What's a conservative way to address healthcare and insurance costs?

[JoeB131]

The Organ Procurement and Transplantation Network (OPTN) is the primary organization that ranks transplant recipients based on need. It provides a comprehensive database of information about the candidate waiting list and transplant surgeries. The OPTN maintains the national database of information about the candidate waiting list and transplant surgeries, allowing for the exploration of transplant and donor trends and key statistics.
The Scientific Registry of Transplant Recipients (SRTR) also plays a significant role in ranking transplant recipients. It provides statistical analysis to the OPTN and the Department of Health and Human Services, assisting in policy development, performance metrics, economic analysis, and preparation of special reports to Congress. SRTR data is publicly available and accessible to everyone, including the public.
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Both the OPTN and SRTR are essential resources for understanding the ranking and need for organ transplants in the United States.

So there are "death panels".

Which wasn't my point.

Finite number of transplant organs... you have to make decisions.

There aren't a finite number of internal difibulators.

 

[sealybobo]

IMHO.....It's the same as the fix for student loans - get the .gov out of the health care business.

Government laws and policies got us here so I don't think more government policies, no matter how well intentioned, is gonna fix it.

That and Health Care Insurance should be able to be bought like car insurance, across state lines.

Let folks purchase whatever insurance product they want instead of being forced into a product designed to subsidize others.

My dad's a senior and he is paying $22 more a month. Under Biden it never went up.

That's $264 in healthcare increase.

 

[Zincwarrior]

My dad's a senior and he is paying $22 more a month. Under Biden it never went up.

That's $264 in healthcare increase.

Its not a bug. Its a feature.

 

[Seymour Flops]

My dad's a senior and he is paying $22 more a month. Under Biden it never went up.

That's $264 in healthcare increase.

Is that the worst horror story you know, so far?

 

[Zincwarrior]

Is that the worst horror story you know, so far?

No dumbfuck. Medical bankruptcies are the worst stories. Pathetic vermin.

 

[TNHarley]

Depends on if you are talking about actual conservatism or what they call it today.

 

[Seymour Flops]

No dumbfuck. Medical bankruptcies are the worst stories. Pathetic vermin.

The $22 increase was what your boyfriend led with.

All the horror stories seem to be financial, problems caused by poor choices, such as not getting a job with employer-provided healthcare and not getting a health savings account or a flexible savings account. Too much of the health budget spent on "medicinal" marijuana . . .

Not people dying from not having health insurance. That isn't happening, unless you think bankruptcy is worse than death.

Now, these bankruptcies, they have occurred dozen years?

I know who is not dealing with bankruptcy? CEO's of health insurance providers. They are having billions pumped into their pockets taken from waitresses, mechanics, and janitors.

 

[DennisPTate]

IMHO.....It's the same as the fix for student loans - get the .gov out of the health care business.

Government laws and policies got us here so I don't think more government policies, no matter how well intentioned, is gonna fix it.

That and Health Care Insurance should be able to be bought like car insurance, across state lines.

Let folks purchase whatever insurance product they want instead of being forced into a product designed to subsidize others.

An Unconditional but Taxable MINISCULE Basic Minimum Income Supplement that is financed for us Canadians through the Bank of Canada, who Prime Minister Pierre E. Trudeau stopped us from using back in 1974, [supposedly to give much higher rates of return to P. M. Trudeau's buddies in Switzerland and..... and.... and.... and.... and ... .and!

I am advocating for a pathetic five hundred Northern Pesos to all forty five million or so Canadians.... because IF we were to finance it through The Bank of Canada that we virtually stopped using back in 1974.... we should be able to prove that the Canadian federal deficit and soon the national debt of Canada can be paid down by about TWENTY BILLION NORTHERN PESOS monthly?! [i think]?!

Then Canadians can use their Unconditional but Taxable B. M. I. supplement to purchase health insurance...... because our existing medical system is A JOKE!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Seymour Flops]

Then Canadians can use their Unconditional but Taxable B. M. I. supplement to purchase health insurance...... because our existing medical system is A JOKE!!!!!!!!!!

What would be done about Candians who didn't purchase health insurance, but instead chose to spend it on hockey tickets, and getting their nails done?

 

[sealybobo]

Is that the worst horror story you know, so far?

Keep adding it up

$4 more for coffee
$265

Should we keep a running list every time I can point out Trumpflation? Or will you concede yes Trump raised the cost of EVERYTHING?

 

[DennisPTate]

What would be done about Candians who didn't purchase health insurance, but instead chose to spend it on hockey tickets, and getting their nails done?

I am guessing that they could just keep on using the Existing Canadian Health Care system with the long waiting times even for medical emergencies...... and obsolete treatments?!

 

[braalian]

Just curious if you meant invasive?

