and true, until you judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?”
Rev 6:11 A long white robe was given to each of them. They were told that they should rest yet for a while, until their fellow servants and their brothers, who would also be killed even as they were, should complete their course.


Rev 13:6 He opened his mouth for blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his dwelling, those who dwell in heaven.
Rev 13:7 It was given to him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them. Authority over every tribe, people, language, and nation was given to him.
Rev 13:8 All who dwell on the earth will worship him, everyone whose name has not been written from the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who has been killed.
Rev 13:9 If anyone has an ear, let him hear.

Rev 13:14 He deceives my own people who dwell on the earth because of the signs he was granted to do in front of the beast; saying to those who dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast who had the sword wound and lived.
Rev 13:15 It was given to him to give breath to it, to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause as many as wouldn’t worship the image of the beast to be killed.
Rev 13:16 He causes all, the small and the great, the rich and the poor, and the free and the slave, to be given marks on their right hands, or on their foreheads;
Rev 13:17 and that no one would be able to buy or to sell, unless he has that mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.

Rev 20:1 I saw an angel coming down out of heaven, having the key of the abyss and a great chain in his hand.
Rev 20:2 He seized the dragon, the old serpent, which is the devil and Satan, who deceives the whole inhabited earth, and bound him for a thousand years,
Rev 20:3 and cast him into the abyss, and shut it, and sealed it over him, that he should deceive the nations no more, until the thousand years were finished. After this, he must be freed for a short time.
Rev 20:4 I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them. I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus, and for the word of God, and such as didn’t worship the beast nor his image, and didn’t receive the mark on their forehead and on their hand. They lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.
Rev 20:5 The rest of the dead didn’t live until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over these, the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and will reign with him one thousand years.
 
The Bible discusses the rapture primarily in two key New Testament passages: 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 and 1 Corinthians 15:51-53. Other passages often referenced include Matthew 24:40-42. These passages describe a future event where believers will be "caught up" to meet the Lord in the air.
I'm not disputing that The "Believers" will be caught up in the Air JGalt, for they will but, They will meet The messiah in the air, & then promptly come down to Earth with him, participate in the Battle of Armageddon, & then establish The Kingdom of Heaven,... Here on earth.

But No Where in The Scriptures is it written that they all just go up to Heaven, & escape The Tribulation.
 
The Messiah didn't Teach anything about being "Raptured Up/Out/Away"!! Nor did the Apostle John!

Signs of the End of the Age
Mat 24:3 As he sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things be? What is the sign of your coming, and of the end of the age?”
Mat 24:4 Jesus answered them, “Be careful that no one leads you astray.
Mat 24:5 For many will come in my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will lead many astray.
Mat 24:6 You will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you aren’t troubled, for all this must happen, but the end is not yet.
Mat 24:7 For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom; and there will be famines, plagues, and earthquakes in various places.
Mat 24:8 But all these things are the beginning of birth pains.
Mat 24:9 Then they will deliver you up to oppression, and will kill you. You will be hated by all of the nations for my name’s sake.
Mat 24:10 Then many will stumble, and will deliver up one another, and will hate one another.
Mat 24:11 Many false prophets will arise, and will lead many astray.
Mat 24:12 Because iniquity will be multiplied, the love of many will grow cold.
Mat 24:13 But he who endures to the end, the same will be saved.
Mat 24:14 This Good News of the Kingdom will be preached in the whole world for a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come.
The Abomination of Desolation
Mat 24:15 “When, therefore, you see the abomination of desolation, which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand),
Mat 24:16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.
Mat 24:17 Let him who is on the housetop not go down to take out the things that are in his house.
Mat 24:18 Let him who is in the field not return back to get his clothes.
Mat 24:19 But woe to those who are with child and to nursing mothers in those days!
Mat 24:20 Pray that your flight will not be in the winter, nor on a Sabbath,
Mat 24:21 for then there will be great oppression, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, nor ever will be.
Mat 24:22 Unless those days had been shortened, no flesh would have been saved. But for the sake of the chosen ones, those days will be shortened.
Mat 24:23 “Then if any man tells you, ‘Behold, here is the Christ,’ or, ‘There,’ don’t believe it.
Mat 24:24 For there will arise false christs, and false prophets, and they will show great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the chosen ones.
Mat 24:25 “Behold, I have told you beforehand.
Mat 24:26 If therefore they tell you, ‘Behold, he is in the wilderness,’ don’t go out; ‘Behold, he is in the inner rooms,’ don’t believe it.
Mat 24:27 For as the lightning flashes from the east, and is seen even to the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.
Mat 24:28 For wherever the carcass is, that is where the vultures gather together.
The Coming of the Son of Man
Mat 24:29 But immediately after the oppression of those days, the sun will be darkened, the moon will not give its light, the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken;
Mat 24:30 and then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky. Then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky with power and great glory.
Mat 24:31 He will send out his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together his chosen ones from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other.

