What kind of a country is modern Ukraine?

[Dissident]

For some reason, the images I uploaded via Imgbb to my previous post yesterday aren't showing up today.
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[Litwin]

For some reason, the images I uploaded via Imgbb to my previous post yesterday aren't showing up today.
So I've re-uploaded them below.

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For all intents and purposes, your Moscow empire has lost the war. This is why you are doubling down on the propaganda war...

 

[Dissident]

your Moscow empire has lost the war.

What did Ukrainian troops do in Iraq in 2003?
Did they help the US Army to look for Iraqi weapons of mass destruction which later were never found in Iraq?

Pls see my yesterday’s post.

 

[Dissident]

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German newspaper Berliner Zeitung on the threat to Europe from Ukraine

In the first half of December I published in this thread an article called “Is modern Ukraine an aggressive country?"; among other things, this article also contained the following thesis:​

Western politicians are frightening their fellow citizens with the idea that after Ukraine, the Russian army could move further west, although the Russian government has never announced such plans.
But for some reason, these politicians are not afraid that it will be precisely aggressive Ukrainian nationalists who might move west in their fight against “subhumans.”​

And two days before the New Year, the influential German newspaper Berliner Zeitung published its own article, a significant part of which was devoted to the same problem.

The subtitle of this material already stated:​

Der Krieg hat rechtsextreme Gruppen in der Ukraine in die politische Mitte gespült. Durch die westlichen Waffenlieferungen könnten sie zu einem Sicherheitsrisiko für Europa werden.​

The war has brought far-right groups in Ukraine to the center of political life. Thanks to Western arms supplies, they could become a security threat to Europe.

The article went on to state:​

Diese Entwicklung vollzog sich nicht von selbst. Sie wurde durch eine systematische Beschönigung ermöglicht - betrieben von Politikern, Journalisten, Intellektuellen und Aktivisten, die bereit waren, unbequeme Tatsachen zu verschweigen. Ein Beispiel ist der Gebrauch von NS- und Hasssymbolen in ukrainischen Militäreinheiten.​

The current situation did not arise by itself. It was made possible by systematic silence, perpetrated by politicians, journalists, intellectuals, and activists who were willing to ignore inconvenient facts. One example is the use of Nazi symbols and hate symbols in Ukrainian military units.
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Noch verstörender als die Symbolik ist die Ideologie der etablierten extremen Rechten in der Ukraine… Führerkult und Gewaltverherrlichung, Ablehnung der Demokratie, rassischer und ethnischer Nationalismus, Antisemitismus, Anti-Islamismus und Homophobie. Ihre Ideologen äußern offene Verachtung für Europa, das sie als dekadent, schwach und degeneriert darstellen - zu tolerant, zu hedonistisch und zu fixiert auf Menschenrechte.​

Even more disturbing than the symbolism is the ideology of the established far-right community in Ukraine… The cult of the leader and the glorification of violence, the denial of democracy, racial and ethnic nationalism, anti-Semitism, anti-Islamism, and homophobia. Far-right ideologists openly express contempt for Europe, which they portray as decadent, weak, and degenerating - too tolerant, too hedonistic, and too preoccupied with human rights.
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Jedes Friedensabkommen läuft Gefahr, von der extremen Rechten in der Ukraine nicht als Kompromiss, sondern als Niederlage betrachtet zu werden. Und Niederlagen verlangen Schuldige. Die im Krieg geschürte Wut könnte sich leicht gegen Europa richten. Europäische Eliten sollten sich daher einer unbequemen Realität stellen: Wie lässt sich verhindern, selbst zum Ziel jener Kräfte zu werden, die man bewaffnet, ausgebildet, legitimiert und finanziert hat? Die Geschichte liefert eine düstere Warnung. Die heute gefeierten „Freiheitskämpfer" könnten morgen als „Terroristen" zurückkehren.​

Any peace agreement risks being perceived by the far right in Ukraine not as a compromise, but as a defeat. And defeats require scapegoating. The anger fueled by war could easily turn against Europe. Therefore, European elites must ask themselves an uncomfortable question: How can they avoid becoming targets of the very forces they armed, trained, legitimized, and financed? The past has already set tragic precedents. Today's celebrated "freedom fighters" could return tomorrow as "terrorists."​

 

[otto105]

A nation full of corrupt white supremist...

Sounds like a nation of maga.

 

[Rambunctious]

Sounds like a nation of maga.

But the evidence over the last 4 years says you have it backwards... which party was it that cheated in our elections and installed a senile old man/puppet as president?.... which party made healthcare a rich man's ponzi scheme?... which party does insider trading in the market?... and which party is in the streets fighting our peace officers?.... and which party collaborates with illegal aliens to rip off Americans?....

