Zone1 What knowledge does the Holy Spirit lead us into?

[Woodznutz]

Complex spiritual things, or basic material things?
What knowledge is mankind most in need of?
What knowledge is the church most in need of?
Is spiritual knowledge actually the same as material knowledge?

 

[Meriweather]

Complex spiritual things, or basic material things?
What knowledge is mankind most in need of?
What knowledge is the church most in need of?
Is spiritual knowledge actually the same as material knowledge?

How are you defining knowledge? The definition of 'knowledge' is, Facts, information, and skills acquired by a person through experience or education.

Mankind, even atheists, appear to want God to prove himself to all. The problem with this is each person wants God to verify his existence according to his/her own individual terms.

Shouldn't both Church and mankind know exactly who is the source of evil (lack of goodness in a deed or a person)?

 

[Cassandro]

Complex spiritual things, or basic material things?
What knowledge is mankind most in need of?
What knowledge is the church most in need of?
Is spiritual knowledge actually the same as material knowledge?

Confusion?

 

[Woodznutz]

How are you defining knowledge? The definition of 'knowledge' is, Facts, information, and skills acquired by a person through experience or education.

Experience and education is likened to the hissing of a snake in Genesis (see the Hebrew meanings). The source of the greatest knowledge is revelation, original knowledge unavailable by any other means.

 

[Woodznutz]

Confusion?

"God is not the author of confusion." -Somewhere in the Bible.

 

[Cougarbear]

"God is not the author of confusion." -Somewhere in the Bible.

Yes, this is true. So, explain the 40,000 different sects of Christianity? That is what I'd call confusion. Someone doesn't like something so they go and start a new Church. They don't go to God and ask what Church is the true Church and wait for the Holy Ghost to manifest to them God or by a still small voice or a burning in one's bosom. The purpose of the Holy Ghost is to testify truth and comfort those who need comforting. The Light of Christ is different. That's our conscience which Adam and Eve received when they were banished from the Garden of Eden so they could know good and evil if they sought the Lord in all things.

 

[SaxonJackson]

Complex spiritual things, or basic material things?
What knowledge is mankind most in need of?
What knowledge is the church most in need of?
Is spiritual knowledge actually the same as material knowledge?

My opinion. There's no greater knowledge than to know God. The Holy Spirit leads to that end. Along the way, He teaches us to believe in Him; trust in Him; and to have faith in Him. Everything else is folly.

 

[Robert W]

My opinion. There's no greater knowledge than to know God. The Holy Spirit leads to that end. Along the way, He teaches us to believe in Him; trust in Him; and to have faith in Him. Everything else is folly.

 

[luiza]

Complex spiritual things, or basic material things?
What knowledge is mankind most in need of?
What knowledge is the church most in need of?
Is spiritual knowledge actually the same as material knowledge?

Who is this Holly Spirit person?
I remember Holly Golightly in Moon River .
A relation perhaps ?

 

[Cougarbear]

"God is not the author of confusion." -Somewhere in the Bible.

Just tag on from my last post, I think there is confusion with the two entities, "The Light of Christ" and "The Holy Ghost." Without a Prophet to ask the Lord with much confusion between sects and various Christian Churches, the two often get confused. While the phrase is not in the Bible, we refer it like unto "The spirit of the Lord." Not to be confused with the Holy Ghost. And, here is where it gets tricky with those of us who believe in the Trinity. To those, the Lord and Spirt could be the same being. To us, the light of Christ is just what the word implies, enlightenment, knowledge, and an uplifting, ennobling persevering influence that comes upon mankind because of Jesus Christ. This light fills the immensity of space. This light is not a personage. It is preparatory to one's receiving the Holy Ghost. The Holy Ghost is a personage and member of the Godhead. The Holy Ghost testifies of the truth that one may receive from the Light of Christ.

 

[BreezeWood]

Is spiritual knowledge actually the same as material knowledge?

no - they are distinct.

metaphysical physiology requires its unique spiritual content for its ability to exist and presently the visa versa is also true the spiritual content of physiology does not seem able to detach itself from the unique physiology it controls.

what happens when the physiology expires to its spiritual content no one knows for certain.

 

[Woodznutz]

Just tag on from my last post, I think there is confusion with the two entities, "The Light of Christ" and "The Holy Ghost." Without a Prophet to ask the Lord with much confusion between sects and various Christian Churches, the two often get confused. While the phrase is not in the Bible, we refer it like unto "The spirit of the Lord." Not to be confused with the Holy Ghost. And, here is where it gets tricky with those of us who believe in the Trinity. To those, the Lord and Spirt could be the same being. To us, the light of Christ is just what the word implies, enlightenment, knowledge, and an uplifting, ennobling persevering influence that comes upon mankind because of Jesus Christ. This light fills the immensity of space. This light is not a personage. It is preparatory to one's receiving the Holy Ghost. The Holy Ghost is a personage and member of the Godhead. The Holy Ghost testifies of the truth that one may receive from the Light of Christ.

Sorry, I was too lazy to look up the phrase. Here it is.

1 Corinthians 14:33
For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

 

[Woodznutz]

no - they are distinct.

metaphysical physiology requires its unique spiritual content for its ability to exist and presently the visa versa is also true the spiritual content of physiology does not seem able to detach itself from the unique physiology it controls.

what happens when the physiology expires to its spiritual content no one knows for certain.

What if you see spiritual principles at work in everything you do materially?

 

[BreezeWood]

What if you see spiritual principles at work in everything you do materially?

great, there is no " what if " - the question is are they the same - spiritual guides the material, spiritual evolution.

 

[Woodznutz]

great, there is no " what if " - the question is are they the same - spiritual guides the material, spiritual evolution.

The physical/material is the 'workshop' of the spiritual. That's the connection.

 

[rylah]

Complex spiritual things, or basic material things?
What knowledge is mankind most in need of?
What knowledge is the church most in need of?
Is spiritual knowledge actually the same as material knowledge?

Depends on a vessel and the generation.
The knowledge of speech.
The knowledge of God.

Material knowledge -
is prerequisite of spiritual work.

 

[Cougarbear]

Sorry, I was too lazy to look up the phrase. Here it is.

1 Corinthians 14:33
For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

That’s why prophets are necessary with 40,000 Christian churches and the rest of the nonsense persons like yourself

 

[Woodznutz]

That’s why prophets are necessary with 40,000 Christian churches and the rest of the nonsense persons like yourself

The things I believe make perfect sense to me.

 

[Cougarbear]

The things I believe make perfect sense to me.

It would to any kind of nut

 

[Woodznutz]

It would to any kind of nut

The things that make sense to me make sense to most people. The difference is that I live by them.