When is an embryo/fetus a human life?

[22lcidw]

Every cell in our bodies has human DNA. Why is a fertilized egg different from every other cell we have? To me, it is nothing special at that moment. Later on it becomes special but you could say that about every sperm and egg cell too.

It is really about not getting to the point where we have a concert and some musicians on the stage start copulating for the applause and if one gets pregnant aborts and then moves on.

 

[alang1216]

I’m referring to lib arguments that abortion does not involve taking a human life

I think the real question is what is the value of that human life in comparison to other lives? We take human lives by the millions. We morn their deaths when they are dear to us and applaud their deaths if they are seen as our enemies but mostly we ignore them when they starve in foreign lands.

 

[alang1216]

It is really about not getting to the point where we have a concert and some musicians on the stage start copulating for the applause and if one gets pregnant aborts and then moves on.

What kind of concerts do you go to? Come back when we get further down your imagined slippery slope.

 

[Redfish]

I'm not convinced that it is a human life from the moment of conception (given that it doesn't have a brain, for example), but at some point during pregnancy, I believe it qualifies as a human life.

If people are merely arguing that it is a "potential life" from the moment of conception, then preventing a potential life from coming into existence obviously isn't the same as taking a life from existence. (If that was true, then if a person only has 2 children when they have the ability to have 5 means they should be charged with 3 counts of murder, and we know that is absurd).

at conception the person has unique dna and is a human being entitled to life

 

[Redfish]

if the pro-choice crowd is correct, why not kill your 2-year-old if he or she becomes too much of a burden?

 

[BluesLegend]

if the pro-choice crowd is correct, why not kill your 2-year-old if he or she becomes too much of a burden?

Dems love to put deceptive labels on things. Brutal ABORTIONS that rip the limbs off human life relabeled "pro choice". Yes that sounds so much nicer doesn't it.

 

[Independent thinker]

I'm not convinced that it is a human life from the moment of conception (given that it doesn't have a brain, for example), but at some point during pregnancy, I believe it qualifies as a human life.

If people are merely arguing that it is a "potential life" from the moment of conception, then preventing a potential life from coming into existence obviously isn't the same as taking a life from existence. (If that was true, then if a person only has 2 children when they have the ability to have 5 means they should be charged with 3 counts of murder, and we know that is absurd).

When conception first happens, those cells aren't going to grow into a giraffe. They are going to grow into a human. That's what the DNA tells them to do.

 

[Mac-7]

I think the real question is what is the value of that human life in comparison to other lives? We take human lives by the millions. We morn their deaths when they are dear to us and applaud their deaths if they are seen as our enemies but mostly we ignore them when they starve in foreign lands.

Speak for yourself

I support the death penalty for convicted killers not unborn children that have committed no crime

And death to foreign enemies who are trying to kill Americans

Again, thats not an unborn child

 

[Grumblenuts]

Google AI:

A human organism is a complete, living individual capable of independent existence and performing all the essential life processes. This includes functions like growth, reproduction, metabolism, response to stimuli, and maintaining homeostasis. It's the fundamental unit of life, even though it's made up of trillions of cells working together.

It's "complete" then at what age?

Broader context

• Continuous Development: It's important to understand that human development is a continuous process that unfolds throughout the lifespan, from conception to old age.
• Adulthood: Adulthood is typically associated with sexual maturity and the ability to reproduce, but humans continue to develop both physically and mentally throughout their lives.

So never. We just keep developing until we die. Okay, thanks so much!

 

[Redfish]

Google AI:

It's "complete" then at what age?

So never. We just keep developing until we die. Okay, thanks so much!

so any human that becomes inconvenient can simply be killed?