Rev 6:9 When he opened the fifth seal, I saw underneath the altar the souls of those who had been killed for the Word of God, and for the testimony of the Lamb which they had.
Rev 6:10 They cried with a loud voice, saying, “How long, Master, the holy and true, until you judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?”
Rev 6:11 A long white robe was given to each of them. They were told that they should rest yet for a while, until their fellow servants and their brothers, who would also be killed even as they were, should complete their course.


Rev 13:6 He opened his mouth for blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his dwelling, those who dwell in heaven.
Rev 13:7 It was given to him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them. Authority over every tribe, people, language, and nation was given to him.
Rev 13:8 All who dwell on the earth will worship him, everyone whose name has not been written from the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who has been killed.
Rev 13:9 If anyone has an ear, let him hear.

Rev 13:14 He deceives my own people who dwell on the earth because of the signs he was granted to do in front of the beast; saying to those who dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast who had the sword wound and lived.
Rev 13:15 It was given to him to give breath to it, to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause as many as wouldn’t worship the image of the beast to be killed.
Rev 13:16 He causes all, the small and the great, the rich and the poor, and the free and the slave, to be given marks on their right hands, or on their foreheads;
Rev 13:17 and that no one would be able to buy or to sell, unless he has that mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.

Rev 20:1 I saw an angel coming down out of heaven, having the key of the abyss and a great chain in his hand.
Rev 20:2 He seized the dragon, the old serpent, which is the devil and Satan, who deceives the whole inhabited earth, and bound him for a thousand years,
Rev 20:3 and cast him into the abyss, and shut it, and sealed it over him, that he should deceive the nations no more, until the thousand years were finished. After this, he must be freed for a short time.
Rev 20:4 I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them. I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus, and for the word of God, and such as didn’t worship the beast nor his image, and didn’t receive the mark on their forehead and on their hand. They lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.
Rev 20:5 The rest of the dead didn’t live until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over these, the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and will reign with him one thousand years.
Where did it say that the Messiah would not come just once, but twice as Christians await his return?

Granted, we are given many clues, like Isaiah 53 stating he would be martyred for our sins.
 
I'm not disputing that The "Believers" will be caught up in the Air JGalt, for they will but, They will meet The messiah in the air, & then promptly come down to Earth with him, participate in the Battle of Armageddon, & then establish The Kingdom of Heaven,... Here on earth.

But No Where in The Scriptures is it written that they all just go up to Heaven, & escape The Tribulation.

Will this battle be spiritual warfare or will it be fought with AR-15s and AK-47s?

It would be funny to see Christians finally get some comeuppance against the Christ-haters. I'll have to make sure I have plenty of popcorn.
 
The Bible discusses the rapture primarily in two key New Testament passages: 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 and 1 Corinthians 15:51-53. Other passages often referenced include Matthew 24:40-42. These passages describe a future event where believers will be "caught up" to meet the Lord in the air.
Those are speaking of His return to the Mount of Olives and the Resurrection of the Dead IN CHRIST.

