When Emotion Is The Guiding Principle

Looney liberals believe that feelings and emotions are more important than verified facts. ... :cuckoo:
That is true of every liberal woman I know!
Interesting issue --- I have thought for some time that this is true. That is, that what people "feel" (believe) is true is really all that matters. To them and them alone anyway. Nobody ever changes their opinions because you "prove" something to them, right? I think "facts" are just opinions people are very, very committed to persuade you to believe.

It's okay with me if people don't believe what I do. I just wish I could keep expressing myself, and they would express themselves without the abuse that I have run into all day here.

I'm outta here for awhile, jeepers, everybody take a happy pill! Not you, Aqua, no problem with your post, IMO.
 
ā€¦rather than intellect and understanding, you vote for folks like Biden or Obama.
You call your candidate god, Jesus, and the messiah......as though you were a cult, a religion.
And you try to blame the other side for doing what you are guilty of doing.




1.It is not based on any intelligent, informed understandingā€¦..we know this because when asked

a. for Trump policies they voted against, or

b. Biden policies they voted forā€¦.

ā€¦.one is met with that deer-in-the-headlights look.

This is a very simple explanation, fitting, because these are very simple people.

They follow orders, and their emotions.



2. The sort with that ā€˜Trump Derangement Syndromeā€™ thing will neither have any compunction about repeating lies about the former President, nor even trying to support the liesā€¦..they simply repeat them.
Like this:
ā€œā€¦the right supports him and supports his dictatorial drive for power. They want a dictator as long it is their dictator.ā€ https://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/he-wants-to-be-americas-first-dictator.841760/

Can they support any such ā€œdictatorial drive for powerā€?

ā€œThey want a dictator.ā€

This, in reference to the side that stands for individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.
ā€œfree markets, free voices, free peopleā€

And from a side that is infamous for censorship, ā€˜hate speech,ā€™ and thought crimes....and violence.





3. One would conclude that their madness is based on imagining Trump as Julius Caesar.

"Caesar was now master of Rome and made himself consul and dictator. He used his power to carry out much-needed reform, relieving debt, enlarging the senate, building the Forum Iulium and revising the calendar. Dictatorship was always regarded a temporary position but in 44 BC, Caesar took it for life."
History - Julius Caesar - BBC

I, for one, would love to see them make that argumentā€¦..beyond simply claiming so.



4. If they could, wellā€¦.weā€™d be speaking of a Left with an intellectual ability that is clearly lacking in Democrat voters. Instead, we have control by the dumbest among usā€¦..or, as Chris Matthews, using biblical language to describe Messiah Obama coming to the MSNBC studios to do an interview with him, ā€œamongstā€ us.



5. But I would be happy to continue the analogy, and remind all that if Trump is Julius Caesar, then every Democrat voter is the back-stabber, Brutus.
My question is simple. Why do you expect people who literally would have been injured or possibly have died if the people who breached the capitol would have gotten to them (I know this because well over a hundred law enforcement officers got injured trying to protect them) NOT react to that FACT with the emotion that that FACT deserves?

In any case, anywhere, at any time, a prosecution has used the emotion of the CONSEQUENCES of actions to drive home the need of punishing those responsible.
 
"Make America Great Again was the ultimate emotional appeal."
Of course it was.
You can point to some successes but Trump changed the country, not back to some place of glory, but attempted to drag us down to a level we havenā€™t seen in modern history.

We donā€™t stand for human rights. America first means thatā€™s not our priority.

We donā€™t stand for reliability or consistency. Our promises are subject to the whims of a poorly informed president.

We arenā€™t a demonstration of good governance. Our handling of COVID is an embarrassment of poor science and motivated reasoning.

We donā€™t stand for truth. Trumpā€™s clearly ended any rational claim to do so.

If there was ever any doubt, the Capitol riot demonstrated that a large chunk of our population, those most devoted to Trump, have abandoned American principles.



I just rammed the truth down your throat, and the best you can do is the usual 'is not, isssssssss noooottttttttt!!!!!!!!!!"


Hit the road.
Your truth is emotionally guided.

Peace deals between countries that never were at war.

Trillion dollar deficits and low interest rates in the best economy ever.

Defeating ISIS with the strategy put in place under the previous president that was already working.

Tearing up treaties and then never bothering to renegotiate.

Start a trade war that primarily harms working class Americans without a resolution.

When your list of grand achievements is spending $1 billion on rural broadband, you know youā€™re scraping the bottom of the bucket.
there ya go with the word games again,,

it takes a hell of a lot of dishonesty to spin those in the way you did,,,
 
LOL Anyone watching the impeachment hearings have seen the defense was all about emotions and used slippery slope examples, making even the Federalist Society LOL at their presentation.

The Democratic presentation is logical, factual and convincing. The Evidence is being built brick by brick and has already put forth in the minds of honest people that the evidence of build by the former president is beyond any reasonable doubt; of course the author of the OP is too biased to be reasonable or honest.
Then take those same facts and expel Maxine Waters, Cory Booker, Talib, Omar, and Pelosi from Congress.
Go ahead and work for that.....or are you just all talk?
Why? They were politicians doing what politicians do. Incite their base and give their base reason to protest.
Sadly, some unhinged people took it to another level.

As for Trump, he did what politicians do. Incite his base and give them reason to protest.
Sadly, some unhinged people took it to another level.

But...

Democrats. Good people. Did not think they would incite violence with their words. They deserve a pass and they were given one

Trump? Bad man. He knew he would incite violence with his words. He deserves to be brought to trial for it.

Now...this is a debate board. I get it. "fight for my side"....I really do get it....

But if you folks dont see it, then you are not very bright people.
 
LOL Anyone watching the impeachment hearings have seen the defense was all about emotions and used slippery slope examples, making even the Federalist Society LOL at their presentation.

The Democratic presentation is logical, factual and convincing. The Evidence is being built brick by brick and has already put forth in the minds of honest people that the evidence of build by the former president is beyond any reasonable doubt; of course the author of the OP is too biased to be reasonable or honest.

There is nothing logical or factual from the dems. Its all emotion and feelings. Nothing of substance, only vitriol, hate, division.
 
Looney liberals believe that feelings and emotions are more important than verified facts. ... :cuckoo:

It just feels that way, deep down in yer gut doesn't it? It must be true,


This brought you crawling in, but you couldn't find any way to refute it....





1.It is not based on any intelligent, informed understandingā€¦..we know this because when asked

a. for Trump policies they voted against, or

b. Biden policies they voted forā€¦.

ā€¦.one is met with that deer-in-the-headlights look.

This is a very simple explanation, fitting, because these are very simple people.

They follow orders, and their emotions.

a. Never claimed to have voted against Trumpybear for any other reason than his face. How could anybody vote for a face like that for president! Ugh, that face!

b. Biden is a man of reason, which over qualifies him above Trump on all levels to be president.


" Never claimed to have voted against Trumpybear for any other reason than his face. "


Exactly the proof if what I have said about Biden voters......they're fools.

And this one is proud of being a fool.


Excellent.
 
"Make America Great Again was the ultimate emotional appeal."
Of course it was.
You can point to some successes but Trump changed the country, not back to some place of glory, but attempted to drag us down to a level we havenā€™t seen in modern history.

We donā€™t stand for human rights. America first means thatā€™s not our priority.

We donā€™t stand for reliability or consistency. Our promises are subject to the whims of a poorly informed president.

We arenā€™t a demonstration of good governance. Our handling of COVID is an embarrassment of poor science and motivated reasoning.

We donā€™t stand for truth. Trumpā€™s clearly ended any rational claim to do so.

If there was ever any doubt, the Capitol riot demonstrated that a large chunk of our population, those most devoted to Trump, have abandoned American principles.



I just rammed the truth down your throat, and the best you can do is the usual 'is not, isssssssss noooottttttttt!!!!!!!!!!"


Hit the road.
Your truth is emotionally guided.

Peace deals between countries that never were at war.

Trillion dollar deficits and low interest rates in the best economy ever.

Defeating ISIS with the strategy put in place under the previous president that was already working.

Tearing up treaties and then never bothering to renegotiate.

Start a trade war that primarily harms working class Americans without a resolution.

When your list of grand achievements is spending $1 billion on rural broadband, you know youā€™re scraping the bottom of the bucket.


So sorry.....we have already fulfilled our daily quota of simpletons and imbeciles......so we have no need of your services.
 
ā€¦rather than intellect and understanding, you vote for folks like Biden or Obama.
You call your candidate god, Jesus, and the messiah......as though you were a cult, a religion.
And you try to blame the other side for doing what you are guilty of doing.




1.It is not based on any intelligent, informed understandingā€¦..we know this because when asked

a. for Trump policies they voted against, or

b. Biden policies they voted forā€¦.

ā€¦.one is met with that deer-in-the-headlights look.

This is a very simple explanation, fitting, because these are very simple people.

They follow orders, and their emotions.



2. The sort with that ā€˜Trump Derangement Syndromeā€™ thing will neither have any compunction about repeating lies about the former President, nor even trying to support the liesā€¦..they simply repeat them.
Like this:
ā€œā€¦the right supports him and supports his dictatorial drive for power. They want a dictator as long it is their dictator.ā€ https://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/he-wants-to-be-americas-first-dictator.841760/

Can they support any such ā€œdictatorial drive for powerā€?

ā€œThey want a dictator.ā€

This, in reference to the side that stands for individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.
ā€œfree markets, free voices, free peopleā€

And from a side that is infamous for censorship, ā€˜hate speech,ā€™ and thought crimes....and violence.





3. One would conclude that their madness is based on imagining Trump as Julius Caesar.

"Caesar was now master of Rome and made himself consul and dictator. He used his power to carry out much-needed reform, relieving debt, enlarging the senate, building the Forum Iulium and revising the calendar. Dictatorship was always regarded a temporary position but in 44 BC, Caesar took it for life."
History - Julius Caesar - BBC

I, for one, would love to see them make that argumentā€¦..beyond simply claiming so.



4. If they could, wellā€¦.weā€™d be speaking of a Left with an intellectual ability that is clearly lacking in Democrat voters. Instead, we have control by the dumbest among usā€¦..or, as Chris Matthews, using biblical language to describe Messiah Obama coming to the MSNBC studios to do an interview with him, ā€œamongstā€ us.



5. But I would be happy to continue the analogy, and remind all that if Trump is Julius Caesar, then every Democrat voter is the back-stabber, Brutus.
My question is simple. Why do you expect people who literally would have been injured or possibly have died if the people who breached the capitol would have gotten to them (I know this because well over a hundred law enforcement officers got injured trying to protect them) NOT react to that FACT with the emotion that that FACT deserves?

In any case, anywhere, at any time, a prosecution has used the emotion of the CONSEQUENCES of actions to drive home the need of punishing those responsible.



The people responsible for violence at the Capitol were Biden voters.




1.After witnessing a decade of Democrat authorized and inspired riots, how believable is it that the Right is responsible for the Capitol mayhem?





2. The Far Left relies on a dumbed down, history-challenged publicā€¦.thatā€™s the reason for government schooling. Remediation begins with terms like ā€˜agent provocateur,ā€™ and ā€˜false flag operation.ā€™ And nobody does it better than the Left.











3. ā€œThe Reichstag fire (German: Reichstagsbrand, listen (helpĀ·info)) was an arson attack on the Reichstag building, home of the German parliament in Berlin, on Monday 27 February 1933, precisely four weeks after Adolf Hitler was sworn in as Chancellor of Germany. The day after the fire, the Reichstag Fire Decree was passed. The Nazi Party used the fire as a pretext to claim that communists were plotting against the German government, which made the fire pivotal in the establishment of Nazi Germany.ā€ Reichstag fire - Wikipedia







4. ā€œHitler, however, insisted that the Communist Party, which was a considerable force within the Reichstag, had set the fire, and pressed German President Paul von Hindenburg to approve of an emergency law suspending civil liberties. Communist leaders, including the Communist members of the Reichstag, were hunted down and arrested.