Yes, thank you, typo

 

[Seymour Flops]

Keep adding it up

$4 more for coffee
$265

Should we keep a running list every time I can point out Trumpflation? Or will you concede yes Trump raised the cost of EVERYTHING?

I know inflation is way down, nowhere near the runaway inflation we had under Biden. The prices have not come down to pre-Biden levels, but when do they ever. Best we can get is leveling off of prices and Trump has done that nicely.

Honestly, though, I cannot really relate to your plight, and maybe I should try more. I should be more sympathetic, I suppose.

How badly does four dollars for coffee affect you? Is that four dollars more per cup at Starbucks, four per pound, or what? How much coffee do you actually drink? I have two K-cups in the morning, sometimes three on a weekend morning and that's about it. We get them literally in a big box at a "big box" store, and only I drink them. Sometimes I have a breakfast meal at chick-fil-a or Whataburger and the coffee is basically free. Maybe you should stop shopping at Aldi.

I'd have to ask Mrs. Flops if the price has gone up significantly. She does take notice of that kind of thing (which, now that I think about it probably has a lot to do with why I do not). You need a good wife (or I should say "spouse," I suppose).

Four dollars, twenty-two dollars, these are not amounts that are going to affect me in any noticeable way. Not because I'm super-rich or anything. But I don't live paycheck to paycheck and I am way ahead of where I was at the end of the Biden administration, from the stock markets affect on my retirement accounts alone.

So, from the perspective of a person who has made poor financial and relationship choices all of your life, so much so that you cannot even help your fixed income father with the health insurance increase of twenty-two big ones, what is your most pressing financial problem? How do you see government solving it? By taking money from whom and giving it to you?

 

[Seymour Flops]

I am guessing that they could just keep on using the Existing Canadian Health Care system with the long waiting times even for medical emergencies...... and obsolete treatments?!

Interesting. Are Canadians willing to watch people who make poor choices financially get inferior healthcare because of it? That sticks in the craws of a large plurality of Americans.

I think you were talking before about this basic mininimum but taxable income. Would it reduce the Canadian National Debt, did you say? How?

 

[sealybobo]

I know inflation is way down, nowhere near the runaway inflation we had under Biden. The prices have not come down to pre-Biden levels, but when do they ever. Best we can get is leveling off of prices and Trump has done that nicely.

Honestly, though, I cannot really relate to your plight, and maybe I should try more. I should be more sympathetic, I suppose.

How badly does four dollars for coffee affect you? Is that four dollars more per cup at Starbucks, four per pound, or what? How much coffee do you actually drink? I have two K-cups in the morning, sometimes three on a weekend morning and that's about it. We get them literally in a big box at a "big box" store, and only I drink them. Sometimes I have a breakfast meal at chick-fil-a or Whataburger and the coffee is basically free. Maybe you should stop shopping at Aldi.

I'd have to ask Mrs. Flops if the price has gone up significantly. She does take notice of that kind of thing (which, now that I think about it probably has a lot to do with why I do not). You need a good wife (or I should say "spouse," I suppose).

Four dollars, twenty-two dollars, these are not amounts that are going to affect me in any noticeable way. Not because I'm super-rich or anything. But I don't live paycheck to paycheck and I am way ahead of where I was at the end of the Biden administration, from the stock markets affect on my retirement accounts alone.

So, from the perspective of a person who has made poor financial and relationship choices all of your life, so much so that you cannot even help your fixed income father with the health insurance increase of twenty-two big ones, what is your most pressing financial problem? How do you see government solving it? By taking money from whom and giving it to you?

How is that possible? Inflation was coming down under Biden and Trump slapped a 10-60% tariff on everything. What you are saying is impossible.

Remember, 2 dolls this xmas. Or 2 pencils. That's not something a president says when costs are down, dumb ass.

 

[DennisPTate]

Interesting. Are Canadians willing to watch people who make poor choices financially get inferior healthcare because of it? That sticks in the craws of a large plurality of Americans.

I think you were talking before about this basic mininimum but taxable income. Would it reduce the Canadian National Debt, did you say? How?

Many Canadians are too scared of The CBC to make any sort of useful statement on this or pretty much any other serious problems facing Canadians. I am a blue collar who has nothing to lose, so I already campaigned for public office four times, and got merely forty one votes total in all four campaigns combined.

Then again, heroic figures like Ms. Tamara Lich being in jail...... does tend to cool down even a relatively passionate Canadian.

 

[sealybobo]

I know inflation is way down, nowhere near the runaway inflation we had under Biden. The prices have not come down to pre-Biden levels, but when do they ever. Best we can get is leveling off of prices and Trump has done that nicely.

Honestly, though, I cannot really relate to your plight, and maybe I should try more. I should be more sympathetic, I suppose.

