When did 'liberals' stop believing in free speech?

[Maryland Patriot]

This is exactly what happens when 'liberals' get to decide what can be said about anything. These people are doing a radio talk show and they give advice. The shows are fun and informative but all of sudeen 'liberals' have decided they are not official experts or qualified to give advice thus they shouldn't give any at all. This would mean that anyone, your mother, your father, the guy down the street, and anyone can't speak freely about what you should be doing with your life even if you ask them.

The worst part about this is this is really born out of an attitude average people aren't qualified to have qualified opinions on anything. Only designated experts are allowed to do such things. Who are these noble people that are suppose to know what we should do with our lives? Should we at least get to choose who our expert is going to be or does the government have the only say over that as well?

The worse part is that the whole thing is rather political in nature. Most of these people are kind of 'conservative' which means some 'liberal' discovered a clever argument to silence them. The argument is that they are not qualified therefore they shouldn't be allowed to give advice because of some obscure XYZ rule.


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So, is it free speech to say whatever you like, no matter how wrong it is?

If I give the advice for a headache to jump off a very high cliff, is this free speech and is it protected by the constitution? Or is it only protected in some cases and not in others?

If you give someone with a headache the suggestion of jumping off a very high cliff, and they
take that advice.
I consider you did the world a favor by getting rid of a total moron. Good job. Keep it up

 

[peach174]

This is exactly what happens when 'liberals' get to decide what can be said about anything. These people are doing a radio talk show and they give advice. The shows are fun and informative but all of sudeen 'liberals' have decided they are not official experts or qualified to give advice thus they shouldn't give any at all. This would mean that anyone, your mother, your father, the guy down the street, and anyone can't speak freely about what you should be doing with your life even if you ask them.

The worst part about this is this is really born out of an attitude average people aren't qualified to have qualified opinions on anything. Only designated experts are allowed to do such things. Who are these noble people that are suppose to know what we should do with our lives? Should we at least get to choose who our expert is going to be or does the government have the only say over that as well?

The worse part is that the whole thing is rather political in nature. Most of these people are kind of 'conservative' which means some 'liberal' discovered a clever argument to silence them. The argument is that they are not qualified therefore they shouldn't be allowed to give advice because of some obscure XYZ rule.


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So, is it free speech to say whatever you like, no matter how wrong it is?

If I give the advice for a headache to jump off a very high cliff, is this free speech and is it protected by the constitution? Or is it only protected in some cases and not in others?

Free speech without morals never works and is not true freedom.
It is the very foundation of our Constitution.
Without self regulation, morals and principles there is no freedom.

 

[frigidweirdo]

So what this story is isn't censorship, it's man who isn't qualified to do job who may be told to stop doing job and kicking up a fuss because he wants to keep doing that job.

Lol, 'not qualified' is the new 'verboten thought' label used by leftwing fascists to silence those they disapprove of?

How interesting.

Probably learned it from the right when they said Obama wasn't qualified to be President, I guess.

 

[frigidweirdo]

This is exactly what happens when 'liberals' get to decide what can be said about anything. These people are doing a radio talk show and they give advice. The shows are fun and informative but all of sudeen 'liberals' have decided they are not official experts or qualified to give advice thus they shouldn't give any at all. This would mean that anyone, your mother, your father, the guy down the street, and anyone can't speak freely about what you should be doing with your life even if you ask them.

The worst part about this is this is really born out of an attitude average people aren't qualified to have qualified opinions on anything. Only designated experts are allowed to do such things. Who are these noble people that are suppose to know what we should do with our lives? Should we at least get to choose who our expert is going to be or does the government have the only say over that as well?

The worse part is that the whole thing is rather political in nature. Most of these people are kind of 'conservative' which means some 'liberal' discovered a clever argument to silence them. The argument is that they are not qualified therefore they shouldn't be allowed to give advice because of some obscure XYZ rule.


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So, is it free speech to say whatever you like, no matter how wrong it is?

If I give the advice for a headache to jump off a very high cliff, is this free speech and is it protected by the constitution? Or is it only protected in some cases and not in others?

If you give someone with a headache the suggestion of jumping off a very high cliff, and they
take that advice.
I consider you did the world a favor by getting rid of a total moron. Good job. Keep it up

A moron or mentally unstable? There's a difference.

