What kind of a country is modern Ukraine?

[Silver Cat]

Idiot, what did you save them from?

Their jobs? Homes? Loved ones?

What the hell are you talking about?

They saved them from discrimination, forced Ukrainisation, nazification, deindustrialisation and so on. Don't you remember Odessa's Massacre in 2014? That's why most of ethnic Russians (and Russian-speakers) pretty cooperative with the Russian government.

 

[Silver Cat]

This invasion is killing Ukranians and Russians not some imaginary Nazis you have in your stupid, brainwashed head!

Ukraine has mobilized it's citizens to defend their country from Ruzzist invaders, ~20% of them are ethnic Russians. THAT IS WHO RUSSIAN INVADERS ARE KILLING, when they are not killing civillians and getting killed themselves.

Those Nazies are not "imaginary". They are pretty real, and they really discriminate and kill people. And no, from the Russian point of view, Crimea, DPR and LPR were not Ukraine anymore. And no, Russians are living there since, at least, X century.

 

[AntonToo]

Those Nazies are not "imaginary". They are pretty real, and they really discriminate and kill people. And no, from the Russian point of view, Crimea, DPR and LPR were not Ukraine anymore. And no, Russians are living there since, at least, X century.

How many people did those scary Nazis kill 2019-2022 when Russians tanks rolled in and started daily killing of people by the thousands?

 

[AntonToo]

Those Nazies are not "imaginary". They are pretty real, and they really discriminate and kill people. And no, from the Russian point of view, Crimea, DPR and LPR were not Ukraine anymore. And no, Russians are living there since, at least, X century.

“Russian point of view” is whatever Putin says and Putin vision propagates everyday in prime time.

There is no real opposition or free media to steer the sheep to other facts and thinking about the matter.

German Nazis were also convinced by their Furer that countries they were invading were rightfully theirs and/or that they were saving some sort of mistreated Germans in those countries.

Russian point of view is a bunch of bullshit no one else in the world belives. Even China doesn’t recognize Crimea as Russian.

 

[AntonToo]

They saved them from discrimination, forced Ukrainisation, nazification, deindustrialisation and so on. Don't you remember Odessa's Massacre in 2014? That's why most of ethnic Russians (and Russian-speakers) pretty cooperative with the Russian government.

Yes absolutely I remember Odessa. Violent Russian provocateurs got knocked the fuck out and it’s been peaceful ever since.

Strelkov (ex-FSB) specifically said that if his Russian heavy military equipment riding crew didn’t invade Donbas in 2014 same would happen there and the conflict would fizzle out.

 

[Ringo]

This is a perfect example of someone completely uninformed.

No, he's just a faggot on third degree syphilis that affects the brain. Have pity on him.

 

[Silver Cat]

How many people did those scary Nazis kill 2019-2022 when Russians tanks rolled in and started daily killing of people by the thousands?

How many Americans have been actually killed by the Brits before American Revolutionary War was started? The question is not only about killing. It's also about discrimination, abusing, stealing property, lawless murders and so on. What is even more important - Biden ordered to send 3 B-52 bombers into Ukrainian airspace in the end of 2021. The Russians read it as a preparation to kill millions of them and reacted accordingly. From their point of view it was much more provocative than Soviet missiles on Cuba back in 1962.

 

[Silver Cat]

Yes absolutely I remember Odessa. Violent Russian provocateurs got knocked the fuck out and it’s been peaceful ever since.

No. It was not "peaceful" since that mass murder of ethnic Russian activists by neo-Nazy gangs and subsequent official approval of their actions by Kievan Junta.

If we had violently (with dozens murdered "activists") suppressed the BLM protests by "redneck patriots", and official Washington approved their actions and allowed cops and patriots "shoot at place any suspicious n-gger", we would have already had a civil war, too.
This massacre didn't solve the problem. The local Russians (including many Soldiers, Officers and Generals of AFU and SBU operatives) just changed their tactic - from open political discussion and street protests to shadow war. If Kievan government don't want defend them and protect their rights - they just invite another government (from Moscow).

