Zone1 What is Wrong with Inequality?

[Man With A Plan]

Without Analogies, Logic Is Useless

You get zero wage as a college student. Education is directly related to the profits of those who hire you after you've already sacrificed some of the best years of your life. If that's the way they feel about it, why should we feel they'll treat us with respect after they hire us?

It's no different from being told in a job interview, "We'll give you a white-collar job, but only after you work four years here without pay at a blue-collar job."

Or construction companies saying to their hardhats, "We can't make any money off this building until it is finished. So you won't get paid until then."

You're probably the most ignorant poster on this board when it comes to how businesses function! If a construction company EVER told it's employees that they wouldn't get paid until after a job was done they would immediately be taken to court and have their asses handed to them! Are you here trying to prove how little you know about businesses?

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

The left's desire to demonize the rich and paint America as a bad place full of bad people, is worse.

Preppy Progressives Have an Oedipus Complex

Time to demonize the hereditary rich and quit denying that they are a completely different class from those who earned their wealth.

 

[Concerned American]

Because people are buying more homes, renting them out

Very few individuals become rich being rental owners. The return comes from appreciation of the property, the same as any property owner. The difference is the risk the rental owner takes--rent control, deadbeat renters, renters who trash the properties etc. Between lousy renters, taxes and prog city gov't regs, the property owner is lucky to break even.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Uh .. like, they could just give you the money that they are spending on the insurance. Do you really not get that?

In some cases, yes they do! If I have insurance through my wife, I didn't have to take the insurance and they would have given me the funds. Many self-insured companies do that! I'll bet you didn't know that, did you, smartass!

Many years ago, I sold private insurance and then handled employee benefits for AT&T worldwide.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Actually you do pay for it. If an employer does not provide group life and health insurance for its employees, your salary could be larger. For every benefit provided by an employer, wages will almost always be decreased by a sufficient amount to cover those costs.

What part of dumbass are you channeling? Read my comments and don't assume I am talking about something else. It doesn't come out of my paycheck!

I swear some of you people can't read for shit! Especially the extreme liberals and extreme conservatives.

 

[Man With A Plan]

Preppy Progressives Have an Oedipus Complex

Time to demonize the hereditary rich and quit denying that they are the same as those who earned their wealth.

They are different. Those with hereditary wealth have been taught from an early age that the preservation of capital is paramount. Those who are still in the process of amassing wealth take greater risks with their capital in order to increase it.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

You're probably the most ignorant poster on this board when it comes to how businesses function! If a construction company EVER told it's employees that they wouldn't get paid until after a job was done they would immediately be taken to court and have their asses handed to them! Are you here trying to prove how little you know about businesses?

Big Hack Attack

And the few college graduates who actually deserved to graduate should have the same right that those construction workers have. But they can use their brains to get even for this insult to intelligence in many other ways.

If the 1% in IQ ever man up, they can easily take down the 1% they made wealthiest. You plutelickers will tremble at the slogan, "If you're so smart, why haven't you made the rich poorer?"

 

[AZrailwhale]

And why is there excessive demand?

Because people are buying more homes, renting them out, so young people and those without homes can't now afford to buy homes?

Because of the constant flow of illegal aliens across the borders and natural population growth. That demand is exacerbated by artificial housing shortages caused by building codes.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Actually you do pay for it. If an employer does not provide group life and health insurance for its employees, your salary could be larger. For every benefit provided by an employer, wages will almost always be decreased by a sufficient amount to cover those costs.

Group health insurance was developed by Kaiser as a way to avoid wartime salary controls and attract employees during WWII.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Because of the constant flow of illegal aliens across the borders and natural population growth. That demand is exacerbated by artificial housing shortages caused by building codes.

So, the states with the most illegal immigrants will be the states with the highest home prices?

List of U.S. states and territories by immigrant population - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

So, you have California, New Jersey, New York, Florida, Nevada,

List of U.S. states by median home price - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Number one Hawaii, for obvious reasons, California is second, then Massachusetts, Washington state, Colorado, Utah, New Jersey, Oregon, New Hampshire....

Doesn't seem to be much of a match.

California has high house prices for a variety of reasons, the sun is probably a big reason, that and people want to live by the sea, or live in San Francisco which is the gay capital. I'm sure illegal immigration does have a certain impact, but house prices have been going up everywhere.

