What is White Supremacy?

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I hate to break this to you, Hitler, but between IQ tests and performance in colleges and universities, Asians are intellectually superior to whites. Thus, based upon your lower IQ statement, you and those of your ilk, are the creatures.
As for your Bible reference.....The Old Testament came from the Hebrews in the area of current Israel and who were Middle-Eastern and they, and Jesus (a Nazarene), who was also a Hebrew, had olive-skin, black/dark brown hair and dark eyes. They weren't as those like you seem to think and depict, a sandy-haired, blue eyed, white guy, unless the woman who was pregnant with him, had an affair with some Nordic traveler.
Also, I hate to break it to you, but we originated out of Africa and all Europeans, even you, have some percentage of Neanderthal DNA in us. If you doubt this, take a DNA test. You aren't entirely one species.
Most of what you're saying is inaccurate. Let us begin here:

Asians include Koreans, Japanese, and Chinese. The fact of the matter is, those countries are ALL more than 90 percent homogeneous. Japan claims to be the most racially pure country in the world. Those people who are homogeneous tend to have higher IQs than those who come from mixed race societies. Since there are more Chinese in China than there are white people on the face of the earth - and 91.5 percent of China is Han Chinese, I'd expect them (like Japanese Koreans 98 plus percent homogeneous) to score better than the mixed race Americans.

Secondly, Jesus was NOT olive skinned and eye witness accounts dispute that. If you studied the life of Jesus, in his missing years (years unaccounted for in the Bible), you can pick up on secular history showing that Jesus was with his great uncle in Britain, Joseph of Arimathea, showing that Jesus' great uncle was an Anglo Saxon.

There are a lot of people with a vested interest in trying to hide secular history in order to justify propping up beliefs that science and archaeology have factually refuted. While I did not fully vet this site personally, it seems to contain a brief factual recollection of the facts:

Joseph of Arimathea and the Missing Years of Christ

I don't know the DNA of most people, but there seems to be this mistaken belief that if you have so much as a drop of non-white blood in you that you are not white. Talk about reverse discrimination! If you have any non-white blood in you, then you should reject your racial heritage and embrace that of being a Neanderthal, a third worlder, and - if I'm understanding your line of reasoning... we must be descendants of monkeys.

If any of what you say were even remotely true, different branches of science, archaeology, forensics, etc. would not have conflicting opinions. Using history as a measuring rod, the most popular views (like the one you're promoting) are the ones most likely to be proven false in time.

There is a better standard for measuring the white people, but that is not the subject of the OP. They do have a history and a destiny - no matter how hard modernists try to sweep it under the rug and wage a subtle war of cultural racial and ethnic genocide against them.
You poor deluded soul.
I'm a poor deluded soul for not wallowing in false guilt and self hatred. How mighty left of you!
You're a white supremacist son. THE prime example of the problem. We all have a history and destiny. No one races destiny is any greater than any other race. There is no genocide being waged against white people. Stop listening to satan, boy.

Yet when he started two threads, stating and defending his primary beliefs, and threw down the gauntlet to you lefties about them,


you lefties, you included, by and large, ran and hid. Almost like you were afraid to face him.


THe few lefties that tried, made fools of themselves. They tried. He destroyed them. Then all they had left was the most pathetic stonewalling and stupid games...


well, you a lib, so you know what happens when you get suckered into actually defending your positions.


SO, make sure to make your jibs, and your gotcha zingers, then run away.

It may have been on this very thread, but it was one in which I stated my beliefs about why America was as it was - and turned out that the thread regarding our Christian founding was posted for discussion. It was ultimately derailed by one man with a fragile ego and nothing to support his name calling and false allegations.

No matter what subject the left supposedly wants to talk about, once you address it, they want to change the subject. In the instant case, the subject is supposedly a question about what white supremacy is.

With the exception of a very small number of people - and we're talking numbers so small that ALL of them combined in the United States could not fill a high school auditorium, there are no real white supremacists.

When El Chapo escaped prison, it was done via an elaborate tunnel system with a motorcycle for him to make it to a safe zone. Contrast that to Wesley Gullet, a white supremacist gang leader in a prison back last August. Gullet escapes prison, only to land up in the streets with no back up; no organization to whisk him off to safety and out of the immediate reach of LEOs.

I recently watched this documentary about some group called Atomwaffen Division with a leader named James Mason. He's some kind of guru that's been around since he was 14. He looked to be an older guy now and draws a government check, lives in government subsidized housing, and eats in soup kitchens. These people have no leaders and not enough money to sustain a single leader save of the rich boy with the last name of Spencer who is spending family money, not raising money from "white supremacy." They've been as quiet as a church mouse since Charlottesville. And, as Trump said, regarding Charlottesville, there were some good people - just fed up with the status quo, but they were not white supremacists. Nothing materialized.

Being opposed to the socialist takeover of America and watching the left try to tear down all vestiges of our culture doesn't make people white supremacists. In the view of black supremacists, if you oppose their take-over, you are a white supremacist. It's ridiculous. But we can come here and observe while the heathen rage.
 

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Most of what you're saying is inaccurate. Let us begin here:

Asians include Koreans, Japanese, and Chinese. The fact of the matter is, those countries are ALL more than 90 percent homogeneous. Japan claims to be the most racially pure country in the world. Those people who are homogeneous tend to have higher IQs than those who come from mixed race societies. Since there are more Chinese in China than there are white people on the face of the earth - and 91.5 percent of China is Han Chinese, I'd expect them (like Japanese Koreans 98 plus percent homogeneous) to score better than the mixed race Americans.

Secondly, Jesus was NOT olive skinned and eye witness accounts dispute that. If you studied the life of Jesus, in his missing years (years unaccounted for in the Bible), you can pick up on secular history showing that Jesus was with his great uncle in Britain, Joseph of Arimathea, showing that Jesus' great uncle was an Anglo Saxon.

There are a lot of people with a vested interest in trying to hide secular history in order to justify propping up beliefs that science and archaeology have factually refuted. While I did not fully vet this site personally, it seems to contain a brief factual recollection of the facts:

Joseph of Arimathea and the Missing Years of Christ

I don't know the DNA of most people, but there seems to be this mistaken belief that if you have so much as a drop of non-white blood in you that you are not white. Talk about reverse discrimination! If you have any non-white blood in you, then you should reject your racial heritage and embrace that of being a Neanderthal, a third worlder, and - if I'm understanding your line of reasoning... we must be descendants of monkeys.

If any of what you say were even remotely true, different branches of science, archaeology, forensics, etc. would not have conflicting opinions. Using history as a measuring rod, the most popular views (like the one you're promoting) are the ones most likely to be proven false in time.

There is a better standard for measuring the white people, but that is not the subject of the OP. They do have a history and a destiny - no matter how hard modernists try to sweep it under the rug and wage a subtle war of cultural racial and ethnic genocide against them.
You poor deluded soul.
I'm a poor deluded soul for not wallowing in false guilt and self hatred. How mighty left of you!
You're a white supremacist son. THE prime example of the problem. We all have a history and destiny. No one races destiny is any greater than any other race. There is no genocide being waged against white people. Stop listening to satan, boy.

Yet when he started two threads, stating and defending his primary beliefs, and threw down the gauntlet to you lefties about them,


you lefties, you included, by and large, ran and hid. Almost like you were afraid to face him.


THe few lefties that tried, made fools of themselves. They tried. He destroyed them. Then all they had left was the most pathetic stonewalling and stupid games...


well, you a lib, so you know what happens when you get suckered into actually defending your positions.


SO, make sure to make your jibs, and your gotcha zingers, then run away.

It may have been on this very thread, but it was one in which I stated my beliefs about why America was as it was - and turned out that the thread regarding our Christian founding was posted for discussion. It was ultimately derailed by one man with a fragile ego and nothing to support his name calling and false allegations.

No matter what subject the left supposedly wants to talk about, once you address it, they want to change the subject. In the instant case, the subject is supposedly a question about what white supremacy is.

With the exception of a very small number of people - and we're talking numbers so small that ALL of them combined in the United States could not fill a high school auditorium, there are no real white supremacists.

When El Chapo escaped prison, it was done via an elaborate tunnel system with a motorcycle for him to make it to a safe zone. Contrast that to Wesley Gullet, a white supremacist gang leader in a prison back last August. Gullet escapes prison, only to land up in the streets with no back up; no organization to whisk him off to safety and out of the immediate reach of LEOs.

I recently watched this documentary about some group called Atomwaffen Division with a leader named James Mason. He's some kind of guru that's been around since he was 14. He looked to be an older guy now and draws a government check, lives in government subsidized housing, and eats in soup kitchens. These people have no leaders and not enough money to sustain a single leader save of the rich boy with the last name of Spencer who is spending family money, not raising money from "white supremacy." They've been as quiet as a church mouse since Charlottesville. And, as Trump said, regarding Charlottesville, there were some good people - just fed up with the status quo, but they were not white supremacists. Nothing materialized.

Being opposed to the socialist takeover of America and watching the left try to tear down all vestiges of our culture doesn't make people white supremacists. In the view of black supremacists, if you oppose their take-over, you are a white supremacist. It's ridiculous. But we can come here and observe while the heathen rage.

Spencer is spending family money? I did not know that. Even I assumed that the biggest name recognition white supremacist in the country would be able to get some money from his mailing lists.


From lib media outlets if nothing else.


Are you sure of your information on that? If so they are even more pathetic than even I realized.
 

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You poor deluded soul.
I'm a poor deluded soul for not wallowing in false guilt and self hatred. How mighty left of you!
You're a white supremacist son. THE prime example of the problem. We all have a history and destiny. No one races destiny is any greater than any other race. There is no genocide being waged against white people. Stop listening to satan, boy.

Yet when he started two threads, stating and defending his primary beliefs, and threw down the gauntlet to you lefties about them,


you lefties, you included, by and large, ran and hid. Almost like you were afraid to face him.


THe few lefties that tried, made fools of themselves. They tried. He destroyed them. Then all they had left was the most pathetic stonewalling and stupid games...


well, you a lib, so you know what happens when you get suckered into actually defending your positions.


SO, make sure to make your jibs, and your gotcha zingers, then run away.

It may have been on this very thread, but it was one in which I stated my beliefs about why America was as it was - and turned out that the thread regarding our Christian founding was posted for discussion. It was ultimately derailed by one man with a fragile ego and nothing to support his name calling and false allegations.

No matter what subject the left supposedly wants to talk about, once you address it, they want to change the subject. In the instant case, the subject is supposedly a question about what white supremacy is.

With the exception of a very small number of people - and we're talking numbers so small that ALL of them combined in the United States could not fill a high school auditorium, there are no real white supremacists.

When El Chapo escaped prison, it was done via an elaborate tunnel system with a motorcycle for him to make it to a safe zone. Contrast that to Wesley Gullet, a white supremacist gang leader in a prison back last August. Gullet escapes prison, only to land up in the streets with no back up; no organization to whisk him off to safety and out of the immediate reach of LEOs.

I recently watched this documentary about some group called Atomwaffen Division with a leader named James Mason. He's some kind of guru that's been around since he was 14. He looked to be an older guy now and draws a government check, lives in government subsidized housing, and eats in soup kitchens. These people have no leaders and not enough money to sustain a single leader save of the rich boy with the last name of Spencer who is spending family money, not raising money from "white supremacy." They've been as quiet as a church mouse since Charlottesville. And, as Trump said, regarding Charlottesville, there were some good people - just fed up with the status quo, but they were not white supremacists. Nothing materialized.

Being opposed to the socialist takeover of America and watching the left try to tear down all vestiges of our culture doesn't make people white supremacists. In the view of black supremacists, if you oppose their take-over, you are a white supremacist. It's ridiculous. But we can come here and observe while the heathen rage.

Spencer is spending family money? I did not know that. Even I assumed that the biggest name recognition white supremacist in the country would be able to get some money from his mailing lists.


From lib media outlets if nothing else.


Are you sure of your information on that? If so they are even more pathetic than even I realized.
He might be getting some donations from outside sources, but based on what? Does he have books, videos, a podcast, a YouTube channel or viable organization? I realize I'm not looking, but I do know in my own area that there is an active antifa group, the NAACP, black Democrats pushing their racial agenda, and we have Stacey Abrams.

WHO do these white groups have? Is there a voice, other than National Socialists, advocating a return to our foundational principles? I'm not talking about groups advocating more laws to oppose even more laws. My default is that I oppose any legislation that increases the size, power and / or scope of government. I guess I'd expect that from any "white supremacy" organization. They might be out there, but I've never met any of them - which is unusual since the head honcho of black supremacy here assures me that I'm a white supremacist.
 

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It's not that I "defend AA" so much, as I disagree with your endless whining that it ruined yours or anyone else's life, and the outright lies that you tell about "hundreds of millions of white people being hurt by it". If you were passed over, you likely were not good enough in the first place.

You have never justified how you arrived at such ridiculous numbers, you just pulled them out of your ass

If your method of reasoning was the same then as it is now, you shouldn't have been allowed to teach in a preschool.

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You keep on confirming your idiocy. Of course, I've justified how hundreds of millions of white people have been hurt by Affirmative Action. That's how many whites have lived in America since the 60s.

ALL whites in America who have lived here since the 60s have been victimized. Either by the denial of things (jobs, promotions, college, etc), or simply the possibility of those denials. Every white person has been victimized, just by the existence of AA.

You're the only person I know of who has trouble understanding that. God, you are stupid.
It's not that I "defend AA" so much, as I disagree with your endless whining that it ruined yours or anyone else's life, and the outright lies that you tell about "hundreds of millions of white people being hurt by it". If you were passed over, you likely were not good enough in the first place.

You have never justified how you arrived at such ridiculous numbers, you just pulled them out of your ass

If your method of reasoning was the same then as it is now, you shouldn't have been allowed to teach in a preschool.

.
You keep on confirming your idiocy. Of course, I've justified how hundreds of millions of white people have been hurt by Affirmative Action. That's how many whites have lived in America since the 60s.

ALL whites in America who have lived here since the 60s have been victimized. Either by the denial of things (jobs, promotions, college, etc), or simply the possibility of those denials. Every white person has been victimized, just by the existence of AA.

You're the only person I know of who has trouble understanding that. God, you are stupid.
Keep posting and validating your obvious ignorance with that lie.

All WHITES in America that have lived since the 60's? ROFLMAO!!

How about the fact that white males as a demographic hold the majority(over 70%) of executive positions in America IN SPITE of AA. Yet they account for 31% of the population?


