The Shape Of Things To Come..........

What is the reason you Democrats insist on the 7th century barbarians have nukes?
Iran has no more nukes than Iraq did
But Republicans still play that card to fear monger the country into supporting their invasions
 
How better to judge Democrats than looking at what they intended, and the current situation in Iran
They don't make the world better or America better.

They were wrong about Stalin, “Uncle Joe” to FDR.

They were wrong about Reagan and the Cold War

They were wrong about the Soviet Union.

They were wrong about their precious “Abraham Lincoln Brigade,” in the Spanish Civil War, which the Soviet archives proves was a “rigidly controlled Soviet operation.”

They were wrong about Nicaragua, as Communist dictatorships in Latin America turned out not to be ‘inevitable revolutions’ after all.

They were wrong about welfare.

They were wrong about crime, as Giuliani’s success proved.

They were wrong about Social Security, which I now heading toward bankruptcy.

They were wrong about ditching our ally, the Shah of Iran, allowing him to be replaced by crazy ayatollahs.

Coulter
 
Obama and the western powers got Iran to give up their nuclear weapons program.

Trump said he could get a better deal and tore it up

Why Iran has a nuclear program today
The propaganda from the Progressive Socialist Communist controlled fifth column should have ramped up than if they gave up their nuke weapons programs.
 
You're right about OUR safety but, I think the point you are missing, is that for THEIR safety, if they had nukes we wouldn't dare touch them.
Totally disagree. If it were in our interest, we clean out North Korea. But it isn't.

Iran, on the other hand would completely terrorize the mid-east and would certainly send on to Tel-Aviv.
 
Elucidate

Just as the State Department advised Truman back in '48 we should stay out of the conflict between which of Abraham's sons are rightful heirs of the promise land, Isaac or his half-brother Ishmael. Much like we've stayed away from siding which is the proper heir of Muhammad that split the Sunni and Shia sects. And just as in the latter half of the 20th century our government took an impartial stance in Northern Ireland conflict between the Catholics and Protestants.
 
Just as the State Department advised Truman back in '48 we should stay out of the conflict between which of Abraham's sons are rightful heirs of the promise land, Isaac or his half-brother Ishmael. Much like we've stayed away from siding which is the proper heir of Muhammad that split the Sunni and Shia sects. And just as in the latter half of the 20th century our government took an impartial stance in Northern Ireland conflict between the Catholics and Protestants.
One can not remain impartial if they are a target of the enemy.
 
Just as the State Department advised Truman back in '48 we should stay out of the conflict between which of Abraham's sons are rightful heirs of the promise land, Isaac or his half-brother Ishmael. Much like we've stayed away from siding which is the proper heir of Muhammad that split the Sunni and Shia sects. And just as in the latter half of the 20th century our government took an impartial stance in Northern Ireland conflict between the Catholics and Protestants.
Wrong.

Truman cast the deciding vote to create Israel.


At midnight on May 14, 1948, the Provisional Government of Israel proclaimed the new State of Israel. On that same date the United States, in the person of President Truman, recognized the provisional Jewish government as de facto authority of the new Jewish state (de jure recognition was extended on January 31, 1949).



1948 May 14, 1948, shortly after 6:11 p.m. eastern standard time: United States representative to the United Nations Warren Austin leaves his office at the United Nations and goes home. Secretary of State Marshall sends a State Department official to the United Nations to prevent the entire United States delegation from resigning over recognizing Israel.


Due to Harry S. Truman, American.



My elucidation:

AI Overview



On May 14, 1948, shortly before 6:00 p.m. (Washington time/EST), President Harry S. Truman decided to recognize the newly proclaimed State of Israel immediately, a move that blindsided the U.S. delegation at the United Nations.

