CDZ What would it take to change your mind re: 2020?

[dblack]

Only 16 people have been brought up on criminal charges for attempting to vote illegally. some of them are Republicans. Yet to many still promote the big lie. The lie that is endangering our Democracy.

That is more of an indictment of a failed, corrupted and broken election system more than it is a statement of our election integrity! To wit: a large bunch of leftwing orgs have ALREADY admitted to organizing to systematically effect a win for Biden over Trump, so it really is a moot point. They did not work to just get more people to vote, they worked specifically to get more people to vote BIDEN in order to ensure Trump WASN'T reelected. That is election rigging.

LOL - how is that election fraud???

 

[toobfreak]

That is not election rigging that is how democracy is supposed to work

Wow. Talk about FUCKED IN THE HEAD. That must be why the democrats spent 45 million dollars and three years fighting it when they thought Trump and the GOP were doing it?

When Trump does it: impeachable foreign collusion.

But when the democrats do it: Democracy in action.

 

[alang1216]

Only 16 people have been brought up on criminal charges for attempting to vote illegally. some of them are Republicans. Yet to many still promote the big lie. The lie that is endangering our Democracy.

That is more of an indictment of a failed, corrupted and broken election system more than it is a statement of our election integrity! To wit: a large bunch of leftwing orgs have ALREADY admitted to organizing to systematically effect a win for Biden over Trump, so it really is a moot point. They did not work to just get more people to vote, they worked specifically to get more people to vote BIDEN in order to ensure Trump WASN'T reelected. That is election rigging.

ELECTION 2020 is mud.

That is not election rigging that is how democracy is supposed to work, it is called a campaign. The GOP didn't work specifically to get more people to vote Trump in order to ensure Biden WASN'T elected?

Trump increased his total by 17%.
The only incumbent president in the past 150 years to increase in votes and still lose was Cleveland in 1888 and he won the popular vote.
Trump’s 17% increase is comparable to FDR’s 1936 second-run 22% increase and FDR won the electoral college by 523 - 8.

Trump is truly historic, you bet. So? Records stand until they are broken.

That’s no reply to my rebuttal.

I fail to see evidence for fraud in you rebuttal.

 

[toobfreak]

Only 16 people have been brought up on criminal charges for attempting to vote illegally. some of them are Republicans. Yet to many still promote the big lie. The lie that is endangering our Democracy.

That is more of an indictment of a failed, corrupted and broken election system more than it is a statement of our election integrity! To wit: a large bunch of leftwing orgs have ALREADY admitted to organizing to systematically effect a win for Biden over Trump, so it really is a moot point. They did not work to just get more people to vote, they worked specifically to get more people to vote BIDEN in order to ensure Trump WASN'T reelected. That is election rigging.

ELECTION 2020 is mud.

That is not election rigging that is how democracy is supposed to work, it is called a campaign. The GOP didn't work specifically to get more people to vote Trump in order to ensure Biden WASN'T elected?

Trump increased his total by 17%.
The only incumbent president in the past 150 years to increase in votes and still lose was Cleveland in 1888 and he won the popular vote.
Trump’s 17% increase is comparable to FDR’s 1936 second-run 22% increase and FDR won the electoral college by 523 - 8.

Trump is truly historic, you bet. So? Records stand until they are broken.

That’s no reply to my rebuttal.

No, it's never a cogent reply; rather, just another leftwing rationalization and dismissal, because the ends suited them.

 

[dblack]

That is not election rigging that is how democracy is supposed to work

Wow. Talk about FUCKED IN THE HEAD. That must be why the democrats spent 45 million dollars and three years fighting it when they thought Trump and the GOP were doing it?

When Trump does it: impeachable foreign collusion.

But when the democrats do it: Democracy in action.

Does what??? Seriously, re-read what you wrote. All you're describing are the standard goals for any political campaign:

"To wit: a large bunch of leftwing orgs have ALREADY admitted to organizing to systematically effect a win for Biden over Trump, so it really is a moot point. They did not work to just get more people to vote, they worked specifically to get more people to vote BIDEN in order to ensure Trump WASN'T reelected."