Mapped: The Growth in U.S. House Prices by State in 2024

As U.S. home values continue to climb, we show the growth in house prices by state in 2024 at a time of persistently high interest rates.

www.visualcapitalist.com

2024 highest increase was Vermont, New Jersey, New York, Delaware, Kansas...

States Where the Most People Rent Their Homes

A little over one-third of U.S. households rent their homes. While many associate homeownership with economic stability, renting is often a safer choice, granting more flexibility. At the same time, in cities across much of the country, for a large share of residents, particularly young ones...

247wallst.com

Places with the highest number of rentals

New York, California, Nevada, Hawaii, Rhode Island, Texas, Massachusetts

These states are where rent has spiked the most

Rentec analyzed rent data over the past five years and found that rents increased an average of 31% from 2019 to 2024.

nypost.com

"New Mexico, Tennessee, Georgia, and Maryland all saw rent increases of between 61% and 67% during that time, but Arizona topped the list as the state with the largest rent jump."

All of these states aren't in the top states for immigrant population. Nor for highest number of rentals. So why are these prices going up so high?

 

[dblack]

Many years ago, I sold private insurance and then handled employee benefits for AT&T worldwide.

Right. That makes it all the more surprising that you don't get the concept of total compensation.

 

[Man With A Plan]

Big Hack Attack

And the few college graduates who actually deserved to graduate should have the same right that those construction workers have. But they can use their brains to get even for this insult to intelligence in many other ways.

If the 1% in IQ ever man up, they can easily take down the 1% they made wealthiest. You plutelickers will tremble at the slogan, "If you're so smart, why haven't you made the rich poorer?"

Judging from your posts...I'm guessing the closest you've come to an Ivory Tower is a picture like this one!

 

[Unkotare]

Judging from your posts...I'm guessing the closest you've come to an Ivory Tower is a picture like this one!
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That's Marsh Chapel.

 

[braalian]

So your calling Republican voters and politicians liars for claiming they were struggling to buy food for the four years of Biden's Presidency then?

They were exaggerating, yes

 

[Foxfyre]

Without Analogies, Logic Is Useless

You get zero wage as a college student. Education is directly related to the profits of those who hire you after you've already sacrificed some of the best years of your life. If that's the way they feel about it, why should we feel they'll treat us with respect after they hire us?

It's no different from being told in a job interview, "We'll give you a white-collar job, but only after you work four years here without pay at a blue-collar job."

Or construction companies saying to their hardhats, "We can't make any money off this building until it is finished. So you won't get paid until then.

Since I had to pay for my college except for an earned smallish scholarship, I worked and was paid so that I could pay for tuition, books, fees, room and board. I chose to have an education. Nobody forced it on me or took advantage of me in any way. And I was blessed to get it when the public schools and universities were still educating instead of indoctrinating.

I have fewer than two bosses who did not respect or value me in a very long, eclectic work life and I did not work for those for long. Most have been great.

I have worked for commission in my best paying jobs and loved it. Okay there were pretty much no benefits in addition to my earnings but I couldn't be underpaid. And I out earned most of the guys if not all of them.

There are all sorts of ways to view the world we live in. We can see ourselves as victims of the system. Or the beneficiaries of it. I prefer the latter.

 

[MarcATL]

They were exaggerating, yes

They were only "exaggerating" huh? You're funny. LOL!!

 

[rightwinger]

Actually you do pay for it. If an employer does not provide group life and health insurance for its employees, your salary could be larger. For every benefit provided by an employer, wages will almost always be decreased by a sufficient amount to cover those costs.

Employers should be out of the health insurance business

 

[rightwinger]

Minimum wages are already too high, and Unions have devolved into organizations that work only for themselves, not the members. I can remember staying out on strike an additional month for a contract item that only benefitted the Union, not the members.

$7.25 an hour is too high?
MAGA!

 

[Woodznutz]

The Road to Perdition Is Patrician

The same here as what was called "criollo revolutions" in Spanish America. The native-born heiristocracy revolting against being ruled by the hidalgos born in Spain.

We had our Torys.

 

[Woodznutz]

When Some People Are Allowed to Slide Uphill, the World Is Upside-Down


It wouldn't require extreme personal sacrifice if it weren't an easy elevator ride for those who make the rules for others on getting ahead.

Rich people create the economic opportunities for everyone. The poor are either too ignorant or lazy to take advantage of this. Work is the key to success (and survival) in America.

Like the good book says, "In the sweat of your face you will eat bread."