They certainly are not victims.

What about your thread about the XFL? Their founder/owner is a white male billionaire.

He's no victim

How about the two presidents that signed AA into law

They were not victims.


How about the alleged billionaire that you worship who won't show his taxes and is currently in the white house?


He is no victim either, neither are his family.

I would even bet that there are some white people in this forum who would object to you referring to them as "victims". of any kind.


For you to say ALL white people who have lived since the 60's are victims of AA, verifies that you've proven nothing except that you have a very vivid imagination.....the kind that people are normally institutionalized for.

:cuckoo:
I'm curious to your source of information.

* What, exactly, constitutes an executive position?
* Are you counting Jews among "whites?"
* How many executive positions and what percentage of the overall jobs do they represent?
* How many of these executive positions are controlled by billionaires?

Exactly how do you think billionaires like Michael Bloomberg keep making obscene amounts of money?

How many of these executive positions would you estimate are owned by billionaires and millionaires from old or foreign money?

The race deal is getting boring if we don't use some qualitative and quantitative analysis.

Since the 1960s, a lot of companies have come here from foreign countries. Americans who grew up in the 1960s, forward have nothing to do with their control of money or jobs. I can tell you that I worked for 3 Japanese companies and they only network with other Japanese companies. I worked for one Japanese company that went as far as to even buy their warehouse supplies like tape and boxes from Japanese companies... and NO white ever got an executive position. Some of those companies I have experience with are Sony, Makita, Byokane, Ricoh, etc. How do Chinese and Japanese companies figure into these figures wherein whites make up 71 percent of the executive positions?

Foreign companies own 6 percent of all businesses in America outright. Many of those businesses are multi-million dollar businesses with sizable numbers of foreign executives. This would not count the ones they have a sizable investment and control in.

* African American-owned firms accounted for about 9% of the approximately 27.6 million U.S. businesses in 2012

Top U.S. African American-Owned Businesses

The 2019 figures:

" Minorities own an estimated 29 percent of classifiable businesses, which are growing at twice the rate of non-minority businesses. They employ more than 6.3 million Americans and generate over $1 trillion in revenue."

Celebrating the rise of minority-owned businesses

You see how confusing these stats are? Let's get on a level playing field here and get the facts.

So, let's ignore the number of businesses, billionaires, and high paid executive positions. What about the rank and file workers?

Most whites in the United States that have worked between the late 1960s and are now reaching retirement age have a horror story of being passed over for a promotion, not hired at all, or laid off to make room for a black. It's not racist to admit the truth. It's the way it was and probably still is. There are no government agencies or whites rights groups keeping a running tally (which is the white peoples fault.) But, you'd be hard pressed to find someone in that era, if the truth be told, that did not know of someone that applied to.





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In a nutshell, that was a very long post. As far as what information I referenced, leaders of fortune 500 and fortune 1000 companies are what most business analysts that I've known look to as a barometer for what is happening in corporate America. Here are an couple of examples

Fortune 500: 7 in 10 Senior Executives Are White Men

As far as how many are Jewish, I would guess that the majority count themselves as white on the census or how they identify.

As far as "most whites that have worked between the late 60"s until now, having a horror story" regarding being passed over to make room for blacks", ard you referring to MOST whites that you PERSONALLY know or are you including those that you do know.

I had my first job in 1968, which was a "rank and file job" as you call it, and even growing up in a so called progressive/liberal state like Cslifornia, there was no evidence that I saw in any walk of life there where blacks were displacing whites ar anywhere near s rate that was affecting "every white person who worked"

What I saw was a predominately white workforce and it was still a rarity to walk into a bank, a doctors office, or even the faculty lounge at a predominantly black school and see more than 2 or at the most, 3 blacks out of 10 people. It was even rare to see a black bus driver in a predominately black community or for that matter at all.

As far as the school system ar that time, in ALL of San Diego county, there were only 2 black secondary school principals and both were assigned to schools that had student bodies of over 90% black students. I know this, because my own father was one of them.

I traveled in 1969 out of California, all of the way up to Minnesota, and none of the 9 aunts and uncles on my mothers side were being placed in jobs over white people, and remembering their sentiments, that "not much had actually changed since Jim Crow was abolished in 1965".

Nothing that I have seen nor anyone that I know has seen since the late 60's remotely supports that "hundreds of millions of white people have been victimized by Affirmative Action "favoring blacks". If anything, white females have succeeded more because of affirmative action than any other demographic.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...AhAB&usg=AOvVaw1I1xMl4pL6b-KUyPq-ata0&ampcf=1


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjAOegQICRAB&usg=AOvVaw2HT9kFPD8M5LorvcOpHb3i


Based on my own work experience, I was an SVP of marketing operations for a technology company prior to retiring. I was there for almost 35 years and 1 of 2 blacks in managenent in a division with 6000 employees which was inclusive of entry level, middle and upper management.

And even blacks at the associate and intern level were not typical.
That's a lie. And it was refuted right here in this thread, in post # 887, where I informed IM2 (and YOU) of the obvious Affirmative Action discrimination at 2 VA hospitals + the Workforce Alliance center, all in the Tampa Bay area.

You know me, and you know what I have informed you of, only yesterday, in this very thread. You're lying, and not doing a very good job of it.

The only reason the Trump administration has not eradicated AA in America, is because they do the math regarding vote loss from minorities who are addicted to AA, like a drug, and who pathetically, can't exist without it.

I suspect that after the 2020 election, AA will fall fast.
Nope. Its n
It's not that I "defend AA" so much, as I disagree with your endless whining that it ruined yours or anyone else's life, and the outright lies that you tell about "hundreds of millions of white people being hurt by it". If you were passed over, you likely were not good enough in the first place.

You have never justified how you arrived at such ridiculous numbers, you just pulled them out of your ass

If your method of reasoning was the same then as it is now, you shouldn't have been allowed to teach in a preschool.

.
You keep on confirming your idiocy. Of course, I've justified how hundreds of millions of white people have been hurt by Affirmative Action. That's how many whites have lived in America since the 60s.

ALL whites in America who have lived here since the 60s have been victimized. Either by the denial of things (jobs, promotions, college, etc), or simply the possibility of those denials. Every white person has been victimized, just by the existence of AA.

You're the only person I know of who has trouble understanding that. God, you are stupid.
It's not that I "defend AA" so much, as I disagree with your endless whining that it ruined yours or anyone else's life, and the outright lies that you tell about "hundreds of millions of white people being hurt by it". If you were passed over, you likely were not good enough in the first place.

You have never justified how you arrived at such ridiculous numbers, you just pulled them out of your ass

If your method of reasoning was the same then as it is now, you shouldn't have been allowed to teach in a preschool.

.
You keep on confirming your idiocy. Of course, I've justified how hundreds of millions of white people have been hurt by Affirmative Action. That's how many whites have lived in America since the 60s.

ALL whites in America who have lived here since the 60s have been victimized. Either by the denial of things (jobs, promotions, college, etc), or simply the possibility of those denials. Every white person has been victimized, just by the existence of AA.

You're the only person I know of who has trouble understanding that. God, you are stupid.
Keep posting and validating your obvious ignorance with that lie.

All WHITES in America that have lived since the 60's? ROFLMAO!!

How about the fact that white males as a demographic hold the majority(over 70%) of executive positions in America IN SPITE of AA. Yet they account for 31% of the population?


They certainly are not victims.

What about your thread about the XFL? Their founder/owner is a white male billionaire.

He's no victim

How about the two presidents that signed AA into law

They were not victims.


How about the alleged billionaire that you worship who won't show his taxes and is currently in the white house?


He is no victim either, neither are his family.

I would even bet that there are some white people in this forum who would object to you referring to them as "victims". of any kind.


For you to say ALL white people who have lived since the 60's are victims of AA, verifies that you've proven nothing except that you have a very vivid imagination.....the kind that people are normally institutionalized for.

:cuckoo:
I'm curious to your source of information.

* What, exactly, constitutes an executive position?
* Are you counting Jews among "whites?"
* How many executive positions and what percentage of the overall jobs do they represent?
* How many of these executive positions are controlled by billionaires?

Exactly how do you think billionaires like Michael Bloomberg keep making obscene amounts of money?

How many of these executive positions would you estimate are owned by billionaires and millionaires from old or foreign money?

The race deal is getting boring if we don't use some qualitative and quantitative analysis.

Since the 1960s, a lot of companies have come here from foreign countries. Americans who grew up in the 1960s, forward have nothing to do with their control of money or jobs. I can tell you that I worked for 3 Japanese companies and they only network with other Japanese companies. I worked for one Japanese company that went as far as to even buy their warehouse supplies like tape and boxes from Japanese companies... and NO white ever got an executive position. Some of those companies I have experience with are Sony, Makita, Byokane, Ricoh, etc. How do Chinese and Japanese companies figure into these figures wherein whites make up 71 percent of the executive positions?

Foreign companies own 6 percent of all businesses in America outright. Many of those businesses are multi-million dollar businesses with sizable numbers of foreign executives. This would not count the ones they have a sizable investment and control in.

* African American-owned firms accounted for about 9% of the approximately 27.6 million U.S. businesses in 2012

Top U.S. African American-Owned Businesses

The 2019 figures:

" Minorities own an estimated 29 percent of classifiable businesses, which are growing at twice the rate of non-minority businesses. They employ more than 6.3 million Americans and generate over $1 trillion in revenue."

Celebrating the rise of minority-owned businesses

You see how confusing these stats are? Let's get on a level playing field here and get the facts.

So, let's ignore the number of businesses, billionaires, and high paid executive positions. What about the rank and file workers?

Most whites in the United States that have worked between the late 1960s and are now reaching retirement age have a horror story of being passed over for a promotion, not hired at all, or laid off to make room for a black. It's not racist to admit the truth. It's the way it was and probably still is. There are no government agencies or whites rights groups keeping a running tally (which is the white peoples fault.) But, you'd be hard pressed to find someone in that era, if the truth be told, that did not know of someone that applied to.





W

In a nutshell, that was a very long post. As far as what information I referenced, leaders of fortune 500 and fortune 1000 companies are what most business analysts that I've known look to as a barometer for what is happening in corporate America. Here are an couple of examples

Fortune 500: 7 in 10 Senior Executives Are White Men

As far as how many are Jewish, I would guess that the majority count themselves as white on the census or how they identify.

As far as "most whites that have worked between the late 60"s until now, having a horror story" regarding being passed over to make room for blacks", ard you referring to MOST whites that you PERSONALLY know or are you including those that you do know.

I had my first job in 1968, which was a "rank and file job" as you call it, and even growing up in a so called progressive/liberal state like Cslifornia, there was no evidence that I saw in any walk of life there where blacks were displacing whites ar anywhere near s rate that was affecting "every white person who worked"

What I saw was a predominately white workforce and it was still a rarity to walk into a bank, a doctors office, or even the faculty lounge at a predominantly black school and see more than 2 or at the most, 3 blacks out of 10 people. It was even rare to see a black bus driver in a predominately black community or for that matter at all.

As far as the school system ar that time, in ALL of San Diego county, there were only 2 black secondary school principals and both were assigned to schools that had student bodies of over 90% black students. I know this, because my own father was one of them.

I traveled in 1969 out of California, all of the way up to Minnesota, and none of the 9 aunts and uncles on my mothers side were being placed in jobs over white people, and remembering their sentiments, that "not much had actually changed since Jim Crow was abolished in 1965".

Nothing that I have seen nor anyone that I know has seen since the late 60's remotely supports that "hundreds of millions of white people have been victimized by Affirmative Action "favoring blacks". If anything, white females have succeeded more because of affirmative action than any other demographic.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...AhAB&usg=AOvVaw1I1xMl4pL6b-KUyPq-ata0&ampcf=1


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjAOegQICRAB&usg=AOvVaw2HT9kFPD8M5LorvcOpHb3i


Based on my own work experience, I was an SVP of marketing operations for a technology company prior to retiring. I was there for almost 35 years and 1 of 2 blacks in managenent in a division with 6000 employees which was inclusive of entry level, middle and upper management.

And even blacks at the associate and intern level were not typical.
That's a lie. And it was refuted right here in this thread, in post # 887, where I informed IM2 (and YOU) of the obvious Affirmative Action discrimination at 2 VA hospitals + the Workforce Alliance center, all in the Tampa Bay area.

You know me, and you know what I have informed you of, only yesterday, in this very thread. You're lying, and not doing a very good job of it.

The only reason the Trump administration has not eradicated AA in America, is because they do the math regarding vote loss from minorities who are addicted to AA, like a drug, and who pathetically, can't exist without it.

I suspect that after the 2020 election, AA will fall fast.
The only lies that you THINK you read are the posts that refute the nonsense that you attempt to pass off as truth.

For the 100th time, what happens in Tampa Florida at ONE VA hospital is not indicative of the ENTIRE workforce in America, you loon.

Tampa Florida is ONE city in ONE state out of an entire country, and what happens there does not indicate what is happening nationally.

If you were able to truthfully state that you've been to 10 different VA hospitals in different regions and saw a 95% black workforce, you might be considered to be almost credible.

But, face it. You ARE NOT. And it's obvious, to any sane, lucid individual that you are just a chicken little, crying wolf nutjob that needs to STFU.

And as far as tRUMP goes, if I were you, I would be much more concerned about him and his cronies gutting Medicare, Medicaid and social security to pay for the tax cuts that were initiated for corporations than AA.

Without those benefits, or "entitlements" as your self centered heroes call them, those like you would be eating garbage out of dumpsters to survive, and would then die in the street like stray animals.
 
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Keep posting and validating your obvious ignorance with that lie.

All WHITES in America that have lived since the 60's? ROFLMAO!!

How about the fact that white males as a demographic hold the majority(over 70%) of executive positions in America IN SPITE of AA. Yet they account for 31% of the population?


They certainly are not victims.

What about your thread about the XFL? Their founder/owner is a white male billionaire.

He's no victim

How about the two presidents that signed AA into law

They were not victims.


How about the alleged billionaire that you worship who won't show his taxes and is currently in the white house?

He is no victim either, neither are his family.

I would even bet that there are some white people in this forum who would object to you referring to them as "victims". of any kind.


For you to say ALL white people who have lived since the 60's are victims of AA, verifies that you've proven nothing except that you have a very vivid imagination.....the kind that people are normally institutionalized for.