Can you explain why you think any of the above is wrong, or how amounts "election rigging"?

 

[Lastamender]

To start it would have to be a legitimate investigation. Not one by "Ninja's".

Truth is Truth and FACT ISN'T FACT? You would ignore FACTS because of who found the FACTS? Don't expect others to be picky about where the Truth comes from.

The Ninja's have no real oversight or transparency. If they held up a ballot and said it was unreadable who verified it, how did they do it, and how do we know it was unreadable BEFORE the Ninjas took over custody?

We know this could all be over with if the Democrats did not have something to hide.

It was over with long ago.

No it wasn't. You can repeat your lies until you are blue. It will never be over. The truth will come out.

Maybe the truth is out but you just refuse to admit it?

A pretty big maybe. It is a fact the Democrats do not want to prove there was no fraud. Hell, these auditors can do that for them. Why not let them? They are guilty as sin.

 

[dblack]

To start it would have to be a legitimate investigation. Not one by "Ninja's".

Truth is Truth and FACT ISN'T FACT? You would ignore FACTS because of who found the FACTS? Don't expect others to be picky about where the Truth comes from.

The Ninja's have no real oversight or transparency. If they held up a ballot and said it was unreadable who verified it, how did they do it, and how do we know it was unreadable BEFORE the Ninjas took over custody?

We know this could all be over with if the Democrats did not have something to hide.

It was over with long ago.

No it wasn't. You can repeat your lies until you are blue. It will never be over. The truth will come out.

Maybe the truth is out but you just refuse to admit it?

A pretty big maybe. It is a fact the Democrats do not want to prove there was no fraud. Hell, these auditors can do that for them. Why not let them? They are guilty as sin.

Do you get to wear the hat with the horns on it?

 

[Lastamender]

To start it would have to be a legitimate investigation. Not one by "Ninja's".

Truth is Truth and FACT ISN'T FACT? You would ignore FACTS because of who found the FACTS? Don't expect others to be picky about where the Truth comes from.

The Ninja's have no real oversight or transparency. If they held up a ballot and said it was unreadable who verified it, how did they do it, and how do we know it was unreadable BEFORE the Ninjas took over custody?

We know this could all be over with if the Democrats did not have something to hide.

It was over with long ago.

No it wasn't. You can repeat your lies until you are blue. It will never be over. The truth will come out.

Maybe the truth is out but you just refuse to admit it?

A pretty big maybe. It is a fact the Democrats do not want to prove there was no fraud. Hell, these auditors can do that for them. Why not let them? They are guilty as sin.

Do you get to wear the hat with the horns on it?

No hat changes the fact massive and obvious fraud took place. The guilt is showcased everyday when Democrats try to stop any kind of investigation or audit. That is the reality.

 

[dblack]

To start it would have to be a legitimate investigation. Not one by "Ninja's".

Truth is Truth and FACT ISN'T FACT? You would ignore FACTS because of who found the FACTS? Don't expect others to be picky about where the Truth comes from.

The Ninja's have no real oversight or transparency. If they held up a ballot and said it was unreadable who verified it, how did they do it, and how do we know it was unreadable BEFORE the Ninjas took over custody?

We know this could all be over with if the Democrats did not have something to hide.

It was over with long ago.

No it wasn't. You can repeat your lies until you are blue. It will never be over. The truth will come out.

Maybe the truth is out but you just refuse to admit it?

A pretty big maybe. It is a fact the Democrats do not want to prove there was no fraud. Hell, these auditors can do that for them. Why not let them? They are guilty as sin.

Do you get to wear the hat with the horns on it?

No hat changes ...

Yeah, but do you get to wear it?

 

[toobfreak]

That is not election rigging that is how democracy is supposed to work

Wow. Talk about FUCKED IN THE HEAD. That must be why the democrats spent 45 million dollars and three years fighting it when they thought Trump and the GOP were doing it?

When Trump does it: impeachable foreign collusion.

But when the democrats do it: Democracy in action.