Without their presence in the Reichstag, the National Socialists and their coalition partners had a majority. That enabled the Nazis to pass a further law, the Enabling Act, on March 23, 1933, giving Hitler dictatorial powers and removing any obstacle to his absolute supremacy.ā€ The Left Is Enjoying Its Reichstag Fire Moment







5. ā€˜Leftist Antifa Among Mob Storming US Capitolā€™



ā€“ Facial recognition experts and backers of American President Donald J. Trump said members of the hardline leftist Antifa movement infiltrated protestors who stormed the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday.



Several witnesses and reports monitored by Worthy News suggested radical leftist vandals broke into the building housing the U.S. Congress while most Trump supporters were loud but peaceful.ā€ https://www.worthynews.com/55452-leftist-antifa-among-mob-storming-us-capitol







There is no disputing that the Democrats have had far more practice at riots than the Right.

Biden voters are well practiced.

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6. Did you find stories in the media excoriating the dozens of anti-America riots by Biden voters?



Here they are in June, attacking the White Houseā€¦.practicing for the Capitol.







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7. ā€œNo one can point to any statement from President Trump calling upon his supporters to storm the Capitol, much less to stage a coup against the U.S. government, but it doesnā€™t matter anymore. The establishment media and the social media giants are insisting that he incited the attack on the Capitol and was trying to install himself as a dictator by means of a guy with a buffalo horn hat and some other dopes and wingnuts, and if you donā€™t believe it, youā€™re a racist, bigoted, MAGA-hat-wearing fascist who deserves to be silenced along with the president, and soon will be. But itā€™s clear who the real fascists are, and they are exploiting their Reichstag Fire moment to the fullest.ā€ The Left Is Enjoying Its Reichstag Fire Moment







The NYTimes provided proof that it wasn't Trump supporters:



ā€œAbout 20 minutes before Trumpā€™s speech ends, some people in the Capitol crowd harass officers posted at the barricades and start to get physical. Others follow suit, until they violently overwhelm the police and breach the buildingā€™s outer perimeter.ā€ How a Presidential Rally Turned Into a Capitol Rampage


Two facts that the past several years have established:



  • Nothing the media claims turns out to be true.
  • There could hardly be better instigators of violence, than those Biden voters who have been well practiced in ā€˜the art.ā€™
With those facts in mind......who was responsible for the Capitol violence?

8. ā€œVideo Reveals Trump Supporters Tried to Stop the Violence
Violence by Antifa on the south side where Trump supporters were told to March to. Supporters stopped the breakage but he started again later. MSM keeps saying itā€™s Trump http://supporters.itā€™s not.








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9. 9. "The National Socialists used the Reichstag fire to destroy all political opposition in Germany and assert total control over the lives of every German citizen. They used it to give themselves official, pseudo-legal permission to break every moral law and ethical code ever known to mankind, and ultimately to murder tens of millions of people, including six million Jews (the particular target of their hatred), and lay waste to the entire European continent.



The American Left of today has followed the Nazisā€™ Reichstag Fire playbook to a T thus far. What is to prevent them from attempting to implement the whole thing? The one thing saving us from woke totalitarianism at this point may be the fact that the sinister authoritarians of the Democratic Party, the social media corporations, and the establishment media may already have overreached. America in 2020, even after fifty years of woke indoctrination in our schools, is not like Germany of 1933. We have a strong tradition of freedom, notably the freedom of speech. In attempting to impose their totalitarian woke straitjacket upon the American people, the Left is going to encounter considerably more opposition than the Nazis did in Germany, where the Weimar Republic was the nationā€™s first attempt at representative government and never enjoyed great support among the people."


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10. ā€œAnalysis concludes Antifa provoked shooting of Ashli Babbitt at Capitol
'The ones who were agitating the crowd were not Trump supporters'

An analysis of videos of the death of Air Force veteran Ashli Babbitt at the U.S. Capitol indicates Antifa activists provoked the fatal gunshot from a police officer. Japanese investigator Misako Ganaha explained in a video interview with Epoch Times reporter Joshua Philipp on his ā€œCrossroadsā€ program that she analyzed two lengthy videos, affording two different angles of the incident near the House chamberā€¦. just prior to the shooting, two men who had been agitating the crowd broke the glass on a set of doors.

ā€¦ the same Marxist ā€œagitate and divideā€ tactics employed by leftists in her home countryā€¦. part of the tactic, she said, is for someone in collaboration with the agitators to serve as a ā€œwitnessā€ to mainstream media, which tells the story ā€œwithout analyzing.ā€ Media simply repeats what the witness says, explained Ganaha, ā€œso the world does not know the truth.ā€ Analysis concludes Antifa provoked shooting of Ashli Babbitt at Capitol

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11. ā€œBLM instigator of Capitol riots, John Earle Sullivan, arrested

The Utah Black Lives Matter "activist" has been bragging about his involvement in instigating the Capitol riots. Now, he's been arrested.


The deadly riots at the Capitol last week that have sparked Big Tech cancelations and prompted another impeachment of President Trump were instigated in part by Black Lives Matter and Antifa ā€œactivists,ā€ according to multiple media reports. One of the highest profile suspects, John Earle Sullivan from Utah, has been arrested.ā€

This story will be buried by mainstream media and suppressed by Big Tech. The arrest of John Earle Sullivan, a known Black Lives Matter leader and provocateur, belies the accepted narrative that Trump-supporters alone caused the riots.ā€ BLM instigator of Capitol riots, John Earle Sullivan, arrested

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12. ā€œDemocrats Cling Desperately to Trump Hatred
The Democrats are not going to be able to hide much longer behind their Trump hatred. But itā€™s really all theyā€™ve got.​

With nearly airtight totalitarian uniformity, the American media robotically repeat that there is no possible argument to be made that the 2020 presidential election produced an unjust result.

ā€¦Trump has been condemned for his remarks to hundreds of thousands of his supporters in Washington on January 6, and it is now a political commandment that he is responsible for the ensuing illegal forced entry and fatal violence at the United States Capitol.
He actually told his supporters that they should ā€œpeacefully and patriotically make your voices be heardā€ when they proceeded on to the Capitol;ā€¦


They have made Donald Trump the leader of all who object to government-restricted freedom of expression, corrupt election practices, and the transformation of America into a socialist commune. At the moment of Joe Bidenā€™s ultimate triumph, he and his ramshackle coalition of contending (and in some cases disreputable) interests are exposed in their ghastly infirmity. The totalitarian woke media will not be able to disguise this macabre farce for long.ā€ Democrats Cling Desperately to Trump Hatred - American Greatness
13. ā€œJames, brother of accused leftist provocateur John Sullivan, claims 226 Antifa members started Capitol riots
John Sullivan was arrested yesterday in connection with instigating the Capitol riots on January 6th. A video of him and CNN photojournalist Jade Sacker emerged this week that shows them giddy following the murder of Trump-supporter Ashli Babbitt. Now, Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani is wondering why a text message from James Sullivan was not revealed during the Presidentā€™s second impeachment hearings in Congress.

According to the text, James Sullivan makes a very bold claim: ā€œIā€™m currently working with the FBI to expose and place total blame on John and the 226 members of antifa that instigated the Capitol ā€˜riotā€™ I was able to get my agent out of trouble along with three other uthanā€™s.ā€

ā€¦every day brings more evidence that Antifa and other left-wing ā€œactivistsā€ incited the crowd to commit crimes. Videos of Antifa members secretly embedded with the Trump-supporters appear to reinforce these claims.

This all jibes with the credible conspiracy theory that Democrats or other interested parties planned this ā€œfalse flagā€ attack in order to push for impeachment.ā€ James, brother of accused leftist provocateur John Sullivan, claims 226 Antifa members started Capitol riots

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14. ā€œVerified twitter user Amuse breaks everything down in further detail in a series of tweets.

"To make this clear. CNN was embedded with BLM/Antifa pretending to be Trump supporters taping them incite a riot. This is freaking huge. If CNN is allowed to maintain its press access anywhere in DC there needs to be a serious overhaul of our entire system," he tweeted.

Here's another one, who showed up with furs, and also got himself arrested. According to the New York Post:

Aaron Mostofsky was busted Tuesday at his brotherā€™s house in Brooklyn by federal agents on multiple charges, including theft of government property for allegedly stealing a police riot shield and bulletproof vest, the source said.

Mostofsky, who is the son of Shlomo Mostofsky, a Supreme Court judge and a prominent figure in the Orthodox Jewish community, was photographed with both items.

Video circulating on Twitter following Mostofskyā€™s arrest shows FBI agents swarming the home and carting out what appeared to be the fur pelts and walking stick he had on him during the insurrection.

His politics? According to this report, registered Democrat.ā€



Rush to judgment on Trump? Multiple leftists arrested for Capitol riot

And Zero Hedge.

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ā€¦rather than intellect and understanding, you vote for folks like Biden or Obama.
You call your candidate god, Jesus, and the messiah......as though you were a cult, a religion.
And you try to blame the other side for doing what you are guilty of doing.




1.It is not based on any intelligent, informed understandingā€¦..we know this because when asked

a. for Trump policies they voted against, or

b. Biden policies they voted forā€¦.

ā€¦.one is met with that deer-in-the-headlights look.

This is a very simple explanation, fitting, because these are very simple people.

They follow orders, and their emotions.



2. The sort with that ā€˜Trump Derangement Syndromeā€™ thing will neither have any compunction about repeating lies about the former President, nor even trying to support the liesā€¦..they simply repeat them.
Like this:
ā€œā€¦the right supports him and supports his dictatorial drive for power. They want a dictator as long it is their dictator.ā€ https://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/he-wants-to-be-americas-first-dictator.841760/

Can they support any such ā€œdictatorial drive for powerā€?

ā€œThey want a dictator.ā€

This, in reference to the side that stands for individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.
ā€œfree markets, free voices, free peopleā€

And from a side that is infamous for censorship, ā€˜hate speech,ā€™ and thought crimes....and violence.





3. One would conclude that their madness is based on imagining Trump as Julius Caesar.

"Caesar was now master of Rome and made himself consul and dictator. He used his power to carry out much-needed reform, relieving debt, enlarging the senate, building the Forum Iulium and revising the calendar. Dictatorship was always regarded a temporary position but in 44 BC, Caesar took it for life."
History - Julius Caesar - BBC

I, for one, would love to see them make that argumentā€¦..beyond simply claiming so.



4. If they could, wellā€¦.weā€™d be speaking of a Left with an intellectual ability that is clearly lacking in Democrat voters. Instead, we have control by the dumbest among usā€¦..or, as Chris Matthews, using biblical language to describe Messiah Obama coming to the MSNBC studios to do an interview with him, ā€œamongstā€ us.



5. But I would be happy to continue the analogy, and remind all that if Trump is Julius Caesar, then every Democrat voter is the back-stabber, Brutus.
My question is simple. Why do you expect people who literally would have been injured or possibly have died if the people who breached the capitol would have gotten to them (I know this because well over a hundred law enforcement officers got injured trying to protect them) NOT react to that FACT with the emotion that that FACT deserves?

In any case, anywhere, at any time, a prosecution has used the emotion of the CONSEQUENCES of actions to drive home the need of punishing those responsible.



The people responsible for violence at the Capitol were Biden voters.




1.After witnessing a decade of Democrat authorized and inspired riots, how believable is it that the Right is responsible for the Capitol mayhem?