 

[AntonToo]

No. It was not "peaceful" since that mass murder of ethnic Russian activists by neo-Nazy gangs and subsequent official approval of their actions by Kievan Junta.

Bullshit, source that.

 

[AntonToo]

If we had violently (with dozens murdered "activists") suppressed the BLM protests by "redneck patriots", and official Washington approved their actions and allowed cops and patriots "shoot at place any suspicious n-gger", we would have already had a civil war, too.

Bullshit. Girkin (aka Strelkov) himself explained to you that without Russian citizens like him leading separatism there would not be any armed conflict in Ukraine.

In 2014 he couldn't even recriut 1000 fighters out of 4.5 million population, and you are posting some bullshit here about some supposed civil war?

 

[Silver Cat]

Bullshit, source that.

Source what? That Junta approved the actions of the neo-nazi gangs and officially started witch-hunt?

 

[Silver Cat]

Bullshit. Girkin himself explained to you that without Russians there would not be any armed conflict in Ukraine.

Sure. The Russians do live there. And Kievan Junta started the military operation to supress their uprising (caused by Junta's discrimination of them). As well as there would not be any American-Mexican war back in XIX century without Americans.

In the matter of fact, there would not be any Ukraine without Russians in first place.

 

[AntonToo]

Sure. The Russians do live there. And Kievan Junta started the military operation to supress their uprising (caused by Junta's discrimination of them)

No dummy, RUSSIAN CITIZENS, who were illigally in Ukraine, funded and armed by Russian government, taking over Ukranian cities and hanging RUSSIAN FLAGS on government buildings.

Girkin is a Russian citizen and an ex-FSB agent, just like first head of DNR, Borodai.

 

[Silver Cat]

No dummy, RUSSIAN CITIZENS, who were illigally in Ukraine taking over cities.

Really? Few dozens of almost unarmed Russian citizens totally destroyed Ukrainian society in two large and rich regions? Ridiculous.

 

[AntonToo]

Really? Few dozens of almost unarmed Russian citizens totally destroyed Ukrainian society in two large and rich regions? Ridiculous.

Stop posting ludecrous Russian propaganda.

There were tons of Russian nationals in Ukraine, specifically Russian armed forces members on supposed "leave" and they were not "unarmed" quite the oppositite, they were riding around on heavy millitary hardware.

 

[Ringo]

The Khokhls laugh at russian elections. when they themselves won't have any.
They laugh at russian mobilization. when they themselves are forcibly mobilized every day.
They laugh at russian navy, when they themselves have none.
Maybe they think that laughter prolongs life?

 

[Ringo]

"Shoot them off like rabid dogs" - Ukro colonel demands extermination of Donbass population

"These are not people, these are terrorists. They must be destroyed. And there is a mechanism, and even a legal one - it is necessary to recognize all the participants of these events for the last period of time as terrorists, and launch the liquidation mechanism. For our security services, this is a 10-15 year job, during which they will be able to cope with the utilization of this biomass. These are terrorists, bio-waste, rabid dogs that must be shot and this issue must be solved"
More weapons for freedom loving ukrainians!

 

[gipper]

"Shoot them off like rabid dogs" - Ukro colonel demands extermination of Donbass population

"These are not people, these are terrorists. They must be destroyed. And there is a mechanism, and even a legal one - it is necessary to recognize all the participants of these events for the last period of time as terrorists, and launch the liquidation mechanism. For our security services, this is a 10-15 year job, during which they will be able to cope with the utilization of this biomass. These are terrorists, bio-waste, rabid dogs that must be shot and this issue must be solved"
More weapons for freedom loving ukrainians!

He’s a mad man. Sounds a lot like Bibi and his henchmen.

 

[Ringo]

Nothing unusual, just in prime time on UkrTV on the eve of Orthodox Christmas Ukrainians in the form of devils dance in church and wish death to the Russians.

A sick nation that apparently cannot be cured without operation.....

 

[Ringo]