What Percentage of USMB Posters are Mentally and Emotionally Well?

[Foxfyre]

No, putting food on their table is what motivates people to work. Why work when they can have the government do it for them?

Benjamin Franklin's observation on that is just as relevant and true today as it was in 1766:

". . .This operates then as a tax for the maintenance of the poor. A very good thing, you will say. But I ask, Why a partial tax? Why laid on us Farmers only? If it be a good thing, pray, Messrs. the Public, take your share of it, by indemnifying us a little out of your public treasury. In doing a good thing there is both honour and pleasure; you are welcome to your part of both.

For my own part, I am not so well satisfied of the goodness of this thing. I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth I travelled much, and I observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. . ."
--On the Price of Corn and Management of the Poor, Poor Richard's Almanac--Benjamin Franklin, November 29, 1766.

This should make for a reasoned and interesting discussion on how best to help the poor. Most modern day leftists would be incapable of such a discussion but would accuse Franklin or anybody else who considered such a theory as 'hating the poor' or 'benefitting only the rich' or some such while they promote 'tax the rich' or leveling the economic field in the interest of 'equality' or some such and demonize any who disagree with them. Or they will try to derail the discussion with something entirely irrelevant.

In my opinion, that mindset of the left is not how happy, intelligent, capable, well balanced people think.

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[1srelluc]

Given your post count, you’ve taken up residency here.

The accommodations are fine but some of the "neighbors" leave a lot to be desired.

 

[sparky]

". . .This operates then as a tax for the maintenance of the poor. A very good thing, you will say. But I ask, Why a partial tax? Why laid on us Farmers only?

if i may FF........farmers are one with earth and nature , we are often blessed with a largess from both......yet at the same time monetarily 'poor'

anecdotally , i literally got a raise going on SS .......how many folks can say that? I also qualify for many many social handouts.......which i have no interest in

see.....i live like a king on my farm .....it's paradise........

~S~

 

[JOSweetHeart]

This place will make you nutty if you spend too much time on here. Folks would benefit from getting a job and spending more time in the real world.

I don't know about everyone else here, but I have job which is one place that I already see a good enough deal of the real world.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

 

[Hafar1014]

Anyone who spreads lies and misinformation encouraging people to not vaccinate is hoping that they die.

A truly evil person

Yes, I trust science more than an idiot spreading lies on the internet

40% of all scientific research is invalid keep that in mind

 

[Hafar1014]

Low cost labor doing menial tasks we rely on

Thats how we start working I was a busboy for 1.00 an hour and 10% of the tips. Bought a Fender Jazz master joined a group and made money on weekends.

 

[Hafar1014]

They cant vote and the immigrants end up in as many red states as blue states so I am not following your line of attack.

They do vote and its enough to change a local election. The go to sanctuary cities in blue states. The plan is to offset population lost in the next census. Thats not going to happen now. Democrats will lose over 12 seats in the house the GOP will gain them.

 

[Hellbilly]

These days I come here to see how low MAGA will go to defend trump.
We’re down to public executions of American citizens

 

[rightwinger]

They do vote and it’s enough to change a local election. The go to sanctuary cities in blue states. The plan is to offset population lost in the next census. Thats not going to happen now. Democrats will lose over 12 seats in the house the GOP will gain them.

Non citizens don’t vote

 

[citygator]

They do vote and its enough to change a local election. The go to sanctuary cities in blue states. The plan is to offset population lost in the next census. Thats not going to happen now. Democrats will lose over 12 seats in the house the GOP will gain them.

They don’t vote. What are you talking about?

 

[Hafar1014]

They don’t vote. What are you talking about?

They have been found on voter roles all over the country. IN some states all they need is drivers license. Ohio uncovered 1500 who have voted for years. Whey do you think democrats oppose voter ID

 

[citygator]

They have been found on voter roles all over the country. IN some states all they need is drivers license. Ohio uncovered 1500 who have voted for years. Whey do you think democrats oppose voter ID

This claim is false. States occasionally find small numbers of noncitizens who were incorrectly added to voter rolls, usually DMV errors, but almost none vote. A driver’s license is not enough to register; citizenship attestation is required everywhere. Ohio did not find 1500 undocumented people voting. Recent audits flagged around 137 possible registrations and only a handful of actual votes. Even Ohio’s Republican secretary of state has said repeatedly that noncitizen voting is extremely rare. There’s no evidence of widespread noncitizen voting anywhere in the U.S.