Key details surrounding this event include:
  • The Notification and Reaction: At roughly 5:45 p.m., Dean Rusk (then Director of the Office of Special Political Affairs) called U.S. Ambassador to the UN Warren Austin to inform him of the President's decision. Austin, who was in the middle of negotiating a different approach (a trusteeship) on the UN floor, was "furious and depressed" by the news.
  • Austin's Departure: After receiving the call, Austin made a personal decision not to return to the UN General Assembly floor to inform other members of the delegation. He chose to leave his office and go home, reportedly to make it clear that the action was a directive from President Truman in Washington and that the U.S. Delegation had not been playing a "double game".
  • Preventing Resignation: The decision was so controversial within the diplomatic ranks—as it reversed the State Department's preferred policy—that there was major friction. While the query suggests a specific official was sent, historical accounts indicate that the tension was managed by high-level communication (including Dean Rusk) and that Secretary of State George Marshall, despite his severe opposition to the move, advised against resigning on principle, saying, "You may resign at any time for any other reason but not that one".
  • Timing: The recognition was announced by the U.S. almost immediately after David Ben-Gurion proclaimed the independence of Israel at midnight in Palestine, which corresponded to 6:00 p.m. in Washington.
 
Just as the State Department advised Truman back in '48 we should stay out of the conflict between which of Abraham's sons are rightful heirs of the promise land, Isaac or his half-brother Ishmael. Much like we've stayed away from siding which is the proper heir of Muhammad that split the Sunni and Shia sects. And just as in the latter half of the 20th century our government took an impartial stance in Northern Ireland conflict between the Catholics and Protestants.
I wrote today's OP just for you.

 
Just as the State Department advised Truman back in '48 we should stay out

Truman cast the deciding vote to create Israel.

Sorry, I wasn't clearer about this war landing upon the feet of the Democrats as you previously stated. Yes, I knew the Democrat Harry Truman's policy that had the United States become the first country to recognize Israel back in 1948. It was the State Department who correctly predicted the mess that recognition would cause in taking sides between two feuding religions and recommended against that recognition.

 
Sorry, I wasn't clearer about this war landing upon the feet of the Democrats as you previously stated. Yes, I knew the Democrat Harry Truman's policy that had the United States become the first country to recognize Israel back in 1948. It was the State Department who correctly predicted the mess that recognition would cause in taking sides between two feuding religions and recommended against that recognition.

You mean like the "mess" when 13 colonies formed a new nation?????
 
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Criminal incompetence! Remind me again who negotiated the US withdrawal from Afghanistan and made no provision to get our military equipment back from the Afghan military?

The guy who carried out 80% of the troop withdrawal and adhering to all of our conditions in the Doha Accord agreement with the Taliban. It was hailed as our conditional withdrawal. Except Benedcict Donald didn't enforce hardly any of conditions the Taliban agreed to.


Over his last 11 months in office, President Trump ordered a series of drawdowns of U.S. troops. By June 2020, President Trump reduced U.S. troops in Afghanistan to 8,600. In September 2020, he directed a further draw down to 4,500. A month later, President Trump tweeted, to the surprise of military advisors, that the remaining U.S. troops in Afghanistan should be “home by Christmas!” On September 28, 2021, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Milley testified that, on November 11, he had received an unclassified signed order directing the U.S. military to withdraw all forces from Afghanistan no later than January 15, 2021. One week later, that order was rescinded and replaced with one to draw down to 2,500 troops by the same date.

During the transition from the Trump Administration to the Biden Administration, the outgoing Administration provided no plans for how to conduct the final withdrawal or to evacuate Americans and Afghan allies. Indeed, there were no such plans in place when President Biden came into office, even with the agreed upon full withdrawal just over three months away. As a result, when President Biden took office on January 20, 2021, the Taliban were in the strongest military position that they had been in since 2001, controlling or contesting nearly half of the country. At the same time, the United States had only 2,500 troops on the ground—the lowest number of troops in Afghanistan since 2001—and President Biden was facing President Trump’s near-term deadline to withdraw all U.S. forces from Afghanistan by May 2021, or the Taliban would resume its attacks on U.S. and allied troops.
 