:cuckoo:
Oh, so white males hold over 70% of executive positions in America, do they ? Hmm. Well how come these white male executives can't be found anywhere in the various workplaces that I mentioned in Post # 887 ? How come we go in there FOR YEARS, and never spot any of these white male executives, that your so-called "facts" (lol) claim to be exist ? Or ANY white males working there in ANY kind of job ?

1500 employees in just one (James A Haley VA Hospital) of these 3 workplaces I cited, and not a white male employee in sight. Ge see for yourself. G'wan.

As for who might be offended by my calling them a victim, I don't give a rat's ass what they're offended by. I said they are all victims, just by methodology, and I say it again right now. And it doesn't matter if ALL whites have been victims or just very many of them have. Either way, AA is malicious racist discrimination, that has hurt many millions of whites (and some other non-blacks), and you are a malicious, lowlife racist for supporting it.

As for the very rich white guys you spouted, I could post names of many indigent white guys, as well as some black multimillionaire and multibillionaires.

Top 10 Richest Blacks In America - RichestBlacks.com
ROFLMAO!. So now you're suddenly backpedaling from "All whites since the 1960's being victims of AA, to A LOT'?

Apparantly now you understand how mentally impaired that statement made you appear to be.

Why are you basing your entire observation of the racial makeup of the general work force on VA hospitals?

Do you live there?

The work force in America is made up of more than "VA hospitals", you imbecile.

Fortune 500 and Fortune 1000 companies average upper management teams IN AMERICA are typically 70 to 75% white males.

Look it up.

That includes directors, vice presidents, and even middle managers. In case you didn't know it, they are considered "executives"

In the 1960"s that percentage was far higher, because white females were not as common in those types of positions prior to AA.

As for the "VERY wealthy, white guys that I pointed out, and it was only just a few, my point was that they collectively represent a far higher percentage than any other demographic in America with 76% of millionaires in Anerica being white.

I doubt that any of them are "victims", nor do I think that the black 8% of Americas millionaires has had any effect on the well being of the 76%, of whites who are millionaires.

Nor has that 8% affected a nobody like you.

Breakdown of U.S. millionaires by race | Statista


And who said there aren't any indigent white guys out there?

YOU, are apparently one of them.

They exist in all races, stupid.

Next, you will likely vomit some nonsense like the wealthy blacks from your link, are wealthy because some poor schlub like you got the shaft.


SDMGDH

You are a nutcase.
I looked at my post that you quoted, and I don't see the words "A LOT". So what is this"backpedaling" you speak of ? I backpedaled nothing, whatsoever.

In fact, in my post you quoted, I reiterated that since AA has been around, ALL whites have been victimized by it.

Some people have to be told twice. :rolleyes:

I also never said I was basing my entire observation of the racial makeup of the whole workforce on VA hospitals. YOU said that, Mr Incompetent Strawman. I simply pointed to 3 very illustrative examples.

I would feel pretty safe though, if I were to bet that all the VA hospitals in America, in cities with ample populations of minorities, are just like the ones I mentioned.

I could mention many more examples, but there's no need to go through all that trouble. This is a clear cut very obvious scenario, that you simply choose to lie about, because you know you bear guilt as a supporter of this 42 state disgrace, and as such, you're ashamed of yourself.

Rather than admit you've been wrong, and a racist hypocrite, you choose to try to deflect/smother what you know to be true, by creating a false picture of not only employment, but also college enrollments, financial aid, business loans, etc.

You're 100% fake and a buffoon, with very few posters in this forum falling for your pitiful drivel. Stop posting and learn how to play the guitar.

Maybe after 10 years or so, and lots of lessons, you'll become able to not only play the guitar, but also the harmonica, mandolin, and violin/fiddle, like me. I might even let you rosin my bow for me, if you're good enough to do that. :biggrin:

You are right. Some people need to be told twice. Here is what you quoted:

"As for who might be offended by my calling them a victim, I don't give a rat's ass what they're offended by. I said they are all victims, just by methodology, and I say it again right now. And it doesn't matter if ALL whites have been victims or just very many of them have"

"
Very many"....as in A LOT. What's the difference? Spoon feeding your senility is getting old.

As far as the rest of you infantile whinefest, go ahead and mention "other examples" and they will promptly be shown to yet more figments of your imagination. What happened to you as a failure decades ago is your problem, not anyone elses.

The fact that you continue to point to the VA hospital as your measure of proof in addition to your being a perpetual victim of something that happened decades ago, is evidence enough that you are nothing but a bitter old fool who feels sorry for himself and wants sympathy.

As for college admission, financial aid, and employment statistic , you cannot and have not proven that blacks have been displacing whites at the imaginary rate of "hundreds of millions since the 1960's"

That is some made up bullshit by you, and your shrill histrionics when challenged on such foolishness proves it in every post that you put up.


If I ever happen to come back to Florida, I may deposit a few coins in your tin cup if I see you playing a violin on a street corner.



 

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Most of what you're saying is inaccurate. Let us begin here:

Asians include Koreans, Japanese, and Chinese. The fact of the matter is, those countries are ALL more than 90 percent homogeneous. Japan claims to be the most racially pure country in the world. Those people who are homogeneous tend to have higher IQs than those who come from mixed race societies. Since there are more Chinese in China than there are white people on the face of the earth - and 91.5 percent of China is Han Chinese, I'd expect them (like Japanese Koreans 98 plus percent homogeneous) to score better than the mixed race Americans.

Secondly, Jesus was NOT olive skinned and eye witness accounts dispute that. If you studied the life of Jesus, in his missing years (years unaccounted for in the Bible), you can pick up on secular history showing that Jesus was with his great uncle in Britain, Joseph of Arimathea, showing that Jesus' great uncle was an Anglo Saxon.

There are a lot of people with a vested interest in trying to hide secular history in order to justify propping up beliefs that science and archaeology have factually refuted. While I did not fully vet this site personally, it seems to contain a brief factual recollection of the facts:

Joseph of Arimathea and the Missing Years of Christ

I don't know the DNA of most people, but there seems to be this mistaken belief that if you have so much as a drop of non-white blood in you that you are not white. Talk about reverse discrimination! If you have any non-white blood in you, then you should reject your racial heritage and embrace that of being a Neanderthal, a third worlder, and - if I'm understanding your line of reasoning... we must be descendants of monkeys.

If any of what you say were even remotely true, different branches of science, archaeology, forensics, etc. would not have conflicting opinions. Using history as a measuring rod, the most popular views (like the one you're promoting) are the ones most likely to be proven false in time.

There is a better standard for measuring the white people, but that is not the subject of the OP. They do have a history and a destiny - no matter how hard modernists try to sweep it under the rug and wage a subtle war of cultural racial and ethnic genocide against them.
You poor deluded soul.
I'm a poor deluded soul for not wallowing in false guilt and self hatred. How mighty left of you!
You're a white supremacist son. THE prime example of the problem. We all have a history and destiny. No one races destiny is any greater than any other race. There is no genocide being waged against white people. Stop listening to satan, boy.

Yet when he started two threads, stating and defending his primary beliefs, and threw down the gauntlet to you lefties about them,


you lefties, you included, by and large, ran and hid. Almost like you were afraid to face him.


THe few lefties that tried, made fools of themselves. They tried. He destroyed them. Then all they had left was the most pathetic stonewalling and stupid games...


well, you a lib, so you know what happens when you get suckered into actually defending your positions.


SO, make sure to make your jibs, and your gotcha zingers, then run away.

It may have been on this very thread, but it was one in which I stated my beliefs about why America was as it was - and turned out that the thread regarding our Christian founding was posted for discussion. It was ultimately derailed by one man with a fragile ego and nothing to support his name calling and false allegations.

No matter what subject the left supposedly wants to talk about, once you address it, they want to change the subject. In the instant case, the subject is supposedly a question about what white supremacy is.

With the exception of a very small number of people - and we're talking numbers so small that ALL of them combined in the United States could not fill a high school auditorium, there are no real white supremacists.

When El Chapo escaped prison, it was done via an elaborate tunnel system with a motorcycle for him to make it to a safe zone. Contrast that to Wesley Gullet, a white supremacist gang leader in a prison back last August. Gullet escapes prison, only to land up in the streets with no back up; no organization to whisk him off to safety and out of the immediate reach of LEOs.

I recently watched this documentary about some group called Atomwaffen Division with a leader named James Mason. He's some kind of guru that's been around since he was 14. He looked to be an older guy now and draws a government check, lives in government subsidized housing, and eats in soup kitchens. These people have no leaders and not enough money to sustain a single leader save of the rich boy with the last name of Spencer who is spending family money, not raising money from "white supremacy." They've been as quiet as a church mouse since Charlottesville. And, as Trump said, regarding Charlottesville, there were some good people - just fed up with the status quo, but they were not white supremacists. Nothing materialized.

Being opposed to the socialist takeover of America and watching the left try to tear down all vestiges of our culture doesn't make people white supremacists. In the view of black supremacists, if you oppose their take-over, you are a white supremacist. It's ridiculous. But we can come here and observe while the heathen rage.
You are a white supremacist, so don't try telling the lie that they don't exist.
 

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I'm a poor deluded soul for not wallowing in false guilt and self hatred. How mighty left of you!
You're a white supremacist son. THE prime example of the problem. We all have a history and destiny. No one races destiny is any greater than any other race. There is no genocide being waged against white people. Stop listening to satan, boy.

Yet when he started two threads, stating and defending his primary beliefs, and threw down the gauntlet to you lefties about them,


you lefties, you included, by and large, ran and hid. Almost like you were afraid to face him.


THe few lefties that tried, made fools of themselves. They tried. He destroyed them. Then all they had left was the most pathetic stonewalling and stupid games...


well, you a lib, so you know what happens when you get suckered into actually defending your positions.


SO, make sure to make your jibs, and your gotcha zingers, then run away.

It may have been on this very thread, but it was one in which I stated my beliefs about why America was as it was - and turned out that the thread regarding our Christian founding was posted for discussion. It was ultimately derailed by one man with a fragile ego and nothing to support his name calling and false allegations.

No matter what subject the left supposedly wants to talk about, once you address it, they want to change the subject. In the instant case, the subject is supposedly a question about what white supremacy is.

With the exception of a very small number of people - and we're talking numbers so small that ALL of them combined in the United States could not fill a high school auditorium, there are no real white supremacists.

When El Chapo escaped prison, it was done via an elaborate tunnel system with a motorcycle for him to make it to a safe zone. Contrast that to Wesley Gullet, a white supremacist gang leader in a prison back last August. Gullet escapes prison, only to land up in the streets with no back up; no organization to whisk him off to safety and out of the immediate reach of LEOs.

I recently watched this documentary about some group called Atomwaffen Division with a leader named James Mason. He's some kind of guru that's been around since he was 14. He looked to be an older guy now and draws a government check, lives in government subsidized housing, and eats in soup kitchens. These people have no leaders and not enough money to sustain a single leader save of the rich boy with the last name of Spencer who is spending family money, not raising money from "white supremacy." They've been as quiet as a church mouse since Charlottesville. And, as Trump said, regarding Charlottesville, there were some good people - just fed up with the status quo, but they were not white supremacists. Nothing materialized.

Being opposed to the socialist takeover of America and watching the left try to tear down all vestiges of our culture doesn't make people white supremacists. In the view of black supremacists, if you oppose their take-over, you are a white supremacist. It's ridiculous. But we can come here and observe while the heathen rage.

Spencer is spending family money? I did not know that. Even I assumed that the biggest name recognition white supremacist in the country would be able to get some money from his mailing lists.


From lib media outlets if nothing else.


Are you sure of your information on that? If so they are even more pathetic than even I realized.
He might be getting some donations from outside sources, but based on what? Does he have books, videos, a podcast, a YouTube channel or viable organization? I realize I'm not looking, but I do know in my own area that there is an active antifa group, the NAACP, black Democrats pushing their racial agenda, and we have Stacey Abrams.

WHO do these white groups have? Is there a voice, other than National Socialists, advocating a return to our foundational principles? I'm not talking about groups advocating more laws to oppose even more laws. My default is that I oppose any legislation that increases the size, power and / or scope of government. I guess I'd expect that from any "white supremacy" organization. They might be out there, but I've never met any of them - which is unusual since the head honcho of black supremacy here assures me that I'm a white supremacist.
Whites have almost every institution at every level of government. You've never met a white supremacist but you post shitloads of white supremacist ideology.
 

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Anyone here ever seen or had a "interaction" with a actual proven card caring "white supremacist"? I've been assaulted , punched, robbed and had a hell of lot of negative interactions with black MALES and I'm supposed to worry about "white supremacists"? Why?
 

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It's not that I "defend AA" so much, as I disagree with your endless whining that it ruined yours or anyone else's life, and the outright lies that you tell about "hundreds of millions of white people being hurt by it". If you were passed over, you likely were not good enough in the first place.

You have never justified how you arrived at such ridiculous numbers, you just pulled them out of your ass

If your method of reasoning was the same then as it is now, you shouldn't have been allowed to teach in a preschool.

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You keep on confirming your idiocy. Of course, I've justified how hundreds of millions of white people have been hurt by Affirmative Action. That's how many whites have lived in America since the 60s.

ALL whites in America who have lived here since the 60s have been victimized. Either by the denial of things (jobs, promotions, college, etc), or simply the possibility of those denials. Every white person has been victimized, just by the existence of AA.

You're the only person I know of who has trouble understanding that. God, you are stupid.
It's not that I "defend AA" so much, as I disagree with your endless whining that it ruined yours or anyone else's life, and the outright lies that you tell about "hundreds of millions of white people being hurt by it". If you were passed over, you likely were not good enough in the first place.

You have never justified how you arrived at such ridiculous numbers, you just pulled them out of your ass

If your method of reasoning was the same then as it is now, you shouldn't have been allowed to teach in a preschool.

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You keep on confirming your idiocy. Of course, I've justified how hundreds of millions of white people have been hurt by Affirmative Action. That's how many whites have lived in America since the 60s.

ALL whites in America who have lived here since the 60s have been victimized. Either by the denial of things (jobs, promotions, college, etc), or simply the possibility of those denials. Every white person has been victimized, just by the existence of AA.

You're the only person I know of who has trouble understanding that. God, you are stupid.
Keep posting and validating your obvious ignorance with that lie.

All WHITES in America that have lived since the 60's? ROFLMAO!!

How about the fact that white males as a demographic hold the majority(over 70%) of executive positions in America IN SPITE of AA. Yet they account for 31% of the population?


They certainly are not victims.

What about your thread about the XFL? Their founder/owner is a white male billionaire.