 

[frigidweirdo]

This is exactly what happens when 'liberals' get to decide what can be said about anything. These people are doing a radio talk show and they give advice. The shows are fun and informative but all of sudeen 'liberals' have decided they are not official experts or qualified to give advice thus they shouldn't give any at all. This would mean that anyone, your mother, your father, the guy down the street, and anyone can't speak freely about what you should be doing with your life even if you ask them.

The worst part about this is this is really born out of an attitude average people aren't qualified to have qualified opinions on anything. Only designated experts are allowed to do such things. Who are these noble people that are suppose to know what we should do with our lives? Should we at least get to choose who our expert is going to be or does the government have the only say over that as well?

The worse part is that the whole thing is rather political in nature. Most of these people are kind of 'conservative' which means some 'liberal' discovered a clever argument to silence them. The argument is that they are not qualified therefore they shouldn't be allowed to give advice because of some obscure XYZ rule.


How Fiduciary Rule May Censor Financial Broadcasters Like Dave Ramsey

So, is it free speech to say whatever you like, no matter how wrong it is?

If I give the advice for a headache to jump off a very high cliff, is this free speech and is it protected by the constitution? Or is it only protected in some cases and not in others?

Free speech without morals never works and is not true freedom.
It is the very foundation of our Constitution.
Without self regulation, morals and principles there is no freedom.

At the same time there must be a line where you do something and you're protected, and you do something else and you're not protected. How do courts decide on morality?

 

[peach174]

This is exactly what happens when 'liberals' get to decide what can be said about anything. These people are doing a radio talk show and they give advice. The shows are fun and informative but all of sudeen 'liberals' have decided they are not official experts or qualified to give advice thus they shouldn't give any at all. This would mean that anyone, your mother, your father, the guy down the street, and anyone can't speak freely about what you should be doing with your life even if you ask them.

The worst part about this is this is really born out of an attitude average people aren't qualified to have qualified opinions on anything. Only designated experts are allowed to do such things. Who are these noble people that are suppose to know what we should do with our lives? Should we at least get to choose who our expert is going to be or does the government have the only say over that as well?

The worse part is that the whole thing is rather political in nature. Most of these people are kind of 'conservative' which means some 'liberal' discovered a clever argument to silence them. The argument is that they are not qualified therefore they shouldn't be allowed to give advice because of some obscure XYZ rule.


How Fiduciary Rule May Censor Financial Broadcasters Like Dave Ramsey

So, is it free speech to say whatever you like, no matter how wrong it is?

If I give the advice for a headache to jump off a very high cliff, is this free speech and is it protected by the constitution? Or is it only protected in some cases and not in others?

Free speech without morals never works and is not true freedom.
It is the very foundation of our Constitution.
Without self regulation, morals and principles there is no freedom.

At the same time there must be a line where you do something and you're protected, and you do something else and you're not protected. How do courts decide on morality?

Is it wrong to murder or not?

 

[frigidweirdo]

This is exactly what happens when 'liberals' get to decide what can be said about anything. These people are doing a radio talk show and they give advice. The shows are fun and informative but all of sudeen 'liberals' have decided they are not official experts or qualified to give advice thus they shouldn't give any at all. This would mean that anyone, your mother, your father, the guy down the street, and anyone can't speak freely about what you should be doing with your life even if you ask them.

The worst part about this is this is really born out of an attitude average people aren't qualified to have qualified opinions on anything. Only designated experts are allowed to do such things. Who are these noble people that are suppose to know what we should do with our lives? Should we at least get to choose who our expert is going to be or does the government have the only say over that as well?

The worse part is that the whole thing is rather political in nature. Most of these people are kind of 'conservative' which means some 'liberal' discovered a clever argument to silence them. The argument is that they are not qualified therefore they shouldn't be allowed to give advice because of some obscure XYZ rule.


How Fiduciary Rule May Censor Financial Broadcasters Like Dave Ramsey

So, is it free speech to say whatever you like, no matter how wrong it is?

If I give the advice for a headache to jump off a very high cliff, is this free speech and is it protected by the constitution? Or is it only protected in some cases and not in others?