How badly does four dollars for coffee affect you? Is that four dollars more per cup at Starbucks, four per pound, or what? How much coffee do you actually drink? I have two K-cups in the morning, sometimes three on a weekend morning and that's about it. We get them literally in a big box at a "big box" store, and only I drink them. Sometimes I have a breakfast meal at chick-fil-a or Whataburger and the coffee is basically free. Maybe you should stop shopping at Aldi.

I'd have to ask Mrs. Flops if the price has gone up significantly. She does take notice of that kind of thing (which, now that I think about it probably has a lot to do with why I do not). You need a good wife (or I should say "spouse," I suppose).

Four dollars, twenty-two dollars, these are not amounts that are going to affect me in any noticeable way. Not because I'm super-rich or anything. But I don't live paycheck to paycheck and I am way ahead of where I was at the end of the Biden administration, from the stock markets affect on my retirement accounts alone.

So, from the perspective of a person who has made poor financial and relationship choices all of your life, so much so that you cannot even help your fixed income father with the health insurance increase of twenty-two big ones, what is your most pressing financial problem? How do you see government solving it? By taking money from whom and giving it to you?

Oh don't give me that how much does $4 extra dollars for coffee affect me. Did you ask me that last year under Biden inflation? No you did not. And by the way, I hardly noticed Biden inflation because I'm a single person with no kids and no mortgage and I make pretty good money.

Inflation under Biden wasn't Biden's fault. It happened all over the world. Trump's tariffs are going to cost me more money I would otherwise save. I'm going to be working 7 more years. I save an extra $10K a year. So maybe now this year it will only be $7000 I save. X 7 years, plus interest. That's what Trumpflation is going to cost me. And you.

 

[sealybobo]

I know inflation is way down, nowhere near the runaway inflation we had under Biden. The prices have not come down to pre-Biden levels, but when do they ever. Best we can get is leveling off of prices and Trump has done that nicely.

Honestly, though, I cannot really relate to your plight, and maybe I should try more. I should be more sympathetic, I suppose.

How badly does four dollars for coffee affect you? Is that four dollars more per cup at Starbucks, four per pound, or what? How much coffee do you actually drink? I have two K-cups in the morning, sometimes three on a weekend morning and that's about it. We get them literally in a big box at a "big box" store, and only I drink them. Sometimes I have a breakfast meal at chick-fil-a or Whataburger and the coffee is basically free. Maybe you should stop shopping at Aldi.

I'd have to ask Mrs. Flops if the price has gone up significantly. She does take notice of that kind of thing (which, now that I think about it probably has a lot to do with why I do not). You need a good wife (or I should say "spouse," I suppose).

Four dollars, twenty-two dollars, these are not amounts that are going to affect me in any noticeable way. Not because I'm super-rich or anything. But I don't live paycheck to paycheck and I am way ahead of where I was at the end of the Biden administration, from the stock markets affect on my retirement accounts alone.

So, from the perspective of a person who has made poor financial and relationship choices all of your life, so much so that you cannot even help your fixed income father with the health insurance increase of twenty-two big ones, what is your most pressing financial problem? How do you see government solving it? By taking money from whom and giving it to you?

My dad is living off social security and the interest he gets on $800K. He can afford Trumpflation.

I'm just going to point out each time I notice something went up in price BECAUSE of Trump. Not just on his watch but because of what he did.

The thing I sell, went up 10%. You don't think that's going to trickle down to you? Oh you'll be fine just like you survived inflation under Biden. The only thing I'm pointing out is you seem to be okay with it when it's a Republican president who just bent us all over.

Affordability! The mother ****** ran on it.

 

[XponentialChaos]

Conservatives have no idea how to address healthcare.

 

[Seymour Flops]

How is that possible? Inflation was coming down under Biden and Trump slapped a 10-60% tariff on everything. What you are saying is impossible.

Remember, 2 dolls this xmas. Or 2 pencils. That's not something a president says when costs are down, dumb ass.

Still waiting on those tariff's to cause inflation.

You are believing too much of the "predictive news," where "experts say" this or that will happen. That isn't news.

My dad is living off social security and the interest he gets on $800K. He can afford Trumpflation.

I'm just going to point out each time I notice something went up in price BECAUSE of Trump. Not just on his watch but because of what he did.

That's not much of a life, but i suppose it is the life you have chosen.

You do you, Boo!

The thing I sell, went up 10%. You don't think that's going to trickle down to you? Oh you'll be fine just like you survived inflation under Biden. The only thing I'm pointing out is you seem to be okay with it when it's a Republican president who just bent us all over.

The border is secure, which your party or "not your party" swore was impossible. If Trump hasn't brought down Bidenflation as much as he thought he would, I still don't want to go back to Biden-era borders.

Affordability! The mother ****** ran on it.

No, that's false.

The Democrats were talking about running on it in 2026 and 2028. Then they got distracted again by "unlawful orders," or whatever.