CDZ What would it take to change your mind re: 2020?

[Lastamender]

The questions were baseless, as in there was no evidence of fraud provided. All the legal challenges by Trump's team were about process, not about fraud, as specifically stated by Giuliani.

Then why stop the audits or try to? There is only one answer. The election was stolen.

There were audits done in AZ already. How many are enough? Does anyone think a company with an agenda and a penchant for secrecy will answer anything?

Those audits were done by uncertified companies with ties to Dominion. They mean nothing. And if they are correct why the fuss? I have yet to get an answer for that.

That is untrue.

You expect me to believe those people? Try again.
Pro V&V and SLI Compliance found no evidence of internet connectivity.
Both those companies work regularly with Dominion.

One moment, please...

Just Stunning: Georgia Secretary of State Hired Dominion-Linked Firm to Conduct Audit of Dominion Voting Systems | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft

Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger The firm that conducted the audit of the Dominion Voting Systems in Georgia has links with Dominion Voting Systems.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

 

[Toro]

Nothing will ever convince the Trump cult that their Orange God lost.

That's what happens when you subsume your entire identity into a cult.

 

[Toro]

To start it would have to be a legitimate investigation. Not one by "Ninja's".

Truth is Truth and FACT ISN'T FACT? You would ignore FACTS because of who found the FACTS? Don't expect others to be picky about where the Truth comes from.

The Ninja's have no real oversight or transparency. If they held up a ballot and said it was unreadable who verified it, how did they do it, and how do we know it was unreadable BEFORE the Ninjas took over custody?

We know this could all be over with if the Democrats did not have something to hide.

There has already been three audits of the Maricopa ballots.

But you can't accept that you lost because snowflake.

 

[Faun]

The questions were baseless, as in there was no evidence of fraud provided. All the legal challenges by Trump's team were about process, not about fraud, as specifically stated by Giuliani.

Then why stop the audits or try to? There is only one answer. The election was stolen.

There were audits done in AZ already. How many are enough? Does anyone think a company with an agenda and a penchant for secrecy will answer anything?

Those audits were done by uncertified companies with ties to Dominion. They mean nothing. And if they are correct why the fuss? I have yet to get an answer for that.

Well that's not true. Both companies were Voting System Test Laboratory (VSTL) accredited.

 

[Lastamender]

Nothing will ever convince the Trump cult that their Orange God lost.

That's what happens when you subsume your entire identity into a cult.

People just do not believe lies. Go figure.

 

[Toro]

Nothing will ever convince the Trump cult that their Orange God lost.

That's what happens when you subsume your entire identity into a cult.

People just do not believe lies. Go figure.

yes, most Americans don't believe the lies of your Orange God and his rube cult

Too bad you do, snowflake

 

[Lastamender]

The questions were baseless, as in there was no evidence of fraud provided. All the legal challenges by Trump's team were about process, not about fraud, as specifically stated by Giuliani.

Then why stop the audits or try to? There is only one answer. The election was stolen.

There were audits done in AZ already. How many are enough? Does anyone think a company with an agenda and a penchant for secrecy will answer anything?

Those audits were done by uncertified companies with ties to Dominion. They mean nothing. And if they are correct why the fuss? I have yet to get an answer for that.

Well that's not true. Both companies were Voting System Test Laboratory (VSTL) accredited.

Who cares, they work with Dominion. Again if there was no fraud what is the problem?

 

[Faun]

Only 16 people have been brought up on criminal charges for attempting to vote illegally. some of them are Republicans. Yet to many still promote the big lie. The lie that is endangering our Democracy.

That is more of an indictment of a failed, corrupted and broken election system more than it is a statement of our election integrity! To wit: a large bunch of leftwing orgs have ALREADY admitted to organizing to systematically effect a win for Biden over Trump, so it really is a moot point. They did not work to just get more people to vote, they worked specifically to get more people to vote BIDEN in order to ensure Trump WASN'T reelected. That is election rigging.

ELECTION 2020 is mud.

That is not election rigging that is how democracy is supposed to work, it is called a campaign. The GOP didn't work specifically to get more people to vote Trump in order to ensure Biden WASN'T elected?

