Zone1 What knowledge does the Holy Spirit lead us into?

[Woodznutz]

Did the new law not include thou shalt not steal? Or any of the ten commandments? All the ten commandments are still present in the new law. The two greatest commandments cover the ten commandments without stating it. You are trying to use the same argument the Sadducees and Pharisees attempted with Jesus Christ to trick him. Here's another reason for the need of prophets. To let us know what commandments are necessary for exaltation in the kingdom of God. It's not even the full law of consecration where we give all we have to the kingdom of God. That will happen in the Millennium. We call it, the law of consecration or the United Order.

Keeping the law doesn't qualify you for salvation, but breaking it can disqualify you from the first resurrection (you'll just become part of "the rest of the dead". Revelation 20:5

The commandments that pertain to behavior were the "law of the land", as they are today in most places. Jesus' death signaled the end of the law of Moses, and the start of "the law of Christ". The similar features but higher principles.

 

[Cougarbear]

I came into the church after we were married. She didn't buy into it and eventually left me. She wasn't "pleased to dwell" with me anymore. I was an embarrassment to her.

And she’s still winning. Darkened your testimony and faith. Time to stop with the blame game and get back on the horse.

 

[Cougarbear]

God wants me to move beyond the letter of the law and be led by the spirit. The law was my schoolmaster, but I'm now a grad student.

But not a doctorate…Find the missionaries and get back on the horse.

 

[Woodznutz]

And she’s still winning. Darkened your testimony and faith. Time to stop with the blame game and get back on the horse.

My testimony and faith are stronger than ever. My ex-wife was loser, even our kids acknowledge it.

A person's testimony is their personal 'ministry', usually preached by example, not words.

 

[Woodznutz]

But not a doctorate…Find the missionaries and get back on the horse.

Never got off.

God isn't through with me yet. I think he's preparing me for something big. Why else would he keep me alive for so long?

"It is the glory of God to conceal a matter,
But the glory of kings is to search out a matter."

 

[Cougarbear]

My testimony and faith are stronger than ever. My ex-wife was loser, even our kids acknowledge it.

A person's testimony is their personal 'ministry', usually preached by example, not words.

Takes more than example. For what’s in the heart comes out of the mouth, right?

Your testimony? You would not be a lone wolf if your faith is strong. And, you would forgive better too. Give all your emotional, physical and mental pain to the Lord’s atoning sacrifice.

 

[Cougarbear]

Never got off.

God isn't through with me yet. I think he's preparing me for something big. Why else would he keep me alive for so long?

"It is the glory of God to conceal a matter,
But the glory of kings is to search out a matter."

Go do something more instead of dreaming of your mansions on high No need to wait. The Bishop will have something for you to do inspired of God.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

None whatsoever.

This is not how knowledge is acquired. All of human history shows it.

Knowledge is acquired through a process of rigor. Not divine hallucinations.

 

[Woodznutz]

Takes more than example. For what’s in the heart comes out of the mouth, right?

Your testimony? You would not be a lone wolf if your faith is strong. And, you would forgive better too. Give all your emotional, physical and mental pain to the Lord’s atoning sacrifice.

I forgave her long before she died.

Your example is what comes out of your heart.

 

[Woodznutz]

Go do something more instead of dreaming of your mansions on high No need to wait. The Bishop will have something for you to do inspired of God.

Are you proselytizing me?

 

[ding]

by reading any one of the three desert bibles ...

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is an obvious conclusion.

Are they going to hell for that?

Or will they be equal to you in heaven like everyone in heaven?

 

[Cougarbear]

Are you proselytizing me?

It seems you are doing this to yourself. Keep up the good work

 

[Woodznutz]

It seems you are doing this to yourself. Keep up the good work

I've been in the faith since 1972. A believer since I was 3.

 

[ding]

Did the new law not include thou shalt not steal? Or any of the ten commandments? All the ten commandments are still present in the new law. The two greatest commandments cover the ten commandments without stating it. You are trying to use the same argument the Sadducees and Pharisees attempted with Jesus Christ to trick him. Here's another reason for the need of prophets. To let us know what commandments are necessary for exaltation in the kingdom of God. It's not even the full law of consecration where we give all we have to the kingdom of God. That will happen in the Millennium. We call it, the law of consecration or the United Order.

