What makes someone a “Conservative”?

[Toddsterpatriot]

Start here:

"1. A private bank is granted the right to create money"

Fed critics point out commercial banks are required to hold stock in their regional Federal Reserve Bank and these private banks receive dividends.

Ownership equals control; hence, the Fed serves banking interests.

Do you agree?

The Unbroken Thread: Debt, War, and the Normalization of Elite Power (1694-2026)

Ownership equals control;

Not in this case.

The Fed is not a for-profit corporation in the traditional sense; its residual earnings are remitted to the U.S. Treasury after covering operating expenses and statutory dividends. All nationally chartered commercial banks are legally required to be members of the Federal Reserve System. They must hold stock in their respective regional Federal Reserve Bank.

This mandatory stock ownership is fundamentally different from holding equity in a publicly traded company. The stock is non-transferable, cannot be sold on the open market, and does not confer typical shareholder rights, such as control or a claim on the Fed’s assets. Member banks with assets over $10 billion receive a dividend rate equal to the lesser of 6% or the current 10-year Treasury auction rate, while smaller banks receive a fixed 6% dividend.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Those are felonies, just much fewer per capita than citizens.

Every single illegal alien working in the US who doesn't pay income and payroll taxes is committing a felony.

Every single illegal alien working in the US who does pay income and payroll taxes with a stolen SS number is committing a felony.

That's at a much, much higher rate than citizens.

 

[georgephillip]

1. A private bank is granted the right to create money

1. A government owned bank is granted the right to create money

2. The government borrows that money into existence

2. Everyone borrows money into existence

Who gets rich from that system?

Do you see any alternatives?

"Alternatives to debt-based money creation (where commercial banks create money via loans) involve government-issued, debt-free currency, such as Sovereign Money (central bank creation), Modern Monetary Theory (MMT) frameworks, and community-driven currencies.

"These methods aim to fund public spending or stimulate the real economy directly without accumulating interest-bearing debt."

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[Ghost of a Rider]

Excellent! We're agreed MAGAts aren't conservative.

You misunderstand. I said I never claimed they were conservative and I said that because you seemed to think I did. But I also never claimed they weren't either.

In order to understand what someone means when they ask "what is a conservative" or "what is a liberal", it's best to have something to contrast it against. This is standard figure-field psychological perception.

Therefore, if we want to discuss "What makes someone a conservative" it's important to contrast the "conservative" against MAGAtry, Leftists and other parts of the political spectrum.

As the chart below displays, Libertarians are further right than "conservatism" but MAGAts are "Alt-Right" AKA fascists.

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I don't have much interest political science or where one falls on the political spectrum. I will say that Trump and MAGA do not fall as close to fascism as a lot of people think. Trump was duly elected and in two years he will be gone.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

I did not say it justified Trumper open borders. A misdemeanor is not a criminal charge in the sense you would like it to mean.

It’s not a misdemeanor if you try to come back in a 2nd time

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Start here:

"1. A private bank is granted the right to create money"

Fed critics point out commercial banks are required to hold stock in their regional Federal Reserve Bank and these private banks receive dividends.

Ownership equals control; hence, the Fed serves banking interests.

Do you agree?

The Unbroken Thread: Debt, War, and the Normalization of Elite Power (1694-2026)

No

Unless there is collusion among banks. Can you prove there is collusion?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Who gets rich from that system?

Do you see any alternatives?

"Alternatives to debt-based money creation (where commercial banks create money via loans) involve government-issued, debt-free currency, such as Sovereign Money (central bank creation), Modern Monetary Theory (MMT) frameworks, and community-driven currencies.

"These methods aim to fund public spending or stimulate the real economy directly without accumulating interest-bearing debt."

GoogleAI Overview

If you don't want to borrow money, don't.

Modern Monetary Theory (MMT) frameworks

Yeah, just printing money always works out so well.

Like in Venezuela and Zimbabwe.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Those are felonies, just much fewer per capita than citizens.

It would be zero from illegals if they weren’t here and we could allocate resources to thieving liberal citizens

 

[Crepitus]

What makes someone a “Conservative”?​

Most often intense gullibility combined with a lower than average IQ.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Most often intense gullibility combined with a lower than average IQ.

Hope and Change, eh cretin?

 

[Crepitus]

Hope and Change, eh cretin?

I have little hope any of you will change, Kiddo. Most of you are far to old to learn critical thinking at this point.

 

[IM2]

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None of that is true. Todays right wing is upholding things that fit the exact definition of fascism.

 

[georgephillip]

Yes, a lender of last resort comports with my views.

A lender of last resort that bails out the commercial paper market or defrauded homebuyers?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Most often intense gullibility combined with a lower than average IQ.

Happy to compare IQs

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

I did not say it justified Trumper open borders. A misdemeanor is not a criminal charge in the sense you would like it to mean.

A misdemeanor is still breaking the law. Shoplifting is a misdemeanor but when shoplifters are caught, they're still prosecuted accordingly. There's no reason to think illegal immigrants should be treated differently.

Add to that, criminals are committing the misdemeanor to come here illegally to then commit felonies. For that reason and that reason alone, we need to pay more attention to border and illegal immigration.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

A lender of last resort that bails out the commercial paper market or defrauded homebuyers?

Again, not following your complaints or train of thought.

 

[IM2]

Non profit leech. Figures.

More ignorant white right wing idiocy.

Non pofit perform things that are helpful to society without asking for a profit. The leeches are the for-profit businesses that take in millions but ask for government subsidies, tax abatements, TIFFS, and other ways to not paying you fair share. I worked in Not for Profits and paid taxes on my income, while leeches like you and Trump got tax abatements an use every way you can find to not pay taxes then have the nerve to call somebody else a leech.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

More ignorant white right wing idiocy.

Non pofit perform things that are helpful to society without asking for a profit. The leeches are the for-profit businesses that take in millions but ask for government subsidies, tax abatements, TIFFS, and other ways to not paying you fair share. I worked in Not for Profits and paid taxes on my income, while leeches like you and Trump got tax abatements an use every way you can find to not pay taxes then have the nerve to call somebody else a leech.

Man, this poster still trolling my thread and playing his frequently declined race card. Do you have another form of argument?

 

[MarathonMike]

3. Hypocrisy

Calling for hearing on Biden receiving $200k repayment of a loan to his brother while Trump fleeces the US is conservative.

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You conveniently forget about the Biden network of 20 Shell LLCs setup to launder the tens of millions they pocketed from the CCP, Ukraine and other foreign entities. Oh yeah and the LLCs had ZERO EMPLOYEES and ZERO PRODUCTS.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Conservative is essentially a metaphor for American.
Progressive or democrat means communist or anti-American.