He's no victim

How about the two presidents that signed AA into law

They were not victims.


How about the alleged billionaire that you worship who won't show his taxes and is currently in the white house?


He is no victim either, neither are his family.

I would even bet that there are some white people in this forum who would object to you referring to them as "victims". of any kind.


For you to say ALL white people who have lived since the 60's are victims of AA, verifies that you've proven nothing except that you have a very vivid imagination.....the kind that people are normally institutionalized for.

:cuckoo:
I'm curious to your source of information.

* What, exactly, constitutes an executive position?
* Are you counting Jews among "whites?"
* How many executive positions and what percentage of the overall jobs do they represent?
* How many of these executive positions are controlled by billionaires?

Exactly how do you think billionaires like Michael Bloomberg keep making obscene amounts of money?

How many of these executive positions would you estimate are owned by billionaires and millionaires from old or foreign money?

The race deal is getting boring if we don't use some qualitative and quantitative analysis.

Since the 1960s, a lot of companies have come here from foreign countries. Americans who grew up in the 1960s, forward have nothing to do with their control of money or jobs. I can tell you that I worked for 3 Japanese companies and they only network with other Japanese companies. I worked for one Japanese company that went as far as to even buy their warehouse supplies like tape and boxes from Japanese companies... and NO white ever got an executive position. Some of those companies I have experience with are Sony, Makita, Byokane, Ricoh, etc. How do Chinese and Japanese companies figure into these figures wherein whites make up 71 percent of the executive positions?

Foreign companies own 6 percent of all businesses in America outright. Many of those businesses are multi-million dollar businesses with sizable numbers of foreign executives. This would not count the ones they have a sizable investment and control in.

* African American-owned firms accounted for about 9% of the approximately 27.6 million U.S. businesses in 2012

Top U.S. African American-Owned Businesses

The 2019 figures:

" Minorities own an estimated 29 percent of classifiable businesses, which are growing at twice the rate of non-minority businesses. They employ more than 6.3 million Americans and generate over $1 trillion in revenue."

Celebrating the rise of minority-owned businesses

You see how confusing these stats are? Let's get on a level playing field here and get the facts.

So, let's ignore the number of businesses, billionaires, and high paid executive positions. What about the rank and file workers?

Most whites in the United States that have worked between the late 1960s and are now reaching retirement age have a horror story of being passed over for a promotion, not hired at all, or laid off to make room for a black. It's not racist to admit the truth. It's the way it was and probably still is. There are no government agencies or whites rights groups keeping a running tally (which is the white peoples fault.) But, you'd be hard pressed to find someone in that era, if the truth be told, that did not know of someone that applied to.





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In a nutshell, that was a very long post. As far as what information I referenced, leaders of fortune 500 and fortune 1000 companies are what most business analysts that I've known look to as a barometer for what is happening in corporate America. Here are an couple of examples

Fortune 500: 7 in 10 Senior Executives Are White Men

As far as how many are Jewish, I would guess that the majority count themselves as white on the census or how they identify.

As far as "most whites that have worked between the late 60"s until now, having a horror story" regarding being passed over to make room for blacks", ard you referring to MOST whites that you PERSONALLY know or are you including those that you do know.

I had my first job in 1968, which was a "rank and file job" as you call it, and even growing up in a so called progressive/liberal state like Cslifornia, there was no evidence that I saw in any walk of life there where blacks were displacing whites ar anywhere near s rate that was affecting "every white person who worked"

What I saw was a predominately white workforce and it was still a rarity to walk into a bank, a doctors office, or even the faculty lounge at a predominantly black school and see more than 2 or at the most, 3 blacks out of 10 people. It was even rare to see a black bus driver in a predominately black community or for that matter at all.

As far as the school system ar that time, in ALL of San Diego county, there were only 2 black secondary school principals and both were assigned to schools that had student bodies of over 90% black students. I know this, because my own father was one of them.

I traveled in 1969 out of California, all of the way up to Minnesota, and none of the 9 aunts and uncles on my mothers side were being placed in jobs over white people, and remembering their sentiments, that "not much had actually changed since Jim Crow was abolished in 1965".

Nothing that I have seen nor anyone that I know has seen since the late 60's remotely supports that "hundreds of millions of white people have been victimized by Affirmative Action "favoring blacks". If anything, white females have succeeded more because of affirmative action than any other demographic.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...AhAB&usg=AOvVaw1I1xMl4pL6b-KUyPq-ata0&ampcf=1


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjAOegQICRAB&usg=AOvVaw2HT9kFPD8M5LorvcOpHb3i


Based on my own work experience, I was an SVP of marketing operations for a technology company prior to retiring. I was there for almost 35 years and 1 of 2 blacks in managenent in a division with 6000 employees which was inclusive of entry level, middle and upper management.

And even blacks at the associate and intern level were not typical.

You live in one of those enclaves that didn't see much growth. I live in what was the fastest growing couny in the United States in 1980. Whites were 83 percent of the population in the 1980 census. Today, they are 49 percent of the county's residents and we are almost 5 times more populous over that time period.

I go to a medical facility with over 250 medical personnel. I can fit all the whites into one minivan. I worked for a company that had 53 employees. Of those, only 7 were white and only two supervisors were white. The government offices here are filled with Muslims and various other sundry foreigners and, for the first time since Reagan was elected, the county will swing Democrat.

Whites and many Jews do not count Jews as white. They are actually descended from Asiatic Khazars (see the book The Thirteenth Tribe by Arthur Koestler.)

My experiences were 180 degrees opposite of what you experienced. So, maybe I should share some of our stats with you.
Just out of curiosity, what general geographic region is this in?
 

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You poor deluded soul.
I'm a poor deluded soul for not wallowing in false guilt and self hatred. How mighty left of you!
You're a white supremacist son. THE prime example of the problem. We all have a history and destiny. No one races destiny is any greater than any other race. There is no genocide being waged against white people. Stop listening to satan, boy.

Yet when he started two threads, stating and defending his primary beliefs, and threw down the gauntlet to you lefties about them,


you lefties, you included, by and large, ran and hid. Almost like you were afraid to face him.


THe few lefties that tried, made fools of themselves. They tried. He destroyed them. Then all they had left was the most pathetic stonewalling and stupid games...


well, you a lib, so you know what happens when you get suckered into actually defending your positions.


SO, make sure to make your jibs, and your gotcha zingers, then run away.

It may have been on this very thread, but it was one in which I stated my beliefs about why America was as it was - and turned out that the thread regarding our Christian founding was posted for discussion. It was ultimately derailed by one man with a fragile ego and nothing to support his name calling and false allegations.

No matter what subject the left supposedly wants to talk about, once you address it, they want to change the subject. In the instant case, the subject is supposedly a question about what white supremacy is.

With the exception of a very small number of people - and we're talking numbers so small that ALL of them combined in the United States could not fill a high school auditorium, there are no real white supremacists.

When El Chapo escaped prison, it was done via an elaborate tunnel system with a motorcycle for him to make it to a safe zone. Contrast that to Wesley Gullet, a white supremacist gang leader in a prison back last August. Gullet escapes prison, only to land up in the streets with no back up; no organization to whisk him off to safety and out of the immediate reach of LEOs.

I recently watched this documentary about some group called Atomwaffen Division with a leader named James Mason. He's some kind of guru that's been around since he was 14. He looked to be an older guy now and draws a government check, lives in government subsidized housing, and eats in soup kitchens. These people have no leaders and not enough money to sustain a single leader save of the rich boy with the last name of Spencer who is spending family money, not raising money from "white supremacy." They've been as quiet as a church mouse since Charlottesville. And, as Trump said, regarding Charlottesville, there were some good people - just fed up with the status quo, but they were not white supremacists. Nothing materialized.

Being opposed to the socialist takeover of America and watching the left try to tear down all vestiges of our culture doesn't make people white supremacists. In the view of black supremacists, if you oppose their take-over, you are a white supremacist. It's ridiculous. But we can come here and observe while the heathen rage.
You are a white supremacist, so don't try telling the lie that they don't exist.
You poor deluded soul.
I'm a poor deluded soul for not wallowing in false guilt and self hatred. How mighty left of you!
You're a white supremacist son. THE prime example of the problem. We all have a history and destiny. No one races destiny is any greater than any other race. There is no genocide being waged against white people. Stop listening to satan, boy.

Yet when he started two threads, stating and defending his primary beliefs, and threw down the gauntlet to you lefties about them,


you lefties, you included, by and large, ran and hid. Almost like you were afraid to face him.


THe few lefties that tried, made fools of themselves. They tried. He destroyed them. Then all they had left was the most pathetic stonewalling and stupid games...


well, you a lib, so you know what happens when you get suckered into actually defending your positions.


SO, make sure to make your jibs, and your gotcha zingers, then run away.

It may have been on this very thread, but it was one in which I stated my beliefs about why America was as it was - and turned out that the thread regarding our Christian founding was posted for discussion. It was ultimately derailed by one man with a fragile ego and nothing to support his name calling and false allegations.

No matter what subject the left supposedly wants to talk about, once you address it, they want to change the subject. In the instant case, the subject is supposedly a question about what white supremacy is.

With the exception of a very small number of people - and we're talking numbers so small that ALL of them combined in the United States could not fill a high school auditorium, there are no real white supremacists.

When El Chapo escaped prison, it was done via an elaborate tunnel system with a motorcycle for him to make it to a safe zone. Contrast that to Wesley Gullet, a white supremacist gang leader in a prison back last August. Gullet escapes prison, only to land up in the streets with no back up; no organization to whisk him off to safety and out of the immediate reach of LEOs.

I recently watched this documentary about some group called Atomwaffen Division with a leader named James Mason. He's some kind of guru that's been around since he was 14. He looked to be an older guy now and draws a government check, lives in government subsidized housing, and eats in soup kitchens. These people have no leaders and not enough money to sustain a single leader save of the rich boy with the last name of Spencer who is spending family money, not raising money from "white supremacy." They've been as quiet as a church mouse since Charlottesville. And, as Trump said, regarding Charlottesville, there were some good people - just fed up with the status quo, but they were not white supremacists. Nothing materialized.

Being opposed to the socialist takeover of America and watching the left try to tear down all vestiges of our culture doesn't make people white supremacists. In the view of black supremacists, if you oppose their take-over, you are a white supremacist. It's ridiculous. But we can come here and observe while the heathen rage.
You are a white supremacist, so don't try telling the lie that they don't exist.
Everybody that refuses to affix their lips to your ass is a white supremacist, but if people felt like I do, they are in hiding. I don't currently know any. That says a lot for a guy that grew up working all around the old time movers and shakers.
 

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You're a white supremacist son. THE prime example of the problem. We all have a history and destiny. No one races destiny is any greater than any other race. There is no genocide being waged against white people. Stop listening to satan, boy.

Yet when he started two threads, stating and defending his primary beliefs, and threw down the gauntlet to you lefties about them,


you lefties, you included, by and large, ran and hid. Almost like you were afraid to face him.


THe few lefties that tried, made fools of themselves. They tried. He destroyed them. Then all they had left was the most pathetic stonewalling and stupid games...


well, you a lib, so you know what happens when you get suckered into actually defending your positions.


SO, make sure to make your jibs, and your gotcha zingers, then run away.

It may have been on this very thread, but it was one in which I stated my beliefs about why America was as it was - and turned out that the thread regarding our Christian founding was posted for discussion. It was ultimately derailed by one man with a fragile ego and nothing to support his name calling and false allegations.

No matter what subject the left supposedly wants to talk about, once you address it, they want to change the subject. In the instant case, the subject is supposedly a question about what white supremacy is.

With the exception of a very small number of people - and we're talking numbers so small that ALL of them combined in the United States could not fill a high school auditorium, there are no real white supremacists.

When El Chapo escaped prison, it was done via an elaborate tunnel system with a motorcycle for him to make it to a safe zone. Contrast that to Wesley Gullet, a white supremacist gang leader in a prison back last August. Gullet escapes prison, only to land up in the streets with no back up; no organization to whisk him off to safety and out of the immediate reach of LEOs.

I recently watched this documentary about some group called Atomwaffen Division with a leader named James Mason. He's some kind of guru that's been around since he was 14. He looked to be an older guy now and draws a government check, lives in government subsidized housing, and eats in soup kitchens. These people have no leaders and not enough money to sustain a single leader save of the rich boy with the last name of Spencer who is spending family money, not raising money from "white supremacy." They've been as quiet as a church mouse since Charlottesville. And, as Trump said, regarding Charlottesville, there were some good people - just fed up with the status quo, but they were not white supremacists. Nothing materialized.

Being opposed to the socialist takeover of America and watching the left try to tear down all vestiges of our culture doesn't make people white supremacists. In the view of black supremacists, if you oppose their take-over, you are a white supremacist. It's ridiculous. But we can come here and observe while the heathen rage.

Spencer is spending family money? I did not know that. Even I assumed that the biggest name recognition white supremacist in the country would be able to get some money from his mailing lists.


From lib media outlets if nothing else.


Are you sure of your information on that? If so they are even more pathetic than even I realized.
He might be getting some donations from outside sources, but based on what? Does he have books, videos, a podcast, a YouTube channel or viable organization? I realize I'm not looking, but I do know in my own area that there is an active antifa group, the NAACP, black Democrats pushing their racial agenda, and we have Stacey Abrams.

WHO do these white groups have? Is there a voice, other than National Socialists, advocating a return to our foundational principles? I'm not talking about groups advocating more laws to oppose even more laws. My default is that I oppose any legislation that increases the size, power and / or scope of government. I guess I'd expect that from any "white supremacy" organization. They might be out there, but I've never met any of them - which is unusual since the head honcho of black supremacy here assures me that I'm a white supremacist.
Whites have almost every institution at every level of government. You've never met a white supremacist but you post shitloads of white supremacist ideology.
That is absolute nonsense, not supported by a single fact.
 

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Yet when he started two threads, stating and defending his primary beliefs, and threw down the gauntlet to you lefties about them,


you lefties, you included, by and large, ran and hid. Almost like you were afraid to face him.


THe few lefties that tried, made fools of themselves. They tried. He destroyed them. Then all they had left was the most pathetic stonewalling and stupid games...


well, you a lib, so you know what happens when you get suckered into actually defending your positions.


SO, make sure to make your jibs, and your gotcha zingers, then run away.

It may have been on this very thread, but it was one in which I stated my beliefs about why America was as it was - and turned out that the thread regarding our Christian founding was posted for discussion. It was ultimately derailed by one man with a fragile ego and nothing to support his name calling and false allegations.