Trump increased his total by 17%.
The only incumbent president in the past 150 years to increase in votes and still lose was Cleveland in 1888 and he won the popular vote.
Trump’s 17% increase is comparable to FDR’s 1936 second-run 22% increase and FDR won the electoral college by 523 - 8.

Trump is truly historic, you bet. So? Records stand until they are broken.

That’s no reply to my rebuttal.

I fail to see evidence for fraud in you rebuttal.

Then you’re hopelessly dishonest.

Anomalous data doesn't prove anything.

No, it just begs to be explained. Explanations require investigation. Investigations take money and time. Two days after the election, BEFORE any evidence was out, BEFORE any court trials, you and all of the Leftwing media were already dismissing the questions as already debunked, baseless (a conclusion) and attacking anyone just for asking.

No one could ever show what their conclusions were based on.

Then you called it a Trump conspiracy theory, anyone related to it was banned from FB, so finally a few hundred people went to Washington demanding answers.

And your response was to call them terrorists.

The questions were baseless, as in there was no evidence of fraud provided. All the legal challenges by Trump's team were about process, not about fraud, as specifically stated by Giuliani.

Then why stop the audits or try to? There is only one answer. The election was stolen.

Democrats negotiated to keep the audit going. The election wasn't stolen.

Why would they need to negotiate if they did not have something to hide? If the election was fair no investigation should bother them.

Because they wanted the audit to follow the law.

Still, Democrats negotiated to keep the audit going. The election wasn't stolen. That's your logic. Enjoy.

That was the logic that made Trump guilty when he refused to show his taxes. The election officials have been doing the same thing. By your own standards they are guilty.

Nope, they are not since they negotiated to keep the audit going.

And the other states blocking audits like MI and GA and NH? They are not hiding things like Trump hid taxes? They are they are guilty. You have said as much. Why should Trump be judged any differently?

Georgia performed an audit. So no, nothing was blocked.

Historic First Statewide Audit Of Paper Ballots Upholds Result Of Presidential Race | Elections

So did Michigan.

Post-election audit report confirms accuracy and integrity of Michigan's election

The Michigan Bureau of Elections released its report today on the 250 post-election audits conducted across the state, affirming the accuracy and integrity of Michigan's November 2020 election.

www.michigan.gov

What about audits in Florida, Texas, Ohio, Indiana, Iowa, etc.... why no cry for that.

The companies that did the GA and AZ audits were connected to Dominion. They cannot be trusted. Dominion has yet to volunteer any information. They only threaten people. And again if you believe there was no fraud what possible harm could another audit do? Try a real answer for the last question.

So? You have no problem with a company that's not Voting System Test Laboratory (VSTL) accredited, has no experience auditing an election, is being run by "stop the steal" Trumplicans, is not allowing any media inside expect for "stop the steal" OANN, and even has a former GOP candidate whose name is on the ballot, reviewing ballots.

Companies which have tested Dominion systems in the past is nothing at all compared to that.

 

[Lastamender]

Nothing will ever convince the Trump cult that their Orange God lost.

That's what happens when you subsume your entire identity into a cult.

People just do not believe lies. Go figure.

yes, most Americans don't believe the lies of your Orange God and his rube cult

Too bad you do, snowflake

You people are the cult. You have elevated criminals to elites. The people that stole the election are criminals who you support.

 

[Faun]

The questions were baseless, as in there was no evidence of fraud provided. All the legal challenges by Trump's team were about process, not about fraud, as specifically stated by Giuliani.

Then why stop the audits or try to? There is only one answer. The election was stolen.

There were audits done in AZ already. How many are enough? Does anyone think a company with an agenda and a penchant for secrecy will answer anything?

Those audits were done by uncertified companies with ties to Dominion. They mean nothing. And if they are correct why the fuss? I have yet to get an answer for that.

Well that's not true. Both companies were Voting System Test Laboratory (VSTL) accredited.

Who cares, they work with Dominion. Again if there was no fraud what is the problem?

Well you should care since they were accredited despite your claim to the contrary. And their work with Dominion was limited to testing/checking/verifying their systems. That's not working "with" Dominion.

 

[Lastamender]

Only 16 people have been brought up on criminal charges for attempting to vote illegally. some of them are Republicans. Yet to many still promote the big lie. The lie that is endangering our Democracy.

