What is Meant by "Well Regulated"?

[rightwinger]

Something in good working order.

And it's not my definition, butcher, it the definition of the founders. Now, 3, 2, 1, spin!!!!

A Militia in “Good Working Order”

A formal organization, training, a list of all members and their roles in the militia, rules and regulation

None of which apply to todays gun owners

 

[miketx]

A Militia in “Good Working Order”

A formal organization, training, a list of all members and their roles in the militia, rules and regulation

None of which apply to todays gun owners

Lie.

 

[the other mike]

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

The 2nd Amendment of the U.S. Constitution

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

constitutioncenter.org

What is your definition of a "well regulated Militia"?

It means keep your Guatemalan ass off my property.

 

[the other mike]

A Militia in “Good Working Order”

A formal organization, training, a list of all members and their roles in the militia, rules and regulation

None of which apply to todays gun owners

So the military is allowed to go collectively AWOL when the government f**** up.

 

[the other mike]

The trouble with that is the military generally follows orders. We can't count on that if enemies infiltrate our government

 

[rightwinger]

So the military is allowed to go collectively AWOL when the government f**** up.

WTF are you babbling about?

 

[Open Bolt]

A Militia in “Good Working Order”

Correct.

A formal organization, training, a list of all members and their roles in the militia, rules and regulation

Not quite. All those things might be necessary components in order for a well-regulated militia to be achieved, but they are not what the term well-regulated actually meant.

A well-regulated militia is one that is a highly effective fighting force because they have trained sufficiently enough to fight as a single coherent unit instead of fighting as a bunch of random individuals.

It is like a well-regulated watch is one that keeps accurate time because all of the gears in the watch are in perfect sync with each other.

None of which apply to todays gun owners

And rightly so.

The right to keep and bear arms is held by the people, not limited to members of an organized militia.

 

[rightwinger]

A well-regulated militia is one that is a highly effective fighting force because they have trained sufficiently enough to fight as a single coherent unit instead of fighting as a bunch of random individuals.

It is like a well-regulated watch is one that keeps accurate time because all of the gears in the watch are in perfect sync with each other.

Exactly

A Well Regulated Militia is a trained fighting force

NOT a bunch of random gun owners

 

[surada]

A Militia in “Good Working Order”

A formal organization, training, a list of all members and their roles in the militia, rules and regulation

None of which apply to todays gun owners

True. Well regulated would be well trained and disciplined.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Exactly

A Well Regulated Militia is a trained fighting force

NOT a bunch of random gun owners

Let's not forget the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

 

[Open Bolt]

Exactly
A Well Regulated Militia is a trained fighting force
NOT a bunch of random gun owners

OK so what's the problem?

Or am I wrong in believing that you are objecting to something?

 

[miketx]

Exactly

A Well Regulated Militia is a trained fighting force

NOT a bunch of random gun owners

Your Indian name: Never stops lying

 

[the other mike]

WTF are you babbling about?

It means if our government including military leaders are found to be traitors than our military enlisted will go AWOL.

That's exactly why they're coming for our guns and they don't give a s*** who dies out there in the streets.

 

[the other mike]

If they do come for the guns it will be good for my slingshot business.

 

[rightwinger]

It means if our government including military leaders are found to be traitors than our military enlisted will go AWOL.

That's exactly why they're coming for our guns and they don't give a s*** who dies out there in the streets.

Just what I thought

You are a nut job

 

[the other mike]

Just what I thought

You are a nut job

That's a compliment coming from you agent Stzrok types.

 

[westwall]

OK so what's the problem?

Or am I wrong in believing that you are objecting to something?

He objects to the private ownership of guns.

 

[2aguy]

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

The 2nd Amendment of the U.S. Constitution

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

constitutioncenter.org

What is your definition of a "well regulated Militia"?

You mean what did the Founders mean when they wrote it…

They meant that the militia had guns and a pouch full of bullets and a an appropriate ration of powder, that they can March by the numbers, form into a firing line, and know the steps to load, present and fire their weapons following orders….

 

[Frankeneinstein]

A bunch of rednecks running around with AR-15s is not well regulated

Even if that silliness were true, are you saying their 2a right can be infringed upon?

 

[Frankeneinstein]

All militias have been under government control

that's true everywhere in the world, [especially totalitarian societies]...

...but if that was the intent of the 2A there would have been no need to include it in the constitution...

...the constitutions purpose is to let us know what powers the government does not have over us [even if it were a majority opinion it does not trump the constitution, in fact its purpose is to protect minority opinion] and the second amendment is a red flag amendment designed to let us know who the wolves in sheep clothing are.