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Conception

 

[alang1216]

Speak for yourself

I support the death penalty for convicted killers not unborn children that have committed no crime

And death to foreign enemies who are trying to kill Americans

Again, thats not an unborn child

I see you agree with me that we applaud their deaths if they are seen as our enemies. Many children in this country and around the world don't get enough to eat and have poor healthcare. Are you as concerned about them as you are about the unborn? Are you an advocate for women getting access to pre-natal care and ensuring they are properly housed and fed?

 

[Mac-7]

I see you agree with me that we applaud their deaths if they are seen as our enemies. Many children in this country and around the world don't get enough to eat and have poor healthcare. Are you as concerned about them as you are about the unborn? Are you an advocate for women getting access to pre-natal care and ensuring they are properly housed and fed?

I prefer to rely on my own judgement as to who my enemies are rather than allow you to make the decision for me

And I dont equate unborn children with iranian jihadies

As for starving children in America I dont think they exist unless their drug addicted welfare mom abuses them

And there are limits to what I can do about that

 

[MagicMike]

A single cell doing its functions is the definition of life. If that cell is human then it's human life.

So would it be "murder" to cut out a malignant tumor?

 

[alang1216]

I prefer to rely on my own judgement as to who my enemies are rather than allow you to make the decision for me

And I dont equate unborn children with iranian jihadies

As for starving children in America I dont think they exist unless their drug addicted welfare mom abuses them

And there are limits to what I can do about that

Maybe you should be as concerned about the children who are born as you are about the unborn children. Note, many of these children relied on SNAP, National School Lunch, and Medicaid programs for help.

AI Overview

In America, millions of children face food insecurity and hunger, with nearly 14 million children living in households that lack consistent access to adequate food. This means they may not know where their next meal will come from or experience hunger regularly.

Here's a more detailed look:
Prevalence:

• Significant Numbers:
  Approximately 1 in 5 children in the U.S. live in food-insecure households, according to No Kid Hungry and Feeding America.
  
  
• Increased Rates:
  The number of children facing hunger has risen in recent years, with some organizations citing an increase due to the pandemic and its economic fallout, according to NPR.
  
  
• • Vulnerable Groups:
    Certain groups, such as those in poverty, single-parent households (especially those headed by single mothers), and Black and Latino children, experience higher rates of food insecurity, according to Feeding America.
    
  • Regional Differences:
    Food insecurity varies by state and region, with some states and rural areas experiencing higher rates of child hunger, according to the Food Research & Action Center.
    

Consequences:

• • Health Impacts:
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    Food insecurity can negatively affect children's physical and cognitive development, leading to health problems and developmental delays, says Save the Children.
    
  • Educational Outcomes:
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    Children experiencing hunger may have difficulty concentrating in school, leading to lower academic performance.
    
  • Long-Term Effects:
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    Hunger and food insecurity can have long-lasting consequences for children's well-being and future opportunities.
    

Addressing Child Hunger:

• • Government Programs:
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    Federal nutrition programs like SNAP (Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program) and the National School Lunch Program play a vital role in providing food assistance to children and families.
    
  • Charitable Organizations:
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    Organizations like Feeding America, No Kid Hungry, and Feed the Children work to address hunger through various initiatives, including food banks, meal programs, and advocacy.
    
  • Community Efforts:
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    Community-based solutions, such as food pantries and school-based meal programs, are also crucial in combating child hunger.

 

[elektra]

When is life??? It dont matter, we dont decide.

What does matter is some big prick thinks it is okay to squish somebody's entire life before it happens.

Everything I enjoy could of been, could of been destroyed by the socialist society? By the culture? By the government making it too expensive to be born? What are all the reasons people give to destroy an entire life.

There are so many futures, humans, entire lives, gone.

 

[Mac-7]

Maybe you should be as concerned about the children who are born as you are about the unborn children. Note, many of these children relied on SNAP, National School Lunch, and Medicaid programs for help.

AI Overview

In America, millions of children face food insecurity and hunger, with nearly 14 million children living in households that lack consistent access to adequate food. This means they may not know where their next meal will come from or experience hunger regularly.