2. The Far Left relies on a dumbed down, history-challenged publicā€¦.thatā€™s the reason for government schooling. Remediation begins with terms like ā€˜agent provocateur,ā€™ and ā€˜false flag operation.ā€™ And nobody does it better than the Left.











3. ā€œThe Reichstag fire (German: Reichstagsbrand, listen (helpĀ·info)) was an arson attack on the Reichstag building, home of the German parliament in Berlin, on Monday 27 February 1933, precisely four weeks after Adolf Hitler was sworn in as Chancellor of Germany. The day after the fire, the Reichstag Fire Decree was passed. The Nazi Party used the fire as a pretext to claim that communists were plotting against the German government, which made the fire pivotal in the establishment of Nazi Germany.ā€ Reichstag fire - Wikipedia







4. ā€œHitler, however, insisted that the Communist Party, which was a considerable force within the Reichstag, had set the fire, and pressed German President Paul von Hindenburg to approve of an emergency law suspending civil liberties. Communist leaders, including the Communist members of the Reichstag, were hunted down and arrested.



Without their presence in the Reichstag, the National Socialists and their coalition partners had a majority. That enabled the Nazis to pass a further law, the Enabling Act, on March 23, 1933, giving Hitler dictatorial powers and removing any obstacle to his absolute supremacy.ā€ The Left Is Enjoying Its Reichstag Fire Moment







5. ā€˜Leftist Antifa Among Mob Storming US Capitolā€™



ā€“ Facial recognition experts and backers of American President Donald J. Trump said members of the hardline leftist Antifa movement infiltrated protestors who stormed the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday.



Several witnesses and reports monitored by Worthy News suggested radical leftist vandals broke into the building housing the U.S. Congress while most Trump supporters were loud but peaceful.ā€ https://www.worthynews.com/55452-leftist-antifa-among-mob-storming-us-capitol







There is no disputing that the Democrats have had far more practice at riots than the Right.

Biden voters are well practiced.

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6. Did you find stories in the media excoriating the dozens of anti-America riots by Biden voters?



Here they are in June, attacking the White Houseā€¦.practicing for the Capitol.







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7. ā€œNo one can point to any statement from President Trump calling upon his supporters to storm the Capitol, much less to stage a coup against the U.S. government, but it doesnā€™t matter anymore. The establishment media and the social media giants are insisting that he incited the attack on the Capitol and was trying to install himself as a dictator by means of a guy with a buffalo horn hat and some other dopes and wingnuts, and if you donā€™t believe it, youā€™re a racist, bigoted, MAGA-hat-wearing fascist who deserves to be silenced along with the president, and soon will be. But itā€™s clear who the real fascists are, and they are exploiting their Reichstag Fire moment to the fullest.ā€ The Left Is Enjoying Its Reichstag Fire Moment







The NYTimes provided proof that it wasn't Trump supporters:



ā€œAbout 20 minutes before Trumpā€™s speech ends, some people in the Capitol crowd harass officers posted at the barricades and start to get physical. Others follow suit, until they violently overwhelm the police and breach the buildingā€™s outer perimeter.ā€ How a Presidential Rally Turned Into a Capitol Rampage


Two facts that the past several years have established:



  • Nothing the media claims turns out to be true.
  • There could hardly be better instigators of violence, than those Biden voters who have been well practiced in ā€˜the art.ā€™
With those facts in mind......who was responsible for the Capitol violence?

8. ā€œVideo Reveals Trump Supporters Tried to Stop the Violence
Violence by Antifa on the south side where Trump supporters were told to March to. Supporters stopped the breakage but he started again later. MSM keeps saying itā€™s Trump http://supporters.itā€™s not.








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9. 9. "The National Socialists used the Reichstag fire to destroy all political opposition in Germany and assert total control over the lives of every German citizen. They used it to give themselves official, pseudo-legal permission to break every moral law and ethical code ever known to mankind, and ultimately to murder tens of millions of people, including six million Jews (the particular target of their hatred), and lay waste to the entire European continent.



The American Left of today has followed the Nazisā€™ Reichstag Fire playbook to a T thus far. What is to prevent them from attempting to implement the whole thing? The one thing saving us from woke totalitarianism at this point may be the fact that the sinister authoritarians of the Democratic Party, the social media corporations, and the establishment media may already have overreached. America in 2020, even after fifty years of woke indoctrination in our schools, is not like Germany of 1933. We have a strong tradition of freedom, notably the freedom of speech. In attempting to impose their totalitarian woke straitjacket upon the American people, the Left is going to encounter considerably more opposition than the Nazis did in Germany, where the Weimar Republic was the nationā€™s first attempt at representative government and never enjoyed great support among the people."


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10. ā€œAnalysis concludes Antifa provoked shooting of Ashli Babbitt at Capitol
'The ones who were agitating the crowd were not Trump supporters'

An analysis of videos of the death of Air Force veteran Ashli Babbitt at the U.S. Capitol indicates Antifa activists provoked the fatal gunshot from a police officer. Japanese investigator Misako Ganaha explained in a video interview with Epoch Times reporter Joshua Philipp on his ā€œCrossroadsā€ program that she analyzed two lengthy videos, affording two different angles of the incident near the House chamberā€¦. just prior to the shooting, two men who had been agitating the crowd broke the glass on a set of doors.

ā€¦ the same Marxist ā€œagitate and divideā€ tactics employed by leftists in her home countryā€¦. part of the tactic, she said, is for someone in collaboration with the agitators to serve as a ā€œwitnessā€ to mainstream media, which tells the story ā€œwithout analyzing.ā€ Media simply repeats what the witness says, explained Ganaha, ā€œso the world does not know the truth.ā€ Analysis concludes Antifa provoked shooting of Ashli Babbitt at Capitol

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11. ā€œBLM instigator of Capitol riots, John Earle Sullivan, arrested

The Utah Black Lives Matter "activist" has been bragging about his involvement in instigating the Capitol riots. Now, he's been arrested.


The deadly riots at the Capitol last week that have sparked Big Tech cancelations and prompted another impeachment of President Trump were instigated in part by Black Lives Matter and Antifa ā€œactivists,ā€ according to multiple media reports. One of the highest profile suspects, John Earle Sullivan from Utah, has been arrested.ā€

This story will be buried by mainstream media and suppressed by Big Tech. The arrest of John Earle Sullivan, a known Black Lives Matter leader and provocateur, belies the accepted narrative that Trump-supporters alone caused the riots.ā€ BLM instigator of Capitol riots, John Earle Sullivan, arrested

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12. ā€œDemocrats Cling Desperately to Trump Hatred
The Democrats are not going to be able to hide much longer behind their Trump hatred. But itā€™s really all theyā€™ve got.​

With nearly airtight totalitarian uniformity, the American media robotically repeat that there is no possible argument to be made that the 2020 presidential election produced an unjust result.

ā€¦Trump has been condemned for his remarks to hundreds of thousands of his supporters in Washington on January 6, and it is now a political commandment that he is responsible for the ensuing illegal forced entry and fatal violence at the United States Capitol.
He actually told his supporters that they should ā€œpeacefully and patriotically make your voices be heardā€ when they proceeded on to the Capitol;ā€¦


They have made Donald Trump the leader of all who object to government-restricted freedom of expression, corrupt election practices, and the transformation of America into a socialist commune. At the moment of Joe Bidenā€™s ultimate triumph, he and his ramshackle coalition of contending (and in some cases disreputable) interests are exposed in their ghastly infirmity. The totalitarian woke media will not be able to disguise this macabre farce for long.ā€ Democrats Cling Desperately to Trump Hatred - American Greatness
13. ā€œJames, brother of accused leftist provocateur John Sullivan, claims 226 Antifa members started Capitol riots
John Sullivan was arrested yesterday in connection with instigating the Capitol riots on January 6th. A video of him and CNN photojournalist Jade Sacker emerged this week that shows them giddy following the murder of Trump-supporter Ashli Babbitt. Now, Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani is wondering why a text message from James Sullivan was not revealed during the Presidentā€™s second impeachment hearings in Congress.

According to the text, James Sullivan makes a very bold claim: ā€œIā€™m currently working with the FBI to expose and place total blame on John and the 226 members of antifa that instigated the Capitol ā€˜riotā€™ I was able to get my agent out of trouble along with three other uthanā€™s.ā€

ā€¦every day brings more evidence that Antifa and other left-wing ā€œactivistsā€ incited the crowd to commit crimes. Videos of Antifa members secretly embedded with the Trump-supporters appear to reinforce these claims.

This all jibes with the credible conspiracy theory that Democrats or other interested parties planned this ā€œfalse flagā€ attack in order to push for impeachment.ā€ James, brother of accused leftist provocateur John Sullivan, claims 226 Antifa members started Capitol riots

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14. ā€œVerified twitter user Amuse breaks everything down in further detail in a series of tweets.

"To make this clear. CNN was embedded with BLM/Antifa pretending to be Trump supporters taping them incite a riot. This is freaking huge. If CNN is allowed to maintain its press access anywhere in DC there needs to be a serious overhaul of our entire system," he tweeted.

Here's another one, who showed up with furs, and also got himself arrested. According to the New York Post:

Aaron Mostofsky was busted Tuesday at his brotherā€™s house in Brooklyn by federal agents on multiple charges, including theft of government property for allegedly stealing a police riot shield and bulletproof vest, the source said.

Mostofsky, who is the son of Shlomo Mostofsky, a Supreme Court judge and a prominent figure in the Orthodox Jewish community, was photographed with both items.

Video circulating on Twitter following Mostofskyā€™s arrest shows FBI agents swarming the home and carting out what appeared to be the fur pelts and walking stick he had on him during the insurrection.

His politics? According to this report, registered Democrat.ā€



Rush to judgment on Trump? Multiple leftists arrested for Capitol riot

And Zero Hedge.

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I asked a very simple question. And made a very simple observation. Coming back with an essay doesn't make a point or answer questions. In fact, it's specifically designed to bury a point.

Your premise is that Democrats are emotional, not rational. (I don't agree but fine). I rebutted in 2 ways. By stating the fact that Democrats in the case of this impeachment would have been harmed and being completely dispassionate about it is hard. And by pointing out that EVERY prosecutor making a case in a court (something that impeachment is) uses emotion to humanize the consequences of harmful actions.
 
So sorry.....we have already fulfilled our daily quota of simpletons and imbeciles......so we have no need of your services.
Donā€™t forget that Trump will forever be remembered as the president who took this country and invested $1 billion in rural broadband. I assume theyā€™ll put him on Mount Rushmore for that.
 
ā€¦rather than intellect and understanding, you vote for folks like Biden or Obama.
You call your candidate god, Jesus, and the messiah......as though you were a cult, a religion.
And you try to blame the other side for doing what you are guilty of doing.




1.It is not based on any intelligent, informed understandingā€¦..we know this because when asked

a. for Trump policies they voted against, or

b. Biden policies they voted forā€¦.

ā€¦.one is met with that deer-in-the-headlights look.

This is a very simple explanation, fitting, because these are very simple people.

They follow orders, and their emotions.



2. The sort with that ā€˜Trump Derangement Syndromeā€™ thing will neither have any compunction about repeating lies about the former President, nor even trying to support the liesā€¦..they simply repeat them.
Like this:
ā€œā€¦the right supports him and supports his dictatorial drive for power. They want a dictator as long it is their dictator.ā€ https://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/he-wants-to-be-americas-first-dictator.841760/

Can they support any such ā€œdictatorial drive for powerā€?

ā€œThey want a dictator.ā€

This, in reference to the side that stands for individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.
ā€œfree markets, free voices, free peopleā€

And from a side that is infamous for censorship, ā€˜hate speech,ā€™ and thought crimes....and violence.





