What makes one Conservative?

Not this shit again.

It's not shit, it's psychology. Aren't you interested in why people are so wedded to their ideology? If you knew the dogs would always kill the cats, no matter what you did, wouldn't you keep them apart?

I used to be fairly conservative up until about 12 years ago and then had my eyes opened by someone in a position to know just what kind of shit Bush and Cheney were pulling on America with Iraq and Afghanistan. Then the Patriot Act and letting Wall Street go wild with the mortgage industry left me in shock.

So fine, 2004 and time to dump his ass. HELL NO, the idiots REELECTED HIM! Based on lies about a second attack on domestic soil by Al Queda.

I was done right then and there.
 
If you don't find this hot, you are too conservative:
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I do not find this hot, thus, I must be a conservative, thank you.
 
Declare them "Mentally Ill" so they can be marginalized, controlled and most importantly, medicated and disarmed.


That is all part of the plan. Amazing how many are ignorant of the Cloward-Piven strategy or Alinsky's Rules for Radicals.

I'd like to know why the left is so hellbent on bringing in socialism or communism given the history of failure for both ideologies. Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results each time is the definition of insanity. Where are the studies on that?

I am likely to fall under the 'conservative' label when it comes to fiscal matters. Some people could pull their own weight, but don't. I approve of capitalism, but not the crony capitalism that politicians have created and that goes for both sides. The left is just as bad so doesn't have the right to preach to others on that one.

I suppose the 'liberal' label would describe my views on gays, though I don't like any labels. No one I know fits perfectly into the current 'groups.'

The Republicans were always about freeing the slaves and equal rights and history backs that up. Now we see history being rewritten. It's disgusting.

There is more than one way to enslave a person, either by force or coercion. Welfare and the promise of government taking care of you is coercion. It's like encouraging people into a lifeboat, then continuing to sail further out to sea. You tell them they are free to jump out anytime and swim to shore on their own, but it gets harder every minute until it becomes impossible. People often alter behavior to get on the doles. Then they fail to take steps to improve their lot in life while on welfare because they believe promises from politicians who say they'll make their lives better. Before they know it, they've waited too long and it's nearly impossible for them to break the chains of dependence.

Conservatives know that people can do more for themselves than government can. The left says that the right will take away government aid and cause people to starve. The reason the latter message is believed is because people bought into the notion that they don't stand a chance in hell of surviving on their own because of race or gender. They are too far out to sea on that little boat and are trapped. I think the Republicans should be clearer in their message about how they intend to help people find independence. People need training to find a good job and they need to be slowly weened off welfare. No jumping in cold without help. The left understands the fear many have about leaving the liberal plantation and they constantly play on that.

An honest study would look at the mindset of those who are 5th generation welfare and talk about what it will take for some to take the reigns of their own lives. But, Alinsky and his ilk warn against educating people with the truth. It's all about indoctrination, propaganda and playing one group against another. A lot of myths have to stay alive for that to happen. Money and media, or more accurately, the money behind the media, are the means to control. That is what the left is all about. People like the Koch brothers or FOX news are the biggest threat to the left's money and power, so they constantly ridicule them and vilify them in hopes people will dismiss their message.

Several liberal reporters have quit because they were tired of being told to ignore facts, exaggerate things and outright lie to make the administration look good. The orders came from the top. Super wealthy who own the media dictate the propaganda and they hire reporters who seem likable and are willing to take orders. I am glad some are bucking the system, even though the media is quick to ridicule and marginalize them.
 
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This is exceptionally idiotic...even for Paint My House...
 
Something a bit more interesting than what's being posted today, although I'm using that term "conservative" loosely since nearly all here aren't conservative, they're Reactionary.


Scientists Discover the Fascinating Psychological Reason Why Conservatives AreÂ…Conservative
Right-wing ideology is tailored to a particular psychological profile.

A large body of political scientists and political psychologists now concur that liberals and conservatives disagree about politics in part because they are different people at the level of personality, psychology, and even traits like physiology and genetics.

That's a big deal. It challenges everything that we thought we knew about politics—upending the idea that we get our beliefs solely from our upbringing, from our friends and families, from our personal economic interests, and calling into question the notion that in politics, we can really change (most of us, anyway).

The occasion of this revelation is a paper by John Hibbing of the University of Nebraska and his colleagues, arguing that political conservatives have a "negativity bias," meaning that they are physiologically more attuned to negative (threatening, disgusting) stimuli in their environments.
(The paper can be read for free here.) In the process, Hibbing et al. marshal a large body of evidence, including their own experiments using eye trackers and other devices to measure the involuntary responses of political partisans to different types of images. One finding? That conservatives respond much more rapidly to threatening and aversive stimuli (for instance, images of "a very large spider on the face of a frightened person, a dazed individual with a bloody face, and an open wound with maggots in it," as one of their papers put it).