No matter what subject the left supposedly wants to talk about, once you address it, they want to change the subject. In the instant case, the subject is supposedly a question about what white supremacy is.

With the exception of a very small number of people - and we're talking numbers so small that ALL of them combined in the United States could not fill a high school auditorium, there are no real white supremacists.

When El Chapo escaped prison, it was done via an elaborate tunnel system with a motorcycle for him to make it to a safe zone. Contrast that to Wesley Gullet, a white supremacist gang leader in a prison back last August. Gullet escapes prison, only to land up in the streets with no back up; no organization to whisk him off to safety and out of the immediate reach of LEOs.

I recently watched this documentary about some group called Atomwaffen Division with a leader named James Mason. He's some kind of guru that's been around since he was 14. He looked to be an older guy now and draws a government check, lives in government subsidized housing, and eats in soup kitchens. These people have no leaders and not enough money to sustain a single leader save of the rich boy with the last name of Spencer who is spending family money, not raising money from "white supremacy." They've been as quiet as a church mouse since Charlottesville. And, as Trump said, regarding Charlottesville, there were some good people - just fed up with the status quo, but they were not white supremacists. Nothing materialized.

Being opposed to the socialist takeover of America and watching the left try to tear down all vestiges of our culture doesn't make people white supremacists. In the view of black supremacists, if you oppose their take-over, you are a white supremacist. It's ridiculous. But we can come here and observe while the heathen rage.

Spencer is spending family money? I did not know that. Even I assumed that the biggest name recognition white supremacist in the country would be able to get some money from his mailing lists.


From lib media outlets if nothing else.


Are you sure of your information on that? If so they are even more pathetic than even I realized.
He might be getting some donations from outside sources, but based on what? Does he have books, videos, a podcast, a YouTube channel or viable organization? I realize I'm not looking, but I do know in my own area that there is an active antifa group, the NAACP, black Democrats pushing their racial agenda, and we have Stacey Abrams.

WHO do these white groups have? Is there a voice, other than National Socialists, advocating a return to our foundational principles? I'm not talking about groups advocating more laws to oppose even more laws. My default is that I oppose any legislation that increases the size, power and / or scope of government. I guess I'd expect that from any "white supremacy" organization. They might be out there, but I've never met any of them - which is unusual since the head honcho of black supremacy here assures me that I'm a white supremacist.
Whites have almost every institution at every level of government. You've never met a white supremacist but you post shitloads of white supremacist ideology.
That is absolute nonsense, not supported by a single fact.
It is supported by all the facts. In fact it's undeniable. You you aren't going to get to play the white victim card here. Nor do you get to post white supremacist bullshit then claim it doesn't exist. There are no black supremacists here boy, and that's another false equivalence used by white supremacists.
 

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You poor deluded soul.
I'm a poor deluded soul for not wallowing in false guilt and self hatred. How mighty left of you!
You're a white supremacist son. THE prime example of the problem. We all have a history and destiny. No one races destiny is any greater than any other race. There is no genocide being waged against white people. Stop listening to satan, boy.

Yet when he started two threads, stating and defending his primary beliefs, and threw down the gauntlet to you lefties about them,


you lefties, you included, by and large, ran and hid. Almost like you were afraid to face him.


THe few lefties that tried, made fools of themselves. They tried. He destroyed them. Then all they had left was the most pathetic stonewalling and stupid games...


well, you a lib, so you know what happens when you get suckered into actually defending your positions.


SO, make sure to make your jibs, and your gotcha zingers, then run away.

It may have been on this very thread, but it was one in which I stated my beliefs about why America was as it was - and turned out that the thread regarding our Christian founding was posted for discussion. It was ultimately derailed by one man with a fragile ego and nothing to support his name calling and false allegations.

No matter what subject the left supposedly wants to talk about, once you address it, they want to change the subject. In the instant case, the subject is supposedly a question about what white supremacy is.

With the exception of a very small number of people - and we're talking numbers so small that ALL of them combined in the United States could not fill a high school auditorium, there are no real white supremacists.

When El Chapo escaped prison, it was done via an elaborate tunnel system with a motorcycle for him to make it to a safe zone. Contrast that to Wesley Gullet, a white supremacist gang leader in a prison back last August. Gullet escapes prison, only to land up in the streets with no back up; no organization to whisk him off to safety and out of the immediate reach of LEOs.

I recently watched this documentary about some group called Atomwaffen Division with a leader named James Mason. He's some kind of guru that's been around since he was 14. He looked to be an older guy now and draws a government check, lives in government subsidized housing, and eats in soup kitchens. These people have no leaders and not enough money to sustain a single leader save of the rich boy with the last name of Spencer who is spending family money, not raising money from "white supremacy." They've been as quiet as a church mouse since Charlottesville. And, as Trump said, regarding Charlottesville, there were some good people - just fed up with the status quo, but they were not white supremacists. Nothing materialized.

Being opposed to the socialist takeover of America and watching the left try to tear down all vestiges of our culture doesn't make people white supremacists. In the view of black supremacists, if you oppose their take-over, you are a white supremacist. It's ridiculous. But we can come here and observe while the heathen rage.
You are a white supremacist, so don't try telling the lie that they don't exist.
You keep on confirming your idiocy. Of course, I've justified how hundreds of millions of white people have been hurt by Affirmative Action. That's how many whites have lived in America since the 60s.

ALL whites in America who have lived here since the 60s have been victimized. Either by the denial of things (jobs, promotions, college, etc), or simply the possibility of those denials. Every white person has been victimized, just by the existence of AA.

You're the only person I know of who has trouble understanding that. God, you are stupid.
You keep on confirming your idiocy. Of course, I've justified how hundreds of millions of white people have been hurt by Affirmative Action. That's how many whites have lived in America since the 60s.

ALL whites in America who have lived here since the 60s have been victimized. Either by the denial of things (jobs, promotions, college, etc), or simply the possibility of those denials. Every white person has been victimized, just by the existence of AA.

You're the only person I know of who has trouble understanding that. God, you are stupid.
Keep posting and validating your obvious ignorance with that lie.

All WHITES in America that have lived since the 60's? ROFLMAO!!

How about the fact that white males as a demographic hold the majority(over 70%) of executive positions in America IN SPITE of AA. Yet they account for 31% of the population?


They certainly are not victims.

What about your thread about the XFL? Their founder/owner is a white male billionaire.

He's no victim

How about the two presidents that signed AA into law

They were not victims.


How about the alleged billionaire that you worship who won't show his taxes and is currently in the white house?


He is no victim either, neither are his family.

I would even bet that there are some white people in this forum who would object to you referring to them as "victims". of any kind.


For you to say ALL white people who have lived since the 60's are victims of AA, verifies that you've proven nothing except that you have a very vivid imagination.....the kind that people are normally institutionalized for.

:cuckoo:
I'm curious to your source of information.

* What, exactly, constitutes an executive position?
* Are you counting Jews among "whites?"
* How many executive positions and what percentage of the overall jobs do they represent?
* How many of these executive positions are controlled by billionaires?

Exactly how do you think billionaires like Michael Bloomberg keep making obscene amounts of money?

How many of these executive positions would you estimate are owned by billionaires and millionaires from old or foreign money?

The race deal is getting boring if we don't use some qualitative and quantitative analysis.

Since the 1960s, a lot of companies have come here from foreign countries. Americans who grew up in the 1960s, forward have nothing to do with their control of money or jobs. I can tell you that I worked for 3 Japanese companies and they only network with other Japanese companies. I worked for one Japanese company that went as far as to even buy their warehouse supplies like tape and boxes from Japanese companies... and NO white ever got an executive position. Some of those companies I have experience with are Sony, Makita, Byokane, Ricoh, etc. How do Chinese and Japanese companies figure into these figures wherein whites make up 71 percent of the executive positions?

Foreign companies own 6 percent of all businesses in America outright. Many of those businesses are multi-million dollar businesses with sizable numbers of foreign executives. This would not count the ones they have a sizable investment and control in.

* African American-owned firms accounted for about 9% of the approximately 27.6 million U.S. businesses in 2012

Top U.S. African American-Owned Businesses

The 2019 figures:

" Minorities own an estimated 29 percent of classifiable businesses, which are growing at twice the rate of non-minority businesses. They employ more than 6.3 million Americans and generate over $1 trillion in revenue."

Celebrating the rise of minority-owned businesses

You see how confusing these stats are? Let's get on a level playing field here and get the facts.

So, let's ignore the number of businesses, billionaires, and high paid executive positions. What about the rank and file workers?

Most whites in the United States that have worked between the late 1960s and are now reaching retirement age have a horror story of being passed over for a promotion, not hired at all, or laid off to make room for a black. It's not racist to admit the truth. It's the way it was and probably still is. There are no government agencies or whites rights groups keeping a running tally (which is the white peoples fault.) But, you'd be hard pressed to find someone in that era, if the truth be told, that did not know of someone that applied to.





W

In a nutshell, that was a very long post. As far as what information I referenced, leaders of fortune 500 and fortune 1000 companies are what most business analysts that I've known look to as a barometer for what is happening in corporate America. Here are an couple of examples

Fortune 500: 7 in 10 Senior Executives Are White Men

As far as how many are Jewish, I would guess that the majority count themselves as white on the census or how they identify.

As far as "most whites that have worked between the late 60"s until now, having a horror story" regarding being passed over to make room for blacks", ard you referring to MOST whites that you PERSONALLY know or are you including those that you do know.

I had my first job in 1968, which was a "rank and file job" as you call it, and even growing up in a so called progressive/liberal state like Cslifornia, there was no evidence that I saw in any walk of life there where blacks were displacing whites ar anywhere near s rate that was affecting "every white person who worked"

What I saw was a predominately white workforce and it was still a rarity to walk into a bank, a doctors office, or even the faculty lounge at a predominantly black school and see more than 2 or at the most, 3 blacks out of 10 people. It was even rare to see a black bus driver in a predominately black community or for that matter at all.

As far as the school system ar that time, in ALL of San Diego county, there were only 2 black secondary school principals and both were assigned to schools that had student bodies of over 90% black students. I know this, because my own father was one of them.

I traveled in 1969 out of California, all of the way up to Minnesota, and none of the 9 aunts and uncles on my mothers side were being placed in jobs over white people, and remembering their sentiments, that "not much had actually changed since Jim Crow was abolished in 1965".

Nothing that I have seen nor anyone that I know has seen since the late 60's remotely supports that "hundreds of millions of white people have been victimized by Affirmative Action "favoring blacks". If anything, white females have succeeded more because of affirmative action than any other demographic.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...AhAB&usg=AOvVaw1I1xMl4pL6b-KUyPq-ata0&ampcf=1


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjAOegQICRAB&usg=AOvVaw2HT9kFPD8M5LorvcOpHb3i


Based on my own work experience, I was an SVP of marketing operations for a technology company prior to retiring. I was there for almost 35 years and 1 of 2 blacks in managenent in a division with 6000 employees which was inclusive of entry level, middle and upper management.

And even blacks at the associate and intern level were not typical.

You live in one of those enclaves that didn't see much growth. I live in what was the fastest growing couny in the United States in 1980. Whites were 83 percent of the population in the 1980 census. Today, they are 49 percent of the county's residents and we are almost 5 times more populous over that time period.

I go to a medical facility with over 250 medical personnel. I can fit all the whites into one minivan. I worked for a company that had 53 employees. Of those, only 7 were white and only two supervisors were white. The government offices here are filled with Muslims and various other sundry foreigners and, for the first time since Reagan was elected, the county will swing Democrat.

Whites and many Jews do not count Jews as white. They are actually descended from Asiatic Khazars (see the book The Thirteenth Tribe by Arthur Koestler.)

My experiences were 180 degrees opposite of what you experienced. So, maybe I should share some of our stats with you.
Just out of curiosity, what general geographic region is this in?
35 miles
You keep on confirming your idiocy. Of course, I've justified how hundreds of millions of white people have been hurt by Affirmative Action. That's how many whites have lived in America since the 60s.

ALL whites in America who have lived here since the 60s have been victimized. Either by the denial of things (jobs, promotions, college, etc), or simply the possibility of those denials. Every white person has been victimized, just by the existence of AA.

You're the only person I know of who has trouble understanding that. God, you are stupid.
You keep on confirming your idiocy. Of course, I've justified how hundreds of millions of white people have been hurt by Affirmative Action. That's how many whites have lived in America since the 60s.

ALL whites in America who have lived here since the 60s have been victimized. Either by the denial of things (jobs, promotions, college, etc), or simply the possibility of those denials. Every white person has been victimized, just by the existence of AA.

You're the only person I know of who has trouble understanding that. God, you are stupid.
Keep posting and validating your obvious ignorance with that lie.

All WHITES in America that have lived since the 60's? ROFLMAO!!

How about the fact that white males as a demographic hold the majority(over 70%) of executive positions in America IN SPITE of AA. Yet they account for 31% of the population?


They certainly are not victims.

What about your thread about the XFL? Their founder/owner is a white male billionaire.

He's no victim

How about the two presidents that signed AA into law

They were not victims.


How about the alleged billionaire that you worship who won't show his taxes and is currently in the white house?


He is no victim either, neither are his family.

I would even bet that there are some white people in this forum who would object to you referring to them as "victims". of any kind.


For you to say ALL white people who have lived since the 60's are victims of AA, verifies that you've proven nothing except that you have a very vivid imagination.....the kind that people are normally institutionalized for.

:cuckoo:
I'm curious to your source of information.

* What, exactly, constitutes an executive position?
* Are you counting Jews among "whites?"
* How many executive positions and what percentage of the overall jobs do they represent?
* How many of these executive positions are controlled by billionaires?

Exactly how do you think billionaires like Michael Bloomberg keep making obscene amounts of money?

How many of these executive positions would you estimate are owned by billionaires and millionaires from old or foreign money?

The race deal is getting boring if we don't use some qualitative and quantitative analysis.

Since the 1960s, a lot of companies have come here from foreign countries. Americans who grew up in the 1960s, forward have nothing to do with their control of money or jobs. I can tell you that I worked for 3 Japanese companies and they only network with other Japanese companies. I worked for one Japanese company that went as far as to even buy their warehouse supplies like tape and boxes from Japanese companies... and NO white ever got an executive position. Some of those companies I have experience with are Sony, Makita, Byokane, Ricoh, etc. How do Chinese and Japanese companies figure into these figures wherein whites make up 71 percent of the executive positions?