3. One would conclude that their madness is based on imagining Trump as Julius Caesar.

"Caesar was now master of Rome and made himself consul and dictator. He used his power to carry out much-needed reform, relieving debt, enlarging the senate, building the Forum Iulium and revising the calendar. Dictatorship was always regarded a temporary position but in 44 BC, Caesar took it for life."
History - Julius Caesar - BBC

I, for one, would love to see them make that argumentā€¦..beyond simply claiming so.



4. If they could, wellā€¦.weā€™d be speaking of a Left with an intellectual ability that is clearly lacking in Democrat voters. Instead, we have control by the dumbest among usā€¦..or, as Chris Matthews, using biblical language to describe Messiah Obama coming to the MSNBC studios to do an interview with him, ā€œamongstā€ us.



5. But I would be happy to continue the analogy, and remind all that if Trump is Julius Caesar, then every Democrat voter is the back-stabber, Brutus.

You should re-title your thread : "When lies are all I have"

I searched your post with my SEM/EDX electron microscope in hope of finding any hint of intelligence or examples of any lies.

Alas, none of either!

Why is that?

It's the old addage, you can't see what you're not looking for. The truth isn't found with an electron microscope. The truth sits there right out in the open, easy to see. You're just using magnification to try and find some small hope of confirmation of your lunactic theories when every day, in every way, your great god Trump is being shown as a craven, power hunger, liar.
 
ā€¦rather than intellect and understanding, you vote for folks like Biden or Obama.
You call your candidate god, Jesus, and the messiah......as though you were a cult, a religion.
And you try to blame the other side for doing what you are guilty of doing.




1.It is not based on any intelligent, informed understandingā€¦..we know this because when asked

a. for Trump policies they voted against, or

b. Biden policies they voted forā€¦.

ā€¦.one is met with that deer-in-the-headlights look.

This is a very simple explanation, fitting, because these are very simple people.

They follow orders, and their emotions.



2. The sort with that ā€˜Trump Derangement Syndromeā€™ thing will neither have any compunction about repeating lies about the former President, nor even trying to support the liesā€¦..they simply repeat them.
Like this:
ā€œā€¦the right supports him and supports his dictatorial drive for power. They want a dictator as long it is their dictator.ā€ https://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/he-wants-to-be-americas-first-dictator.841760/

Can they support any such ā€œdictatorial drive for powerā€?

ā€œThey want a dictator.ā€

This, in reference to the side that stands for individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.
ā€œfree markets, free voices, free peopleā€

And from a side that is infamous for censorship, ā€˜hate speech,ā€™ and thought crimes....and violence.





3. One would conclude that their madness is based on imagining Trump as Julius Caesar.

"Caesar was now master of Rome and made himself consul and dictator. He used his power to carry out much-needed reform, relieving debt, enlarging the senate, building the Forum Iulium and revising the calendar. Dictatorship was always regarded a temporary position but in 44 BC, Caesar took it for life."
History - Julius Caesar - BBC

I, for one, would love to see them make that argumentā€¦..beyond simply claiming so.



4. If they could, wellā€¦.weā€™d be speaking of a Left with an intellectual ability that is clearly lacking in Democrat voters. Instead, we have control by the dumbest among usā€¦..or, as Chris Matthews, using biblical language to describe Messiah Obama coming to the MSNBC studios to do an interview with him, ā€œamongstā€ us.



5. But I would be happy to continue the analogy, and remind all that if Trump is Julius Caesar, then every Democrat voter is the back-stabber, Brutus.
My question is simple. Why do you expect people who literally would have been injured or possibly have died if the people who breached the capitol would have gotten to them (I know this because well over a hundred law enforcement officers got injured trying to protect them) NOT react to that FACT with the emotion that that FACT deserves?

In any case, anywhere, at any time, a prosecution has used the emotion of the CONSEQUENCES of actions to drive home the need of punishing those responsible.



The people responsible for violence at the Capitol were Biden voters.




1.After witnessing a decade of Democrat authorized and inspired riots, how believable is it that the Right is responsible for the Capitol mayhem?





2. The Far Left relies on a dumbed down, history-challenged publicā€¦.thatā€™s the reason for government schooling. Remediation begins with terms like ā€˜agent provocateur,ā€™ and ā€˜false flag operation.ā€™ And nobody does it better than the Left.











3. ā€œThe Reichstag fire (German: Reichstagsbrand, listen (helpĀ·info)) was an arson attack on the Reichstag building, home of the German parliament in Berlin, on Monday 27 February 1933, precisely four weeks after Adolf Hitler was sworn in as Chancellor of Germany. The day after the fire, the Reichstag Fire Decree was passed. The Nazi Party used the fire as a pretext to claim that communists were plotting against the German government, which made the fire pivotal in the establishment of Nazi Germany.ā€ Reichstag fire - Wikipedia







4. ā€œHitler, however, insisted that the Communist Party, which was a considerable force within the Reichstag, had set the fire, and pressed German President Paul von Hindenburg to approve of an emergency law suspending civil liberties. Communist leaders, including the Communist members of the Reichstag, were hunted down and arrested.



Without their presence in the Reichstag, the National Socialists and their coalition partners had a majority. That enabled the Nazis to pass a further law, the Enabling Act, on March 23, 1933, giving Hitler dictatorial powers and removing any obstacle to his absolute supremacy.ā€ The Left Is Enjoying Its Reichstag Fire Moment







5. ā€˜Leftist Antifa Among Mob Storming US Capitolā€™



ā€“ Facial recognition experts and backers of American President Donald J. Trump said members of the hardline leftist Antifa movement infiltrated protestors who stormed the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday.



Several witnesses and reports monitored by Worthy News suggested radical leftist vandals broke into the building housing the U.S. Congress while most Trump supporters were loud but peaceful.ā€ https://www.worthynews.com/55452-leftist-antifa-among-mob-storming-us-capitol







There is no disputing that the Democrats have had far more practice at riots than the Right.

Biden voters are well practiced.

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6. Did you find stories in the media excoriating the dozens of anti-America riots by Biden voters?



Here they are in June, attacking the White Houseā€¦.practicing for the Capitol.







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7. ā€œNo one can point to any statement from President Trump calling upon his supporters to storm the Capitol, much less to stage a coup against the U.S. government, but it doesnā€™t matter anymore. The establishment media and the social media giants are insisting that he incited the attack on the Capitol and was trying to install himself as a dictator by means of a guy with a buffalo horn hat and some other dopes and wingnuts, and if you donā€™t believe it, youā€™re a racist, bigoted, MAGA-hat-wearing fascist who deserves to be silenced along with the president, and soon will be. But itā€™s clear who the real fascists are, and they are exploiting their Reichstag Fire moment to the fullest.ā€ The Left Is Enjoying Its Reichstag Fire Moment







The NYTimes provided proof that it wasn't Trump supporters:



ā€œAbout 20 minutes before Trumpā€™s speech ends, some people in the Capitol crowd harass officers posted at the barricades and start to get physical. Others follow suit, until they violently overwhelm the police and breach the buildingā€™s outer perimeter.ā€ How a Presidential Rally Turned Into a Capitol Rampage


Two facts that the past several years have established:



  • Nothing the media claims turns out to be true.
  • There could hardly be better instigators of violence, than those Biden voters who have been well practiced in ā€˜the art.ā€™
With those facts in mind......who was responsible for the Capitol violence?

8. ā€œVideo Reveals Trump Supporters Tried to Stop the Violence
Violence by Antifa on the south side where Trump supporters were told to March to. Supporters stopped the breakage but he started again later. MSM keeps saying itā€™s Trump http://supporters.itā€™s not.








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9. 9. "The National Socialists used the Reichstag fire to destroy all political opposition in Germany and assert total control over the lives of every German citizen. They used it to give themselves official, pseudo-legal permission to break every moral law and ethical code ever known to mankind, and ultimately to murder tens of millions of people, including six million Jews (the particular target of their hatred), and lay waste to the entire European continent.



The American Left of today has followed the Nazisā€™ Reichstag Fire playbook to a T thus far. What is to prevent them from attempting to implement the whole thing? The one thing saving us from woke totalitarianism at this point may be the fact that the sinister authoritarians of the Democratic Party, the social media corporations, and the establishment media may already have overreached. America in 2020, even after fifty years of woke indoctrination in our schools, is not like Germany of 1933. We have a strong tradition of freedom, notably the freedom of speech. In attempting to impose their totalitarian woke straitjacket upon the American people, the Left is going to encounter considerably more opposition than the Nazis did in Germany, where the Weimar Republic was the nationā€™s first attempt at representative government and never enjoyed great support among the people."


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10. ā€œAnalysis concludes Antifa provoked shooting of Ashli Babbitt at Capitol
'The ones who were agitating the crowd were not Trump supporters'

An analysis of videos of the death of Air Force veteran Ashli Babbitt at the U.S. Capitol indicates Antifa activists provoked the fatal gunshot from a police officer. Japanese investigator Misako Ganaha explained in a video interview with Epoch Times reporter Joshua Philipp on his ā€œCrossroadsā€ program that she analyzed two lengthy videos, affording two different angles of the incident near the House chamberā€¦. just prior to the shooting, two men who had been agitating the crowd broke the glass on a set of doors.

ā€¦ the same Marxist ā€œagitate and divideā€ tactics employed by leftists in her home countryā€¦. part of the tactic, she said, is for someone in collaboration with the agitators to serve as a ā€œwitnessā€ to mainstream media, which tells the story ā€œwithout analyzing.ā€ Media simply repeats what the witness says, explained Ganaha, ā€œso the world does not know the truth.ā€ Analysis concludes Antifa provoked shooting of Ashli Babbitt at Capitol

======================================================

11. ā€œBLM instigator of Capitol riots, John Earle Sullivan, arrested

The Utah Black Lives Matter "activist" has been bragging about his involvement in instigating the Capitol riots. Now, he's been arrested.


The deadly riots at the Capitol last week that have sparked Big Tech cancelations and prompted another impeachment of President Trump were instigated in part by Black Lives Matter and Antifa ā€œactivists,ā€ according to multiple media reports. One of the highest profile suspects, John Earle Sullivan from Utah, has been arrested.ā€

This story will be buried by mainstream media and suppressed by Big Tech. The arrest of John Earle Sullivan, a known Black Lives Matter leader and provocateur, belies the accepted narrative that Trump-supporters alone caused the riots.ā€ BLM instigator of Capitol riots, John Earle Sullivan, arrested

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12. ā€œDemocrats Cling Desperately to Trump Hatred
The Democrats are not going to be able to hide much longer behind their Trump hatred. But itā€™s really all theyā€™ve got.​

With nearly airtight totalitarian uniformity, the American media robotically repeat that there is no possible argument to be made that the 2020 presidential election produced an unjust result.

ā€¦Trump has been condemned for his remarks to hundreds of thousands of his supporters in Washington on January 6, and it is now a political commandment that he is responsible for the ensuing illegal forced entry and fatal violence at the United States Capitol.
He actually told his supporters that they should ā€œpeacefully and patriotically make your voices be heardā€ when they proceeded on to the Capitol;ā€¦


They have made Donald Trump the leader of all who object to government-restricted freedom of expression, corrupt election practices, and the transformation of America into a socialist commune. At the moment of Joe Bidenā€™s ultimate triumph, he and his ramshackle coalition of contending (and in some cases disreputable) interests are exposed in their ghastly infirmity. The totalitarian woke media will not be able to disguise this macabre farce for long.ā€ Democrats Cling Desperately to Trump Hatred - American Greatness
13. ā€œJames, brother of accused leftist provocateur John Sullivan, claims 226 Antifa members started Capitol riots
John Sullivan was arrested yesterday in connection with instigating the Capitol riots on January 6th. A video of him and CNN photojournalist Jade Sacker emerged this week that shows them giddy following the murder of Trump-supporter Ashli Babbitt. Now, Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani is wondering why a text message from James Sullivan was not revealed during the Presidentā€™s second impeachment hearings in Congress.

