What Have The Arabs Given To The World In The Last 20-30-50 Years?

[Sally]

This topic has been tossed around a bit in different threads here, so I thought I would start it's own thread. I have posted a thread or two about what the Israelis have given to the world of late, so let's see what the take is for the Arabs.

Honestly it really isn't much. And here's a video from other Arabs to back my play:



Sure there may be some strong terms there, but no one in that video denies my point.

Can you Pro-Palis do it? I (in the same way as Penelope) challenge you to discredit this factually (as she did with the 'supposed' destruction of some power plant).

This topic has been tossed around a bit in different threads here, so I thought I would start it's own thread. I have posted a thread or two about what the Israelis have given to the world of late, so let's see what the take is for the Arabs.

Honestly it really isn't much. And here's a video from other Arabs to back my play:



Sure there may be some strong terms there, but no one in that video denies my point.

Can you Pro-Palis do it? I (in the same way as Penelope) challenge you to discredit this factually (as she did with the 'supposed' destruction of some power plant).

I think this probably tells us all we need to know.

What the Arab World Produces
September 30, 2014 by Dennis Prager

What the Arab World Produces FrontPage Magazine

 

[rdean]

Fuck the Arabs. what have Republicans done for for America in the last 15 or 20 years?

Hmmm...trick question, huh? Well...they've provided 90% of the men who protect the rights of assholes like you to shoot your ignorant mouth off in forums like this one? Is that the answer? Is that it, Alex?

I'm guessing you have some statistics to back that up?

Well?

Thought so.

 

[rdean]

What Have The Arabs Given To The World In The Last 20-30-50 Years?

Arabs gave the world oil.

Republicans gave the world:
wars
death
fear
terror
debt (as in trillions)
did I say debt?

 

[teddyearp]

What Have The Arabs Given To The World In The Last 20-30-50 Years?

Arabs gave the world oil.

Republicans gave the world:
wars
death
fear
terror
debt (as in trillions)
did I say debt?

This thread is about the Middle East, not about the U.S. Please let's keep it that way.

But I will indulge once in this derailment. Please do not lay it at the feet of one or the other party here in the U.S.

IMHO, it is all their fault(s):

The 545 People Responsible For All Of U.S. Woes

 

[Yarddog]

The Arabs greatly contributed to construction/structure technique, math, poetry, and tradition in the past, but they did lost more than given instead of adopting the changing world and advance from the 7th century, the Turks are excellent 'indicator' for it. [and yes they are Arabs]

LMAO The Turks are NOT Arabs. Too funny.

They are Asians. Do you think Indonesians are also Arabs? Do you think all Muslims are Arabs? Too fucking funny.

The Turkish culture is Arabian culture like most ME Arab/Muslim states, it is easier to count the differences instead of the similarities , which is why I consider them Arabs, it is influenced by Islam that is correct, those who live on the border are mostly to be influenced by the two sides of the borders, did you see Turks eating Bak'lawa on Eid El-Fit'er with chopsticks?

Bullshit. Totally untrue. You can consider them anything you want, but they are not Arabic. All Islamic cultures are not Arabic. What an ignorant thing to think.

Are Turks "arabs" or....?
No we aren't. As you also called us, we are Turks.
Here is a brief history of Turkish people :
The first historical references to the Turks appear in Chinese records of about 2000 B.C. These records refer to tribes called the Hsiung-nu, an early form of the Western term Hun, who lived in an area bounded by the Altai Mountains, Lake Baikal, and the northern edge of the Gobi Desert and are believed to have been the ancestors of the Turks. Specific references in Chinese sources in the sixth century A.D. identify the tribal kingdom called Tu-Küe located on the Orkhon River south of Lake Baikal. The Khans (chiefs) of this tribe accepted the nominal suzerainty of the Tang dynasty. The earliest known example of writing in a Turkic language was found in that area and can be dated from about A.D. 730.
Other Turkish nomads from the Altai region founded the Göktürk Empire, a confederation of tribes under a dynasty of Khans whose influence extended during the sixth to eighth centuries from the Aral Sea to the Hindu Kush in the land bridge known as Transoxania, i.e., across the Oxus River. The Göktürks are known to have been enlisted by a Byzantine emperor in the seventh century as allies against the Sassanians. In the eighth century some Turkish tribes, among them the Oguz, moved south of the Oxus River, while others migrated west to the northern shore of the Black Sea.
Turks came into Asia Minor in 1071 AD after the victory of Malazgirt War by the Seljuks.
Although nowaday some Turks are mixed with some other ethnicities who were ruled by Ottoman Empire for hundreds of years which include, Bosnian, Circassian, Greek, Laz, Albanian, Armenian, Syrian, Kurd etc , there are a lot of pure blood ones, as well.
We don't consider Turkishness as an ethnicity matter but a national matter. Therefore, whomever considers himself/herself a Turk, then he/she is one.

