Zone1 What is a Rabbi?

[rosends]

If the question can be avoided by any number of distractions or 'what ifs', it can be answered. A culture/society built, for a specific purpose, a tradition of male rabbis. I am asking how female rabbis effects/benefits males and male rabbinical traditions.

Having female rabbis (or clergy) developed to benefit females, because it is what some females wanted, even demanded. So...how does it benefit males?

it might or might not benefit men, depending on the exact application of the term.

 

[Meriweather]

it might or might not benefit men, depending on the exact application of the term.

I asked a question, but perhaps this is the best answer you have as you are not even trying.

 

[BreezeWood]

- it might or might not benefit men

who is the original jew mother all other jews stem from as a matriarchal organization.

 

[Jroc]

Telling me what you think has no place in Judaism is silly. I clearly don't need your second hand erudition.

What I wrote wrestled with the exact question here - what do we mean by rabbi.

You're welcome, your question has been answered. I'm glad I can help you with that ...have a good day

 

[rosends]

I asked a question, but perhaps this is the best answer you have as you are not even trying.

You are asking a question which cannot be answered without clarification. Asking it in the same way, more than once, will not get a different answer.

 

[rosends]

who is the original jew mother all other jews stem from as a matriarchal organization.

No such person.

 

[Jroc]

Women can be Rabbi
I have made a thread about it.
i wonder how members will vote

Only in leftist reform type synagogues we're men and women are allowed to marry each other ..fake news

 

[Zebra]

Only in leftist reform type synagogues we're men and women are allowed to marry each other ..fake news

Or …. In all synagogues except the orthodox ones

 

[Meriweather]

You are asking a question which cannot be answered without clarification. Asking it in the same way, more than once, will not get a different answer.

It's a simple question. How does having female rabbis benefit (or be a disadvantage to) males, and the structure they built?
Since you cannot answer the question, the obvious answer is that female rabbis do not benefit males or the traditional structure men built. Further, perhaps a number of people are thinking the traditional structure needs to be torn down and something new built in its place. That leads to the questions of what is wrong with the older/traditional structure, and what is to be gained by building a newer, more modern organization?

 

[Jroc]

Or …. In all synagogues except the orthodox ones

Only leftist reform synagogues were men can marry men and women can marry women and Jews or whatever these fakes say they are ... I had a reform "Rabbi "tell me one time he's a pork eater...yeah they're real pieces of work

 

[BreezeWood]

No such person.

how is that possible for a matriarchal organization - eve then is your starting point as well the same for all humanity. what is then the beginning of your exclusive lineage as you claim.

 

[rosends]

It's a simple question. How does having female rabbis benefit (or be a disadvantage to) males, and the structure they built?
Since you cannot answer the question, the obvious answer is that female rabbis do not benefit males or the traditional structure men built. Further, perhaps a number of people are thinking the traditional structure needs to be torn down and something new built in its place. That leads to the questions of what is wrong with the older/traditional structure, and what is to be gained by building a newer, more modern organization?

you insist I cannot answer a question. I insist that the question needs refining. You keep asking the same, unclear thing. Why not try to define your words?

 

[BreezeWood]

Only leftist reform synagogues were men can marry men and women can marry women and Jews or whatever these fakes say they are ... I had a reform "Rabbi "tell me one time he's a pork eater...yeah they're real pieces of work

the reformist are the liars abraham and moses who claimed heavenly personifications for their own benefits and persuasion as false commandments, hereditary idolatry and a religion of apartheid.

 

[rosends]

how is that possible for a matriarchal organization - eve then is your starting point as well the same for all humanity. what is then the beginning of your exclusive lineage as you claim.

now you have changed the question. Judaism allows conversion IN to Judaism. As such, those who convert do not come from a specific female line.

 

[Meriweather]

I insist that the question needs refining.

Then refine it to your liking. How you do that will be the answer.

 

[rosends]

Then refine it to your liking. How you do that will be the answer.

as I wrote about, there is no single, clear definition so the definition you choose will determine the answer. As I don't have the question, I don't have to worry about coming up with an answer that will satisfy you.

 

[Meriweather]

as I wrote about, there is no single, clear definition so the definition you choose will determine the answer. As I don't have the question, I don't have to worry about coming up with an answer that will satisfy you.

You know for a fact there are any number of ways you could address my question, but you elect not to and that's fine. Remember, I read your essay. It does not address why it is necessary for females to become rabbis. What aren't males doing that make female rabbis necessary? If it is only about females wanting/choosing to take over these positions, how does that benefit males/male rabbis?

Your lack of any answer at all basically says, Women want to be rabbis, that's reason enough, so let's allow it. No reason to think beyond that it is what women want. In fact, let's not think at all.

 

[Jroc]

The easiest way to say it is a Rabbi is a teacher. the essays and stuff just cloud the issue .... Kind of like a liberalism does with moral values generally.... Women don't have the same obligations in the Torah as men do and vica versa....there's a big massive reform synagogue over here in the Detroit area and I'll bet half of those people aren't even really Jews ..you can be a Jew ...you can be a Jew all those over there can be Jews ....clown show

 

[Jroc]

as I wrote about, there is no single, clear definition so the definition you choose will determine the answer. As I don't have the question, I don't have to worry about coming up with an answer that will satisfy you.

If you don't have a clear answer then just give your own personal opinion or what's the point? .. you're a Rabbi?

 

[rosends]

You know for a fact there are any number of ways you could address my question, but you elect not to and that's fine. Remember, I read your essay. It does not address why it is necessary for females to become rabbis. What aren't males doing that make female rabbis necessary? If it is only about females wanting/choosing to take over these positions, how does that benefit males/male rabbis?

Your lack of any answer at all basically says, Women want to be rabbis, that's reason enough, so let's allow it. No reason to think beyond that it is what women want. In fact, let's not think at all.

There is no question about any thing's being necessary. The question is about what the tile means and then, whether a woman who wanted to could hold the position.

You can try to invent stuff and then tell me that that's what my responses tell you. It is better to stick with what is actually there, not what you invent, though.