According to the text, James Sullivan makes a very bold claim: ā€œIā€™m currently working with the FBI to expose and place total blame on John and the 226 members of antifa that instigated the Capitol ā€˜riotā€™ I was able to get my agent out of trouble along with three other uthanā€™s.ā€

ā€¦every day brings more evidence that Antifa and other left-wing ā€œactivistsā€ incited the crowd to commit crimes. Videos of Antifa members secretly embedded with the Trump-supporters appear to reinforce these claims.

This all jibes with the credible conspiracy theory that Democrats or other interested parties planned this ā€œfalse flagā€ attack in order to push for impeachment.ā€ James, brother of accused leftist provocateur John Sullivan, claims 226 Antifa members started Capitol riots

======================================================

14. ā€œVerified twitter user Amuse breaks everything down in further detail in a series of tweets.

"To make this clear. CNN was embedded with BLM/Antifa pretending to be Trump supporters taping them incite a riot. This is freaking huge. If CNN is allowed to maintain its press access anywhere in DC there needs to be a serious overhaul of our entire system," he tweeted.

Here's another one, who showed up with furs, and also got himself arrested. According to the New York Post:

Aaron Mostofsky was busted Tuesday at his brotherā€™s house in Brooklyn by federal agents on multiple charges, including theft of government property for allegedly stealing a police riot shield and bulletproof vest, the source said.

Mostofsky, who is the son of Shlomo Mostofsky, a Supreme Court judge and a prominent figure in the Orthodox Jewish community, was photographed with both items.

Video circulating on Twitter following Mostofskyā€™s arrest shows FBI agents swarming the home and carting out what appeared to be the fur pelts and walking stick he had on him during the insurrection.

His politics? According to this report, registered Democrat.ā€



Rush to judgment on Trump? Multiple leftists arrested for Capitol riot

And Zero Hedge.

=============================================================================

I asked a very simple question. And made a very simple observation. Coming back with an essay doesn't make a point or answer questions. In fact, it's specifically designed to bury a point.

Your premise is that Democrats are emotional, not rational. (I don't agree but fine). I rebutted in 2 ways. By stating the fact that Democrats in the case of this impeachment would have been harmed and being completely dispassionate about it is hard. And by pointing out that EVERY prosecutor making a case in a court (something that impeachment is) uses emotion to humanize the consequences of harmful actions.



I corrected the premise of your post.


Say 'thank you.'
 
ā€¦rather than intellect and understanding, you vote for folks like Biden or Obama.
You call your candidate god, Jesus, and the messiah......as though you were a cult, a religion.
And you try to blame the other side for doing what you are guilty of doing.




1.It is not based on any intelligent, informed understandingā€¦..we know this because when asked

a. for Trump policies they voted against, or

b. Biden policies they voted forā€¦.

ā€¦.one is met with that deer-in-the-headlights look.

This is a very simple explanation, fitting, because these are very simple people.

They follow orders, and their emotions.



2. The sort with that ā€˜Trump Derangement Syndromeā€™ thing will neither have any compunction about repeating lies about the former President, nor even trying to support the liesā€¦..they simply repeat them.
Like this:
ā€œā€¦the right supports him and supports his dictatorial drive for power. They want a dictator as long it is their dictator.ā€ https://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/he-wants-to-be-americas-first-dictator.841760/

Can they support any such ā€œdictatorial drive for powerā€?

ā€œThey want a dictator.ā€

This, in reference to the side that stands for individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.
ā€œfree markets, free voices, free peopleā€

And from a side that is infamous for censorship, ā€˜hate speech,ā€™ and thought crimes....and violence.





3. One would conclude that their madness is based on imagining Trump as Julius Caesar.

"Caesar was now master of Rome and made himself consul and dictator. He used his power to carry out much-needed reform, relieving debt, enlarging the senate, building the Forum Iulium and revising the calendar. Dictatorship was always regarded a temporary position but in 44 BC, Caesar took it for life."
History - Julius Caesar - BBC

I, for one, would love to see them make that argumentā€¦..beyond simply claiming so.



4. If they could, wellā€¦.weā€™d be speaking of a Left with an intellectual ability that is clearly lacking in Democrat voters. Instead, we have control by the dumbest among usā€¦..or, as Chris Matthews, using biblical language to describe Messiah Obama coming to the MSNBC studios to do an interview with him, ā€œamongstā€ us.



5. But I would be happy to continue the analogy, and remind all that if Trump is Julius Caesar, then every Democrat voter is the back-stabber, Brutus.

You should re-title your thread : "When lies are all I have"

I searched your post with my SEM/EDX electron microscope in hope of finding any hint of intelligence or examples of any lies.

Alas, none of either!

Why is that?

It's the old addage, you can't see what you're not looking for. The truth isn't found with an electron microscope. The truth sits there right out in the open, easy to see. You're just using magnification to try and find some small hope of confirmation of your lunactic theories when every day, in every way, your great god Trump is being shown as a craven, power hunger, liar.


"... your great god Trump...."


Only the Left beatifies its candidates.....as you called Hussein god, Jesus and the messiah.

You're not calling him that any longer, as you became the laughing stock of the world.




ā€œDescribing Trump supporters as a cult has become a trope among his Democratic critics. Which seems ironic, considering how the very same crowd in the past four years tended to invest emotionally in whoever they hoped would end Trump's presidency. Special Counsel Robert Muller probably received the lion's share of the prayers, though figures like ex-FBI director James Comey or even Trump's fixer-turned-critic Michael Cohen basked in some limelight.

The Biden hagiography reached an ear-piercing pitch during the inauguration week. A CNN host saw a vision of the president-elect's arms embracing America in the lighting of the Lincoln memorial, while a New York Times editor confessed to experiencing chills upon Biden landing at Joint Base Andrews. One could be excused for seeing such accounts as quasi-religious.ā€ 'Government becomes God': Jacobin's satirical cover literally idolizing Biden strikes nerve


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So sorry.....we have already fulfilled our daily quota of simpletons and imbeciles......so we have no need of your services.
Donā€™t forget that Trump will forever be remembered as the president who took this country and invested $1 billion in rural broadband. I assume theyā€™ll put him on Mount Rushmore for that.


Effortlessly, you have become a human emetic.
 
ā€¦rather than intellect and understanding, you vote for folks like Biden or Obama.
You call your candidate god, Jesus, and the messiah......as though you were a cult, a religion.
And you try to blame the other side for doing what you are guilty of doing.




1.It is not based on any intelligent, informed understandingā€¦..we know this because when asked

a. for Trump policies they voted against, or

b. Biden policies they voted forā€¦.

ā€¦.one is met with that deer-in-the-headlights look.

This is a very simple explanation, fitting, because these are very simple people.

They follow orders, and their emotions.



2. The sort with that ā€˜Trump Derangement Syndromeā€™ thing will neither have any compunction about repeating lies about the former President, nor even trying to support the liesā€¦..they simply repeat them.
Like this:
ā€œā€¦the right supports him and supports his dictatorial drive for power. They want a dictator as long it is their dictator.ā€ https://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/he-wants-to-be-americas-first-dictator.841760/

Can they support any such ā€œdictatorial drive for powerā€?

ā€œThey want a dictator.ā€

This, in reference to the side that stands for individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.
ā€œfree markets, free voices, free peopleā€

And from a side that is infamous for censorship, ā€˜hate speech,ā€™ and thought crimes....and violence.





3. One would conclude that their madness is based on imagining Trump as Julius Caesar.

"Caesar was now master of Rome and made himself consul and dictator. He used his power to carry out much-needed reform, relieving debt, enlarging the senate, building the Forum Iulium and revising the calendar. Dictatorship was always regarded a temporary position but in 44 BC, Caesar took it for life."
History - Julius Caesar - BBC

I, for one, would love to see them make that argumentā€¦..beyond simply claiming so.



4. If they could, wellā€¦.weā€™d be speaking of a Left with an intellectual ability that is clearly lacking in Democrat voters. Instead, we have control by the dumbest among usā€¦..or, as Chris Matthews, using biblical language to describe Messiah Obama coming to the MSNBC studios to do an interview with him, ā€œamongstā€ us.



5. But I would be happy to continue the analogy, and remind all that if Trump is Julius Caesar, then every Democrat voter is the back-stabber, Brutus.
My question is simple. Why do you expect people who literally would have been injured or possibly have died if the people who breached the capitol would have gotten to them (I know this because well over a hundred law enforcement officers got injured trying to protect them) NOT react to that FACT with the emotion that that FACT deserves?

In any case, anywhere, at any time, a prosecution has used the emotion of the CONSEQUENCES of actions to drive home the need of punishing those responsible.



The people responsible for violence at the Capitol were Biden voters.




1.After witnessing a decade of Democrat authorized and inspired riots, how believable is it that the Right is responsible for the Capitol mayhem?





2. The Far Left relies on a dumbed down, history-challenged publicā€¦.thatā€™s the reason for government schooling. Remediation begins with terms like ā€˜agent provocateur,ā€™ and ā€˜false flag operation.ā€™ And nobody does it better than the Left.











3. ā€œThe Reichstag fire (German: Reichstagsbrand, listen (helpĀ·info)) was an arson attack on the Reichstag building, home of the German parliament in Berlin, on Monday 27 February 1933, precisely four weeks after Adolf Hitler was sworn in as Chancellor of Germany. The day after the fire, the Reichstag Fire Decree was passed. The Nazi Party used the fire as a pretext to claim that communists were plotting against the German government, which made the fire pivotal in the establishment of Nazi Germany.ā€ Reichstag fire - Wikipedia







4. ā€œHitler, however, insisted that the Communist Party, which was a considerable force within the Reichstag, had set the fire, and pressed German President Paul von Hindenburg to approve of an emergency law suspending civil liberties. Communist leaders, including the Communist members of the Reichstag, were hunted down and arrested.



Without their presence in the Reichstag, the National Socialists and their coalition partners had a majority. That enabled the Nazis to pass a further law, the Enabling Act, on March 23, 1933, giving Hitler dictatorial powers and removing any obstacle to his absolute supremacy.ā€ The Left Is Enjoying Its Reichstag Fire Moment







5. ā€˜Leftist Antifa Among Mob Storming US Capitolā€™



ā€“ Facial recognition experts and backers of American President Donald J. Trump said members of the hardline leftist Antifa movement infiltrated protestors who stormed the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday.



Several witnesses and reports monitored by Worthy News suggested radical leftist vandals broke into the building housing the U.S. Congress while most Trump supporters were loud but peaceful.ā€ https://www.worthynews.com/55452-leftist-antifa-among-mob-storming-us-capitol







There is no disputing that the Democrats have had far more practice at riots than the Right.

Biden voters are well practiced.

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6. Did you find stories in the media excoriating the dozens of anti-America riots by Biden voters?



Here they are in June, attacking the White Houseā€¦.practicing for the Capitol.







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7. ā€œNo one can point to any statement from President Trump calling upon his supporters to storm the Capitol, much less to stage a coup against the U.S. government, but it doesnā€™t matter anymore. The establishment media and the social media giants are insisting that he incited the attack on the Capitol and was trying to install himself as a dictator by means of a guy with a buffalo horn hat and some other dopes and wingnuts, and if you donā€™t believe it, youā€™re a racist, bigoted, MAGA-hat-wearing fascist who deserves to be silenced along with the president, and soon will be. But itā€™s clear who the real fascists are, and they are exploiting their Reichstag Fire moment to the fullest.ā€ The Left Is Enjoying Its Reichstag Fire Moment







The NYTimes provided proof that it wasn't Trump supporters:



ā€œAbout 20 minutes before Trumpā€™s speech ends, some people in the Capitol crowd harass officers posted at the barricades and start to get physical. Others follow suit, until they violently overwhelm the police and breach the buildingā€™s outer perimeter.ā€ How a Presidential Rally Turned Into a Capitol Rampage


Two facts that the past several years have established:



  • Nothing the media claims turns out to be true.
  • There could hardly be better instigators of violence, than those Biden voters who have been well practiced in ā€˜the art.ā€™
With those facts in mind......who was responsible for the Capitol violence?