That is more of an indictment of a failed, corrupted and broken election system more than it is a statement of our election integrity! To wit: a large bunch of leftwing orgs have ALREADY admitted to organizing to systematically effect a win for Biden over Trump, so it really is a moot point. They did not work to just get more people to vote, they worked specifically to get more people to vote BIDEN in order to ensure Trump WASN'T reelected. That is election rigging.

ELECTION 2020 is mud.

That is not election rigging that is how democracy is supposed to work, it is called a campaign. The GOP didn't work specifically to get more people to vote Trump in order to ensure Biden WASN'T elected?

Trump increased his total by 17%.
The only incumbent president in the past 150 years to increase in votes and still lose was Cleveland in 1888 and he won the popular vote.
Trump’s 17% increase is comparable to FDR’s 1936 second-run 22% increase and FDR won the electoral college by 523 - 8.

Trump is truly historic, you bet. So? Records stand until they are broken.

That’s no reply to my rebuttal.

I fail to see evidence for fraud in you rebuttal.

Then you’re hopelessly dishonest.

Anomalous data doesn't prove anything.

No, it just begs to be explained. Explanations require investigation. Investigations take money and time. Two days after the election, BEFORE any evidence was out, BEFORE any court trials, you and all of the Leftwing media were already dismissing the questions as already debunked, baseless (a conclusion) and attacking anyone just for asking.

No one could ever show what their conclusions were based on.

Then you called it a Trump conspiracy theory, anyone related to it was banned from FB, so finally a few hundred people went to Washington demanding answers.

And your response was to call them terrorists.

The questions were baseless, as in there was no evidence of fraud provided. All the legal challenges by Trump's team were about process, not about fraud, as specifically stated by Giuliani.

Then why stop the audits or try to? There is only one answer. The election was stolen.

Democrats negotiated to keep the audit going. The election wasn't stolen.

Why would they need to negotiate if they did not have something to hide? If the election was fair no investigation should bother them.

Because they wanted the audit to follow the law.

Still, Democrats negotiated to keep the audit going. The election wasn't stolen. That's your logic. Enjoy.

That was the logic that made Trump guilty when he refused to show his taxes. The election officials have been doing the same thing. By your own standards they are guilty.

Nope, they are not since they negotiated to keep the audit going.

And the other states blocking audits like MI and GA and NH? They are not hiding things like Trump hid taxes? They are they are guilty. You have said as much. Why should Trump be judged any differently?

Georgia performed an audit. So no, nothing was blocked.

Historic First Statewide Audit Of Paper Ballots Upholds Result Of Presidential Race | Elections

So did Michigan.

Post-election audit report confirms accuracy and integrity of Michigan's election

The Michigan Bureau of Elections released its report today on the 250 post-election audits conducted across the state, affirming the accuracy and integrity of Michigan's November 2020 election.

www.michigan.gov

What about audits in Florida, Texas, Ohio, Indiana, Iowa, etc.... why no cry for that.

The companies that did the GA and AZ audits were connected to Dominion. They cannot be trusted. Dominion has yet to volunteer any information. They only threaten people. And again if you believe there was no fraud what possible harm could another audit do? Try a real answer for the last question.

So? You have no problem with a company that's not Voting System Test Laboratory (VSTL) accredited, has no experience auditing an election, is being run by "stop the steal" Trumplicans, is not allowing any media inside expect for "stop the steal" OANN, and even has a former GOP candidate whose name is on the ballot, reviewing ballots.

Companies which have tested Dominion systems in the past is nothing at all compared to that.

This is now. What is that audit, and the ones after, going to find you are scared of? No fraud what could they possibly find. You people are guilty.

 

[Lastamender]

The questions were baseless, as in there was no evidence of fraud provided. All the legal challenges by Trump's team were about process, not about fraud, as specifically stated by Giuliani.

Then why stop the audits or try to? There is only one answer. The election was stolen.

There were audits done in AZ already. How many are enough? Does anyone think a company with an agenda and a penchant for secrecy will answer anything?

Those audits were done by uncertified companies with ties to Dominion. They mean nothing. And if they are correct why the fuss? I have yet to get an answer for that.

Well that's not true. Both companies were Voting System Test Laboratory (VSTL) accredited.

Who cares, they work with Dominion. Again if there was no fraud what is the problem?

Well you should care since they were accredited despite your claim to the contrary. And their work with Dominion was limited to testing/checking/verifying their systems. That's not working "with" Dominion.

