What makes someone a “Conservative”?

[Ghost of a Rider]

Conservative policies involve keeping the downtrodden down but just high enough to keep depending on businesses and voting for you.

It's been my experience that the downtrodden usually trod themselves down.

If a person is in dire straits through no fault of their own, by all means, give them a leg up. But most find themselves downtrodden because of their own choices.

 

[candycorn]

Every conservative or just the famous ones you see on TV? So JD Vance does all this? Vivek?

Link please

Did you vote for the blob knowing full well he paid for sex from a porn star? Yes.
Did you vote for the blob knowing full well he ran a fake charity? Yes.
Did you vote for the blob knowing full well he cheated on every wife he's ever had? Yes.

Do you call yourself a conservative? Yes.

Thusly conservatives embrace paying for sex, running fake charity, cheating on your wife.

Is this, in any way, unclear?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Did you vote for the blob knowing full well he paid for sex from a porn star? Yes.
Did you vote for the blob knowing full well he ran a fake charity? Yes.
Did you vote for the blob knowing full well he cheated on every wife he's ever had? Yes.

Do you call yourself a conservative? Yes.

Thusly conservatives embrace paying for sex, running fake charity, cheating on your wife.

Is this, in any way, unclear?

When did I call myself a conservative? Find that post

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Did you vote for the blob knowing full well he paid for sex from a porn star? Yes.
Did you vote for the blob knowing full well he ran a fake charity? Yes.
Did you vote for the blob knowing full well he cheated on every wife he's ever had? Yes.

Do you call yourself a conservative? Yes.

Thusly conservatives embrace paying for sex, running fake charity, cheating on your wife.

Is this, in any way, unclear?

Blob? I never Voted for your twin, Katie Porter.

 

[Divine Wind]

I literally said it’s my opinion and this is an opinion forum. Can you not read?

And I gave you my opinion: I support Barry Goldwater's view of conservatism, not the neo-nazi white nationalist BS. I'm sorry it upset you.

Are you a Christian? Matthew 13 might help you: Bible Gateway passage: Matthew 13 - King James Version

 

[jacksonlamb]

What are yours?

You don't know what yours are, yet you want me to define mine?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

And I gave you my opinion: I support Barry Goldwater's view of conservatism, not the neo-nazi white nationalist BS. I'm sorry it upset you.

Are you a Christian? Matthew 13 might help you: Bible Gateway passage: Matthew 13 - King James Version

I am Jewish. My gut tells me you’re a dumbass who can’t read. It’s OK to disagree it’s not Ok to be a sanctimonious asshole

 

[jacksonlamb]

Since Democrats promote unions, where is the union over the Democrats party?

????

 

[jacksonlamb]

Irrelevant. Who commits more crimes is not the point. The point is that it makes zero sense, given the level of crime we already have, to import more criminals from other countries. And before you say it, no, I know that only a minority of the illegals are criminals or potential criminals. But if we had a more secure border and devised a more stringent asylum and immigration process for more in-depth vetting, perhaps Laken Riley, Jocelyn Nungaray, et al. might still be alive.

We can at least do that much if it means fewer murder victims, can't we?

Absolutely relevant. Citizens are more criminal than illegals.

 

[jacksonlamb]

It's been my experience that the downtrodden usually trod themselves down.

If a person is in dire straits through no fault of their own, by all means, give them a leg up. But most find themselves downtrodden because of their own choices.

Alcohol or drugs, sure. But that is not the majority or a large minority of them. You would be unable to quantify that to your satisfaction.

 

[Robert W]

We said the same thing. You agree they are not conservatives.

He said, why don't you tell the truth, and you said you and he said the same thing.

 

[candycorn]

When did I call myself a conservative? Find that post

So you're not a conservative. Fine. My sincere apologies.

But the 70/80M who voted for him---those that call themselves conservatives---embrace those aforementioned values.

 

[Divine Wind]

It's been my experience that the downtrodden usually trod themselves down.

If a person is in dire straits through no fault of their own, by all means, give them a leg up. But most find themselves downtrodden because of their own choices.

That vast majority of that is stupidity (genetics), ignorance (education) and/or mental illness.

2/3s of those arrested at 1/6 not only had severe financial problems, but also had previously reported mental health issues. Ashli Babbit had both.

IMHO, it's a matter of national security that Americans are healthy, educated and mentally sound.


Mental Illness Insurrection
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/q...ntal-health-not-radical-extremism-11616703136
In court records of people arrested in the wake of the Jan. 6 Capitol insurrection, 68% reported they had received mental health diagnoses

Q anon arrested insurrection capitol riot mental illness
https://www.start.umd.edu/pubs/START_PIRUS_QAnon_Feb2021.pdf

A majority of the people arrested for Capitol riot had a history of financial trouble
https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...surrectionists-jenna-ryan-financial-problems/
A majority of the people arrested for Capitol riot had a history of financial trouble
Trail of bankruptcies, tax problems and bad debts raises questions for researchers trying to understand motivations for attack
Nearly 60 percent of the people facing charges related to the Capitol riot showed signs of prior money troubles, including bankruptcies, notices of eviction or foreclosure, bad debts, or unpaid taxes over the past two decades, according to a Washington Post analysis of public records for 125 defendants with sufficient information to detail their financial histories.

 

[jacksonlamb]

That is truly sad.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

So you're not a conservative. Fine. My sincere apologies.

But the 70/80M who voted for him---those that call themselves conservatives---embrace those aforementioned values.

As I explained to many here: choice was binary and the alternative was unthinkable

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

That is truly sad.

What is your life? Is like a Jeopardy game?

 

[Lockback]

As I explained to many here: choice was binary and the alternative was unthinkable

 

[Divine Wind]

So you're not a conservative. Fine. My sincere apologies.

But the 70/80M who voted for him---those that call themselves conservatives---embrace those aforementioned values.

A slight disagreement. Only about 30% of voters are Republicans. Same for Democrats. The other 40+% are Independents like myself. I've voted a straight Libertarian ticket since 2014 but most Independents vote for one major party or the other. That's why GW called them "the deciders".

8 Myths about Independent Voters | Independent Center

The Independent Center busts 8 common myths about voting as an independent.

www.independentcenter.org

Myth #6: Independent voters don't vote.​

FACT: Not only do independents vote, they decide elections. They vote at twice the rate of partisans. Exit polling from the 2024 presidential election shows that independent participation outnumbered Democrats by 3 points and fell 1 point shy of Republican turnout. To borrow from George W. Bush, independent voters are the 'deciders.'

 

[sparky]

So it's 'kick a conservative' day @ USMB now?....... ~S~

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

A slight disagreement. Only about 30% of voters are Republicans. Same for Democrats. The other 40+% are Independents like myself. I've voted a straight Libertarian ticket since 2014 but most Independents vote for one major party or the other. That's why GW called them "the deciders".

8 Myths about Independent Voters | Independent Center

The Independent Center busts 8 common myths about voting as an independent.

www.independentcenter.org

Myth #6: Independent voters don't vote.​

FACT: Not only do independents vote, they decide elections. They vote at twice the rate of partisans. Exit polling from the 2024 presidential election shows that independent participation outnumbered Democrats by 3 points and fell 1 point shy of Republican turnout. To borrow from George W. Bush, independent voters are the 'deciders.'

You’re straight confusing me