8. ā€œVideo Reveals Trump Supporters Tried to Stop the Violence
Violence by Antifa on the south side where Trump supporters were told to March to. Supporters stopped the breakage but he started again later. MSM keeps saying itā€™s Trump http://supporters.itā€™s not.








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9. 9. "The National Socialists used the Reichstag fire to destroy all political opposition in Germany and assert total control over the lives of every German citizen. They used it to give themselves official, pseudo-legal permission to break every moral law and ethical code ever known to mankind, and ultimately to murder tens of millions of people, including six million Jews (the particular target of their hatred), and lay waste to the entire European continent.



The American Left of today has followed the Nazisā€™ Reichstag Fire playbook to a T thus far. What is to prevent them from attempting to implement the whole thing? The one thing saving us from woke totalitarianism at this point may be the fact that the sinister authoritarians of the Democratic Party, the social media corporations, and the establishment media may already have overreached. America in 2020, even after fifty years of woke indoctrination in our schools, is not like Germany of 1933. We have a strong tradition of freedom, notably the freedom of speech. In attempting to impose their totalitarian woke straitjacket upon the American people, the Left is going to encounter considerably more opposition than the Nazis did in Germany, where the Weimar Republic was the nationā€™s first attempt at representative government and never enjoyed great support among the people."


=====================================================

10. ā€œAnalysis concludes Antifa provoked shooting of Ashli Babbitt at Capitol
'The ones who were agitating the crowd were not Trump supporters'

An analysis of videos of the death of Air Force veteran Ashli Babbitt at the U.S. Capitol indicates Antifa activists provoked the fatal gunshot from a police officer. Japanese investigator Misako Ganaha explained in a video interview with Epoch Times reporter Joshua Philipp on his ā€œCrossroadsā€ program that she analyzed two lengthy videos, affording two different angles of the incident near the House chamberā€¦. just prior to the shooting, two men who had been agitating the crowd broke the glass on a set of doors.

ā€¦ the same Marxist ā€œagitate and divideā€ tactics employed by leftists in her home countryā€¦. part of the tactic, she said, is for someone in collaboration with the agitators to serve as a ā€œwitnessā€ to mainstream media, which tells the story ā€œwithout analyzing.ā€ Media simply repeats what the witness says, explained Ganaha, ā€œso the world does not know the truth.ā€ Analysis concludes Antifa provoked shooting of Ashli Babbitt at Capitol

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11. ā€œBLM instigator of Capitol riots, John Earle Sullivan, arrested

The Utah Black Lives Matter "activist" has been bragging about his involvement in instigating the Capitol riots. Now, he's been arrested.


The deadly riots at the Capitol last week that have sparked Big Tech cancelations and prompted another impeachment of President Trump were instigated in part by Black Lives Matter and Antifa ā€œactivists,ā€ according to multiple media reports. One of the highest profile suspects, John Earle Sullivan from Utah, has been arrested.ā€

This story will be buried by mainstream media and suppressed by Big Tech. The arrest of John Earle Sullivan, a known Black Lives Matter leader and provocateur, belies the accepted narrative that Trump-supporters alone caused the riots.ā€ BLM instigator of Capitol riots, John Earle Sullivan, arrested

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12. ā€œDemocrats Cling Desperately to Trump Hatred
The Democrats are not going to be able to hide much longer behind their Trump hatred. But itā€™s really all theyā€™ve got.​

With nearly airtight totalitarian uniformity, the American media robotically repeat that there is no possible argument to be made that the 2020 presidential election produced an unjust result.

ā€¦Trump has been condemned for his remarks to hundreds of thousands of his supporters in Washington on January 6, and it is now a political commandment that he is responsible for the ensuing illegal forced entry and fatal violence at the United States Capitol.
He actually told his supporters that they should ā€œpeacefully and patriotically make your voices be heardā€ when they proceeded on to the Capitol;ā€¦


They have made Donald Trump the leader of all who object to government-restricted freedom of expression, corrupt election practices, and the transformation of America into a socialist commune. At the moment of Joe Bidenā€™s ultimate triumph, he and his ramshackle coalition of contending (and in some cases disreputable) interests are exposed in their ghastly infirmity. The totalitarian woke media will not be able to disguise this macabre farce for long.ā€ Democrats Cling Desperately to Trump Hatred - American Greatness
13. ā€œJames, brother of accused leftist provocateur John Sullivan, claims 226 Antifa members started Capitol riots
John Sullivan was arrested yesterday in connection with instigating the Capitol riots on January 6th. A video of him and CNN photojournalist Jade Sacker emerged this week that shows them giddy following the murder of Trump-supporter Ashli Babbitt. Now, Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani is wondering why a text message from James Sullivan was not revealed during the Presidentā€™s second impeachment hearings in Congress.

According to the text, James Sullivan makes a very bold claim: ā€œIā€™m currently working with the FBI to expose and place total blame on John and the 226 members of antifa that instigated the Capitol ā€˜riotā€™ I was able to get my agent out of trouble along with three other uthanā€™s.ā€

ā€¦every day brings more evidence that Antifa and other left-wing ā€œactivistsā€ incited the crowd to commit crimes. Videos of Antifa members secretly embedded with the Trump-supporters appear to reinforce these claims.

This all jibes with the credible conspiracy theory that Democrats or other interested parties planned this ā€œfalse flagā€ attack in order to push for impeachment.ā€ James, brother of accused leftist provocateur John Sullivan, claims 226 Antifa members started Capitol riots

======================================================

14. ā€œVerified twitter user Amuse breaks everything down in further detail in a series of tweets.

"To make this clear. CNN was embedded with BLM/Antifa pretending to be Trump supporters taping them incite a riot. This is freaking huge. If CNN is allowed to maintain its press access anywhere in DC there needs to be a serious overhaul of our entire system," he tweeted.

Here's another one, who showed up with furs, and also got himself arrested. According to the New York Post:

Aaron Mostofsky was busted Tuesday at his brotherā€™s house in Brooklyn by federal agents on multiple charges, including theft of government property for allegedly stealing a police riot shield and bulletproof vest, the source said.

Mostofsky, who is the son of Shlomo Mostofsky, a Supreme Court judge and a prominent figure in the Orthodox Jewish community, was photographed with both items.

Video circulating on Twitter following Mostofskyā€™s arrest shows FBI agents swarming the home and carting out what appeared to be the fur pelts and walking stick he had on him during the insurrection.

His politics? According to this report, registered Democrat.ā€



Rush to judgment on Trump? Multiple leftists arrested for Capitol riot

And Zero Hedge.

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I asked a very simple question. And made a very simple observation. Coming back with an essay doesn't make a point or answer questions. In fact, it's specifically designed to bury a point.

Your premise is that Democrats are emotional, not rational. (I don't agree but fine). I rebutted in 2 ways. By stating the fact that Democrats in the case of this impeachment would have been harmed and being completely dispassionate about it is hard. And by pointing out that EVERY prosecutor making a case in a court (something that impeachment is) uses emotion to humanize the consequences of harmful actions.



I corrected the premise of your post.


Say 'thank you.'

You didn't correct the premise of my post, you undermined your own.

The people responsible for violence at the Capitol were Biden voters.
To state that about people going to a rally supporting stopping the certification of the election, making Joe Biden the president, and after that going to the capitol to try to do exactly that is not based on rational thinking . And therefore you stating that Democrats are the ones being led by emotion is equally fallacious.
 
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ā€¦rather than intellect and understanding, you vote for folks like Biden or Obama.
You call your candidate god, Jesus, and the messiah......as though you were a cult, a religion.
And you try to blame the other side for doing what you are guilty of doing.




1.It is not based on any intelligent, informed understandingā€¦..we know this because when asked

a. for Trump policies they voted against, or

b. Biden policies they voted forā€¦.

ā€¦.one is met with that deer-in-the-headlights look.

This is a very simple explanation, fitting, because these are very simple people.

They follow orders, and their emotions.



2. The sort with that ā€˜Trump Derangement Syndromeā€™ thing will neither have any compunction about repeating lies about the former President, nor even trying to support the liesā€¦..they simply repeat them.
Like this:
ā€œā€¦the right supports him and supports his dictatorial drive for power. They want a dictator as long it is their dictator.ā€ https://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/he-wants-to-be-americas-first-dictator.841760/

Can they support any such ā€œdictatorial drive for powerā€?

ā€œThey want a dictator.ā€

This, in reference to the side that stands for individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.
ā€œfree markets, free voices, free peopleā€

And from a side that is infamous for censorship, ā€˜hate speech,ā€™ and thought crimes....and violence.





3. One would conclude that their madness is based on imagining Trump as Julius Caesar.

"Caesar was now master of Rome and made himself consul and dictator. He used his power to carry out much-needed reform, relieving debt, enlarging the senate, building the Forum Iulium and revising the calendar. Dictatorship was always regarded a temporary position but in 44 BC, Caesar took it for life."
History - Julius Caesar - BBC

I, for one, would love to see them make that argumentā€¦..beyond simply claiming so.



4. If they could, wellā€¦.weā€™d be speaking of a Left with an intellectual ability that is clearly lacking in Democrat voters. Instead, we have control by the dumbest among usā€¦..or, as Chris Matthews, using biblical language to describe Messiah Obama coming to the MSNBC studios to do an interview with him, ā€œamongstā€ us.



5. But I would be happy to continue the analogy, and remind all that if Trump is Julius Caesar, then every Democrat voter is the back-stabber, Brutus.
My question is simple. Why do you expect people who literally would have been injured or possibly have died if the people who breached the capitol would have gotten to them (I know this because well over a hundred law enforcement officers got injured trying to protect them) NOT react to that FACT with the emotion that that FACT deserves?

In any case, anywhere, at any time, a prosecution has used the emotion of the CONSEQUENCES of actions to drive home the need of punishing those responsible.



The people responsible for violence at the Capitol were Biden voters.




1.After witnessing a decade of Democrat authorized and inspired riots, how believable is it that the Right is responsible for the Capitol mayhem?





2. The Far Left relies on a dumbed down, history-challenged publicā€¦.thatā€™s the reason for government schooling. Remediation begins with terms like ā€˜agent provocateur,ā€™ and ā€˜false flag operation.ā€™ And nobody does it better than the Left.











3. ā€œThe Reichstag fire (German: Reichstagsbrand, listen (helpĀ·info)) was an arson attack on the Reichstag building, home of the German parliament in Berlin, on Monday 27 February 1933, precisely four weeks after Adolf Hitler was sworn in as Chancellor of Germany. The day after the fire, the Reichstag Fire Decree was passed. The Nazi Party used the fire as a pretext to claim that communists were plotting against the German government, which made the fire pivotal in the establishment of Nazi Germany.ā€ Reichstag fire - Wikipedia







4. ā€œHitler, however, insisted that the Communist Party, which was a considerable force within the Reichstag, had set the fire, and pressed German President Paul von Hindenburg to approve of an emergency law suspending civil liberties. Communist leaders, including the Communist members of the Reichstag, were hunted down and arrested.