Does what??? Seriously, re-read what you wrote. All you're describing are the standard goals for any political campaign:

"To wit: a large bunch of leftwing orgs have ALREADY admitted to organizing to systematically effect a win for Biden over Trump, so it really is a moot point. They did not work to just get more people to vote, they worked specifically to get more people to vote BIDEN in order to ensure Trump WASN'T reelected."

Can you explain why you think any of the above is wrong, or how amounts "election rigging"?

It'll be well covered in my thread coming up on election fraud. But seriously, thanks for proving what a total useless idiot pustule you are calling a bunch of orgs who considered and called themselves a secret body designed to ENSURE A BIDEN VICTORY just business as usual, after spending 45 million and three years trying to prove a handful of FB ads was a STOLEN ELECTION worthy of impeachment!

Just wondering, were you BORN an idiot or do you just work at it?

 

[dblack]

That is not election rigging that is how democracy is supposed to work

Wow. Talk about FUCKED IN THE HEAD. That must be why the democrats spent 45 million dollars and three years fighting it when they thought Trump and the GOP were doing it?

When Trump does it: impeachable foreign collusion.

But when the democrats do it: Democracy in action.

Does what??? Seriously, re-read what you wrote. All you're describing are the standard goals for any political campaign:

"To wit: a large bunch of leftwing orgs have ALREADY admitted to organizing to systematically effect a win for Biden over Trump, so it really is a moot point. They did not work to just get more people to vote, they worked specifically to get more people to vote BIDEN in order to ensure Trump WASN'T reelected."

Can you explain why you think any of the above is wrong, or how amounts "election rigging"?

It'll be well covered in my thread coming up on election fraud.

Awesome. Do me a huge favor, and mention "Kraken" in the thread title, so I'll know which one.

 

[toobfreak]

That is not election rigging that is how democracy is supposed to work

Wow. Talk about FUCKED IN THE HEAD. That must be why the democrats spent 45 million dollars and three years fighting it when they thought Trump and the GOP were doing it?

When Trump does it: impeachable foreign collusion.

But when the democrats do it: Democracy in action.

Does what??? Seriously, re-read what you wrote. All you're describing are the standard goals for any political campaign:

"To wit: a large bunch of leftwing orgs have ALREADY admitted to organizing to systematically effect a win for Biden over Trump, so it really is a moot point. They did not work to just get more people to vote, they worked specifically to get more people to vote BIDEN in order to ensure Trump WASN'T reelected."

Can you explain why you think any of the above is wrong, or how amounts "election rigging"?

It'll be well covered in my thread coming up on election fraud.

Awesome. Do me a huge favor, and mention "Kraken" in the thread title, so I'll know which one.

 

[GalileoSmith]

A simple question: What, specifically, would change your mind regarding the legitimacy/illegitimacy of the 2020 election? Or, if a complete change is too much, what specifically would make you seriously question and reconsider your current view?

Is there anything? I've taken to asking this question around and been surprised to find that, despite the various calls for more investigations and audits, a great many people will openly declare that no conceivable findings could ever change their minds. Have our conclusions all become so absolute that they're immune to any possible evidence?

I am not a "conspiracy theory guy". So I need actual evidence that election was rigged or that the wrong candidate won the election. I'm talking about real, actual evidence. Most all of the alleged discrepancies have been explained logically. I do believe if there was a complete recount of the votes, including an inspection of all the mail-in ballots, there would likely be different vote counts in most states. Florida's vote count might change by 120, for example, Ohio's might change by 175. That does not constitute a rigged election. I think that in the history of the world's sizeable democracies, there have been few large-scale elections that have been flawless.

 

[Lastamender]

To start it would have to be a legitimate investigation. Not one by "Ninja's".

Truth is Truth and FACT ISN'T FACT? You would ignore FACTS because of who found the FACTS? Don't expect others to be picky about where the Truth comes from.

The Ninja's have no real oversight or transparency. If they held up a ballot and said it was unreadable who verified it, how did they do it, and how do we know it was unreadable BEFORE the Ninjas took over custody?