It is speaking of the END of the Age of Man and the establishment of the Kingdom of God ON THE EARTH.

The rapture is a Protestant teaching and is not Bibical
 
Those are speaking of His return to the Mount of Olives and the Resurrection of the Dead IN CHRIST.

It is speaking of the END of the Age of Man and the establishment of the Kingdom of God ON THE EARTH.

The rapture is a Protestant teaching and is not Bibical

The return of Christ to the earth doesn't negate the Rapture. Where do you get that?

The 'end of the age' and the establishment of God's Kingdom on earth doesn't negate the Rapture. Where do you get that?

Why is the Rapture not Biblical?

Quantrill
 
The Messiah didn't Teach anything about being "Raptured Up/Out/Away"!! Nor did the Apostle John!

Signs of the End of the Age
Mat 24:3 As he sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things be? What is the sign of your coming, and of the end of the age?”
Mat 24:4 Jesus answered them, “Be careful that no one leads you astray.
Mat 24:5 For many will come in my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will lead many astray.
Mat 24:6 You will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you aren’t troubled, for all this must happen, but the end is not yet.
Mat 24:7 For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom; and there will be famines, plagues, and earthquakes in various places.
Mat 24:8 But all these things are the beginning of birth pains.
Mat 24:9 Then they will deliver you up to oppression, and will kill you. You will be hated by all of the nations for my name’s sake.
Mat 24:10 Then many will stumble, and will deliver up one another, and will hate one another.
Mat 24:11 Many false prophets will arise, and will lead many astray.
Mat 24:12 Because iniquity will be multiplied, the love of many will grow cold.
Mat 24:13 But he who endures to the end, the same will be saved.
Mat 24:14 This Good News of the Kingdom will be preached in the whole world for a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come.
The Abomination of Desolation
Mat 24:15 “When, therefore, you see the abomination of desolation, which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand),
Mat 24:16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.
Mat 24:17 Let him who is on the housetop not go down to take out the things that are in his house.
Mat 24:18 Let him who is in the field not return back to get his clothes.
Mat 24:19 But woe to those who are with child and to nursing mothers in those days!
Mat 24:20 Pray that your flight will not be in the winter, nor on a Sabbath,
Mat 24:21 for then there will be great oppression, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, nor ever will be.
Mat 24:22 Unless those days had been shortened, no flesh would have been saved. But for the sake of the chosen ones, those days will be shortened.
Mat 24:23 “Then if any man tells you, ‘Behold, here is the Christ,’ or, ‘There,’ don’t believe it.
Mat 24:24 For there will arise false christs, and false prophets, and they will show great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the chosen ones.
Mat 24:25 “Behold, I have told you beforehand.
Mat 24:26 If therefore they tell you, ‘Behold, he is in the wilderness,’ don’t go out; ‘Behold, he is in the inner rooms,’ don’t believe it.
Mat 24:27 For as the lightning flashes from the east, and is seen even to the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.
Mat 24:28 For wherever the carcass is, that is where the vultures gather together.
The Coming of the Son of Man
Mat 24:29 But immediately after the oppression of those days, the sun will be darkened, the moon will not give its light, the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken;
Mat 24:30 and then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky. Then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky with power and great glory.
Mat 24:31 He will send out his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together his chosen ones from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other.

Rev 6:9 When he opened the fifth seal, I saw underneath the altar the souls of those who had been killed for the Word of God, and for the testimony of the Lamb which they had.
Rev 6:10 They cried with a loud voice, saying, “How long, Master, the holy and true, until you judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?”
Rev 6:11 A long white robe was given to each of them. They were told that they should rest yet for a while, until their fellow servants and their brothers, who would also be killed even as they were, should complete their course.


Rev 13:6 He opened his mouth for blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his dwelling, those who dwell in heaven.
Rev 13:7 It was given to him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them. Authority over every tribe, people, language, and nation was given to him.
Rev 13:8 All who dwell on the earth will worship him, everyone whose name has not been written from the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who has been killed.
Rev 13:9 If anyone has an ear, let him hear.

