Zone1 What is Wrong with Inequality?

[Man With A Plan]

Leftists Have Always Been a Fake Alternative to the Right Wing They Were Born In

Then why doesn't the blue-collar-hating snob Left ever define "take-home pay" as the difference between what the employee produces for the owners and what they pay him out of that?

The greatest Grand Larceny is corporate patents. The self-styled "educated party" never mentions how High IQ employee-inventors get screwed royal (royalty being the greatest hereditary tyranny of all).

Interesting concept. So you want employees paid according to the profit that owners make selling the service or goods that they produce? Do you want to be the one to tell those employees that because the company didn't make a profit this week that their pay will be zero dollars?

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

No I don’t. Stop looking at what other people inherit

A worm in the Nile will squirm in denial

 

[alang1216]

Regardless of what you perceive as the impact.

What you consider is immaterial.

Not in a democracy.

 

[alang1216]

So a farm that's been in my family for eight generations would have to be mortgaged because you on the left want your free money? Details?

My Lord, where do you live, Downton Abby?

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Ah, yes...management by "bumper sticker" quotes! You want a "collective" so bad you can taste it...don't you, Sage?

All Promoted Ideologies Are for Those with the Unearned Privilege to Promote Them

It is dishonest to claim that Socialist State Capitalism is the only alternative. Besides, Capitalism is also collectivist: the employees create the wealth, and the owners collect it from them.

 

[alang1216]

There are limits and regulations on the types of containers and this has absolutely nothing to do with the topic. Quit trying to derail the fact that you have devolved this thread to the idiotic.

Seemed only fair since you devolved it into the pedantic. My point has always that what I do can have a negative effect on others.

 

[Man With A Plan]

Preparation Is the Most Important Part of Production

Opinionists who pretend to understand economics don't understand economic growth. Theory is static; activity is dynamic.

I don't pretend to understand Economics. I studied the subject in college. I had the good fortune of having Thomas Sowell as one of my Econ professors. I'm always struck by the appalling lack of understanding of basic Economic theory by the left on this site.

 

[Man With A Plan]

All Promoted Ideologies Are for Those with the Unearned Privilege to Promote Them

It is dishonest to claim that Socialist State Capitalism is the only alternative. Besides, Capitalism is also collectivist: the employees create the wealth, and the owners collect it from them.

I guess according to you, owners didn't do anything to deserve a share of the profits? You really are clueless on this topic.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Employees get a paycheck and they receive that paycheck whether the company is making a profit or it isn't. The investors that risked capital to finance that company receive dividends if the company shows a profit. If it doesn't...then they don't make a thing. Why would employees get dividends when they haven't risked capital?

They Demand the Lion's Share Because They Are Lyin' About the Worthiness of Risk

Misusing words again. "Risky" means doing something stupid. Give only the employees dividends on profits, because they are the ones most in a position to create profits, not the shareholders, who are absentee owners. Restrict financing of business to banks, which aren't entitled to a share of the profits.

That is just like Communism, accounting for its economic failures. The Communist Party was an absentee owner, too. It also proves that the twin ideologies came from the same birth-class, whose privileges must be abolished if civilization is to have a future.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

LOL, where do the state and federal governments get their money, moron. It doesn't grow on trees. SMFH.

The companies not the employees. Can you read? I said I have never had unemployment deducted from my paycheck!

 

[Man With A Plan]

My Lord, where do you live, Downton Abby?

Western Massachusetts. My family has been there since the early 1600's. According to you though...that family farm should be sold to pay an inheritance tax? Thanks, Alang.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I checked. The States that do require employees to pay in are Alaska, New Jersey and Pennsylvania.

Yeah, I knew that already. Thanks for educating the uneducatable.

 

[Man With A Plan]

They Demand the Lion's Share Because They Are Lyin' About the Worthiness of Risk

Misusing words again. "Risky" means doing something stupid. Give only the employees dividends on profits, because they are the ones most in a position to create profits, not the shareholders, who are absentee owners. Restrict financing of business to banks, which aren't entitled to a share of the profits.

That is just like Communism, accounting for its economic failures. The Communist Party was an absentee owner, too. It also proves that the twin ideologies came from the same birth-class, whose privileges must be abolished if civilization is to have a future.

Since the shareholders are the ones that risked capital to start the business it's laughable to claim that they aren't deserving of receiving dividends, Sage. Without that initial risk of capital there is no business!

 

[Concerned American]

Seemed only fair since you devolved it into the pedantic. My point has always that what I do can have a negative effect on others.

Your point, by your own admission has no relation to the topic.

 

[AZrailwhale]

And by “living wage,” they mean that a 19-year-old kid with no real skills should be able to rent an apartment all to himself while flipping fries at McDonalds.

The wage should be enough to allow unskilled workers to share an apartment in a modest area, and take a bus to work.

There are plenty of 2-bedroom apartments in a cheaper area of my county that rent for $1600 a month or so. That means $800 each share. A minimum wage of $15/hr should be tight but doable.

Put two beds in each bedroom like college dorms and its only $400.00 a month

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

I guess according to you, owners didn't do anything to deserve a share of the profits? You really are clueless on this topic.

Parrots Speak But Don't Know What They Are Saying

"Clueless" is a word that doesn't make any sense. Its underlying lying purpose is to deny excluded people the ability to have clues. Anyone who uses it to mean "stupid" is very defective in understanding language. You refuse to think about its obviously false but common usage, which ties in with your conformist obedience to those hired to explain economics to people who refuse to follow all the clues everyday non-hireling experience gives them about the falsity of its superstitions.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Really?

Then show where MAGA laws have raised minimum wage, supported unions or expanding benefits.

Minimum wages are already too high, and Unions have devolved into organizations that work only for themselves, not the members. I can remember staying out on strike an additional month for a contract item that only benefitted the Union, not the members.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Having enough money to break the law is not the same as breaking the law, moron. Wipe that crap off of your arm from reaching so far up your ass for that nonsense.

You don't need a lot of money to build a really big bomb. Fertilizer and diesel fuel are cheap. The other components can be bought at any hardware store. The hard part of building a bomb is getting it to NOT go off when you build it. Any number of terrorists here and abroad have found that out the hard way.

 

[Man With A Plan]

Parrots Speak But Don't Know What They Are Saying

"Clueless" is a word that doesn't make any sense. Its really purpose is to deny excluded people the ability to have clues. Anyone who uses it to mean "stupid" is very defective in understanding language. You refuse to think about its obviously false but common usage, which ties in with your conformist obedience to those hired to explain economics to people who refuse to follow all the clues everyday non-hireling experience gives them about the falsity of its superstitions.

LOL...are you one of those people who think you can make a flawed argument sound better by doing a little Kamala Harris word salad, Sage? Brevity is the strong suit of those who's argument is well formed. That mess you just posted? That's what you get when you don't have a clue about a topic!

 

[AZrailwhale]

I have never paid for unemployment. You lie.

As an employee it's part of your compensation package like the employer's part of Social Security tax.