Foreign companies own 6 percent of all businesses in America outright. Many of those businesses are multi-million dollar businesses with sizable numbers of foreign executives. This would not count the ones they have a sizable investment and control in.

* African American-owned firms accounted for about 9% of the approximately 27.6 million U.S. businesses in 2012

Top U.S. African American-Owned Businesses

The 2019 figures:

" Minorities own an estimated 29 percent of classifiable businesses, which are growing at twice the rate of non-minority businesses. They employ more than 6.3 million Americans and generate over $1 trillion in revenue."

Celebrating the rise of minority-owned businesses

You see how confusing these stats are? Let's get on a level playing field here and get the facts.

So, let's ignore the number of businesses, billionaires, and high paid executive positions. What about the rank and file workers?

Most whites in the United States that have worked between the late 1960s and are now reaching retirement age have a horror story of being passed over for a promotion, not hired at all, or laid off to make room for a black. It's not racist to admit the truth. It's the way it was and probably still is. There are no government agencies or whites rights groups keeping a running tally (which is the white peoples fault.) But, you'd be hard pressed to find someone in that era, if the truth be told, that did not know of someone that applied to.





W

In a nutshell, that was a very long post. As far as what information I referenced, leaders of fortune 500 and fortune 1000 companies are what most business analysts that I've known look to as a barometer for what is happening in corporate America. Here are an couple of examples

Fortune 500: 7 in 10 Senior Executives Are White Men

As far as how many are Jewish, I would guess that the majority count themselves as white on the census or how they identify.

As far as "most whites that have worked between the late 60"s until now, having a horror story" regarding being passed over to make room for blacks", ard you referring to MOST whites that you PERSONALLY know or are you including those that you do know.

I had my first job in 1968, which was a "rank and file job" as you call it, and even growing up in a so called progressive/liberal state like Cslifornia, there was no evidence that I saw in any walk of life there where blacks were displacing whites ar anywhere near s rate that was affecting "every white person who worked"

What I saw was a predominately white workforce and it was still a rarity to walk into a bank, a doctors office, or even the faculty lounge at a predominantly black school and see more than 2 or at the most, 3 blacks out of 10 people. It was even rare to see a black bus driver in a predominately black community or for that matter at all.

As far as the school system ar that time, in ALL of San Diego county, there were only 2 black secondary school principals and both were assigned to schools that had student bodies of over 90% black students. I know this, because my own father was one of them.

I traveled in 1969 out of California, all of the way up to Minnesota, and none of the 9 aunts and uncles on my mothers side were being placed in jobs over white people, and remembering their sentiments, that "not much had actually changed since Jim Crow was abolished in 1965".

Nothing that I have seen nor anyone that I know has seen since the late 60's remotely supports that "hundreds of millions of white people have been victimized by Affirmative Action "favoring blacks". If anything, white females have succeeded more because of affirmative action than any other demographic.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...AhAB&usg=AOvVaw1I1xMl4pL6b-KUyPq-ata0&ampcf=1


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjAOegQICRAB&usg=AOvVaw2HT9kFPD8M5LorvcOpHb3i


Based on my own work experience, I was an SVP of marketing operations for a technology company prior to retiring. I was there for almost 35 years and 1 of 2 blacks in managenent in a division with 6000 employees which was inclusive of entry level, middle and upper management.

And even blacks at the associate and intern level were not typical.

You live in one of those enclaves that didn't see much growth. I live in what was the fastest growing couny in the United States in 1980. Whites were 83 percent of the population in the 1980 census. Today, they are 49 percent of the county's residents and we are almost 5 times more populous over that time period.

I go to a medical facility with over 250 medical personnel. I can fit all the whites into one minivan. I worked for a company that had 53 employees. Of those, only 7 were white and only two supervisors were white. The government offices here are filled with Muslims and various other sundry foreigners and, for the first time since Reagan was elected, the county will swing Democrat.

Whites and many Jews do not count Jews as white. They are actually descended from Asiatic Khazars (see the book The Thirteenth Tribe by Arthur Koestler.)

My experiences were 180 degrees opposite of what you experienced. So, maybe I should share some of our stats with you.
Just out of curiosity, what general geographic region is this in?

Gwinnett County, Georgia - Wikipedia

Note that in 2010 whites were just under 55 percent of the population.

https://statisticalatlas.com/county/Georgia/Gwinnett-County/Race-and-Ethnicity

Check it out. Now they are about 40 percent.

Going back to 1990 this county had 320,971 whites to 18,175 blacks. In twenty years we now have almost a million people living in this county compared to just over 340,000 only two decades ago.

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Keep posting and validating your obvious ignorance with that lie.

All WHITES in America that have lived since the 60's? ROFLMAO!!

How about the fact that white males as a demographic hold the majority(over 70%) of executive positions in America IN SPITE of AA. Yet they account for 31% of the population?


They certainly are not victims.

What about your thread about the XFL? Their founder/owner is a white male billionaire.

He's no victim

How about the two presidents that signed AA into law

They were not victims.


How about the alleged billionaire that you worship who won't show his taxes and is currently in the white house?

He is no victim either, neither are his family.

I would even bet that there are some white people in this forum who would object to you referring to them as "victims". of any kind.


For you to say ALL white people who have lived since the 60's are victims of AA, verifies that you've proven nothing except that you have a very vivid imagination.....the kind that people are normally institutionalized for.

:cuckoo:
Oh, so white males hold over 70% of executive positions in America, do they ? Hmm. Well how come these white male executives can't be found anywhere in the various workplaces that I mentioned in Post # 887 ? How come we go in there FOR YEARS, and never spot any of these white male executives, that your so-called "facts" (lol) claim to be exist ? Or ANY white males working there in ANY kind of job ?

1500 employees in just one (James A Haley VA Hospital) of these 3 workplaces I cited, and not a white male employee in sight. Ge see for yourself. G'wan.

As for who might be offended by my calling them a victim, I don't give a rat's ass what they're offended by. I said they are all victims, just by methodology, and I say it again right now. And it doesn't matter if ALL whites have been victims or just very many of them have. Either way, AA is malicious racist discrimination, that has hurt many millions of whites (and some other non-blacks), and you are a malicious, lowlife racist for supporting it.

As for the very rich white guys you spouted, I could post names of many indigent white guys, as well as some black multimillionaire and multibillionaires.

Top 10 Richest Blacks In America - RichestBlacks.com
ROFLMAO!. So now you're suddenly backpedaling from "All whites since the 1960's being victims of AA, to A LOT'?

Apparantly now you understand how mentally impaired that statement made you appear to be.

Why are you basing your entire observation of the racial makeup of the general work force on VA hospitals?

Do you live there?

The work force in America is made up of more than "VA hospitals", you imbecile.

Fortune 500 and Fortune 1000 companies average upper management teams IN AMERICA are typically 70 to 75% white males.

Look it up.

That includes directors, vice presidents, and even middle managers. In case you didn't know it, they are considered "executives"

In the 1960"s that percentage was far higher, because white females were not as common in those types of positions prior to AA.

As for the "VERY wealthy, white guys that I pointed out, and it was only just a few, my point was that they collectively represent a far higher percentage than any other demographic in America with 76% of millionaires in Anerica being white.

I doubt that any of them are "victims", nor do I think that the black 8% of Americas millionaires has had any effect on the well being of the 76%, of whites who are millionaires.

Nor has that 8% affected a nobody like you.

Breakdown of U.S. millionaires by race | Statista


And who said there aren't any indigent white guys out there?

YOU, are apparently one of them.

They exist in all races, stupid.

Next, you will likely vomit some nonsense like the wealthy blacks from your link, are wealthy because some poor schlub like you got the shaft.


SDMGDH

You are a nutcase.
"Look it up". HA HA HA.

Notice how liberals are so programmed into how they do things, they can't see outside themselves to know what robots they are.

Earth to katstupe:. I've BEEN looking it up for years and decades. I don't need MSM concocted, fake news numbers. I, and everyone else, knows what's going on with Affirmative Action, and all the sorry, lost souls like you, who without it, would be riding on the back of a garbage truck.

We know it by what we see in front of us, year in and year out, and in various cities and states across the country. We don't need brainwashed saps like you, or to be fed a continuous supply of numbers for this or that, designed to foster one agenda after another.

We have the true and substantial source of information available to us - the REAL WORLD.
I do live in the real world, you idiot. I lived in it when by default, a low achieving, mediocre bottom feeder like you would be placed over a more qualified non white person 100% of the time.....just because of an accident of birth.

So yes, ,"look it up", and instead of pulling fictitious talking points out of that empty space between your ears, and making up your own polls, and basing your stupid non arguments on what you see at the VA mental ward, and waiting for tRUMP to rescue you from your affirmative action derangement syndrome, pull your head out of your lazy shiftless ass, and look up a real fact for once.

It is obviously much easier for you to let your imagined victimhood overrule whatever logic is left in your little pea brain.
 
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I find it funny how a white man can talk about how whites nearing retirement are scared of being passed over for blacks when they are passing over blacks for promotions. Rockwell is mentally ill.
 

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I'm a poor deluded soul for not wallowing in false guilt and self hatred. How mighty left of you!
You're a white supremacist son. THE prime example of the problem. We all have a history and destiny. No one races destiny is any greater than any other race. There is no genocide being waged against white people. Stop listening to satan, boy.

Yet when he started two threads, stating and defending his primary beliefs, and threw down the gauntlet to you lefties about them,


you lefties, you included, by and large, ran and hid. Almost like you were afraid to face him.


THe few lefties that tried, made fools of themselves. They tried. He destroyed them. Then all they had left was the most pathetic stonewalling and stupid games...


well, you a lib, so you know what happens when you get suckered into actually defending your positions.


SO, make sure to make your jibs, and your gotcha zingers, then run away.

It may have been on this very thread, but it was one in which I stated my beliefs about why America was as it was - and turned out that the thread regarding our Christian founding was posted for discussion. It was ultimately derailed by one man with a fragile ego and nothing to support his name calling and false allegations.

No matter what subject the left supposedly wants to talk about, once you address it, they want to change the subject. In the instant case, the subject is supposedly a question about what white supremacy is.

With the exception of a very small number of people - and we're talking numbers so small that ALL of them combined in the United States could not fill a high school auditorium, there are no real white supremacists.

When El Chapo escaped prison, it was done via an elaborate tunnel system with a motorcycle for him to make it to a safe zone. Contrast that to Wesley Gullet, a white supremacist gang leader in a prison back last August. Gullet escapes prison, only to land up in the streets with no back up; no organization to whisk him off to safety and out of the immediate reach of LEOs.

I recently watched this documentary about some group called Atomwaffen Division with a leader named James Mason. He's some kind of guru that's been around since he was 14. He looked to be an older guy now and draws a government check, lives in government subsidized housing, and eats in soup kitchens. These people have no leaders and not enough money to sustain a single leader save of the rich boy with the last name of Spencer who is spending family money, not raising money from "white supremacy." They've been as quiet as a church mouse since Charlottesville. And, as Trump said, regarding Charlottesville, there were some good people - just fed up with the status quo, but they were not white supremacists. Nothing materialized.

Being opposed to the socialist takeover of America and watching the left try to tear down all vestiges of our culture doesn't make people white supremacists. In the view of black supremacists, if you oppose their take-over, you are a white supremacist. It's ridiculous. But we can come here and observe while the heathen rage.
You are a white supremacist, so don't try telling the lie that they don't exist.
Keep posting and validating your obvious ignorance with that lie.

All WHITES in America that have lived since the 60's? ROFLMAO!!

How about the fact that white males as a demographic hold the majority(over 70%) of executive positions in America IN SPITE of AA. Yet they account for 31% of the population?


They certainly are not victims.

What about your thread about the XFL? Their founder/owner is a white male billionaire.

He's no victim

How about the two presidents that signed AA into law

They were not victims.


How about the alleged billionaire that you worship who won't show his taxes and is currently in the white house?


He is no victim either, neither are his family.

I would even bet that there are some white people in this forum who would object to you referring to them as "victims". of any kind.


For you to say ALL white people who have lived since the 60's are victims of AA, verifies that you've proven nothing except that you have a very vivid imagination.....the kind that people are normally institutionalized for.

:cuckoo:
I'm curious to your source of information.

* What, exactly, constitutes an executive position?
* Are you counting Jews among "whites?"
* How many executive positions and what percentage of the overall jobs do they represent?
* How many of these executive positions are controlled by billionaires?

Exactly how do you think billionaires like Michael Bloomberg keep making obscene amounts of money?

How many of these executive positions would you estimate are owned by billionaires and millionaires from old or foreign money?

The race deal is getting boring if we don't use some qualitative and quantitative analysis.

Since the 1960s, a lot of companies have come here from foreign countries. Americans who grew up in the 1960s, forward have nothing to do with their control of money or jobs. I can tell you that I worked for 3 Japanese companies and they only network with other Japanese companies. I worked for one Japanese company that went as far as to even buy their warehouse supplies like tape and boxes from Japanese companies... and NO white ever got an executive position. Some of those companies I have experience with are Sony, Makita, Byokane, Ricoh, etc. How do Chinese and Japanese companies figure into these figures wherein whites make up 71 percent of the executive positions?

Foreign companies own 6 percent of all businesses in America outright. Many of those businesses are multi-million dollar businesses with sizable numbers of foreign executives. This would not count the ones they have a sizable investment and control in.

* African American-owned firms accounted for about 9% of the approximately 27.6 million U.S. businesses in 2012

Top U.S. African American-Owned Businesses

The 2019 figures:

" Minorities own an estimated 29 percent of classifiable businesses, which are growing at twice the rate of non-minority businesses. They employ more than 6.3 million Americans and generate over $1 trillion in revenue."

Celebrating the rise of minority-owned businesses

You see how confusing these stats are? Let's get on a level playing field here and get the facts.

So, let's ignore the number of businesses, billionaires, and high paid executive positions. What about the rank and file workers?

Most whites in the United States that have worked between the late 1960s and are now reaching retirement age have a horror story of being passed over for a promotion, not hired at all, or laid off to make room for a black. It's not racist to admit the truth. It's the way it was and probably still is. There are no government agencies or whites rights groups keeping a running tally (which is the white peoples fault.) But, you'd be hard pressed to find someone in that era, if the truth be told, that did not know of someone that applied to.