 

[otto105]

But the evidence over the last 4 years says you have it backwards... which party was it that cheated in our elections and installed a senile old man/puppet as president?.... which party made healthcare a rich man's ponzi scheme?... which party does insider trading in the market?... and which party is in the streets fighting our peace officers?.... and which party collaborates with illegal aliens to rip off Americans?....

Hilarious

Go get drozzy don another Big Mac meal.

 

[Rambunctious]

Hilarious

Go get drozzy don another Big Mac meal.

So no answer?... I figured you had no answer because you know I'm right... you know you are tide to a criminal treasonous political party....

 

[otto105]

So no answer?... I figured you had no answer because you know I'm right... you know you are tide to a criminal treasonous political party....

What are you claiming to be right about?

 

[Rambunctious]

What are you claiming to be right about?

That's okay Otto... take your pills and lay down for a bit.....

 

[otto105]

So no answer?... I figured you had no answer because you know I'm right... you know you are tide to a criminal treasonous political party....

Dude, seriously hilarious.

 

[Deadstick]

Ukraine is a rogue terrorist State and Oligarchy full of far right Nationalists who celebrate WW2 Nazi collaborators and murder anyone who questions them including Journalists.

 

[otto105]

Ukraine is a rogue terrorist State and Oligarchy full of far right Nationalists who celebrate WW2 Nazi collaborators and murder anyone who questions them including Journalists.

Good job Ruskie.

A rubble for you.

 

[SaxonJackson]

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When the question “What kind of a country is modern Ukraine?” is asked, Americans usually answer that it doesn’t matter for them, what kind of a country modern Ukraine is.

However, in the past it did matter for Americans what kind of a country Libya was in 2011 when the U.S. bombed it; or it did matter for Americans what kind of a country Iraq was in 2003 when U.S. invaded it, etc.

The second Americans’ answer to the question “What kind of a country is modern Ukraine?” is the answer “Modern Ukraine may be a not especially good country now, but it is changing for the better”.

In this article, I am going to consider both above-mentioned theses.​

Spoiler

Rights of ethnic minorities in Ukraine after the Euromaidan

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Before the so-called Ukrainian revolution, alias Euromaidan, i.e. before February 2014, ethnic minorities had much more rights in Ukraine than now. For example, Ukraine had state-financed Hungarian, Romanian etc. schools where children were taught in their respective languages during the whole course of education.

However, in 2020 and 2021 the Law on Indigenous Peoples and Law on Secondary Education were passed in Ukraine and under these Laws the state stopped to finance Hungarian, Romanian etc. schools of ethnic minorities because ethnic Hungarians, Romanians and other peoples were not named “Indigenous Peoples of Ukraine” in these Laws.

Before February 2014, there were also so-called regional languages in Ukraine, i.e. languages which were native for more than 10% people in a region, city, town or settlement. These regional languages could be free used in public offices, in mass media, in private enterprises etc. on the territory of the respective region, city, town or settlement.

But in 2019 the above-mentioned regional languages were eliminated in Ukraine.
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Freedom of speech in Ukraine after the Euromaidan

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Before February 2014, Ukrainian police protected offices of mass media, even opposition ones.
However after the Euromaidan, the police often do not intervene when Ukrainian nationalists attack opposition media.

In the summer of 2016, a Ukrainian website accused the Ukrainian TV company Inter of cooperation with separatists. Till November 2016, the building, where this TV company is situated, was three times attacked by “activists” and its rooms were set on fire - fortunately, nobody died in these arsons. However, the material damage was great.

After one of these arsons, an Advisor to the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine Anton Gerashchenko wrote in Facebook that one shouldn`t rule out that Inter managers themselves had provoked the arson of their rooms; see here.

So far, no culprits of these arsons have been found; and by the way, so far, Ukrainian authorities haven’t published any confirmation that Inter had really cooperated with separatists, i.e. no criminal proceedings have been started because of these allegations.​

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In December 2017, Yevheniy Murayev, the owner of the Ukrainian TV channel NewsOne, called the Euromaidan a coup d'etat.

Although his words weren’t violation of Ukrainian laws, hundreds of “activists” surrounded the building of NewsOne and demanded apologies from Murayev.

The police did not intervene and Ukrainian Minister of Internal Affairs Avakov said that owners of NewsOne “had to stop to provoke people”.

The “activists” blocked all entrances to the building of NewsOne by using sand bags and barbed wire; and this blockade lasted for 7 days and although it was an obvious violation of Ukrainian laws, nobody was arrested or otherwise punished for it.

In 2021 the broadcasting of NewsOne was suspended by Ukrainian authorities. And in 2023, the Ukrainian Council for Broadcasting – after a decision of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine - revoked license of NewsOne, see the official website of this Council; i.e. this TV channel was fully closed.

Therefore, I can conclude that situation in the sphere of rights of ethnic minorities and in the sphere of freedom of speech has become worse as compared with the situation before the Euromaidan.

Source

It's an Ashkenazi, anti-Christian crap hole.