It sure is when Dominion recommends them. You have lost another argument. One of many.

 

[Faun]

Only 16 people have been brought up on criminal charges for attempting to vote illegally. some of them are Republicans. Yet to many still promote the big lie. The lie that is endangering our Democracy.

That is more of an indictment of a failed, corrupted and broken election system more than it is a statement of our election integrity! To wit: a large bunch of leftwing orgs have ALREADY admitted to organizing to systematically effect a win for Biden over Trump, so it really is a moot point. They did not work to just get more people to vote, they worked specifically to get more people to vote BIDEN in order to ensure Trump WASN'T reelected. That is election rigging.

ELECTION 2020 is mud.

That is not election rigging that is how democracy is supposed to work, it is called a campaign. The GOP didn't work specifically to get more people to vote Trump in order to ensure Biden WASN'T elected?

Trump increased his total by 17%.
The only incumbent president in the past 150 years to increase in votes and still lose was Cleveland in 1888 and he won the popular vote.
Trump’s 17% increase is comparable to FDR’s 1936 second-run 22% increase and FDR won the electoral college by 523 - 8.

Trump is truly historic, you bet. So? Records stand until they are broken.

That’s no reply to my rebuttal.

I fail to see evidence for fraud in you rebuttal.

Then you’re hopelessly dishonest.

Anomalous data doesn't prove anything.

No, it just begs to be explained. Explanations require investigation. Investigations take money and time. Two days after the election, BEFORE any evidence was out, BEFORE any court trials, you and all of the Leftwing media were already dismissing the questions as already debunked, baseless (a conclusion) and attacking anyone just for asking.

No one could ever show what their conclusions were based on.

Then you called it a Trump conspiracy theory, anyone related to it was banned from FB, so finally a few hundred people went to Washington demanding answers.

And your response was to call them terrorists.

The questions were baseless, as in there was no evidence of fraud provided. All the legal challenges by Trump's team were about process, not about fraud, as specifically stated by Giuliani.

Then why stop the audits or try to? There is only one answer. The election was stolen.

Democrats negotiated to keep the audit going. The election wasn't stolen.

Why would they need to negotiate if they did not have something to hide? If the election was fair no investigation should bother them.

Because they wanted the audit to follow the law.

Still, Democrats negotiated to keep the audit going. The election wasn't stolen. That's your logic. Enjoy.

That was the logic that made Trump guilty when he refused to show his taxes. The election officials have been doing the same thing. By your own standards they are guilty.

Nope, they are not since they negotiated to keep the audit going.

And the other states blocking audits like MI and GA and NH? They are not hiding things like Trump hid taxes? They are they are guilty. You have said as much. Why should Trump be judged any differently?

Georgia performed an audit. So no, nothing was blocked.

Historic First Statewide Audit Of Paper Ballots Upholds Result Of Presidential Race | Elections

So did Michigan.

Post-election audit report confirms accuracy and integrity of Michigan's election

The Michigan Bureau of Elections released its report today on the 250 post-election audits conducted across the state, affirming the accuracy and integrity of Michigan's November 2020 election.

www.michigan.gov

What about audits in Florida, Texas, Ohio, Indiana, Iowa, etc.... why no cry for that.

The companies that did the GA and AZ audits were connected to Dominion. They cannot be trusted. Dominion has yet to volunteer any information. They only threaten people. And again if you believe there was no fraud what possible harm could another audit do? Try a real answer for the last question.

So? You have no problem with a company that's not Voting System Test Laboratory (VSTL) accredited, has no experience auditing an election, is being run by "stop the steal" Trumplicans, is not allowing any media inside expect for "stop the steal" OANN, and even has a former GOP candidate whose name is on the ballot, reviewing ballots.

Companies which have tested Dominion systems in the past is nothing at all compared to that.

This is now. What is that audit, and the ones after, going to find you are scared of? No fraud what could they possibly find. You people are guilty.

LOLOL

Shouldn't you get through this fraudit before moving on to your next?

 

[Faun]

The questions were baseless, as in there was no evidence of fraud provided. All the legal challenges by Trump's team were about process, not about fraud, as specifically stated by Giuliani.

Then why stop the audits or try to? There is only one answer. The election was stolen.