Are Turks arabs or....
Bottom line: Turks are not Arabs no matter how you wish to view them.

LMAO The Turks are NOT Arabs. Too funny.

They are Asians. Do you think Indonesians are also Arabs? Do you think all Muslims are Arabs? Too fucking funny.

The Turkish culture is Arabian culture like most ME Arab/Muslim states, it is easier to count the differences instead of the similarities , which is why I consider them Arabs, it is influenced by Islam that is correct, those who live on the border are mostly to be influenced by the two sides of the borders, did you see Turks eating Bak'lawa on Eid El-Fit'er with chopsticks?

Bullshit. Totally untrue. You can consider them anything you want, but they are not Arabic. All Islamic cultures are not Arabic. What an ignorant thing to think.

Are Turks "arabs" or....?
No we aren't. As you also called us, we are Turks.
Here is a brief history of Turkish people :
The first historical references to the Turks appear in Chinese records of about 2000 B.C. These records refer to tribes called the Hsiung-nu, an early form of the Western term Hun, who lived in an area bounded by the Altai Mountains, Lake Baikal, and the northern edge of the Gobi Desert and are believed to have been the ancestors of the Turks. Specific references in Chinese sources in the sixth century A.D. identify the tribal kingdom called Tu-Küe located on the Orkhon River south of Lake Baikal. The Khans (chiefs) of this tribe accepted the nominal suzerainty of the Tang dynasty. The earliest known example of writing in a Turkic language was found in that area and can be dated from about A.D. 730.
Other Turkish nomads from the Altai region founded the Göktürk Empire, a confederation of tribes under a dynasty of Khans whose influence extended during the sixth to eighth centuries from the Aral Sea to the Hindu Kush in the land bridge known as Transoxania, i.e., across the Oxus River. The Göktürks are known to have been enlisted by a Byzantine emperor in the seventh century as allies against the Sassanians. In the eighth century some Turkish tribes, among them the Oguz, moved south of the Oxus River, while others migrated west to the northern shore of the Black Sea.
Turks came into Asia Minor in 1071 AD after the victory of Malazgirt War by the Seljuks.
Although nowaday some Turks are mixed with some other ethnicities who were ruled by Ottoman Empire for hundreds of years which include, Bosnian, Circassian, Greek, Laz, Albanian, Armenian, Syrian, Kurd etc , there are a lot of pure blood ones, as well.
We don't consider Turkishness as an ethnicity matter but a national matter. Therefore, whomever considers himself/herself a Turk, then he/she is one.

Are Turks arabs or....
Bottom line: Turks are not Arabs no matter how you wish to view them.

I Know the Turks are proud nation and they see themselves distinguished "race", which is partly true, but the Arabian influence and the Islam (Islam is the Arab main culture frame) are the major part of Turkey.
Let me ask you a question, do you consider Israel as part of Africa or Asia?

No im pretty sure the Turks are ASian. I was eating in a Turkish restaurant the other day with some friends and was very supprised to get fortune cookies at the end of the meal. Of course all our cookies had the same message inside...... ; Submit or Die'

But seriously, Theres a lot of people around over there like the Iranians who are Persian not Arab. I think though Islam in that region Just has a heavy Arab Influence , after al it was created by their culture

Of course all our cookies had the same message inside...... ; Submit or Die'

--LOL

Yeah, asian muslims are the best !

