What specific political goals/policies do you support or object to?

[whitehall]

Sick of checking off blocks of mostly democrat objectives? So am I. What Americans want is America first in foreign policy, cheap energy and a policy that makes young girls safe from confused boys in dresses.

 

[Foxfyre]

But what if a tariff is actually implemented? It sounds really good until you kinda drill down into the weeds. I believe the tariffs are essentially paid for by US consumers that have to pay a high price for the same thing and that is called inflation. Say my company/corporation makes a product at a $15 price but the same foreign product only costs $10. So Trump lays a tariff on the foreign product that now costs the same $15 or thereabouts. So, now my company gets more sales revenue, maybe. But where did that extra revenue come from? US consumers, who are now paying more for the same damn thing. A tariff takes away the choice for a consumer to spend $10 on the foreign product, now he/she has to spend an extra $5 for the same thing regardless of who made it. I kinda don't like that.

What I'm seeing in that scenario is a consumer that now has $5 less to spend on something else and that is not conducive to economic growth. So I'm not seeing a plus here for anybody except the US business that competes with the foreign business that got tariffed and the politicians that supported the tariff. Used to be the democrats loved tariffs to prop up the unions that supported them, what does that tell you? NOW - the other shoe that drops is the retaliation, right? The foreign gov't puts a tariff or some other protectionist policy on US exports to them, so there's a loss for us, right? So, the affected US businesses are hurt, and what can they do about it? Layoffs? Higher domestic sales prices? How is that good?

Threats to slap a tariff is basically extortion at a high level. Is that the best option? Can we not find other ways to level the playing field that does not expose US consumers to higher prices? History tells us that raising tariffs and other protectionist policies do not end well for anybody.

Your view is the traditional point of view of the establishment for quite some time now. But again, America has been everybody's whipping boy, sugar daddy, and taken advantage of by pretty much everybody for so long, and Trump accomplished so much to correct that with tariffs in his first term, I am more than happy for him to do it right again in a second term.

He was elected to not maintain a status quo but to think outside the box, be willing to do things differently, to do some trial and error to find better ways to do government. We should give him the chance to deliver on that.

 

[elektra]

Nevertheless California should have the right to be a wonderful state or a totally screwed up one. One price of liberty is the consequences of being wrong.

Well, you got a state driving inflation. The cost of food is skyrocketing, the cost you par for energy has for long periods of time been much higher than it should be.

In your opinion, the Government of a state has the right to directly effect the lives of other states.

 

[Moonglow]

I will ask everyone to leave issues of character and law breaking out of this discussion whether you are anti-Trump or anti-Biden/Harris or are coming from a different direction. Can we keep the trolling and insults to a minimum and concentrate on why we support what we support as actual or proposed policy?


Let's focus for a bit on actual policy and why we support it.

When will women get out of men's sports?

 

[Moonglow]

Your view is the traditional point of view of the establishment for quite some time now. But again, America has been everybody's whipping boy, sugar daddy, and taken advantage of by pretty much everybody for so long, and Trump accomplished so much to correct that with tariffs in his first term, I am more than happy for him to do it right again in a second term.

He was elected to not maintain a status quo but to think outside the box, be willing to do things differently, to do some trial and error to find better ways to do government. We should give him the chance to deliver on that.

The tariffs never went away during Biden.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You almost had me going there, ya lovable knucklehead.

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[Moonglow]

ALL Dem traitor scum should immediately report to prison for RAPING and MURDERING Americans with their goddamn filthy invasion of 15 million illegals. We are going to DEPORT those filth out of OUR country.

LATER!

 

[Moonglow]

The Founding Fathers intended for the Federal Government to remain small and restrained. The Founding Fathers were almost all Christian and held to Christian values. The Government should be responsible with funds gained from American taxpayers. Borders exist for a reason, and nobody should cross the borders unless and until they meet certain and specific criteria.

LGBTQ+Pedo folks should spend time in mental institutions and rehabilitated. They've turned their backs on God and the void left was filled by satanic ideas. They suffer from a spiritual illness as well as a mental one.

Tell that to the guy who bought the Louisiana Purchase.

 

[JWBooth]

What specific political goals/policies do you support or object to?​

 

[Moonglow]

Lincoln and the Civil War changed the role of the federal government, and then again in 1932, it was again changed, we became the richest, most powerful nation on the planet, and yous guys wanna bitch...you ingrates.

 

[g5000]

I will ask everyone to leave issues of character and law breaking out of this discussion whether you are anti-Trump or anti-Biden/Harris or are coming from a different direction. Can we keep the trolling and insults to a minimum and concentrate on why we support what we support as actual or proposed policy?