Scientists Discover the Fascinating Psychological Reason Why Conservatives Are?Conservative | Alternet

So-called "political scientists" are scientists, and for the most part neither are psychologists. The former is 100% quack and the later is about 95% quack.
 
Alternet. That's a big fail right there.

What makes someone conservative? Knowledge, intelligence,maturity.
What makes someone liberal? Lack of those things.

We see it here every day. Liberals throw boatloads of erroneous "facts" and logical fallacies along with emotional arguments and conservatives respond with logic and facts.
 
Holy cow! Call Oslo immediately! Scientists have discovered that there are people who are not French!

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If we are talking about REAL conservatism, it is rooted in a concern about democratic excesses. However, what is licentiously called "conservatism" these days, is not:

"how can any man claim under the conventions of civil society rights which do not so much as suppose its existence—rights which are absolutely repugnant to it? One of the first motives to civil society, and which becomes one of its fundamental rules, is that no man should be judge in his own cause. By this each person has at once divested himself of the first fundamental right of uncovenanted man, that is, to judge for himself and to assert his own cause. He abdicates all right to be his own governor. He inclusively, in a great measure, abandons the right of self-defense, the first law of nature. Men cannot enjoy the rights of an uncivil and of a civil state together."
-- Edmund Burke; from 'Reflections on the Revolution in France' (1790)
 
Alternet. That's a big fail right there.

What makes someone conservative? Knowledge, intelligence,maturity.
What makes someone liberal? Lack of those things.

We see it here every day. Liberals throw boatloads of erroneous "facts" and logical fallacies along with emotional arguments and conservatives respond with logic and facts.
The amount of logic I see here, beyond that which I post, couldn't fill a jigger.
 
Alternet. That's a big fail right there.

What makes someone conservative? Knowledge, intelligence,maturity.
What makes someone liberal? Lack of those things.

We see it here every day. Liberals throw boatloads of erroneous "facts" and logical fallacies along with emotional arguments and conservatives respond with logic and facts.
The amount of logic I see here, beyond that which I post, couldn't fill a jigger.

That's because you don't recognize logic when you see it.
QED.
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What makes one Conservative?

The fear of change, diversity, dissent, and expressions of individual liberty, an unwarranted hostility toward persons and things perceived to be a 'threat.'

Conservatives are fundamentally reactionary and authoritarian, where conformity must be compelled and those who refuse to comply must be subject to punitive measures. The best known example of this is conservatives' hostility toward gay Americans, and the conservative effort to deny gay Americans their civil liberties absent any rational, factual motive or evidence justifying those on the right to indeed do so.
 
Alternet. That's a big fail right there.

What makes someone conservative? Knowledge, intelligence,maturity.
What makes someone liberal? Lack of those things.

We see it here every day. Liberals throw boatloads of erroneous "facts" and logical fallacies along with emotional arguments and conservatives respond with logic and facts.
The amount of logic I see here, beyond that which I post, couldn't fill a jigger.

That's because you don't recognize logic when you see it.
QED.
No, it's because there is so little. Mostly just the rantings of irrational reactionary infants, like you...
 
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What makes one Conservative?

The fear of change, diversity, dissent, and expressions of individual liberty, an unwarranted hostility toward persons and things perceived to be a 'threat.'

Conservatives are fundamentally reactionary and authoritarian, where conformity must be compelled and those who refuse to comply must be subject to punitive measures. The best known example of this is conservatives' hostility toward gay Americans, and the conservative effort to deny gay Americans their civil liberties absent any rational, factual motive or evidence justifying those on the right to indeed do so.

Tell us all about it...
 
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Alternet. That's a big fail right there.

What makes someone conservative? Knowledge, intelligence,maturity.
What makes someone liberal? Lack of those things.

We see it here every day. Liberals throw boatloads of erroneous "facts" and logical fallacies along with emotional arguments and conservatives respond with logic and facts.

This is rich. What you wrote is typical of the posts I see on here 95% of the time: Pure bullshit rhetoric with no facts stated. And if a source for verification is linked, it's always to a ******* blog.
 
If I honestly thought the Op or any other liberal here wanted to do anything other than trash the responses I would give you one.

Show us where I've trashed a response?

Your last post and also no one has really taken this thread serious and given any real responses to trash by and large conservatives are just making light of the thread and liberals are just responding with conservatives hate insert name here.
 
If I honestly thought the Op or any other liberal here wanted to do anything other than trash the responses I would give you one.

Show us where I've trashed a response?

Your last post and also no one has really taken this thread serious and given any real responses to trash by and large conservatives are just making light of the thread and liberals are just responding with conservatives hate insert name here.

Show us before then? As usual, the trash-talk is off and running, that's what we do here.
 
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