The guy who carried out 80% of the troop withdrawal and adhering to all of our conditions in the Doha Accord agreement with the Taliban. It was hailed as our conditional withdrawal. Except Benedcict Donald didn't enforce hardly any of conditions the Taliban agreed to.


Over his last 11 months in office, President Trump ordered a series of drawdowns of U.S. troops. By June 2020, President Trump reduced U.S. troops in Afghanistan to 8,600. In September 2020, he directed a further draw down to 4,500. A month later, President Trump tweeted, to the surprise of military advisors, that the remaining U.S. troops in Afghanistan should be “home by Christmas!” On September 28, 2021, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Milley testified that, on November 11, he had received an unclassified signed order directing the U.S. military to withdraw all forces from Afghanistan no later than January 15, 2021. One week later, that order was rescinded and replaced with one to draw down to 2,500 troops by the same date.

During the transition from the Trump Administration to the Biden Administration, the outgoing Administration provided no plans for how to conduct the final withdrawal or to evacuate Americans and Afghan allies. Indeed, there were no such plans in place when President Biden came into office, even with the agreed upon full withdrawal just over three months away. As a result, when President Biden took office on January 20, 2021, the Taliban were in the strongest military position that they had been in since 2001, controlling or contesting nearly half of the country. At the same time, the United States had only 2,500 troops on the ground—the lowest number of troops in Afghanistan since 2001—and President Biden was facing President Trump’s near-term deadline to withdraw all U.S. forces from Afghanistan by May 2021, or the Taliban would resume its attacks on U.S. and allied troops.
So you still claim that Biden was correct in turning this over to the Taliban?




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the Taliban seized way more ScanEagle drones than the government is saying they did. There is no accounting on the number of crashed units.

Direct Quote from Report
“This also raises concerns about how NAVAIR justified procuring 105 ScanEagle vehicles totaling over $32 million and spare parts totaling over $52 million, and future planned procurements.”

This week, the SIGAR audit on the $174 million drone loss disappeared from its website. Here is the link that was removed.

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Here is a breakdown of estimated vehicle costs:

  • Armored personnel carriers such as the M113A2 cost $170,000 each and recent purchases of the M577A2 post carrier cost $333,333 each.
  • Mine resistant vehicles ranges from $412,000 to $767,000. The total cost could range between $382 million to $711 million.
  • Recovery vehicles such as the ‘truck, wrecker’ cost between for the base model $168,960 and $880,674 for super strength versions.
  • Medium range tactical vehicles include 5-ton cargo and general transport trucks were priced at $67,139. However, the family of MTV heavy vehicleshad prices ranging from $235,500 to $724,820 each. Cargo trucks to transport airplanes cost $800,865.
  • Humvees – ambulance type (range from $37,943 to $142,918 with most at $96,466); cargo type, priced at $104,682. Utility Humvees were typically priced at $91,429. However, the 12,000 lb. troop transport version cost up to $329,000.
  • Light tactical vehicles: Fast attack combat vehicles ($69,400); and passenger motor vehicles ($65,500). All terrain 4-wheel vehicles go up to $42,273 in the military databases.

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Wrong.

Truman cast the deciding vote to create Israel.
Nobody voted to create the Nation of Israel. Israelis created their nation through the force of Arms like most all nations. Ever since the UN General Assembly, in a non binding resolution in 1947, approved the Partition Plan, Palestine was in a virtual state of war between the Jewish forces and the other non Jewish occupants of the region.

Truman was the first to recognize them after the Brits quit their Mandate for Palestine.

I don't believe Truman supplied them with weapons.
 
So you still claim that Biden was correct in turning this over to the Taliban?
You've been busted on those lies many times. The US military was in charge of all the withdrawals under both Trump and Biden. In their sworn testimony they said they always degraded the equipment that was being left behind. This was true for the more than 10,000 troops that Benedict withdrew in 2020, as well as the 2,500 that Biden removed at the end of the war. The only equipment the Taliban captured was the equipment we, the tax payers, gave our allies the Afghan Army to defend themselves with against the Taliban.
 
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