Let's focus for a bit on actual policy and why we support it.

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Read that, and then have a good laugh every time you see a Trumptard call me a liberal.

 

[Foxfyre]

Well, you got a state driving inflation. The cost of food is skyrocketing, the cost you par for energy has for long periods of time been much higher than it should be.

In your opinion, the Government of a state has the right to directly effect the lives of other states.

Each state is intended to be autonomous except that the federal government was authorized to regulate and legislate what is NECESSARY for the states to function as one nation and prevent the states from doing physical or economic violence to each other. If California products are too expensive, that only benefits south Texas, Florida, Mexico, Central and South America. If Californians cannot sell their products they will change their ways in a big hurry. The federal government is the worst entity in the world to try to micromanage what the private sector and free market does very well.

 

[Foxfyre]

G5000's Plan For Economic Prosperity And Better Cable Reception

Apparently some people are tragically confused about where I am on the political spectrum. So I thought I would consolidate my larger political beliefs into one topic and let the dice fall where they may. This OP will necessarily be long as I intend to point to it in the future when some fool...

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Read that, and then have a good laugh every time you see a Trumptard call me a liberal.

Maybe if you just summarized it? But this thread is not what anybody calls you but what policies you support. Did you participate in the poll?

 

[g5000]

Maybe if you just summarized it?

Policies cannot be bulletized.

That's the problem today. Social media has dumbed down our population to the intellectual bandwidth of a bumper sticker.

I outline my positions on abortion, tax reform, health care reform, and welfare reform in the OP of that topic.

But in this dumbed down society we now live in, a man can be elected promising to repeal and replace Obamacare without actually doing it.

People want a bumper sticker, not the actual solution.

 

[jwoodie]

I will ask everyone to leave issues of character and law breaking out of this discussion whether you are anti-Trump or anti-Biden/Harris or are coming from a different direction. Can we keep the trolling and insults to a minimum and concentrate on why we support what we support as actual or proposed policy?


Let's focus for a bit on actual policy and why we support it.

Why didn't you distinguish between legal and illegal "migrants?"

 

[Foxfyre]

Policies cannot be bulletized.

That's the problem today. Social media has dumbed down our population to the intellectual bandwidth of a bumper sticker.

I outline my positions on abortion, tax reform, health care reform, and welfare reform in the OP of that topic.

But in this dumbed down society we now live in, a man can be elected promising to repeal and replace Obamacare without actually doing it.

People want a bumper sticker, not the actual solution.

Candidates make definitive statements about what they will do if elected and don't bother to add all the qualifiers that have to be in place. Such as repealing Obamacare when that requires a vote of the House and Senate. The House and Senate did introduce bills to repeal the ACA and Trump would have signed it but all the Democrats, Independents and enough RINOs voted against it in the Senate to kill it. Trump did do as much as he could via executive order and that was enough to enable a great economy in all demographics.

 

[pknopp]

Candidates make definitive statements about what they will do if elected and don't bother to add all the qualifiers that have to be in place. Such as repealing Obamacare when that requires a vote of the House and Senate. The House and Senate did introduce bills to repeal the ACA and Trump would have signed it but all the Democrats, Independents and enough RINOs voted against it in the Senate to kill it. Trump did do as much as he could via executive order and that was enough to enable a great economy in all demographics.

If Trump hadn't been a dick, it gets overturned so Trump didn't do everything he could.

 

[Foxfyre]

Why didn't you distinguish between legal and illegal "migrants?"

There is no such thing as a 'legal migrant'. There are a very VERY few individuals who legitimately qualify for asylum and in the past those all came from a few designated countries. Economic hardship is not a qualification for asylum. People allowed to come because their homes are devastated by storms or earthquakes or whatever are expected to return to their home countries within a reasonably short time.

NONE who come in so they can get freebies and opportunities from the United States are legally entitled to asylum and for damn sure to even consider giving them a pathway to citizenship makes a mockery of our existing immigration laws. That should provoke distrust from everybody else on Earth. It also puts a huge flashing neon sign over America--ya'll come and if you make it here we'll give you all kinds of free stuff and allow you to stay forever.

 

[daveman]

Not in a way I would agree with.

You had your chance to have you say in the way things would be run.

The American people said they were done with business as usual.

 

[daveman]

So you are willing to be a dead beat. I disagree what is who we should be.

Deadbeats are responsible for the debts they incur.

I don't recall voting for trillions in debt.