Right wingers keep saying it happens because it’s politically useful and emotionally satisfying, not because it’s true. Tiny clerical errors get spun into huge conspiracies, right-wing media repeats them endlessly, and it gives people a way to explain losses without admitting their side was unpopular. Audits consistently show noncitizen voting is vanishingly rare, but the myth sticks because it reinforces identity and justifies restrictive voting laws.

https://www.ohiosos.gov/media-center/press-releases/2024/2024-05-14a

 

[Hafar1014]

This claim is false. States occasionally find small numbers of noncitizens who were incorrectly added to voter rolls—usually DMV errors—but almost none vote. A driver’s license is not enough to register; citizenship attestation is required everywhere. Ohio did not find 1500 undocumented people voting—recent audits flagged around 137 possible registrations and only a handful of actual votes. Even Ohio’s Republican secretary of state has said repeatedly that noncitizen voting is extremely rare. There’s no evidence of widespread noncitizen voting anywhere in the U.S.

Right wingers keep saying it happens because it’s politically useful and emotionally satisfying, not because it’s true. Tiny clerical errors get spun into huge conspiracies, right-wing media repeats them endlessly, and it gives people a way to explain losses without admitting their side was unpopular. Audits consistently show noncitizen voting is vanishingly rare, but the myth sticks because it reinforces identity and justifies restrictive voting laws.

They vote, democrats look the other way and they can change the outcome of a local elections. We dont know the exact number but its more than we thought.
They were also counted in the last census giving democrats seats they should not have had. Thats all being fixed now

 

[Foxfyre]

if i may FF........farmers are one with earth and nature , we are often blessed with a largess from both......yet at the same time monetarily 'poor'

anecdotally , i literally got a raise going on SS .......how many folks can say that? I also qualify for many many social handouts.......which i have no interest in

see.....i live like a king on my farm .....it's paradise........

~S~

Well in truth, I grew up around farmers as neighbors and family and, except for the sharecroppers that Hombre descended from, none were monetarily poor though most stayed in perpetual debt.

But I hear you and appreciate what you are saying. Of course the farmers aka land owners WERE the rich in Ben Franklin's time. Economic dynamics change over the centuries. But for the most part, basic values and principles don't.

 

[citygator]

They vote, democrats look the other way and they can change the outcome of a local elections. We dont know the exact number but its more than we thought.
They were also counted in the last census giving democrats seats they should not have had. Thats all being fixed now

Again. You are making stuff up and I am citing the right wing nuts in Ohio who gave the data, Secretary of State, showing they suspected maybe 138 voters but couldn’t prove it. They said they would bring a handful of cases which has totaled 6 over 12 years. 6 in all of Ohio in more than a decade. All 6 are legal green card non-citizens not illegals immigrants.

 

[Hafar1014]

Again. You are making stuff up and I am citing the right wing nuts in Ohio who gave the data, Secretary of State, showing they suspected maybe 138 voters but couldn’t prove it. They said they would bring a handful of cases which has totaled 6 over 12 years. 6 in all of Ohio in more than a decade. All 6 are legal green card non-citizens not illegals immigrants.

So what bribes did they take that you know about. They told you right

 

[rightwinger]

They don’t vote. What are you talking about?

He is regurgitating RW fantasies that illegals are storming the polls

 

[citygator]

So what bribes did they take that you know about. They told you right

You suggested not needing money was enough to rule out the motivation for bribes. I explained needing money is never the motivation for billionaires. Therefore your base position is wrong. Suck it.

 

[rightwinger]

They vote, democrats look the other way and they can change the outcome of a local elections. We dont know the exact number but its more than we thought.
They were also counted in the last census giving democrats seats they should not have had. Thats all being fixed now

Try 0

 

[sparky]

We’re down to public executions of American citizens

excuse me....? ~S~