There were audits done in AZ already. How many are enough? Does anyone think a company with an agenda and a penchant for secrecy will answer anything?

Those audits were done by uncertified companies with ties to Dominion. They mean nothing. And if they are correct why the fuss? I have yet to get an answer for that.

Well that's not true. Both companies were Voting System Test Laboratory (VSTL) accredited.

Who cares, they work with Dominion. Again if there was no fraud what is the problem?

Well you should care since they were accredited despite your claim to the contrary. And their work with Dominion was limited to testing/checking/verifying their systems. That's not working "with" Dominion.

It sure is when Dominion recommends them. You have lost another argument. One of many.

Nope, that's still not working "with" Dominion. No more so than I work with a restaurant if I recommend one to you.

 

[Pellinore]

To start it would have to be a legitimate investigation. Not one by "Ninja's".

Truth is Truth and FACT ISN'T FACT? You would ignore FACTS because of who found the FACTS? Don't expect others to be picky about where the Truth comes from.

The Ninja's have no real oversight or transparency. If they held up a ballot and said it was unreadable who verified it, how did they do it, and how do we know it was unreadable BEFORE the Ninjas took over custody?

We know this could all be over with if the Democrats did not have something to hide.

It was over with long ago.

No it wasn't. You can repeat your lies until you are blue. It will never be over. The truth will come out.

Maybe the truth is out but you just refuse to admit it?

A pretty big maybe. It is a fact the Democrats do not want to prove there was no fraud. Hell, these auditors can do that for them. Why not let them? They are guilty as sin.

You can't prove a negative.

In fact, a demand to do so is one of the biggest ways to tell that the hill you're about to die on is, in fact, an utterly baseless conspiracy theory.

 

[Lastamender]

Only 16 people have been brought up on criminal charges for attempting to vote illegally. some of them are Republicans. Yet to many still promote the big lie. The lie that is endangering our Democracy.

That is more of an indictment of a failed, corrupted and broken election system more than it is a statement of our election integrity! To wit: a large bunch of leftwing orgs have ALREADY admitted to organizing to systematically effect a win for Biden over Trump, so it really is a moot point. They did not work to just get more people to vote, they worked specifically to get more people to vote BIDEN in order to ensure Trump WASN'T reelected. That is election rigging.

ELECTION 2020 is mud.

That is not election rigging that is how democracy is supposed to work, it is called a campaign. The GOP didn't work specifically to get more people to vote Trump in order to ensure Biden WASN'T elected?

Trump increased his total by 17%.
The only incumbent president in the past 150 years to increase in votes and still lose was Cleveland in 1888 and he won the popular vote.
Trump’s 17% increase is comparable to FDR’s 1936 second-run 22% increase and FDR won the electoral college by 523 - 8.

Trump is truly historic, you bet. So? Records stand until they are broken.

That’s no reply to my rebuttal.

I fail to see evidence for fraud in you rebuttal.

Then you’re hopelessly dishonest.

Anomalous data doesn't prove anything.

No, it just begs to be explained. Explanations require investigation. Investigations take money and time. Two days after the election, BEFORE any evidence was out, BEFORE any court trials, you and all of the Leftwing media were already dismissing the questions as already debunked, baseless (a conclusion) and attacking anyone just for asking.

No one could ever show what their conclusions were based on.

Then you called it a Trump conspiracy theory, anyone related to it was banned from FB, so finally a few hundred people went to Washington demanding answers.

And your response was to call them terrorists.

The questions were baseless, as in there was no evidence of fraud provided. All the legal challenges by Trump's team were about process, not about fraud, as specifically stated by Giuliani.

Then why stop the audits or try to? There is only one answer. The election was stolen.

Democrats negotiated to keep the audit going. The election wasn't stolen.

Why would they need to negotiate if they did not have something to hide? If the election was fair no investigation should bother them.

Because they wanted the audit to follow the law.

Still, Democrats negotiated to keep the audit going. The election wasn't stolen. That's your logic. Enjoy.

That was the logic that made Trump guilty when he refused to show his taxes. The election officials have been doing the same thing. By your own standards they are guilty.

Nope, they are not since they negotiated to keep the audit going.

And the other states blocking audits like MI and GA and NH? They are not hiding things like Trump hid taxes? They are they are guilty. You have said as much. Why should Trump be judged any differently?