Free speech without morals never works and is not true freedom.
It is the very foundation of our Constitution.
Without self regulation, morals and principles there is no freedom.

At the same time there must be a line where you do something and you're protected, and you do something else and you're not protected. How do courts decide on morality?

Is it wrong to murder or not?

Is it wrong to say "You should jump off a cliff"? Seeing as we're talking about free speech?

So, it's never wrong, always wrong, or sometimes wrong?

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Conservatives believe in Free speech except for Doctors in Emergency Rooms talking to victims of Domestic violence about guns in the household...such speech is strictly forbidden ...carry on

 

[Camp]

Didn't we have a bunch of threads recently by conservatives telling Romney to shut up? That plus the treatment of protesters at Trump rallies by the rank and file bullies should give a clue about who disrespects freedom of speech.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

Conservatives believe in Free speech except for Doctors in Emergency Rooms talking to victims of Domestic violence about guns in the household...such speech is strictly forbidden ...carry on

they can ask but it has nothing to do with the treatment so as long as they don't expect an answer everything is good.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

Didn't we have a bunch of threads recently by conservatives telling Romney to shut up? That plus the treatment of protesters at Trump rallies by the rank and file bullies should give a clue about who disrespects freedom of speech.

You mean like Bill Cliinton throwing out Marines that questioned Hillary's refusal to first help and then lie about Benghazi?
that kind of freedom of speech violation? and last I checked, Bill and Hillary are pretty much as far left as you can get, well, except for Bernie, is pretty far left.

 

[Camp]

Didn't we have a bunch of threads recently by conservatives telling Romney to shut up? That plus the treatment of protesters at Trump rallies by the rank and file bullies should give a clue about who disrespects freedom of speech.

You mean like Bill Cliinton throwing out Marines that questioned Hillary's refusal to first help and then lie about Benghazi?
that kind of freedom of speech violation? and last I checked, Bill and Hillary are pretty much as far left as you can get, well, except for Bernie, is pretty far left.

It was one Marine and Bill began a conversation with him. It turned sour when the guy began giving a speech and it became obvious that he was only going to rant about Benghazi and his claim about wanting to discuss veterans issues was a scam and pretext for the Benghazi rant. So you start your post out with a lie and then distort with the rest of it.
Bill Clinton is famed for getting into discussions with hecklers and how he handles him. Now Trump is also. Clinton=good, Trump=horrible

 

[Maryland Patriot]

Didn't we have a bunch of threads recently by conservatives telling Romney to shut up? That plus the treatment of protesters at Trump rallies by the rank and file bullies should give a clue about who disrespects freedom of speech.

You mean like Bill Cliinton throwing out Marines that questioned Hillary's refusal to first help and then lie about Benghazi?
that kind of freedom of speech violation? and last I checked, Bill and Hillary are pretty much as far left as you can get, well, except for Bernie, is pretty far left.

It was one Marine and Bill began a conversation with him. It turned sour when the guy began giving a speech and it became obvious that he was only going to rant about Benghazi and his claim about wanting to discuss veterans issues was a scam and pretext for the Benghazi rant. So you start your post out with a lie and then distort with the rest of it.

I expected the socialists to protect their own.
thanks for not letting me down.
so now tell me,, what makes that different from someone trying to disrupt the Trump rally?
Oh, thats right, its ok for liberals to act like total assholes.

 

[Camp]

Didn't we have a bunch of threads recently by conservatives telling Romney to shut up? That plus the treatment of protesters at Trump rallies by the rank and file bullies should give a clue about who disrespects freedom of speech.

You mean like Bill Cliinton throwing out Marines that questioned Hillary's refusal to first help and then lie about Benghazi?
that kind of freedom of speech violation? and last I checked, Bill and Hillary are pretty much as far left as you can get, well, except for Bernie, is pretty far left.

It was one Marine and Bill began a conversation with him. It turned sour when the guy began giving a speech and it became obvious that he was only going to rant about Benghazi and his claim about wanting to discuss veterans issues was a scam and pretext for the Benghazi rant. So you start your post out with a lie and then distort with the rest of it.

I expected the socialists to protect their own.
thanks for not letting me down.
so now tell me,, what makes that different from someone trying to disrupt the Trump rally?
Oh, thats right, its ok for liberals to act like total assholes.