We know this could all be over with if the Democrats did not have something to hide.

It was over with long ago.

No it wasn't. You can repeat your lies until you are blue. It will never be over. The truth will come out.

Maybe the truth is out but you just refuse to admit it?

A pretty big maybe. It is a fact the Democrats do not want to prove there was no fraud. Hell, these auditors can do that for them. Why not let them? They are guilty as sin.

Do you get to wear the hat with the horns on it?

No hat changes ...

Yeah, but do you get to wear it?

Yeah? You agree there was massive fraud. About time.

 

[dblack]

To start it would have to be a legitimate investigation. Not one by "Ninja's".

Truth is Truth and FACT ISN'T FACT? You would ignore FACTS because of who found the FACTS? Don't expect others to be picky about where the Truth comes from.

The Ninja's have no real oversight or transparency. If they held up a ballot and said it was unreadable who verified it, how did they do it, and how do we know it was unreadable BEFORE the Ninjas took over custody?

We know this could all be over with if the Democrats did not have something to hide.

It was over with long ago.

No it wasn't. You can repeat your lies until you are blue. It will never be over. The truth will come out.

Maybe the truth is out but you just refuse to admit it?

A pretty big maybe. It is a fact the Democrats do not want to prove there was no fraud. Hell, these auditors can do that for them. Why not let them? They are guilty as sin.

Do you get to wear the hat with the horns on it?

No hat changes ...

Yeah, but do you get to wear it?

Yeah? You agree there was massive fraud. About time.

I'm talking about the buffalo hat, with the horns. Do you have one, or do you just do facepaint?

 

[Lastamender]

To start it would have to be a legitimate investigation. Not one by "Ninja's".

Truth is Truth and FACT ISN'T FACT? You would ignore FACTS because of who found the FACTS? Don't expect others to be picky about where the Truth comes from.

The Ninja's have no real oversight or transparency. If they held up a ballot and said it was unreadable who verified it, how did they do it, and how do we know it was unreadable BEFORE the Ninjas took over custody?

We know this could all be over with if the Democrats did not have something to hide.

It was over with long ago.

No it wasn't. You can repeat your lies until you are blue. It will never be over. The truth will come out.

Maybe the truth is out but you just refuse to admit it?

A pretty big maybe. It is a fact the Democrats do not want to prove there was no fraud. Hell, these auditors can do that for them. Why not let them? They are guilty as sin.

Do you get to wear the hat with the horns on it?

No hat changes ...

Yeah, but do you get to wear it?

Yeah? You agree there was massive fraud. About time.

I'm talking about the buffalo hat, with the horns. Do you have one, or do you just do facepaint?

Do you lie about everything?

 

[dblack]

To start it would have to be a legitimate investigation. Not one by "Ninja's".

Truth is Truth and FACT ISN'T FACT? You would ignore FACTS because of who found the FACTS? Don't expect others to be picky about where the Truth comes from.

The Ninja's have no real oversight or transparency. If they held up a ballot and said it was unreadable who verified it, how did they do it, and how do we know it was unreadable BEFORE the Ninjas took over custody?

We know this could all be over with if the Democrats did not have something to hide.

It was over with long ago.

No it wasn't. You can repeat your lies until you are blue. It will never be over. The truth will come out.

Maybe the truth is out but you just refuse to admit it?

A pretty big maybe. It is a fact the Democrats do not want to prove there was no fraud. Hell, these auditors can do that for them. Why not let them? They are guilty as sin.

Do you get to wear the hat with the horns on it?

No hat changes ...

Yeah, but do you get to wear it?

Yeah? You agree there was massive fraud. About time.

I'm talking about the buffalo hat, with the horns. Do you have one, or do you just do facepaint?

Do you lie about everything?

Absolutely.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Only 16 people have been brought up on criminal charges for attempting to vote illegally. some of them are Republicans. Yet to many still promote the big lie. The lie that is endangering our Democracy.