Georgia performed an audit. So no, nothing was blocked.

Historic First Statewide Audit Of Paper Ballots Upholds Result Of Presidential Race | Elections

So did Michigan.

Post-election audit report confirms accuracy and integrity of Michigan's election

The Michigan Bureau of Elections released its report today on the 250 post-election audits conducted across the state, affirming the accuracy and integrity of Michigan's November 2020 election.

www.michigan.gov

What about audits in Florida, Texas, Ohio, Indiana, Iowa, etc.... why no cry for that.

The companies that did the GA and AZ audits were connected to Dominion. They cannot be trusted. Dominion has yet to volunteer any information. They only threaten people. And again if you believe there was no fraud what possible harm could another audit do? Try a real answer for the last question.

So? You have no problem with a company that's not Voting System Test Laboratory (VSTL) accredited, has no experience auditing an election, is being run by "stop the steal" Trumplicans, is not allowing any media inside expect for "stop the steal" OANN, and even has a former GOP candidate whose name is on the ballot, reviewing ballots.

Companies which have tested Dominion systems in the past is nothing at all compared to that.

This is now. What is that audit, and the ones after, going to find you are scared of? No fraud what could they possibly find. You people are guilty.

LOLOL

Shouldn't you get through this fraudit before moving on to your next?

MI and GA are going to demand them. The people are going to demand them. Biden is helping by turning this country into a fascist state. People are more than fed up already. The narrative you believe is a fairy tale.

 

[Faun]

Only 16 people have been brought up on criminal charges for attempting to vote illegally. some of them are Republicans. Yet to many still promote the big lie. The lie that is endangering our Democracy.

That is more of an indictment of a failed, corrupted and broken election system more than it is a statement of our election integrity! To wit: a large bunch of leftwing orgs have ALREADY admitted to organizing to systematically effect a win for Biden over Trump, so it really is a moot point. They did not work to just get more people to vote, they worked specifically to get more people to vote BIDEN in order to ensure Trump WASN'T reelected. That is election rigging.

ELECTION 2020 is mud.

That is not election rigging that is how democracy is supposed to work, it is called a campaign. The GOP didn't work specifically to get more people to vote Trump in order to ensure Biden WASN'T elected?

Trump increased his total by 17%.
The only incumbent president in the past 150 years to increase in votes and still lose was Cleveland in 1888 and he won the popular vote.
Trump’s 17% increase is comparable to FDR’s 1936 second-run 22% increase and FDR won the electoral college by 523 - 8.

Trump is truly historic, you bet. So? Records stand until they are broken.

That’s no reply to my rebuttal.

I fail to see evidence for fraud in you rebuttal.

Then you’re hopelessly dishonest.

Anomalous data doesn't prove anything.

No, it just begs to be explained. Explanations require investigation. Investigations take money and time. Two days after the election, BEFORE any evidence was out, BEFORE any court trials, you and all of the Leftwing media were already dismissing the questions as already debunked, baseless (a conclusion) and attacking anyone just for asking.

No one could ever show what their conclusions were based on.

Then you called it a Trump conspiracy theory, anyone related to it was banned from FB, so finally a few hundred people went to Washington demanding answers.

And your response was to call them terrorists.

The questions were baseless, as in there was no evidence of fraud provided. All the legal challenges by Trump's team were about process, not about fraud, as specifically stated by Giuliani.

Then why stop the audits or try to? There is only one answer. The election was stolen.

Democrats negotiated to keep the audit going. The election wasn't stolen.

Why would they need to negotiate if they did not have something to hide? If the election was fair no investigation should bother them.

Because they wanted the audit to follow the law.

Still, Democrats negotiated to keep the audit going. The election wasn't stolen. That's your logic. Enjoy.

That was the logic that made Trump guilty when he refused to show his taxes. The election officials have been doing the same thing. By your own standards they are guilty.

Nope, they are not since they negotiated to keep the audit going.

And the other states blocking audits like MI and GA and NH? They are not hiding things like Trump hid taxes? They are they are guilty. You have said as much. Why should Trump be judged any differently?

Georgia performed an audit. So no, nothing was blocked.

Historic First Statewide Audit Of Paper Ballots Upholds Result Of Presidential Race | Elections

So did Michigan.

