what is the lefts plan to end the war in Ukraine ?

[Mac-7]

Why? Do you claim Trump would object?

Yes

 

[AlexanderPK]

It was never a backwater issue.

Trump kissed Putin’s ass again and picked a fight with Zelinsky.

Trump never had any intention of ever keeping his word to Zelinsky or Ukraine.

Zelinsky knows that.

Trump tried to blackmail him twice, and failed both times.

Putin has no intention of honoring any agreement.

Zelinsky knows that too.

Zalupoonsky campaigned against Trump. What word did Trump have to keep?

 

[forkup]

Yes

Lol, since he's been so forceful with Russia so far right?

Last week he voted together with N-Korea against a resolution saying Russia was the aggressor.

Mac you are either stupid or dishonest. I don't think you're stupid.

 

[jackflash]

So, continue with the plan that hasn't achieved its goal for years. Isn't Ukraine running out of troops?

Create another tax???

 

[Rawley]

No you aren't trying to be a smart ass. You are trying to pose a red herring, so you can avoid addressing almost my entire post. By trying to make me focus on a technicality instead of how Ukraine understood the terms of them giving up their nukes. So address my entire post and tell me how I'm wrong please.

You're wrong. The was Clinton's deal and he never guarantied Ukraine's security. Neither did Bush, Neither did Obama. Neither did Trump, Neither did Biden.

Never happened

 

[Rawley]

Lol, since he's been so forceful with Russia so far right?

Last week he voted together with N-Korea against a resolution saying Russia was the aggressor.

Mac you are either stupid or dishonest. I don't think you're stupid.

Yes, the 72nd UN resolution saying Russia is a poopyhead. How has that worked to end the killing?

 

[Mac-7]

Lol, since he's been so forceful with Russia so far right?

Russia invaded Ukraine under Obama and Biden but not Trump

 

[DonGlock26]

Yes, hindsight being that a US president would be more aligned to a Russian dictator then to Western Democracy.

I see you aren't ever going to address anything I said besides the one thing you think you can lawyer.

Do you want US troops in Ukraine fighting the Russians because of that agreement?

 

[DonGlock26]

Second paragraph.

So, the plan that is failing now.

 

[Rawley]

It has been and still is to drive Russia from Ukrainian territory and support democracy in the country.

The maga plan is to get fucked by pootin.

Half a trillion dollars and a few hundred thousand dead. How's that working for you?

 

[DonGlock26]

Putin wants access to the Crimean Peninsula that he already stole from Ukraine. Let him have it, I say.

That's the likely outcome and what Putin wanted.

 

[forkup]

Do you want US troops in Ukraine fighting the Russians because of that agreement?

Ukraine is NOT asking for troops. They are asking for money. Something much cheaper than blood.

 

[Rawley]

Is Russia still in Afghanistan today? Or the US in Vietnam? I think not. You know why?

I'll tell you. Because keeping up their forces in the field caused internal turmoil to the point of severe civil upheaval in the US and some would argue outright collapse of the regime in the case of Russia. A Russia that was a SERIOUS superpower at the time.

Why is it that this can't happen now in your opinion?

Ousting Russia from Afghanistan cost us 9/11. Do you really want to go there?

 

[Dante]

We hear a lot of saber-rattling about Putin from the Left. The Left appears to oppose Trump's attempt to broker a peace agreement in Ukraine.
So, what's the Left's plan to defeat Putin?

The Left's plan?

Are they at some sort of negotiating table?


gawd, you people come up with the most inane scenarios.

I guess talking to yourself in your own head does that to ya

 

[forkup]

So, the plan that is failing now.

Inflation in Russia is UP WAYYYYYYYY up. Kursk is still occupied. Russia hasn't broken through. And there has already been one tank column that marched on Moscow. Attrition takes time.

As I explained. There are real, long-term consequences of giving in. History will judge harshly.

 

[forkup]

Ousting Russia from Afghanistan cost us 9/11. Do you really want to go there?

Ousting Russia from Afghanistan was a major cause of ending the cold war. How many people died in that?

 

[DonGlock26]

Inchon??

Not the best analogy.

The First Marine Division fought during much of the Korean War.

 

[Dante]

Ousting Russia from Afghanistan cost us 9/11. Do you really want to go there?

No it did not.

What did bin Laden say?

Bin Laden then called for Muslims to overthrow the Saudi government, foreshadowing several terrorist attacks in Saudi Arabia in the years to come. The continued presence of US troops after the Gulf War in Saudi Arabia was one of the stated motivations behind the September 11th attacks and the Khobar Towers bombing.

stop spinning'
and please try and keep up

 

[DonGlock26]

Is Russia still in Afghanistan today? Or the US in Vietnam? I think not. You know why?

I'll tell you. Because keeping up their forces in the field caused internal turmoil to the point of severe civil upheaval in the US and some would argue outright collapse of the regime in the case of Russia. A Russia that was a SERIOUS superpower at the time.

Why is it that this can't happen now in your opinion?

It's a hope, but I wouldn't count on it.

Ukraine is not jungle or mountainous.

 

[Dante]

The only reason the USMC exists is to be the Navy's Infantry. Hence, their name.

see how that idiot takes something and spins it to where your in the Twilight Zone with him?

It depends on the scale of the war. If the Marines land in South Korea to support the US Army as they did on Okinawa, they will need tanks.