When is an embryo/fetus a human life?

[Chuz Life]

So does that mean someone could've killed you when you were one years old, and that wouldn't have been wrong, because in your mind it was before you were "conceived"?

lol (sorry to laugh, but that is so mixed up and silly.)

They are trolling and they aren't even good at it.

 

[buttercup]

They are trolling and they aren't even good at it.

It's hard to tell sometimes if someone is trolling, or sincerely scientifically illiterate and morally confused.

 

[Chuz Life]

It's hard to tell sometimes if someone is trolling, or sincerely scientifically illiterate and morally confused.

The older I get, the more I value what little time I have left.

 

[cnm]

So does that mean someone could've killed you when you were one years old, and that wouldn't have been wrong, because in your mind it was before you were "conceived"?

lol (sorry to laugh, but that is so mixed up and silly.)

I wouldn't have minded.

 

[cnm]

"What it is then that makes your biological father YOUR biological "father" / Biological Parent?"

I imagine this applies to my mother as well: That I was told so some time after I was conceived.

 

[cnm]

It's hard to tell sometimes if someone is trolling, or sincerely scientifically illiterate and morally confused.

Well I'm not the sharpest knife in the block, I'm quite happy to admit that. How about explaining, so I can understand it, the scientific import of week six?

 

[Chuz Life]

I imagine this applies to my mother as well: That I was told so some time after I was conceived.

The question is "what makes your father YOUR biological father?"

 

[cnm]

The question is "what makes your father YOUR biological father?"

What part of 'I was told so' is not getting in?

 

[Meathead]

I'm not convinced that it is a human life from the moment of conception (given that it doesn't have a brain, for example), but at some point during pregnancy, I believe it qualifies as a human life.

If people are merely arguing that it is a "potential life" from the moment of conception, then preventing a potential life from coming into existence obviously isn't the same as taking a life from existence. (If that was true, then if a person only has 2 children when they have the ability to have 5 means they should be charged with 3 counts of murder, and we know that is absurd).

Pretty easy. "Abort" means to stop something in progress and the answer to abortions in this sense is obviously human life.

BTW, I don't have strong opinions on this issue except to say there are far better ways to control birth these days.

 

[Chuz Life]

What part of 'I was told so' is not getting in?

'I was told that you are a ******* retard'

Does that make it fact?

 

[Grumblenuts]

The question is "what makes your father YOUR biological father?"

Do you have an answer? An ultimate point?

 

[cnm]

'I was told that you are a ******* retard'

Does that make it fact?

If your parents said it, apparently it does.

 

[Mac-7]

You're essentially defining a human life as DNA. I'm skeptical of that definition. I think consciousness has something to do with it.

An unborn child has little or no consciouness

DNA is evidence that we exist as human beings from the moment of conception

 

[alang1216]

I'm not convinced that it is a human life from the moment of conception (given that it doesn't have a brain, for example), but at some point during pregnancy, I believe it qualifies as a human life.

If people are merely arguing that it is a "potential life" from the moment of conception, then preventing a potential life from coming into existence obviously isn't the same as taking a life from existence. (If that was true, then if a person only has 2 children when they have the ability to have 5 means they should be charged with 3 counts of murder, and we know that is absurd).

It is our brain that makes humans unique so that is my benchmark. Once a brain is developed enough to have higher functions, it is worthy of protecting. I'm not a biologist but, if I had to guess, I'd put it at the end of the first trimester.

 

[alang1216]

DNA is evidence that we exist as human beings from the moment of conception

Every cell in our bodies has human DNA. Why is a fertilized egg different from every other cell we have? To me, it is nothing special at that moment. Later on it becomes special but you could say that about every sperm and egg cell too.

 

[Dragonlady]

Heartbeat. If a heart stopping means death, a heart beginning to beat signifies life. For any species.

Wrong. The “heartbeat” you refer to is simply an electrical impulse. Not a sign of human life.

The Bible says that you become “human” when you draw your first breathe - at birth. That is when the “soul” enters the body.

It’s in Genesis.

 

[Mac-7]

Every cell in our bodies has human DNA. Why is a fertilized egg different from every other cell we have? To me, it is nothing special at that moment. Later on it becomes special but you could say that about every sperm and egg cell too.

I’m referring to lib arguments that abortion does not involve taking a human life

 

[SweetSue92]

I'm not convinced that it is a human life from the moment of conception (given that it doesn't have a brain, for example), but at some point during pregnancy, I believe it qualifies as a human life.

If people are merely arguing that it is a "potential life" from the moment of conception, then preventing a potential life from coming into existence obviously isn't the same as taking a life from existence. (If that was true, then if a person only has 2 children when they have the ability to have 5 means they should be charged with 3 counts of murder, and we know that is absurd).

I'm pro-life and believe the potential for life starts at conception, and it definitely in play at implantation.

For those who say "what about rape and incest"...I personally am not opposed to Plan B contraceptive, which prevents implantation. Anything beyond that I do not support

 

[SweetSue92]

Wrong. The “heartbeat” you refer to is simply an electrical impulse. Not a sign of human life.

The Bible says that you become “human” when you draw your first breathe - at birth. That is when the “soul” enters the body.

It’s in Genesis.

"you knit me together in my mother's womb..." Psalm 139:13

 

[SweetSue92]

Wrong. The “heartbeat” you refer to is simply an electrical impulse. Not a sign of human life.

The Bible says that you become “human” when you draw your first breathe - at birth. That is when the “soul” enters the body.

It’s in Genesis.

That's not what it says. That's how GOD produced life before the first pregnancy. It's descriptive, not prescriptive.