Here's a more detailed look:
Prevalence:

• Significant Numbers:
  Approximately 1 in 5 children in the U.S. live in food-insecure households, according to No Kid Hungry and Feeding America.
  
  
• Increased Rates:
  The number of children facing hunger has risen in recent years, with some organizations citing an increase due to the pandemic and its economic fallout, according to NPR.
  
  
• • Vulnerable Groups:
    Certain groups, such as those in poverty, single-parent households (especially those headed by single mothers), and Black and Latino children, experience higher rates of food insecurity, according to Feeding America.
  • Regional Differences:
    Food insecurity varies by state and region, with some states and rural areas experiencing higher rates of child hunger, according to the Food Research & Action Center.

Consequences:

• • Health Impacts:
    .Opens in new tab
    Food insecurity can negatively affect children's physical and cognitive development, leading to health problems and developmental delays, says Save the Children.
  • Educational Outcomes:
    .Opens in new tab
    Children experiencing hunger may have difficulty concentrating in school, leading to lower academic performance.
  • Long-Term Effects:
    .Opens in new tab
    Hunger and food insecurity can have long-lasting consequences for children's well-being and future opportunities.

Addressing Child Hunger:

• • Government Programs:
    .Opens in new tab
    Federal nutrition programs like SNAP (Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program) and the National School Lunch Program play a vital role in providing food assistance to children and families.
  • Charitable Organizations:
    .Opens in new tab
    Organizations like Feeding America, No Kid Hungry, and Feed the Children work to address hunger through various initiatives, including food banks, meal programs, and advocacy.
  • Community Efforts:
    .Opens in new tab
    Community-based solutions, such as food pantries and school-based meal programs, are also crucial in combating child hunger.

As I said,

When it comes to starving (American) children in America, I dont think they exist unless their drug addicted welfare mom abuses/neglects them

And there are limits to what I can do about that

 

[Foxfyre]

I'm not convinced that it is a human life from the moment of conception (given that it doesn't have a brain, for example), but at some point during pregnancy, I believe it qualifies as a human life.

If people are merely arguing that it is a "potential life" from the moment of conception, then preventing a potential life from coming into existence obviously isn't the same as taking a life from existence. (If that was true, then if a person only has 2 children when they have the ability to have 5 means they should be charged with 3 counts of murder, and we know that is absurd).

In my opinion a healthy egg produced by a woman contained elements essential for human life as does a healthy sperm produced by a man. Once the two get together, you have ALL the elements of a human life. That essentially is when a human life begins as not a single one of us exists without first being that. Not one of us exists without that fertilized egg attaching itself to the uterine wall, becoming a zygote, embryo, and progressing on to being a sentient being in the womb and then freed to live in the world outside the womb.

The existence of a brain does not matter. To end that process at any stage for ANY reason is to end a human life. While I recognize that there are medical/necessary/ethical reasons to end the life of that developing human being or to prevent it from having opportunity to develop to any stage, I want our culture to always be keenly aware that it is a human life that is being ended. And our policies should encourage that it be ending for ONLY medical/necessary/ethical reasons meaning that ntentionally ending that life will be very rare.

 

[buttercup]

So would it be "murder" to cut out a malignant tumor?

Do you really not understand the difference between a skin cell that is a mere PART of a human being, and a whole, genetically unique human organism?

I'm truly astonished that people still bring up comments like yours (and a few others here) which show a total lack of understanding of basic biology.

 

[dblack]

I'm not convinced that it is a human life from the moment of conception (given that it doesn't have a brain, for example), but at some point during pregnancy, I believe it qualifies as a human life.

If people are merely arguing that it is a "potential life" from the moment of conception, then preventing a potential life from coming into existence obviously isn't the same as taking a life from existence. (If that was true, then if a person only has 2 children when they have the ability to have 5 means they should be charged with 3 counts of murder, and we know that is absurd).

Birth. That what the word means.