What's next after this 2 trillion dollar pork bill, how about 3 trillion more?

[pknopp]

Why not? No one has cared about the debt for years so why start now?

total bullshit---yes, people have cared..I've been saying it for years

You say people care but yet the debt continues to grow no matter who is in charge.

1. you don't refute my claim at all
2. that's why the Capitol protest was legit!!! for many reasons--they WON'T stop spending

The protest was to overturn an election. The guy who lost oversaw 8 trillion in new debt over 4 years.

so, EVERYONE knows they are over spending --on bullshit--your answer is:
they did it before!!!!!!!

That isn't what I said. People bitch about the debt but do nothing about it so why not just go with it?

 

[colfax_m]

He provided Americans with the lowest unemployment we had ever seen. That’s how you “help out” Americans.

Sure. And they worked and paid taxes so the rich could buy new boats and houses while the roads and bridges crumble as Trump neglected the basic functions of government.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The protest was to overturn an election. The guy who lost oversaw 8 trillion in new debt over 4 years.

Two of those years under a Democrat House; you know, those people with our national debit card?

 

[JustAnotherNut]

I won't argue for the need of infrastructure......we need it. But I'd rather see people get back to work first, in order to pay for all this.

 

[pknopp]

Why not? No one has cared about the debt for years so why start now?

Not sure what you are talking about....we have been trying to get a second covid relief package passed for sometime....the left refused over and over again to compromise on their massive spending bill, mitch and the gop were concerned at the massive bill and offered packages that were focused just on covid offering much less..so they were certainly concerned.

Under Mitch we passed a bill that gave Tom Brady a million dollars.

 

[pknopp]

The protest was to overturn an election. The guy who lost oversaw 8 trillion in new debt over 4 years.

Two of those years under a Democrat House; you know, those people with our national debit card?

And two under Republican control all signed off by Trump. Trump even pushed for $2000. Is that the way to balance the budget?

 

[theHawk]

He provided Americans with the lowest unemployment we had ever seen. That’s how you “help out” Americans.

Sure. And they worked and paid taxes so the rich could buy new boats and houses while the roads and bridges crumble as Trump neglected the basic functions of government.

And the people that build and sell boats and houses have jobs.
See how that works, dolt?

 

[struth]

Why not? No one has cared about the debt for years so why start now?

Not sure what you are talking about....we have been trying to get a second covid relief package passed for sometime....the left refused over and over again to compromise on their massive spending bill, mitch and the gop were concerned at the massive bill and offered packages that were focused just on covid offering much less..so they were certainly concerned.

Under Mitch we passed a bill that gave Tom Brady a million dollars.

Really? Tom got a million dollar check from the US Govt? Can I see the link?

 

[colfax_m]

And the people that build and sell boats and houses have jobs.
See how that works, dolt?

Let them eat cake!

 

[harmonica]

Why not? No one has cared about the debt for years so why start now?

total bullshit---yes, people have cared..I've been saying it for years

You say people care but yet the debt continues to grow no matter who is in charge.

1. you don't refute my claim at all
2. that's why the Capitol protest was legit!!! for many reasons--they WON'T stop spending

The protest was to overturn an election. The guy who lost oversaw 8 trillion in new debt over 4 years.

so, EVERYONE knows they are over spending --on bullshit--your answer is:
they did it before!!!!!!!

That isn't what I said. People bitch about the debt but do nothing about it so why not just go with it?

.....and--and--this is NOTHING like before--we are in a pandemic--Americans losing jobs and not being vaccinated---and what do they do?????!!!!!!!! give billions to other countries!!!!!!!!!!!!!! for Covid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!-- = they need to be taken out

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

A 75% tax on all income over $1,000,000.00

I have a better idea: How about if we all pay for it for a change? I suggest a consumption tax. 10 cents on every dollar spent. If we spend more, raise it to 11 cents. Free college? 12 cents. Reparations? 13 cents.

If the federal income tax rate was 0%, the federal government would collect 0 dollars. If the federal income tax rate were 100%, the federal government would still collect 0 dollars because who would be stupid enough to create wealth?

 

[pknopp]

Why not? No one has cared about the debt for years so why start now?

Not sure what you are talking about....we have been trying to get a second covid relief package passed for sometime....the left refused over and over again to compromise on their massive spending bill, mitch and the gop were concerned at the massive bill and offered packages that were focused just on covid offering much less..so they were certainly concerned.

Under Mitch we passed a bill that gave Tom Brady a million dollars.

Really? Tom got a million dollar check from the US Govt? Can I see the link?

Tom Brady's health and wellness company received a $1 million PPP loan.

 

[pknopp]

Why not? No one has cared about the debt for years so why start now?

total bullshit---yes, people have cared..I've been saying it for years

You say people care but yet the debt continues to grow no matter who is in charge.

1. you don't refute my claim at all
2. that's why the Capitol protest was legit!!! for many reasons--they WON'T stop spending

The protest was to overturn an election. The guy who lost oversaw 8 trillion in new debt over 4 years.

so, EVERYONE knows they are over spending --on bullshit--your answer is:
they did it before!!!!!!!

That isn't what I said. People bitch about the debt but do nothing about it so why not just go with it?