Post-election audit report confirms accuracy and integrity of Michigan's election

The Michigan Bureau of Elections released its report today on the 250 post-election audits conducted across the state, affirming the accuracy and integrity of Michigan's November 2020 election.

www.michigan.gov

What about audits in Florida, Texas, Ohio, Indiana, Iowa, etc.... why no cry for that.

The companies that did the GA and AZ audits were connected to Dominion. They cannot be trusted. Dominion has yet to volunteer any information. They only threaten people. And again if you believe there was no fraud what possible harm could another audit do? Try a real answer for the last question.

So? You have no problem with a company that's not Voting System Test Laboratory (VSTL) accredited, has no experience auditing an election, is being run by "stop the steal" Trumplicans, is not allowing any media inside expect for "stop the steal" OANN, and even has a former GOP candidate whose name is on the ballot, reviewing ballots.

Companies which have tested Dominion systems in the past is nothing at all compared to that.

This is now. What is that audit, and the ones after, going to find you are scared of? No fraud what could they possibly find. You people are guilty.

LOLOL

Shouldn't you get through this fraudit before moving on to your next?

MI and GA are going to demand them. The people are going to demand them. Biden is helping by turning this country into a fascist state. People are more than fed up already. The narrative you believe is a fairy tale.

That remains to be seen. And who know what you mean by people are more than fed up? Biden's approval rating is some 10 points higher than Trump's

 

[Lastamender]

To start it would have to be a legitimate investigation. Not one by "Ninja's".

Truth is Truth and FACT ISN'T FACT? You would ignore FACTS because of who found the FACTS? Don't expect others to be picky about where the Truth comes from.

The Ninja's have no real oversight or transparency. If they held up a ballot and said it was unreadable who verified it, how did they do it, and how do we know it was unreadable BEFORE the Ninjas took over custody?

We know this could all be over with if the Democrats did not have something to hide.

It was over with long ago.

No it wasn't. You can repeat your lies until you are blue. It will never be over. The truth will come out.

Maybe the truth is out but you just refuse to admit it?

A pretty big maybe. It is a fact the Democrats do not want to prove there was no fraud. Hell, these auditors can do that for them. Why not let them? They are guilty as sin.

You can't prove a negative.

In fact, a demand to do so is one of the biggest ways to tell that the hill you're about to die on is, in fact, an utterly baseless conspiracy theory.

That looks more like a utterly baseless post.

 

[BlackSand]

A simple question: What, specifically, would change your mind regarding the legitimacy/illegitimacy of the 2020 election? Or, if a complete change is too much, what specifically would make you seriously question and reconsider your current view?

Is there anything? I've taken to asking this question around and been surprised to find that, despite the various calls for more investigations and audits, a great many people will openly declare that no conceivable findings could ever change their minds. Have our conclusions all become so absolute that they're immune to any possible evidence?

.

An Independent Third Party Compliance Audit conducted by Certified Compliance Auditors agreed upon by both parties.
Open Source Coding as far as vote tallying is concerned in regards to IT processes and equipment.
The elimination of any weighting, the use of fractions or decimals in the tally process, and a simple one vote equals one vote system.

The basic understanding that it doesn't matter how many times you count an illegitimate ballot, and come up with the same count, it's still an illegitimate ballot.
Corrective Action and Compliance statements regarding all findings, implementation of Corrective Measures, and ensured Follow-Up during subsequent elections.

The overall acceptance that we cannot correct a problem by not capturing our failures, and addressing the root cause of failure.
The understanding that a honest verifiable ballot cannot be achieved, by refusing to to make ballots verifiable by any means, or for any reason.
The forthright and aggressive prosecution of any findings that result in criminal culpability, or personnel dismissal regarding clear policy violations.


For those who doubt the election was flawed:
Even in a statistically perfect process or system, there are still three failures in a thousand.
If you want to suggest that the election was not corrupt, then you are simply saying you failed to identify the corruption that was most certainly present.

The question is not if the system failed,
but where did it fail, and how can we better prevent the same failures in the future?

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[toobfreak]

Those audits were done by uncertified companies with ties to Dominion. They mean nothing. And if they are correct why the fuss? I have yet to get an answer for that.

That is untrue.

TOO FUNNY! Your own link says that the audit isn't even looking at the ballots because the ballots are currently sealed!