W

In a nutshell, that was a very long post. As far as what information I referenced, leaders of fortune 500 and fortune 1000 companies are what most business analysts that I've known look to as a barometer for what is happening in corporate America. Here are an couple of examples

Fortune 500: 7 in 10 Senior Executives Are White Men

As far as how many are Jewish, I would guess that the majority count themselves as white on the census or how they identify.

As far as "most whites that have worked between the late 60"s until now, having a horror story" regarding being passed over to make room for blacks", ard you referring to MOST whites that you PERSONALLY know or are you including those that you do know.

I had my first job in 1968, which was a "rank and file job" as you call it, and even growing up in a so called progressive/liberal state like Cslifornia, there was no evidence that I saw in any walk of life there where blacks were displacing whites ar anywhere near s rate that was affecting "every white person who worked"

What I saw was a predominately white workforce and it was still a rarity to walk into a bank, a doctors office, or even the faculty lounge at a predominantly black school and see more than 2 or at the most, 3 blacks out of 10 people. It was even rare to see a black bus driver in a predominately black community or for that matter at all.

As far as the school system ar that time, in ALL of San Diego county, there were only 2 black secondary school principals and both were assigned to schools that had student bodies of over 90% black students. I know this, because my own father was one of them.

I traveled in 1969 out of California, all of the way up to Minnesota, and none of the 9 aunts and uncles on my mothers side were being placed in jobs over white people, and remembering their sentiments, that "not much had actually changed since Jim Crow was abolished in 1965".

Nothing that I have seen nor anyone that I know has seen since the late 60's remotely supports that "hundreds of millions of white people have been victimized by Affirmative Action "favoring blacks". If anything, white females have succeeded more because of affirmative action than any other demographic.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...AhAB&usg=AOvVaw1I1xMl4pL6b-KUyPq-ata0&ampcf=1


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjAOegQICRAB&usg=AOvVaw2HT9kFPD8M5LorvcOpHb3i


Based on my own work experience, I was an SVP of marketing operations for a technology company prior to retiring. I was there for almost 35 years and 1 of 2 blacks in managenent in a division with 6000 employees which was inclusive of entry level, middle and upper management.

And even blacks at the associate and intern level were not typical.

You live in one of those enclaves that didn't see much growth. I live in what was the fastest growing couny in the United States in 1980. Whites were 83 percent of the population in the 1980 census. Today, they are 49 percent of the county's residents and we are almost 5 times more populous over that time period.

I go to a medical facility with over 250 medical personnel. I can fit all the whites into one minivan. I worked for a company that had 53 employees. Of those, only 7 were white and only two supervisors were white. The government offices here are filled with Muslims and various other sundry foreigners and, for the first time since Reagan was elected, the county will swing Democrat.

Whites and many Jews do not count Jews as white. They are actually descended from Asiatic Khazars (see the book The Thirteenth Tribe by Arthur Koestler.)

My experiences were 180 degrees opposite of what you experienced. So, maybe I should share some of our stats with you.
Just out of curiosity, what general geographic region is this in?
35 miles
Keep posting and validating your obvious ignorance with that lie.

All WHITES in America that have lived since the 60's? ROFLMAO!!

How about the fact that white males as a demographic hold the majority(over 70%) of executive positions in America IN SPITE of AA. Yet they account for 31% of the population?


They certainly are not victims.

What about your thread about the XFL? Their founder/owner is a white male billionaire.

He's no victim

How about the two presidents that signed AA into law

They were not victims.


How about the alleged billionaire that you worship who won't show his taxes and is currently in the white house?


He is no victim either, neither are his family.

I would even bet that there are some white people in this forum who would object to you referring to them as "victims". of any kind.


For you to say ALL white people who have lived since the 60's are victims of AA, verifies that you've proven nothing except that you have a very vivid imagination.....the kind that people are normally institutionalized for.

:cuckoo:
I'm curious to your source of information.

* What, exactly, constitutes an executive position?
* Are you counting Jews among "whites?"
* How many executive positions and what percentage of the overall jobs do they represent?
* How many of these executive positions are controlled by billionaires?

Exactly how do you think billionaires like Michael Bloomberg keep making obscene amounts of money?

How many of these executive positions would you estimate are owned by billionaires and millionaires from old or foreign money?

The race deal is getting boring if we don't use some qualitative and quantitative analysis.

Since the 1960s, a lot of companies have come here from foreign countries. Americans who grew up in the 1960s, forward have nothing to do with their control of money or jobs. I can tell you that I worked for 3 Japanese companies and they only network with other Japanese companies. I worked for one Japanese company that went as far as to even buy their warehouse supplies like tape and boxes from Japanese companies... and NO white ever got an executive position. Some of those companies I have experience with are Sony, Makita, Byokane, Ricoh, etc. How do Chinese and Japanese companies figure into these figures wherein whites make up 71 percent of the executive positions?

Foreign companies own 6 percent of all businesses in America outright. Many of those businesses are multi-million dollar businesses with sizable numbers of foreign executives. This would not count the ones they have a sizable investment and control in.

* African American-owned firms accounted for about 9% of the approximately 27.6 million U.S. businesses in 2012

Top U.S. African American-Owned Businesses

The 2019 figures:

" Minorities own an estimated 29 percent of classifiable businesses, which are growing at twice the rate of non-minority businesses. They employ more than 6.3 million Americans and generate over $1 trillion in revenue."

Celebrating the rise of minority-owned businesses

You see how confusing these stats are? Let's get on a level playing field here and get the facts.

So, let's ignore the number of businesses, billionaires, and high paid executive positions. What about the rank and file workers?

Most whites in the United States that have worked between the late 1960s and are now reaching retirement age have a horror story of being passed over for a promotion, not hired at all, or laid off to make room for a black. It's not racist to admit the truth. It's the way it was and probably still is. There are no government agencies or whites rights groups keeping a running tally (which is the white peoples fault.) But, you'd be hard pressed to find someone in that era, if the truth be told, that did not know of someone that applied to.





W

In a nutshell, that was a very long post. As far as what information I referenced, leaders of fortune 500 and fortune 1000 companies are what most business analysts that I've known look to as a barometer for what is happening in corporate America. Here are an couple of examples

Fortune 500: 7 in 10 Senior Executives Are White Men

As far as how many are Jewish, I would guess that the majority count themselves as white on the census or how they identify.

As far as "most whites that have worked between the late 60"s until now, having a horror story" regarding being passed over to make room for blacks", ard you referring to MOST whites that you PERSONALLY know or are you including those that you do know.

I had my first job in 1968, which was a "rank and file job" as you call it, and even growing up in a so called progressive/liberal state like Cslifornia, there was no evidence that I saw in any walk of life there where blacks were displacing whites ar anywhere near s rate that was affecting "every white person who worked"

What I saw was a predominately white workforce and it was still a rarity to walk into a bank, a doctors office, or even the faculty lounge at a predominantly black school and see more than 2 or at the most, 3 blacks out of 10 people. It was even rare to see a black bus driver in a predominately black community or for that matter at all.

As far as the school system ar that time, in ALL of San Diego county, there were only 2 black secondary school principals and both were assigned to schools that had student bodies of over 90% black students. I know this, because my own father was one of them.

I traveled in 1969 out of California, all of the way up to Minnesota, and none of the 9 aunts and uncles on my mothers side were being placed in jobs over white people, and remembering their sentiments, that "not much had actually changed since Jim Crow was abolished in 1965".

Nothing that I have seen nor anyone that I know has seen since the late 60's remotely supports that "hundreds of millions of white people have been victimized by Affirmative Action "favoring blacks". If anything, white females have succeeded more because of affirmative action than any other demographic.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...AhAB&usg=AOvVaw1I1xMl4pL6b-KUyPq-ata0&ampcf=1


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjAOegQICRAB&usg=AOvVaw2HT9kFPD8M5LorvcOpHb3i


Based on my own work experience, I was an SVP of marketing operations for a technology company prior to retiring. I was there for almost 35 years and 1 of 2 blacks in managenent in a division with 6000 employees which was inclusive of entry level, middle and upper management.

And even blacks at the associate and intern level were not typical.

You live in one of those enclaves that didn't see much growth. I live in what was the fastest growing couny in the United States in 1980. Whites were 83 percent of the population in the 1980 census. Today, they are 49 percent of the county's residents and we are almost 5 times more populous over that time period.

I go to a medical facility with over 250 medical personnel. I can fit all the whites into one minivan. I worked for a company that had 53 employees. Of those, only 7 were white and only two supervisors were white. The government offices here are filled with Muslims and various other sundry foreigners and, for the first time since Reagan was elected, the county will swing Democrat.

Whites and many Jews do not count Jews as white. They are actually descended from Asiatic Khazars (see the book The Thirteenth Tribe by Arthur Koestler.)

My experiences were 180 degrees opposite of what you experienced. So, maybe I should share some of our stats with you.
Just out of curiosity, what general geographic region is this in?

Gwinnett County, Georgia - Wikipedia

Note that in 2010 whites were just under 55 percent of the population.

https://statisticalatlas.com/county/Georgia/Gwinnett-County/Race-and-Ethnicity

Check it out. Now they are about 40 percent.

Going back to 1990 this county had 320,971 whites to 18,175 blacks. In twenty years we now have almost a million people living in this county compared to just over 340,000 only two decades ago.

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Ok. I will take the time to look into the demographic history of it. But the growth sounds comparable to what I saw in California.
 
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I find it funny how a white man can talk about how whites nearing retirement are scared of being passed over for blacks when they are passing over blacks for promotions. Rockwell is mentally ill.
Dr. Phil or IM2Shill? You are hardly in a position to judge mental fitness. My posts don't have a damn thing to do with whites nearing retirement living in fear of being passed over by blacks for promotions.

Your idiocy precedes you. I stated that anyone who grew up in the 1960s and is now close to retirement witnessed the reverse discrimination, affirmative action, etc. Those people don't need statistics. Most honest ones have a horror story to tell.

It happened to me when I was younger. That is why I picked professions wherein it would not be a factor. But, most working stiffs know full well what was going on... subtle genocide.
 

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You're a white supremacist son. THE prime example of the problem. We all have a history and destiny. No one races destiny is any greater than any other race. There is no genocide being waged against white people. Stop listening to satan, boy.

Yet when he started two threads, stating and defending his primary beliefs, and threw down the gauntlet to you lefties about them,


you lefties, you included, by and large, ran and hid. Almost like you were afraid to face him.


THe few lefties that tried, made fools of themselves. They tried. He destroyed them. Then all they had left was the most pathetic stonewalling and stupid games...


well, you a lib, so you know what happens when you get suckered into actually defending your positions.


SO, make sure to make your jibs, and your gotcha zingers, then run away.

It may have been on this very thread, but it was one in which I stated my beliefs about why America was as it was - and turned out that the thread regarding our Christian founding was posted for discussion. It was ultimately derailed by one man with a fragile ego and nothing to support his name calling and false allegations.

No matter what subject the left supposedly wants to talk about, once you address it, they want to change the subject. In the instant case, the subject is supposedly a question about what white supremacy is.

With the exception of a very small number of people - and we're talking numbers so small that ALL of them combined in the United States could not fill a high school auditorium, there are no real white supremacists.

When El Chapo escaped prison, it was done via an elaborate tunnel system with a motorcycle for him to make it to a safe zone. Contrast that to Wesley Gullet, a white supremacist gang leader in a prison back last August. Gullet escapes prison, only to land up in the streets with no back up; no organization to whisk him off to safety and out of the immediate reach of LEOs.

I recently watched this documentary about some group called Atomwaffen Division with a leader named James Mason. He's some kind of guru that's been around since he was 14. He looked to be an older guy now and draws a government check, lives in government subsidized housing, and eats in soup kitchens. These people have no leaders and not enough money to sustain a single leader save of the rich boy with the last name of Spencer who is spending family money, not raising money from "white supremacy." They've been as quiet as a church mouse since Charlottesville. And, as Trump said, regarding Charlottesville, there were some good people - just fed up with the status quo, but they were not white supremacists. Nothing materialized.

Being opposed to the socialist takeover of America and watching the left try to tear down all vestiges of our culture doesn't make people white supremacists. In the view of black supremacists, if you oppose their take-over, you are a white supremacist. It's ridiculous. But we can come here and observe while the heathen rage.
You are a white supremacist, so don't try telling the lie that they don't exist.
I'm curious to your source of information.

* What, exactly, constitutes an executive position?
* Are you counting Jews among "whites?"
* How many executive positions and what percentage of the overall jobs do they represent?
* How many of these executive positions are controlled by billionaires?

Exactly how do you think billionaires like Michael Bloomberg keep making obscene amounts of money?

How many of these executive positions would you estimate are owned by billionaires and millionaires from old or foreign money?

The race deal is getting boring if we don't use some qualitative and quantitative analysis.

Since the 1960s, a lot of companies have come here from foreign countries. Americans who grew up in the 1960s, forward have nothing to do with their control of money or jobs. I can tell you that I worked for 3 Japanese companies and they only network with other Japanese companies. I worked for one Japanese company that went as far as to even buy their warehouse supplies like tape and boxes from Japanese companies... and NO white ever got an executive position. Some of those companies I have experience with are Sony, Makita, Byokane, Ricoh, etc. How do Chinese and Japanese companies figure into these figures wherein whites make up 71 percent of the executive positions?

Foreign companies own 6 percent of all businesses in America outright. Many of those businesses are multi-million dollar businesses with sizable numbers of foreign executives. This would not count the ones they have a sizable investment and control in.

* African American-owned firms accounted for about 9% of the approximately 27.6 million U.S. businesses in 2012

Top U.S. African American-Owned Businesses

The 2019 figures:

" Minorities own an estimated 29 percent of classifiable businesses, which are growing at twice the rate of non-minority businesses. They employ more than 6.3 million Americans and generate over $1 trillion in revenue."

Celebrating the rise of minority-owned businesses

You see how confusing these stats are? Let's get on a level playing field here and get the facts.

So, let's ignore the number of businesses, billionaires, and high paid executive positions. What about the rank and file workers?

Most whites in the United States that have worked between the late 1960s and are now reaching retirement age have a horror story of being passed over for a promotion, not hired at all, or laid off to make room for a black. It's not racist to admit the truth. It's the way it was and probably still is. There are no government agencies or whites rights groups keeping a running tally (which is the white peoples fault.) But, you'd be hard pressed to find someone in that era, if the truth be told, that did not know of someone that applied to.





W

In a nutshell, that was a very long post. As far as what information I referenced, leaders of fortune 500 and fortune 1000 companies are what most business analysts that I've known look to as a barometer for what is happening in corporate America. Here are an couple of examples

Fortune 500: 7 in 10 Senior Executives Are White Men

As far as how many are Jewish, I would guess that the majority count themselves as white on the census or how they identify.

