When is an embryo/fetus a human life?

[Midnight FM]

No. It’s not

No. It isn’t.

It is the taking of a human life.

You’re truly not at all bright.

Human lives have consciousness. A zygote does not.

Wrong again. Skin cells have the human’s DNA. UNIQUE DNA. No other person has that unique DNA. THAT DOESN’T MEAN THE PERSON DOESN’T HAVE HIS OR HER OWN CODED DNA WITHIN HIS OWN CELLS.

Doesn't matter. Having human DNA doesn't make something a person.

You don’t have a brain, either. But that’s not exactly the hallmark of when life begins.

Life begins when consciousness arises.

 

[Frankenstein]

your scenario doesn't exist for many and the abortions will continue.

The rate of abortions is highest among women aged 20-24.

It is the only issue. Abortion as birth control is perfectly fine. Assuming no human life is being taken, then there's no issue.


Skin cells have human DNA. They are life. They aren't a person.

Likewise, a zygote lacks a human brain or consciousness, so it's certainly not a baby.

Skin cells are a part of the whole, and do not have a heart beat, and brain waves, next illogical fallacy argument

 

[Frankenstein]

It is the only issue. Abortion as birth control is perfectly fine. Assuming no human life is being taken, then there's no issue.


Skin cells have human DNA. They are life. They aren't a person.

Likewise, a zygote lacks a human brain or consciousness, so it's certainly not a baby.

Have you witnessed that Zygote, which is just another developmental step in the human existence, the very beginning of life, come out of the womb as a dog?

 

[M14 Shooter]

Life begins when consciousness arises.

You have no factual or rational basis for this claim.

 

[Frankenstein]

Human lives have consciousness. A zygote does not.


Doesn't matter. Having human DNA doesn't make something a person.


Life begins when consciousness arises.

Are you God? Do you know for a fact when consciousness arises, can you prove scientifically it does not exist at conception, no of course you can't

 

[Midnight FM]

You have no factual or rational basis for this claim.

Indeed I do.

A person's life ends when their consciousness ceases to exist.

A dead body may be a "human organism", and have human DNA, but it is no longer a person, because it lacks a human consciousness.

 

[Midnight FM]

Are you God? Do you know for a fact when consciousness arises, can you prove scientifically it does not exist at conception, no of course you can't

A zygote has no brain, and therefore, no consciousness.

 

[Midnight FM]

Have you witnessed that Zygote, which is just another developmental step in the human existence, the very beginning of life, come out of the womb as a dog?

The beginning of life is when consciousness arises.

It doesn't matter if a zygote is a "human organism". What matters is whether or not it has human consciousness.

 

[M14 Shooter]

A person's life ends when their consciousness ceases to exist.

You have no factual or rational basis for this claim, either - and even if true, it does not prove your prior claim.

 

[Frankenstein]

Indeed I do.

A person's life ends when their consciousness ceases to exist.

A dead body may be a "human organism", and have human DNA, but it is no longer a person, because it lacks a human consciousness.

It ends with no heart beat

 

[pknopp]

A zygote has no brain, and therefore, no consciousness.

And abortions aren't happening at this stage.

 

[Midnight FM]

You have no factual or rational basis for this claim, either - and even if true, it does not prove your prior claim.

So you're saying that a deceased person's body still has a "right to life" after it's dead, because it is a "human organism" and has "human DNA"?

That makes absolutely no sense.

 

[Frankenstein]

A zygote has no brain, and therefore, no consciousness.

You have no empirical evidence for this

 

[M14 Shooter]

So you're saying....

I said:
You have no factual or rational basis for this claim, either - and even if true, it does not prove your prior claim.

Your response does nothing to change this.

 

[Frankenstein]

So you're saying that a deceased person's body still has a "right to life" after it's dead, because it is a "human organism" and has "human DNA"?

That makes absolutely no sense.

is the heart beating?

 

[BackAgain]

Human lives have consciousness. A zygote does not.

Sounds like a well established definition of life except for the fact that it’s actually just an opinion. A mere opinion which you are unable to support.

Doesn't matter. Having human DNA doesn't make something a person.

Wrong again. If a zygote has giraffe DNA it’s never going to be a human. If a zygote has human DNA — then, if not snuffed out — it will always be a human.

Life begins when consciousness arises.

You still just stupidly repeat your mantra. You saying it does not make it so.

 

[Frankenstein]

The beginning of life is when consciousness arises.

It doesn't matter if a zygote is a "human organism". What matters is whether or not it has human consciousness.

So a person in a coma, who has no brain activity, but still a heartbeat, is dead?

 

[Midnight FM]

[/QUOTE]

Wrong again. If a zygote has giraffe DNA it’s never going to be a human. If a zygote has human DNA — then, if not snuffed out — it will always be a human.

No, it will be a "human organism". But it won't be a "human" in the sense that a baby is, because it lacks a brain and consciousness.

 

[Frankenstein]

No, it will be a "human organism". But it won't be a "human" in the sense that a baby is, because it lacks a brain and consciousness.
[/QUOTE]
Dude you are just arguing to argue, your posts are just tripe and unsubstantiated, it's jut blood lust for dead babies

 

[Frankenstein]

You have no factual or rational basis for this claim.

scientific proof is only needed when it suits them