Without their presence in the Reichstag, the National Socialists and their coalition partners had a majority. That enabled the Nazis to pass a further law, the Enabling Act, on March 23, 1933, giving Hitler dictatorial powers and removing any obstacle to his absolute supremacy.ā€ The Left Is Enjoying Its Reichstag Fire Moment







5. ā€˜Leftist Antifa Among Mob Storming US Capitolā€™



ā€“ Facial recognition experts and backers of American President Donald J. Trump said members of the hardline leftist Antifa movement infiltrated protestors who stormed the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday.



Several witnesses and reports monitored by Worthy News suggested radical leftist vandals broke into the building housing the U.S. Congress while most Trump supporters were loud but peaceful.ā€ https://www.worthynews.com/55452-leftist-antifa-among-mob-storming-us-capitol







There is no disputing that the Democrats have had far more practice at riots than the Right.

Biden voters are well practiced.

===================================

6. Did you find stories in the media excoriating the dozens of anti-America riots by Biden voters?



Here they are in June, attacking the White Houseā€¦.practicing for the Capitol.







========================================================

7. ā€œNo one can point to any statement from President Trump calling upon his supporters to storm the Capitol, much less to stage a coup against the U.S. government, but it doesnā€™t matter anymore. The establishment media and the social media giants are insisting that he incited the attack on the Capitol and was trying to install himself as a dictator by means of a guy with a buffalo horn hat and some other dopes and wingnuts, and if you donā€™t believe it, youā€™re a racist, bigoted, MAGA-hat-wearing fascist who deserves to be silenced along with the president, and soon will be. But itā€™s clear who the real fascists are, and they are exploiting their Reichstag Fire moment to the fullest.ā€ The Left Is Enjoying Its Reichstag Fire Moment







The NYTimes provided proof that it wasn't Trump supporters:



ā€œAbout 20 minutes before Trumpā€™s speech ends, some people in the Capitol crowd harass officers posted at the barricades and start to get physical. Others follow suit, until they violently overwhelm the police and breach the buildingā€™s outer perimeter.ā€ How a Presidential Rally Turned Into a Capitol Rampage


Two facts that the past several years have established:



  • Nothing the media claims turns out to be true.
  • There could hardly be better instigators of violence, than those Biden voters who have been well practiced in ā€˜the art.ā€™
With those facts in mind......who was responsible for the Capitol violence?

8. ā€œVideo Reveals Trump Supporters Tried to Stop the Violence
Violence by Antifa on the south side where Trump supporters were told to March to. Supporters stopped the breakage but he started again later. MSM keeps saying itā€™s Trump http://supporters.itā€™s not.








=========================================================

9. 9. "The National Socialists used the Reichstag fire to destroy all political opposition in Germany and assert total control over the lives of every German citizen. They used it to give themselves official, pseudo-legal permission to break every moral law and ethical code ever known to mankind, and ultimately to murder tens of millions of people, including six million Jews (the particular target of their hatred), and lay waste to the entire European continent.



The American Left of today has followed the Nazisā€™ Reichstag Fire playbook to a T thus far. What is to prevent them from attempting to implement the whole thing? The one thing saving us from woke totalitarianism at this point may be the fact that the sinister authoritarians of the Democratic Party, the social media corporations, and the establishment media may already have overreached. America in 2020, even after fifty years of woke indoctrination in our schools, is not like Germany of 1933. We have a strong tradition of freedom, notably the freedom of speech. In attempting to impose their totalitarian woke straitjacket upon the American people, the Left is going to encounter considerably more opposition than the Nazis did in Germany, where the Weimar Republic was the nationā€™s first attempt at representative government and never enjoyed great support among the people."


=====================================================

10. ā€œAnalysis concludes Antifa provoked shooting of Ashli Babbitt at Capitol
'The ones who were agitating the crowd were not Trump supporters'

An analysis of videos of the death of Air Force veteran Ashli Babbitt at the U.S. Capitol indicates Antifa activists provoked the fatal gunshot from a police officer. Japanese investigator Misako Ganaha explained in a video interview with Epoch Times reporter Joshua Philipp on his ā€œCrossroadsā€ program that she analyzed two lengthy videos, affording two different angles of the incident near the House chamberā€¦. just prior to the shooting, two men who had been agitating the crowd broke the glass on a set of doors.

ā€¦ the same Marxist ā€œagitate and divideā€ tactics employed by leftists in her home countryā€¦. part of the tactic, she said, is for someone in collaboration with the agitators to serve as a ā€œwitnessā€ to mainstream media, which tells the story ā€œwithout analyzing.ā€ Media simply repeats what the witness says, explained Ganaha, ā€œso the world does not know the truth.ā€ Analysis concludes Antifa provoked shooting of Ashli Babbitt at Capitol

======================================================

11. ā€œBLM instigator of Capitol riots, John Earle Sullivan, arrested

The Utah Black Lives Matter "activist" has been bragging about his involvement in instigating the Capitol riots. Now, he's been arrested.


The deadly riots at the Capitol last week that have sparked Big Tech cancelations and prompted another impeachment of President Trump were instigated in part by Black Lives Matter and Antifa ā€œactivists,ā€ according to multiple media reports. One of the highest profile suspects, John Earle Sullivan from Utah, has been arrested.ā€

This story will be buried by mainstream media and suppressed by Big Tech. The arrest of John Earle Sullivan, a known Black Lives Matter leader and provocateur, belies the accepted narrative that Trump-supporters alone caused the riots.ā€ BLM instigator of Capitol riots, John Earle Sullivan, arrested

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12. ā€œDemocrats Cling Desperately to Trump Hatred
The Democrats are not going to be able to hide much longer behind their Trump hatred. But itā€™s really all theyā€™ve got.​

With nearly airtight totalitarian uniformity, the American media robotically repeat that there is no possible argument to be made that the 2020 presidential election produced an unjust result.

ā€¦Trump has been condemned for his remarks to hundreds of thousands of his supporters in Washington on January 6, and it is now a political commandment that he is responsible for the ensuing illegal forced entry and fatal violence at the United States Capitol.
He actually told his supporters that they should ā€œpeacefully and patriotically make your voices be heardā€ when they proceeded on to the Capitol;ā€¦


They have made Donald Trump the leader of all who object to government-restricted freedom of expression, corrupt election practices, and the transformation of America into a socialist commune. At the moment of Joe Bidenā€™s ultimate triumph, he and his ramshackle coalition of contending (and in some cases disreputable) interests are exposed in their ghastly infirmity. The totalitarian woke media will not be able to disguise this macabre farce for long.ā€ Democrats Cling Desperately to Trump Hatred - American Greatness
13. ā€œJames, brother of accused leftist provocateur John Sullivan, claims 226 Antifa members started Capitol riots
John Sullivan was arrested yesterday in connection with instigating the Capitol riots on January 6th. A video of him and CNN photojournalist Jade Sacker emerged this week that shows them giddy following the murder of Trump-supporter Ashli Babbitt. Now, Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani is wondering why a text message from James Sullivan was not revealed during the Presidentā€™s second impeachment hearings in Congress.

According to the text, James Sullivan makes a very bold claim: ā€œIā€™m currently working with the FBI to expose and place total blame on John and the 226 members of antifa that instigated the Capitol ā€˜riotā€™ I was able to get my agent out of trouble along with three other uthanā€™s.ā€

ā€¦every day brings more evidence that Antifa and other left-wing ā€œactivistsā€ incited the crowd to commit crimes. Videos of Antifa members secretly embedded with the Trump-supporters appear to reinforce these claims.

This all jibes with the credible conspiracy theory that Democrats or other interested parties planned this ā€œfalse flagā€ attack in order to push for impeachment.ā€ James, brother of accused leftist provocateur John Sullivan, claims 226 Antifa members started Capitol riots

======================================================

14. ā€œVerified twitter user Amuse breaks everything down in further detail in a series of tweets.

"To make this clear. CNN was embedded with BLM/Antifa pretending to be Trump supporters taping them incite a riot. This is freaking huge. If CNN is allowed to maintain its press access anywhere in DC there needs to be a serious overhaul of our entire system," he tweeted.

Here's another one, who showed up with furs, and also got himself arrested. According to the New York Post:

Aaron Mostofsky was busted Tuesday at his brotherā€™s house in Brooklyn by federal agents on multiple charges, including theft of government property for allegedly stealing a police riot shield and bulletproof vest, the source said.

Mostofsky, who is the son of Shlomo Mostofsky, a Supreme Court judge and a prominent figure in the Orthodox Jewish community, was photographed with both items.

Video circulating on Twitter following Mostofskyā€™s arrest shows FBI agents swarming the home and carting out what appeared to be the fur pelts and walking stick he had on him during the insurrection.

His politics? According to this report, registered Democrat.ā€



Rush to judgment on Trump? Multiple leftists arrested for Capitol riot

And Zero Hedge.

=============================================================================

I asked a very simple question. And made a very simple observation. Coming back with an essay doesn't make a point or answer questions. In fact, it's specifically designed to bury a point.

Your premise is that Democrats are emotional, not rational. (I don't agree but fine). I rebutted in 2 ways. By stating the fact that Democrats in the case of this impeachment would have been harmed and being completely dispassionate about it is hard. And by pointing out that EVERY prosecutor making a case in a court (something that impeachment is) uses emotion to humanize the consequences of harmful actions.



I corrected the premise of your post.


Say 'thank you.'

You didn't correct the premise of my post, you undermined your own.

The people responsible for violence at the Capitol were Biden voters.
To state that about people going to a rally supporting stopping the certification of the election, making Joe Biden the president, and after that going to the capitol to try to do exactly that is not based on rational thinking . And therefore you stating that Democrats are the ones being led by emotion is equally fallacious.



You just proved you're a fool and a liar.
 
Effortlessly, you have become a human emetic.
I hope they put that on his tombstone.

Here lies Trump. Bringer of broadband to numerous rural communities. By their fruits you shall know them.


Trump did more for America and Americans than any of your previous or present candidates.


Glad that hurts.


I hope you don't mind me laughing at you. I mean, be fair....everyone else does it.
 
ā€¦rather than intellect and understanding, you vote for folks like Biden or Obama.
You call your candidate god, Jesus, and the messiah......as though you were a cult, a religion.
And you try to blame the other side for doing what you are guilty of doing.




1.It is not based on any intelligent, informed understandingā€¦..we know this because when asked

a. for Trump policies they voted against, or

b. Biden policies they voted forā€¦.

ā€¦.one is met with that deer-in-the-headlights look.

This is a very simple explanation, fitting, because these are very simple people.

They follow orders, and their emotions.



2. The sort with that ā€˜Trump Derangement Syndromeā€™ thing will neither have any compunction about repeating lies about the former President, nor even trying to support the liesā€¦..they simply repeat them.
Like this:
ā€œā€¦the right supports him and supports his dictatorial drive for power. They want a dictator as long it is their dictator.ā€ https://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/he-wants-to-be-americas-first-dictator.841760/

Can they support any such ā€œdictatorial drive for powerā€?

ā€œThey want a dictator.ā€

This, in reference to the side that stands for individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.
ā€œfree markets, free voices, free peopleā€

And from a side that is infamous for censorship, ā€˜hate speech,ā€™ and thought crimes....and violence.





3. One would conclude that their madness is based on imagining Trump as Julius Caesar.

"Caesar was now master of Rome and made himself consul and dictator. He used his power to carry out much-needed reform, relieving debt, enlarging the senate, building the Forum Iulium and revising the calendar. Dictatorship was always regarded a temporary position but in 44 BC, Caesar took it for life."
History - Julius Caesar - BBC

I, for one, would love to see them make that argumentā€¦..beyond simply claiming so.



4. If they could, wellā€¦.weā€™d be speaking of a Left with an intellectual ability that is clearly lacking in Democrat voters. Instead, we have control by the dumbest among usā€¦..or, as Chris Matthews, using biblical language to describe Messiah Obama coming to the MSNBC studios to do an interview with him, ā€œamongstā€ us.