What do you think the protestors were doing that hasn't been done since the beginnings of democracy in countries all over the world, including this one. The folks acting like assholes were Trump and his supporters. Trump standing on that stage out of control hollering with his angry red/orange face and participants in the audience shoving and assaulting peaceful protestors tells the story and the world saw it. Trump, Presidential, what a fantasy and joke. He proved his temperament and lack of emotional control for all the world to see.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

Didn't we have a bunch of threads recently by conservatives telling Romney to shut up? That plus the treatment of protesters at Trump rallies by the rank and file bullies should give a clue about who disrespects freedom of speech.

You mean like Bill Cliinton throwing out Marines that questioned Hillary's refusal to first help and then lie about Benghazi?
that kind of freedom of speech violation? and last I checked, Bill and Hillary are pretty much as far left as you can get, well, except for Bernie, is pretty far left.

It was one Marine and Bill began a conversation with him. It turned sour when the guy began giving a speech and it became obvious that he was only going to rant about Benghazi and his claim about wanting to discuss veterans issues was a scam and pretext for the Benghazi rant. So you start your post out with a lie and then distort with the rest of it.

I expected the socialists to protect their own.
thanks for not letting me down.
so now tell me,, what makes that different from someone trying to disrupt the Trump rally?
Oh, thats right, its ok for liberals to act like total assholes.

What do you think the protestors were doing that hasn't been done since the beginnings of democracy in countries all over the world, including this one. The folks acting like assholes were Trump and his supporters. Trump standing on that stage out of control hollering with his angry red/orange face and participants in the audience shoving and assaulting peaceful protestors tells the story and the world saw it. Trump, Presidential, what a fantasy and joke. He proved his temperament and lack of emotional control for all the world to see.

but you just cant ask relevant questions that actually should be answered. I think Im starting to understand.

 

[Camp]

Didn't we have a bunch of threads recently by conservatives telling Romney to shut up? That plus the treatment of protesters at Trump rallies by the rank and file bullies should give a clue about who disrespects freedom of speech.

You mean like Bill Cliinton throwing out Marines that questioned Hillary's refusal to first help and then lie about Benghazi?
that kind of freedom of speech violation? and last I checked, Bill and Hillary are pretty much as far left as you can get, well, except for Bernie, is pretty far left.

It was one Marine and Bill began a conversation with him. It turned sour when the guy began giving a speech and it became obvious that he was only going to rant about Benghazi and his claim about wanting to discuss veterans issues was a scam and pretext for the Benghazi rant. So you start your post out with a lie and then distort with the rest of it.

I expected the socialists to protect their own.
thanks for not letting me down.
so now tell me,, what makes that different from someone trying to disrupt the Trump rally?
Oh, thats right, its ok for liberals to act like total assholes.

What do you think the protestors were doing that hasn't been done since the beginnings of democracy in countries all over the world, including this one. The folks acting like assholes were Trump and his supporters. Trump standing on that stage out of control hollering with his angry red/orange face and participants in the audience shoving and assaulting peaceful protestors tells the story and the world saw it. Trump, Presidential, what a fantasy and joke. He proved his temperament and lack of emotional control for all the world to see.

but you just cant ask relevant questions that actually should be answered. I think Im starting to understand.

Why should I ask you a question? You asked me one and I immediately answered. You have made yourself perfectly clear about your thoughts on this issue and I am not interested in asking for further explanation from you.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

You mean like Bill Cliinton throwing out Marines that questioned Hillary's refusal to first help and then lie about Benghazi?
that kind of freedom of speech violation? and last I checked, Bill and Hillary are pretty much as far left as you can get, well, except for Bernie, is pretty far left.

It was one Marine and Bill began a conversation with him. It turned sour when the guy began giving a speech and it became obvious that he was only going to rant about Benghazi and his claim about wanting to discuss veterans issues was a scam and pretext for the Benghazi rant. So you start your post out with a lie and then distort with the rest of it.

I expected the socialists to protect their own.
thanks for not letting me down.
so now tell me,, what makes that different from someone trying to disrupt the Trump rally?
Oh, thats right, its ok for liberals to act like total assholes.