That is more of an indictment of a failed, corrupted and broken election system more than it is a statement of our election integrity! To wit: a large bunch of leftwing orgs have ALREADY admitted to organizing to systematically effect a win for Biden over Trump, so it really is a moot point. They did not work to just get more people to vote, they worked specifically to get more people to vote BIDEN in order to ensure Trump WASN'T reelected. That is election rigging.

ELECTION 2020 is mud.

That is not election rigging that is how democracy is supposed to work, it is called a campaign. The GOP didn't work specifically to get more people to vote Trump in order to ensure Biden WASN'T elected?

Trump increased his total by 17%.
The only incumbent president in the past 150 years to increase in votes and still lose was Cleveland in 1888 and he won the popular vote.
Trump’s 17% increase is comparable to FDR’s 1936 second-run 22% increase and FDR won the electoral college by 523 - 8.

Trump is truly historic, you bet. So? Records stand until they are broken.

That’s no reply to my rebuttal.

I fail to see evidence for fraud in you rebuttal.

Then you’re hopelessly dishonest.

 

[dblack]

Only 16 people have been brought up on criminal charges for attempting to vote illegally. some of them are Republicans. Yet to many still promote the big lie. The lie that is endangering our Democracy.

That is more of an indictment of a failed, corrupted and broken election system more than it is a statement of our election integrity! To wit: a large bunch of leftwing orgs have ALREADY admitted to organizing to systematically effect a win for Biden over Trump, so it really is a moot point. They did not work to just get more people to vote, they worked specifically to get more people to vote BIDEN in order to ensure Trump WASN'T reelected. That is election rigging.

ELECTION 2020 is mud.

That is not election rigging that is how democracy is supposed to work, it is called a campaign. The GOP didn't work specifically to get more people to vote Trump in order to ensure Biden WASN'T elected?

Trump increased his total by 17%.
The only incumbent president in the past 150 years to increase in votes and still lose was Cleveland in 1888 and he won the popular vote.
Trump’s 17% increase is comparable to FDR’s 1936 second-run 22% increase and FDR won the electoral college by 523 - 8.

Trump is truly historic, you bet. So? Records stand until they are broken.

That’s no reply to my rebuttal.

I fail to see evidence for fraud in you rebuttal.

Then you’re hopelessly dishonest.

Anomalous data doesn't prove anything. Suggestive questions don't prove anything. If you have evidence of a conspiracy to throw the election, present it. All you have so far is whackjob paranoia.

 

[toobfreak]

Only 16 people have been brought up on criminal charges for attempting to vote illegally. some of them are Republicans. Yet to many still promote the big lie. The lie that is endangering our Democracy.

That is more of an indictment of a failed, corrupted and broken election system more than it is a statement of our election integrity! To wit: a large bunch of leftwing orgs have ALREADY admitted to organizing to systematically effect a win for Biden over Trump, so it really is a moot point. They did not work to just get more people to vote, they worked specifically to get more people to vote BIDEN in order to ensure Trump WASN'T reelected. That is election rigging.

ELECTION 2020 is mud.

That is not election rigging that is how democracy is supposed to work, it is called a campaign. The GOP didn't work specifically to get more people to vote Trump in order to ensure Biden WASN'T elected?

Trump increased his total by 17%.
The only incumbent president in the past 150 years to increase in votes and still lose was Cleveland in 1888 and he won the popular vote.
Trump’s 17% increase is comparable to FDR’s 1936 second-run 22% increase and FDR won the electoral college by 523 - 8.

Trump is truly historic, you bet. So? Records stand until they are broken.

That’s no reply to my rebuttal.

I fail to see evidence for fraud in you rebuttal.

Then you’re hopelessly dishonest.

Anomalous data doesn't prove anything.

No, it just begs to be explained. Explanations require investigation. Investigations take money and time. Two days after the election, BEFORE any evidence was out, BEFORE any court trials, you and all of the Leftwing media were already dismissing the questions as already debunked, baseless (a conclusion) and attacking anyone just for asking.

No one could ever show what their conclusions were based on.

Then you called it a Trump conspiracy theory, anyone related to it was banned from FB, so finally a few hundred people went to Washington demanding answers.

And your response was to call them terrorists.