As far as "most whites that have worked between the late 60"s until now, having a horror story" regarding being passed over to make room for blacks", ard you referring to MOST whites that you PERSONALLY know or are you including those that you do know.

I had my first job in 1968, which was a "rank and file job" as you call it, and even growing up in a so called progressive/liberal state like Cslifornia, there was no evidence that I saw in any walk of life there where blacks were displacing whites ar anywhere near s rate that was affecting "every white person who worked"

What I saw was a predominately white workforce and it was still a rarity to walk into a bank, a doctors office, or even the faculty lounge at a predominantly black school and see more than 2 or at the most, 3 blacks out of 10 people. It was even rare to see a black bus driver in a predominately black community or for that matter at all.

As far as the school system ar that time, in ALL of San Diego county, there were only 2 black secondary school principals and both were assigned to schools that had student bodies of over 90% black students. I know this, because my own father was one of them.

I traveled in 1969 out of California, all of the way up to Minnesota, and none of the 9 aunts and uncles on my mothers side were being placed in jobs over white people, and remembering their sentiments, that "not much had actually changed since Jim Crow was abolished in 1965".

Nothing that I have seen nor anyone that I know has seen since the late 60's remotely supports that "hundreds of millions of white people have been victimized by Affirmative Action "favoring blacks". If anything, white females have succeeded more because of affirmative action than any other demographic.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...AhAB&usg=AOvVaw1I1xMl4pL6b-KUyPq-ata0&ampcf=1


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjAOegQICRAB&usg=AOvVaw2HT9kFPD8M5LorvcOpHb3i


Based on my own work experience, I was an SVP of marketing operations for a technology company prior to retiring. I was there for almost 35 years and 1 of 2 blacks in managenent in a division with 6000 employees which was inclusive of entry level, middle and upper management.

And even blacks at the associate and intern level were not typical.

You live in one of those enclaves that didn't see much growth. I live in what was the fastest growing couny in the United States in 1980. Whites were 83 percent of the population in the 1980 census. Today, they are 49 percent of the county's residents and we are almost 5 times more populous over that time period.

I go to a medical facility with over 250 medical personnel. I can fit all the whites into one minivan. I worked for a company that had 53 employees. Of those, only 7 were white and only two supervisors were white. The government offices here are filled with Muslims and various other sundry foreigners and, for the first time since Reagan was elected, the county will swing Democrat.

Whites and many Jews do not count Jews as white. They are actually descended from Asiatic Khazars (see the book The Thirteenth Tribe by Arthur Koestler.)

My experiences were 180 degrees opposite of what you experienced. So, maybe I should share some of our stats with you.
Just out of curiosity, what general geographic region is this in?
35 miles
I'm curious to your source of information.

* What, exactly, constitutes an executive position?
* Are you counting Jews among "whites?"
* How many executive positions and what percentage of the overall jobs do they represent?
* How many of these executive positions are controlled by billionaires?

Exactly how do you think billionaires like Michael Bloomberg keep making obscene amounts of money?

How many of these executive positions would you estimate are owned by billionaires and millionaires from old or foreign money?

The race deal is getting boring if we don't use some qualitative and quantitative analysis.

Since the 1960s, a lot of companies have come here from foreign countries. Americans who grew up in the 1960s, forward have nothing to do with their control of money or jobs. I can tell you that I worked for 3 Japanese companies and they only network with other Japanese companies. I worked for one Japanese company that went as far as to even buy their warehouse supplies like tape and boxes from Japanese companies... and NO white ever got an executive position. Some of those companies I have experience with are Sony, Makita, Byokane, Ricoh, etc. How do Chinese and Japanese companies figure into these figures wherein whites make up 71 percent of the executive positions?

Foreign companies own 6 percent of all businesses in America outright. Many of those businesses are multi-million dollar businesses with sizable numbers of foreign executives. This would not count the ones they have a sizable investment and control in.

* African American-owned firms accounted for about 9% of the approximately 27.6 million U.S. businesses in 2012

Top U.S. African American-Owned Businesses

The 2019 figures:

" Minorities own an estimated 29 percent of classifiable businesses, which are growing at twice the rate of non-minority businesses. They employ more than 6.3 million Americans and generate over $1 trillion in revenue."

Celebrating the rise of minority-owned businesses

You see how confusing these stats are? Let's get on a level playing field here and get the facts.

So, let's ignore the number of businesses, billionaires, and high paid executive positions. What about the rank and file workers?

Most whites in the United States that have worked between the late 1960s and are now reaching retirement age have a horror story of being passed over for a promotion, not hired at all, or laid off to make room for a black. It's not racist to admit the truth. It's the way it was and probably still is. There are no government agencies or whites rights groups keeping a running tally (which is the white peoples fault.) But, you'd be hard pressed to find someone in that era, if the truth be told, that did not know of someone that applied to.





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In a nutshell, that was a very long post. As far as what information I referenced, leaders of fortune 500 and fortune 1000 companies are what most business analysts that I've known look to as a barometer for what is happening in corporate America. Here are an couple of examples

Fortune 500: 7 in 10 Senior Executives Are White Men

As far as how many are Jewish, I would guess that the majority count themselves as white on the census or how they identify.

As far as "most whites that have worked between the late 60"s until now, having a horror story" regarding being passed over to make room for blacks", ard you referring to MOST whites that you PERSONALLY know or are you including those that you do know.

I had my first job in 1968, which was a "rank and file job" as you call it, and even growing up in a so called progressive/liberal state like Cslifornia, there was no evidence that I saw in any walk of life there where blacks were displacing whites ar anywhere near s rate that was affecting "every white person who worked"

What I saw was a predominately white workforce and it was still a rarity to walk into a bank, a doctors office, or even the faculty lounge at a predominantly black school and see more than 2 or at the most, 3 blacks out of 10 people. It was even rare to see a black bus driver in a predominately black community or for that matter at all.

As far as the school system ar that time, in ALL of San Diego county, there were only 2 black secondary school principals and both were assigned to schools that had student bodies of over 90% black students. I know this, because my own father was one of them.

I traveled in 1969 out of California, all of the way up to Minnesota, and none of the 9 aunts and uncles on my mothers side were being placed in jobs over white people, and remembering their sentiments, that "not much had actually changed since Jim Crow was abolished in 1965".

Nothing that I have seen nor anyone that I know has seen since the late 60's remotely supports that "hundreds of millions of white people have been victimized by Affirmative Action "favoring blacks". If anything, white females have succeeded more because of affirmative action than any other demographic.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...AhAB&usg=AOvVaw1I1xMl4pL6b-KUyPq-ata0&ampcf=1


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjAOegQICRAB&usg=AOvVaw2HT9kFPD8M5LorvcOpHb3i


Based on my own work experience, I was an SVP of marketing operations for a technology company prior to retiring. I was there for almost 35 years and 1 of 2 blacks in managenent in a division with 6000 employees which was inclusive of entry level, middle and upper management.

And even blacks at the associate and intern level were not typical.

You live in one of those enclaves that didn't see much growth. I live in what was the fastest growing couny in the United States in 1980. Whites were 83 percent of the population in the 1980 census. Today, they are 49 percent of the county's residents and we are almost 5 times more populous over that time period.

I go to a medical facility with over 250 medical personnel. I can fit all the whites into one minivan. I worked for a company that had 53 employees. Of those, only 7 were white and only two supervisors were white. The government offices here are filled with Muslims and various other sundry foreigners and, for the first time since Reagan was elected, the county will swing Democrat.

Whites and many Jews do not count Jews as white. They are actually descended from Asiatic Khazars (see the book The Thirteenth Tribe by Arthur Koestler.)

My experiences were 180 degrees opposite of what you experienced. So, maybe I should share some of our stats with you.
Just out of curiosity, what general geographic region is this in?

Gwinnett County, Georgia - Wikipedia

Note that in 2010 whites were just under 55 percent of the population.

https://statisticalatlas.com/county/Georgia/Gwinnett-County/Race-and-Ethnicity

Check it out. Now they are about 40 percent.

Going back to 1990 this county had 320,971 whites to 18,175 blacks. In twenty years we now have almost a million people living in this county compared to just over 340,000 only two decades ago.

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Ok. I will take the time to look into the demographic history of it. But the growth sounds comparable to what I saw in California.
My family left the L.A. area back in the 1960s when the riots began breaking out. I was too young to remember most of it, but they had plenty to say - as did the few who stayed. California is a blueprint for the future of America - and it's pretty damn scary if the truth be told.
 

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You poor deluded soul.
I'm a poor deluded soul for not wallowing in false guilt and self hatred. How mighty left of you!
You're a white supremacist son. THE prime example of the problem. We all have a history and destiny. No one races destiny is any greater than any other race. There is no genocide being waged against white people. Stop listening to satan, boy.

Yet when he started two threads, stating and defending his primary beliefs, and threw down the gauntlet to you lefties about them,


you lefties, you included, by and large, ran and hid. Almost like you were afraid to face him.


THe few lefties that tried, made fools of themselves. They tried. He destroyed them. Then all they had left was the most pathetic stonewalling and stupid games...


well, you a lib, so you know what happens when you get suckered into actually defending your positions.


SO, make sure to make your jibs, and your gotcha zingers, then run away.

It may have been on this very thread, but it was one in which I stated my beliefs about why America was as it was - and turned out that the thread regarding our Christian founding was posted for discussion. It was ultimately derailed by one man with a fragile ego and nothing to support his name calling and false allegations.

No matter what subject the left supposedly wants to talk about, once you address it, they want to change the subject. In the instant case, the subject is supposedly a question about what white supremacy is.

With the exception of a very small number of people - and we're talking numbers so small that ALL of them combined in the United States could not fill a high school auditorium, there are no real white supremacists.

When El Chapo escaped prison, it was done via an elaborate tunnel system with a motorcycle for him to make it to a safe zone. Contrast that to Wesley Gullet, a white supremacist gang leader in a prison back last August. Gullet escapes prison, only to land up in the streets with no back up; no organization to whisk him off to safety and out of the immediate reach of LEOs.

I recently watched this documentary about some group called Atomwaffen Division with a leader named James Mason. He's some kind of guru that's been around since he was 14. He looked to be an older guy now and draws a government check, lives in government subsidized housing, and eats in soup kitchens. These people have no leaders and not enough money to sustain a single leader save of the rich boy with the last name of Spencer who is spending family money, not raising money from "white supremacy." They've been as quiet as a church mouse since Charlottesville. And, as Trump said, regarding Charlottesville, there were some good people - just fed up with the status quo, but they were not white supremacists. Nothing materialized.

Being opposed to the socialist takeover of America and watching the left try to tear down all vestiges of our culture doesn't make people white supremacists. In the view of black supremacists, if you oppose their take-over, you are a white supremacist. It's ridiculous. But we can come here and observe while the heathen rage.
You are a white supremacist, so don't try telling the lie that they don't exist.


Kind of funny to see you talking so tough, when you ran from his two threads, like the rest of the libs did.


Almost like you are only talking shit, when you know that you won't have to back it up.
 

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You're a white supremacist son. THE prime example of the problem. We all have a history and destiny. No one races destiny is any greater than any other race. There is no genocide being waged against white people. Stop listening to satan, boy.

Yet when he started two threads, stating and defending his primary beliefs, and threw down the gauntlet to you lefties about them,


you lefties, you included, by and large, ran and hid. Almost like you were afraid to face him.


THe few lefties that tried, made fools of themselves. They tried. He destroyed them. Then all they had left was the most pathetic stonewalling and stupid games...


well, you a lib, so you know what happens when you get suckered into actually defending your positions.


SO, make sure to make your jibs, and your gotcha zingers, then run away.

It may have been on this very thread, but it was one in which I stated my beliefs about why America was as it was - and turned out that the thread regarding our Christian founding was posted for discussion. It was ultimately derailed by one man with a fragile ego and nothing to support his name calling and false allegations.

No matter what subject the left supposedly wants to talk about, once you address it, they want to change the subject. In the instant case, the subject is supposedly a question about what white supremacy is.

With the exception of a very small number of people - and we're talking numbers so small that ALL of them combined in the United States could not fill a high school auditorium, there are no real white supremacists.

When El Chapo escaped prison, it was done via an elaborate tunnel system with a motorcycle for him to make it to a safe zone. Contrast that to Wesley Gullet, a white supremacist gang leader in a prison back last August. Gullet escapes prison, only to land up in the streets with no back up; no organization to whisk him off to safety and out of the immediate reach of LEOs.

I recently watched this documentary about some group called Atomwaffen Division with a leader named James Mason. He's some kind of guru that's been around since he was 14. He looked to be an older guy now and draws a government check, lives in government subsidized housing, and eats in soup kitchens. These people have no leaders and not enough money to sustain a single leader save of the rich boy with the last name of Spencer who is spending family money, not raising money from "white supremacy." They've been as quiet as a church mouse since Charlottesville. And, as Trump said, regarding Charlottesville, there were some good people - just fed up with the status quo, but they were not white supremacists. Nothing materialized.

Being opposed to the socialist takeover of America and watching the left try to tear down all vestiges of our culture doesn't make people white supremacists. In the view of black supremacists, if you oppose their take-over, you are a white supremacist. It's ridiculous. But we can come here and observe while the heathen rage.

Spencer is spending family money? I did not know that. Even I assumed that the biggest name recognition white supremacist in the country would be able to get some money from his mailing lists.


From lib media outlets if nothing else.


Are you sure of your information on that? If so they are even more pathetic than even I realized.
He might be getting some donations from outside sources, but based on what? Does he have books, videos, a podcast, a YouTube channel or viable organization? I realize I'm not looking, but I do know in my own area that there is an active antifa group, the NAACP, black Democrats pushing their racial agenda, and we have Stacey Abrams.

WHO do these white groups have? Is there a voice, other than National Socialists, advocating a return to our foundational principles? I'm not talking about groups advocating more laws to oppose even more laws. My default is that I oppose any legislation that increases the size, power and / or scope of government. I guess I'd expect that from any "white supremacy" organization. They might be out there, but I've never met any of them - which is unusual since the head honcho of black supremacy here assures me that I'm a white supremacist.
Whites have almost every institution at every level of government. You've never met a white supremacist but you post shitloads of white supremacist ideology.



Bill CLinton was white. He had the highest level of government. Was he a white supremacist? Or are you just full of shit?
 

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