Rev 13:14 He deceives my own people who dwell on the earth because of the signs he was granted to do in front of the beast; saying to those who dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast who had the sword wound and lived.
Rev 13:15 It was given to him to give breath to it, to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause as many as wouldn’t worship the image of the beast to be killed.
Rev 13:16 He causes all, the small and the great, the rich and the poor, and the free and the slave, to be given marks on their right hands, or on their foreheads;
Rev 13:17 and that no one would be able to buy or to sell, unless he has that mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.

Rev 20:1 I saw an angel coming down out of heaven, having the key of the abyss and a great chain in his hand.
Rev 20:2 He seized the dragon, the old serpent, which is the devil and Satan, who deceives the whole inhabited earth, and bound him for a thousand years,
Rev 20:3 and cast him into the abyss, and shut it, and sealed it over him, that he should deceive the nations no more, until the thousand years were finished. After this, he must be freed for a short time.
Rev 20:4 I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them. I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus, and for the word of God, and such as didn’t worship the beast nor his image, and didn’t receive the mark on their forehead and on their hand. They lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.
Rev 20:5 The rest of the dead didn’t live until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over these, the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and will reign with him one thousand years.
This is a good question.....
that statement is not made in the Christian Bible so far as I can discern, [but modern near death experiencers seem to be coming back with the impression that that statement is valid, and I personally do tend to think that these modern brushes with death do produce some astonishingly impressive information].

For example 1992 near death experiencer Kevin L. Zadai tends to leave the door open to a truly wide range of interpretation of exactly when the Seventh Trumpet Will Sound and the dead in Christ will rise up first to be with Messiah Yeshua - Jesus?


 
Where did it say that the Messiah would not come just once, but twice as Christians await his return?

Granted, we are given many clues, like Isaiah 53 stating he would be martyred for our sins.
Actually Votto,..... There are many Scriptures that speak of "who" will be gathered up, in fact, it names that group, but it does not state "Christian".

And,... If one "Picks & chooses Scripture", line by line,... They can come up with more than One "Harvest/Gathering", but that would defy the Teachings of The Messiah, & what The Prophets stated.

One has to take all of the Data, put it al together, & then proclaim "What th' picture is".

No where,.... In The "Canonized Scriptures" does it state that any group of people will be "Raptured up to >>>HEAVEN<<< so as to escape the "Tribulation". Which by the way, is also The Time of Trouble" spoken of by Daniel, & "The time of Jacob's Trouble" spoken of by Jeremiah.

I'll put it this way,..... If those Who Truly Honor/Follow/Worship, The Resurrected & Soon Returning Messiah, quit receiving their "Biblical Knowledge" from the pulpit, as they "Warmed a Pew", & instead they began "Feasting upon The Scriptures" as if their Lives depended upon them,........ I'm Thinking that thousands of churches would become empty buildings, & that True Revival would spread across America & the World, like a California Forest Fire.

We,... All of Living, & Dead, Mankind, per many, many Scriptures will be here on Earth, when it is overwhelmed by Unprecedented Catastrophes.
 
Will this battle be spiritual warfare or will it be fought with AR-15s and AK-47s?

It would be funny to see Christians finally get some comeuppance against the Christ-haters. I'll have to make sure I have plenty of popcorn.
JGalt,... The battle will be physical, & spiritual.

But the True Believers of, & in, The Messiah, once under control of this "One World System", will be overcome, & then given a choice of proclaiming the "Little Horn"/"Antichrist" as "Lord", vs being put to death.

Kinda like Islam
 
No where, because it doesn't.

Scripture also doesn't say, or promote, the idea that we'll go to heaven (or hell) immediately when we die.
That is True Marc,...... There are more than ten Scriptures, which qualifies for the 'Three Witnesses to settle a matter", that all state that when One Dies ... They sleep, & Know Nothing.
 
Those are speaking of His return to the Mount of Olives and the Resurrection of the Dead IN CHRIST.