It's not about rule keeping. It's about loving God.

 

[ding]

Keeping the law doesn't qualify you for salvation, but breaking it can disqualify you from the first resurrection (you'll just become part of "the rest of the dead". Revelation 20:5

The commandments that pertain to behavior were the "law of the land", as they are today in most places. Jesus' death signaled the end of the law of Moses, and the start of "the law of Christ". The similar features but higher principles.

You are spot on.

If one loves God with all their heart then their relationship with God will be right. And if their relationship with God is right, then all other relationships will be right. Rules won't be necessary because one will always try to do what is right and when they fail they will make every effort to make it right.

 

[Woodznutz]

It's not about rule keeping. It's about loving God.

True. Rule keeping limits you to the rules, even if you follow them.

When we were learning "letters" in grade school I already knew cursive (my brother taught me). My teacher told me that I shouldn't get ahead of what she was teaching, although eventually we would be learning cursive.

The law is like "letters" and those who teach the law won't let us get to spiritual "cursive".

 

[ding]

Rule keeping limits you to the rules, even if you follow them.

And leads to following the letter of the law (i.e. legal positivism) rather than the spirit of the law (i.e. natural law).

 

[Woodznutz]

And leads to following the letter of the law (i.e. legal positivism) rather than the spirit of the law (i.e. natural law).

This encapsulates the spirit of the law.

Ephesians 4:28 — Steal No More, Work with Your Hands

Ephesians 4:28 is a clear call to abandon dishonest behavior and embrace honest, productive work. The verse says: “Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth” (KJV)

Here we see that the spirit of the written law, generosity to others, is the antithesis of the written law, stealing from others.

Not stealing from others is good (the written law).
Giving to others is better (the spirit of the law).

Also notable is that giving to others isn't mandatory ("may" give to others, not you will give to others).

 

[Hafar1014]

It is not what Catholicism teaches or what many other Protestant denominations. I've already told you this several times, but it appears it still hasn't taken. Try again. What do I believe?

Because you are logically wrong. The only reason fir hell to exist is punishment for non belief. Catholicism teaches you are in a constant state of sin and must go to confession. You cant evewn talk directly to god. You need a priest who probably had sex with a child

 

[Meriweather]

Because you are logically wrong. The only reason fir hell to exist is punishment for non belief. Catholicism teaches you are in a constant state of sin and must go to confession. You cant evewn talk directly to god. You need a priest who probably had sex with a child

Are you, by any chance, thinking of Dante's Inferno? That is a work of fiction. There has to be a dozen times now that you have been advised 'hell' is a choice an individual makes for eternal separation from God. You say you believe in free will, but you cannot seem to grasp the concept at all.

What is also hilarious is that you have been constantly preaching that it is God's will for us to disobey him (a state of sin).

No, Catholicism does not teach you are in a "constant state of sin". Seriously, where do you pick up this nonsense? Source please, or next time begin with, According to me only, Hafar1014, Catholicism teaches you are in a constant state of sin. Every Catholic knows this is not the case and was never taught this. Again, if you are going to say something like You cant evewn talk directly to god, then begin with According to me only, Hafar1014, Catholicism teaches... I (and most Catholics) have been talking/praying to God since we were mere toddlers. Catholics follow in the way of Jesus. And Jesus spoke up (just as priests do in his name today), "Your sins are forgiven." We do this for the same reason we are baptized, confirmed, receive the holy Eucharist, etc. Jesus taught it and we follow the Way of Jesus. Another bit of information for you: Before people who believed in Christ were called Christians or Catholic, they were called and known as Followers of the Way."
Once more, as I have said over and over and over again: You are a follower of your own way, and you should be telling us all about that. What you should not be doing is telling people about any other religious practice other than you own. As you have proven again and again, you are totally ignorant about the Christian/Catholic faith. Stop speaking like an ignorant idiot in that regard. Follow Proverbs 17:28 and say nothing: “Even a fool who keeps silent is considered wise; when he closes his lips, he is deemed intelligent,”