.....and--and--this is NOTHING like before--we are in a pandemic--Americans losing jobs and not being vaccinated---and what do they do?????!!!!!!!! give billions to other countries!!!!!!!!!!!!!! for Covid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!-- = they need to be taken out

We have been giving other countries billions for decades under both (D) and (R) presidents.

 

[initforme]

Sending out $ to poor people(under 75 grand income) is a good idea at this time even if they are still working. They are the ones who put it into the economy and since wages have stunk since forever it won't hurt anything. But pull the pork out I do agree.

 

[shockedcanadian]

WASHINGTON (AP) — Looking beyond the $1.9 trillion COVID relief bill, President Joe Biden and lawmakers are laying the groundwork for another top legislative priority — a long-sought boost to the nation’s roads, bridges and other infrastructure that could run into Republican resistance to a hefty price tag.

Biden and his team have begun discussions on the possible outlines of an infrastructure package with members of Congress, particularly mindful that Texas’ recent struggles with power outages and water shortages after a brutal winter storm present an opportunity for agreement on sustained spending on infrastructure.

Democrats passed a $1.5 trillion package in the House last year, but it went nowhere with the Trump administration and the Republican-led Senate. A Senate panel approved narrower bipartisan legislation in 2019 focused on reauthorizing federal transportation programs. It, too, flamed out as the U.S. turned its focus to elections and COVID-19.

Biden has talked bigger numbers, and some Democrats are now urging him to bypass Republicans in the closely divided Congress to address a broader range of priorities urged by interest groups.

During the presidential campaign, Biden pledged to deploy $2 trillion on infrastructure and clean energy, but the White House has not ruled out an even higher price tag. McCarthy said Biden’s upcoming plan will specifically aim at job creation, such as with investments to boost “workers that have been left behind” by closed coal mines or power plants, as well as communities located near polluting refineries and other hazards.

DeFazio said General Motors’ recently announced goal of going largely electric by 2035 demonstrates the need for massive spending on charging stations across the country. Biden campaigned on a plan to install 500,000 charging stations by the end of 2030.

Biden team readies wider economic package after virus relief

Looking beyond the $1.9 trillion COVID relief bill, President Joe Biden and lawmakers are laying the groundwork for another top legislative priority — a long-sought boost to the nation’s road…

fox8.com

It's been written about that the Covid bill is around 90% pork that has nothing to do with the actual virus itself. Billions of dollars for nonsense like mass transit in Piglosi's state as well as a bridge to Canada in Shoemakers state. Now it's time to spend more money catering to their construction union supporters.

With the Republicans virtually helpless to control spending, we could very well find ourselves with a 4 to 5 trillion dollar additional debt within the first few months under this administration, mostly pandering to unions, environmentalists, and a host of Democrat loyalists. 500,000 charging stations by 2030? At this rate, the US will be Venezuela by then.

Basically, the U.S debt is going to create rapid inflation while also ensuring the collapse of the U.S greenback. Once this happens, it will be replaced by the Yuan and it's game over.

Those responsible for its collapse will be fine. They aren't living in the same neighbourhoods as you or I and I'm sure the most influential will have converted their dollars to the yuan long before hand.

Our economy is so weak that our dollar is still under .80 U.S. How far will the West fall? It seems the E.U has already placed it's bet, and it's not on America.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

And two under Republican control all signed off by Trump. Trump even pushed for $2000. Is that the way to balance the budget?

No, and we on the right were not happy about some of his spending either. But since the commies took over the House, the biggest debate between the Republicans and Democrats were the Democrats kept wanting to spend more and the Republicans less. You can't blame the Republicans for half that spending.

 

[pknopp]

And two under Republican control all signed off by Trump. Trump even pushed for $2000. Is that the way to balance the budget?

No, and we on the right were not happy about some of his spending either. But since the commies took over the House, the biggest debate between the Republicans and Democrats were the Democrats kept wanting to spend more and the Republicans less. You can't blame the Republicans for half that spending.

Trump didn't do it and you expect someone else is?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Basically, the U.S debt is going to create inflation while also ensuring the collapse of the U.S greenback. Once this happens, it will be replaced by the Yuan and it's game over.

Those responsible for its collapse will be fine. They aren't living in the same neighbourhoods as you or I and I'm sure the most influential will have converted their dollars to the yuan long before hand.

Once our debt is so great we can't even pay the interest on it, our country goes into bankruptcy. It collapses.

 

[shockedcanadian]

And two under Republican control all signed off by Trump. Trump even pushed for $2000. Is that the way to balance the budget?

No, and we on the right were not happy about some of his spending either. But since the commies took over the House, the biggest debate between the Republicans and Democrats were the Democrats kept wanting to spend more and the Republicans less. You can't blame the Republicans for half that spending.

It's why voices like Rand Paul are valuable. Notice though, how former Commie voting John Brennan (how did he become CIA chief again?) suggested some "libertarians" might be National Security threats?

I wonder what his object is when he makes such an incendiary comment.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Trump didn't do it and you expect someone else is?

All appropriation bills originate in the House. They are in charge of what we spend. The House is more responsible than the Senate or the President because that's who comes up with the idea of how we spend money.