What do you think the protestors were doing that hasn't been done since the beginnings of democracy in countries all over the world, including this one. The folks acting like assholes were Trump and his supporters. Trump standing on that stage out of control hollering with his angry red/orange face and participants in the audience shoving and assaulting peaceful protestors tells the story and the world saw it. Trump, Presidential, what a fantasy and joke. He proved his temperament and lack of emotional control for all the world to see.

but you just cant ask relevant questions that actually should be answered. I think Im starting to understand.

Why should I ask you a question? You asked me one and I immediately answered. You have made yourself perfectly clear about your thoughts on this issue and I am not interested in asking for further explanation from you.

no, I wasnt asking you. I know thats wrong now. I was saying that according to you,, protesters can disrupt the candidate by action like total assholes and thats ok, however if someone asks a legitimate question that might make the candidate look bad, it is perfectly acceptable to physically throw them out.
I dont see any hypocrisy here.

 

[Davros]

Sounds like Obama only wants rich people to be able to invest.

 

[bripat9643]

Didn't we have a bunch of threads recently by conservatives telling Romney to shut up? That plus the treatment of protesters at Trump rallies by the rank and file bullies should give a clue about who disrespects freedom of speech.

You mean like Bill Cliinton throwing out Marines that questioned Hillary's refusal to first help and then lie about Benghazi?
that kind of freedom of speech violation? and last I checked, Bill and Hillary are pretty much as far left as you can get, well, except for Bernie, is pretty far left.

It was one Marine and Bill began a conversation with him. It turned sour when the guy began giving a speech and it became obvious that he was only going to rant about Benghazi and his claim about wanting to discuss veterans issues was a scam and pretext for the Benghazi rant. So you start your post out with a lie and then distort with the rest of it.

I expected the socialists to protect their own.
thanks for not letting me down.
so now tell me,, what makes that different from someone trying to disrupt the Trump rally?
Oh, thats right, its ok for liberals to act like total assholes.

What do you think the protestors were doing that hasn't been done since the beginnings of democracy in countries all over the world, including this one. The folks acting like assholes were Trump and his supporters. Trump standing on that stage out of control hollering with his angry red/orange face and participants in the audience shoving and assaulting peaceful protestors tells the story and the world saw it. Trump, Presidential, what a fantasy and joke. He proved his temperament and lack of emotional control for all the world to see.

Here's what they did: deliberately disrupt a private campaign event. That's something only left-wing douche nozzles have ever done. Some Republicans have put up with it. However, we've seen how that harms their campaigns. Trump isn't so stupid.

Sucks for you douche nozzles.

 

[Camp]

Didn't we have a bunch of threads recently by conservatives telling Romney to shut up? That plus the treatment of protesters at Trump rallies by the rank and file bullies should give a clue about who disrespects freedom of speech.

You mean like Bill Cliinton throwing out Marines that questioned Hillary's refusal to first help and then lie about Benghazi?
that kind of freedom of speech violation? and last I checked, Bill and Hillary are pretty much as far left as you can get, well, except for Bernie, is pretty far left.

It was one Marine and Bill began a conversation with him. It turned sour when the guy began giving a speech and it became obvious that he was only going to rant about Benghazi and his claim about wanting to discuss veterans issues was a scam and pretext for the Benghazi rant. So you start your post out with a lie and then distort with the rest of it.

I expected the socialists to protect their own.
thanks for not letting me down.
so now tell me,, what makes that different from someone trying to disrupt the Trump rally?
Oh, thats right, its ok for liberals to act like total assholes.

What do you think the protestors were doing that hasn't been done since the beginnings of democracy in countries all over the world, including this one. The folks acting like assholes were Trump and his supporters. Trump standing on that stage out of control hollering with his angry red/orange face and participants in the audience shoving and assaulting peaceful protestors tells the story and the world saw it. Trump, Presidential, what a fantasy and joke. He proved his temperament and lack of emotional control for all the world to see.

Here's what they did: deliberately disrupt a private campaign event. That's something only left-wing douche nozzles have ever done. Some Republicans have put up with it. However, we've seen how that harms their campaigns. Trump isn't so stupid.

Sucks for you douche nozzles.

Maybe that is why he did so great last night and only got his ass half way kicked by voters.