5. But I would be happy to continue the analogy, and remind all that if Trump is Julius Caesar, then every Democrat voter is the back-stabber, Brutus.
My question is simple. Why do you expect people who literally would have been injured or possibly have died if the people who breached the capitol would have gotten to them (I know this because well over a hundred law enforcement officers got injured trying to protect them) NOT react to that FACT with the emotion that that FACT deserves?

In any case, anywhere, at any time, a prosecution has used the emotion of the CONSEQUENCES of actions to drive home the need of punishing those responsible.



The people responsible for violence at the Capitol were Biden voters.




1.After witnessing a decade of Democrat authorized and inspired riots, how believable is it that the Right is responsible for the Capitol mayhem?





2. The Far Left relies on a dumbed down, history-challenged publicā€¦.thatā€™s the reason for government schooling. Remediation begins with terms like ā€˜agent provocateur,ā€™ and ā€˜false flag operation.ā€™ And nobody does it better than the Left.











3. ā€œThe Reichstag fire (German: Reichstagsbrand, listen (helpĀ·info)) was an arson attack on the Reichstag building, home of the German parliament in Berlin, on Monday 27 February 1933, precisely four weeks after Adolf Hitler was sworn in as Chancellor of Germany. The day after the fire, the Reichstag Fire Decree was passed. The Nazi Party used the fire as a pretext to claim that communists were plotting against the German government, which made the fire pivotal in the establishment of Nazi Germany.ā€ Reichstag fire - Wikipedia







4. ā€œHitler, however, insisted that the Communist Party, which was a considerable force within the Reichstag, had set the fire, and pressed German President Paul von Hindenburg to approve of an emergency law suspending civil liberties. Communist leaders, including the Communist members of the Reichstag, were hunted down and arrested.



Without their presence in the Reichstag, the National Socialists and their coalition partners had a majority. That enabled the Nazis to pass a further law, the Enabling Act, on March 23, 1933, giving Hitler dictatorial powers and removing any obstacle to his absolute supremacy.ā€ The Left Is Enjoying Its Reichstag Fire Moment







5. ā€˜Leftist Antifa Among Mob Storming US Capitolā€™



ā€“ Facial recognition experts and backers of American President Donald J. Trump said members of the hardline leftist Antifa movement infiltrated protestors who stormed the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday.



Several witnesses and reports monitored by Worthy News suggested radical leftist vandals broke into the building housing the U.S. Congress while most Trump supporters were loud but peaceful.ā€ https://www.worthynews.com/55452-leftist-antifa-among-mob-storming-us-capitol







There is no disputing that the Democrats have had far more practice at riots than the Right.

Biden voters are well practiced.

===================================

6. Did you find stories in the media excoriating the dozens of anti-America riots by Biden voters?



Here they are in June, attacking the White Houseā€¦.practicing for the Capitol.







========================================================

7. ā€œNo one can point to any statement from President Trump calling upon his supporters to storm the Capitol, much less to stage a coup against the U.S. government, but it doesnā€™t matter anymore. The establishment media and the social media giants are insisting that he incited the attack on the Capitol and was trying to install himself as a dictator by means of a guy with a buffalo horn hat and some other dopes and wingnuts, and if you donā€™t believe it, youā€™re a racist, bigoted, MAGA-hat-wearing fascist who deserves to be silenced along with the president, and soon will be. But itā€™s clear who the real fascists are, and they are exploiting their Reichstag Fire moment to the fullest.ā€ The Left Is Enjoying Its Reichstag Fire Moment







The NYTimes provided proof that it wasn't Trump supporters:



ā€œAbout 20 minutes before Trumpā€™s speech ends, some people in the Capitol crowd harass officers posted at the barricades and start to get physical. Others follow suit, until they violently overwhelm the police and breach the buildingā€™s outer perimeter.ā€ How a Presidential Rally Turned Into a Capitol Rampage


Two facts that the past several years have established:



  • Nothing the media claims turns out to be true.
  • There could hardly be better instigators of violence, than those Biden voters who have been well practiced in ā€˜the art.ā€™
With those facts in mind......who was responsible for the Capitol violence?

8. ā€œVideo Reveals Trump Supporters Tried to Stop the Violence
Violence by Antifa on the south side where Trump supporters were told to March to. Supporters stopped the breakage but he started again later. MSM keeps saying itā€™s Trump http://supporters.itā€™s not.








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9. 9. "The National Socialists used the Reichstag fire to destroy all political opposition in Germany and assert total control over the lives of every German citizen. They used it to give themselves official, pseudo-legal permission to break every moral law and ethical code ever known to mankind, and ultimately to murder tens of millions of people, including six million Jews (the particular target of their hatred), and lay waste to the entire European continent.



The American Left of today has followed the Nazisā€™ Reichstag Fire playbook to a T thus far. What is to prevent them from attempting to implement the whole thing? The one thing saving us from woke totalitarianism at this point may be the fact that the sinister authoritarians of the Democratic Party, the social media corporations, and the establishment media may already have overreached. America in 2020, even after fifty years of woke indoctrination in our schools, is not like Germany of 1933. We have a strong tradition of freedom, notably the freedom of speech. In attempting to impose their totalitarian woke straitjacket upon the American people, the Left is going to encounter considerably more opposition than the Nazis did in Germany, where the Weimar Republic was the nationā€™s first attempt at representative government and never enjoyed great support among the people."


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10. ā€œAnalysis concludes Antifa provoked shooting of Ashli Babbitt at Capitol
'The ones who were agitating the crowd were not Trump supporters'

An analysis of videos of the death of Air Force veteran Ashli Babbitt at the U.S. Capitol indicates Antifa activists provoked the fatal gunshot from a police officer. Japanese investigator Misako Ganaha explained in a video interview with Epoch Times reporter Joshua Philipp on his ā€œCrossroadsā€ program that she analyzed two lengthy videos, affording two different angles of the incident near the House chamberā€¦. just prior to the shooting, two men who had been agitating the crowd broke the glass on a set of doors.

ā€¦ the same Marxist ā€œagitate and divideā€ tactics employed by leftists in her home countryā€¦. part of the tactic, she said, is for someone in collaboration with the agitators to serve as a ā€œwitnessā€ to mainstream media, which tells the story ā€œwithout analyzing.ā€ Media simply repeats what the witness says, explained Ganaha, ā€œso the world does not know the truth.ā€ Analysis concludes Antifa provoked shooting of Ashli Babbitt at Capitol

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11. ā€œBLM instigator of Capitol riots, John Earle Sullivan, arrested

The Utah Black Lives Matter "activist" has been bragging about his involvement in instigating the Capitol riots. Now, he's been arrested.


The deadly riots at the Capitol last week that have sparked Big Tech cancelations and prompted another impeachment of President Trump were instigated in part by Black Lives Matter and Antifa ā€œactivists,ā€ according to multiple media reports. One of the highest profile suspects, John Earle Sullivan from Utah, has been arrested.ā€

This story will be buried by mainstream media and suppressed by Big Tech. The arrest of John Earle Sullivan, a known Black Lives Matter leader and provocateur, belies the accepted narrative that Trump-supporters alone caused the riots.ā€ BLM instigator of Capitol riots, John Earle Sullivan, arrested

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12. ā€œDemocrats Cling Desperately to Trump Hatred
The Democrats are not going to be able to hide much longer behind their Trump hatred. But itā€™s really all theyā€™ve got.​

With nearly airtight totalitarian uniformity, the American media robotically repeat that there is no possible argument to be made that the 2020 presidential election produced an unjust result.

ā€¦Trump has been condemned for his remarks to hundreds of thousands of his supporters in Washington on January 6, and it is now a political commandment that he is responsible for the ensuing illegal forced entry and fatal violence at the United States Capitol.
He actually told his supporters that they should ā€œpeacefully and patriotically make your voices be heardā€ when they proceeded on to the Capitol;ā€¦


They have made Donald Trump the leader of all who object to government-restricted freedom of expression, corrupt election practices, and the transformation of America into a socialist commune. At the moment of Joe Bidenā€™s ultimate triumph, he and his ramshackle coalition of contending (and in some cases disreputable) interests are exposed in their ghastly infirmity. The totalitarian woke media will not be able to disguise this macabre farce for long.ā€ Democrats Cling Desperately to Trump Hatred - American Greatness
13. ā€œJames, brother of accused leftist provocateur John Sullivan, claims 226 Antifa members started Capitol riots
John Sullivan was arrested yesterday in connection with instigating the Capitol riots on January 6th. A video of him and CNN photojournalist Jade Sacker emerged this week that shows them giddy following the murder of Trump-supporter Ashli Babbitt. Now, Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani is wondering why a text message from James Sullivan was not revealed during the Presidentā€™s second impeachment hearings in Congress.

According to the text, James Sullivan makes a very bold claim: ā€œIā€™m currently working with the FBI to expose and place total blame on John and the 226 members of antifa that instigated the Capitol ā€˜riotā€™ I was able to get my agent out of trouble along with three other uthanā€™s.ā€

ā€¦every day brings more evidence that Antifa and other left-wing ā€œactivistsā€ incited the crowd to commit crimes. Videos of Antifa members secretly embedded with the Trump-supporters appear to reinforce these claims.

This all jibes with the credible conspiracy theory that Democrats or other interested parties planned this ā€œfalse flagā€ attack in order to push for impeachment.ā€ James, brother of accused leftist provocateur John Sullivan, claims 226 Antifa members started Capitol riots

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14. ā€œVerified twitter user Amuse breaks everything down in further detail in a series of tweets.

"To make this clear. CNN was embedded with BLM/Antifa pretending to be Trump supporters taping them incite a riot. This is freaking huge. If CNN is allowed to maintain its press access anywhere in DC there needs to be a serious overhaul of our entire system," he tweeted.

Here's another one, who showed up with furs, and also got himself arrested. According to the New York Post:

Aaron Mostofsky was busted Tuesday at his brotherā€™s house in Brooklyn by federal agents on multiple charges, including theft of government property for allegedly stealing a police riot shield and bulletproof vest, the source said.

Mostofsky, who is the son of Shlomo Mostofsky, a Supreme Court judge and a prominent figure in the Orthodox Jewish community, was photographed with both items.

Video circulating on Twitter following Mostofskyā€™s arrest shows FBI agents swarming the home and carting out what appeared to be the fur pelts and walking stick he had on him during the insurrection.

His politics? According to this report, registered Democrat.ā€



Rush to judgment on Trump? Multiple leftists arrested for Capitol riot

And Zero Hedge.

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I asked a very simple question. And made a very simple observation. Coming back with an essay doesn't make a point or answer questions. In fact, it's specifically designed to bury a point.

Your premise is that Democrats are emotional, not rational. (I don't agree but fine). I rebutted in 2 ways. By stating the fact that Democrats in the case of this impeachment would have been harmed and being completely dispassionate about it is hard. And by pointing out that EVERY prosecutor making a case in a court (something that impeachment is) uses emotion to humanize the consequences of harmful actions.



I corrected the premise of your post.


Say 'thank you.'

You didn't correct the premise of my post, you undermined your own.

The people responsible for violence at the Capitol were Biden voters.
To state that about people going to a rally supporting stopping the certification of the election, making Joe Biden the president, and after that going to the capitol to try to do exactly that is not based on rational thinking . And therefore you stating that Democrats are the ones being led by emotion is equally fallacious.



You just proved you're a fool and a liar.

Coming from you that statement doesn't have the exact tone you might expect. In fact, being called a fool and a liar by someone who seems to actually believes the capitol riots were a false flag operation and who seems to start about 5 lengthy meandering posts a day about how Democrats are commies and nazi's and whatever else you do to get your rocks off and now decry using emotions to make a point is kind of a badge of honor.
 

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