It is speaking of the END of the Age of Man and the establishment of the Kingdom of God ON THE EARTH.

The rapture is a Protestant teaching and is not Bibical
AMEN Carl!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
This is a good question.....
that statement is not made in the Christian Bible so far as I can discern, [but modern near death experiencers seem to be coming back with the impression that that statement is valid, and I personally do tend to think that these modern brushes with death do produce some astonishingly impressive information].

For example 1992 near death experiencer Kevin L. Zadai tends to leave the door open to a truly wide range of interpretation of exactly when the Seventh Trumpet Will Sound and the dead in Christ will rise up first to be with Messiah Yeshua - Jesus?


Dennis,

"near death experiencers"

If that is True, then The Scriptures have Lied about happens when One Dies, & that is "Sleep", nor do they Know Anything.

But since I know that the Scriptures told The Truth,..... Then these "Misleading Fables" about people dying, going to heaven, & then being brought back to life, & speaking of what they saw & experienced,....

Is a Satanically Inspired Lie.
 
Dennis,

"near death experiencers"

If that is True, then The Scriptures have Lied about happens when One Dies, & that is "Sleep", nor do they Know Anything.

But since I know that the Scriptures told The Truth,..... Then these "Misleading Fables" about people dying, going to heaven, & then being brought back to life, & speaking of what they saw & experienced,....

Is a Satanically Inspired Lie.
In almost every posts he talks about NDE, but he has the same Christian roots as do i. He knows better.
 
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In almost every posts he talks about NDE, but he has the same Christian roots as do i. He knows better.

From 1972 or '73, until 1990 I believed in the "Soul Sleep" doctrine but once I began to read these accounts I rather quickly concluded that Pastor General Herbert W. Armstrong and his son Garner Ted, were almost certainly terribly mis-underinformed regarding the State of the Dead!?
 
I'm not disputing that The "Believers" will be caught up in the Air JGalt, for they will but, They will meet The messiah in the air, & then promptly come down to Earth with him, participate in the Battle of Armageddon, & then establish The Kingdom of Heaven,... Here on earth.

But No Where in The Scriptures is it written that they all just go up to Heaven, & escape The Tribulation.
I agree. And he gave us too many warning signs, for us not to be here through them imo.
 
Dennis,

"near death experiencers"

If that is True, then The Scriptures have Lied about happens when One Dies, & that is "Sleep", nor do they Know Anything.

But since I know that the Scriptures told The Truth,..... Then these "Misleading Fables" about people dying, going to heaven, & then being brought back to life, & speaking of what they saw & experienced,....

Is a Satanically Inspired Lie.

No, the scriptures were terribly misunderstood even by sincere readers who were totally thrown off by the KJV translation of the scriptures that attempted to sound authoritative, even if they did not fully understand the original Hebrew, Greek, Aramaic or Chaldean words in the original documents that they were translating from.

King Solomon, in the English language translation of the scriptures, makes statements that would extremely easy to misunderstand.
 
In almost every posts he talks about NDE, but he has the same Christian roots as do i. He knows better.

In 1989 or 1990 I began to read NDE accounts and I feel that Dr. George Ritchie added details about the State of the Dead, [and some of the erroneous teaching about the State of the Dead], that pushed me off in a different direction from the teachings of Pastor General Herbert W. Armstrong.

I believe that it is highly relevant that the Dr. George Ritchie NDE took place in 1943, decades before Stephen Hawking Ph. D. explained about String Theory in high school level English.


c. His Experience of the “Receiving Station”​

Jesus then takes Ritchie to another realm and is shown a kind of “receiving station” where spirits would arrive in a deep hypnotic sleep because of a particular religious belief they held to be true. Here there were “angels” trying to arouse them and help them realize, “God is truly a God of the living and that they did not have to lie around sleeping until Gabriel or someone came along blowing on a horn.” These are the spirits of people who believe they must sleep in their grave until the second coming of Christ (i.e., soul sleep.)


 
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