 

[Kondor3]

Turkey, eh? Hell, and for decades, I thought that gyros was a Greek invention - waddya know, ya learn sumfin' new every day.

 

[georgephillip]

This topic has been tossed around a bit in different threads here, so I thought I would start it's own thread. I have posted a thread or two about what the Israelis have given to the world of late, so let's see what the take is for the Arabs.

Honestly it really isn't much. And here's a video from other Arabs to back my play:



Sure there may be some strong terms there, but no one in that video denies my point.

Can you Pro-Palis do it? I (in the same way as Penelope) challenge you to discredit this factually (as she did with the 'supposed' destruction of some power plant).

What has the US given Arabs over the past few decades?
"The US military has been bombing one Middle Eastern or Muslim nation or
another almost continuously since 1983, including Lebanon, Libya, Syria,
Iran, the Sudan, Afghanistan, and Iraq (almost daily bombings since 1991)

"This, then, is a sampling of American foreign policies over the last 50
years. The FBI uses the following definition for Terrorism: "'The unlawful
use of force or violence committed by a group or individual, who has some
connection to a foreign power or whose activities transcend national
boundaries, against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a
government, the civilian population or any segment thereof, in furtherance
of political or social objectives.' This sounds like the terrorism we just
experienced. It also sounds a lot like the US policies and actions since
1945 that I've just described."
Don't forget to add IS to your list.
List of US War Crimes

 

[Kondor3]

This topic has been tossed around a bit in different threads here, so I thought I would start it's own thread. I have posted a thread or two about what the Israelis have given to the world of late, so let's see what the take is for the Arabs.

Honestly it really isn't much. And here's a video from other Arabs to back my play:



Sure there may be some strong terms there, but no one in that video denies my point.

Can you Pro-Palis do it? I (in the same way as Penelope) challenge you to discredit this factually (as she did with the 'supposed' destruction of some power plant).

What has the US given Arabs over the past few decades?
"The US military has been bombing one Middle Eastern or Muslim nation or
another almost continuously since 1983, including Lebanon, Libya, Syria,
Iran, the Sudan, Afghanistan, and Iraq (almost daily bombings since 1991)

"This, then, is a sampling of American foreign policies over the last 50
years. The FBI uses the following definition for Terrorism: "'The unlawful
use of force or violence committed by a group or individual, who has some
connection to a foreign power or whose activities transcend national
boundaries, against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a
government, the civilian population or any segment thereof, in furtherance
of political or social objectives.' This sounds like the terrorism we just
experienced. It also sounds a lot like the US policies and actions since
1945 that I've just described."
Don't forget to add IS to your list.
List of US War Crimes

What has any of this to do with what the Arabs have contributed to the world in recent decades?

Take your pro-Muslim / anti-American propaganda turds to some other thread more suitable for spleen-venting against your own country and countrymen.

 

[aris2chat]

US have given military aid, grants, trade, goods and services to the tune of $6 trillion+ in he last decade.

 

[irosie91]

US have given military aid, grants, trade, goods and services to the tune of $6 trillion+ in he last decade.

does not matter. the problem is the US gave something to DA JOOOOS ------try to focus

 

[Dogmaphobe]

This sounds like the terrorism we just
experienced. It also sounds a lot like the US policies and actions since
1945 that I've just described."

Actually, no it doesn't. I realize it is quite fashionable to make these sorts of claims among the illiberal, reactive element of the extremist left, but intelligent people are capable of distinguishing between war, guerilla war, and terrorism.

Simply compiling a list of all wars in which we have engaged and calling them "crimes" is incredibly childish, patently stupid and proves nothing other than the extremist agenda of whoever is indulging in this sort of shameless propaganda.

 

[irosie91]

This sounds like the terrorism we just
experienced. It also sounds a lot like the US policies and actions since
1945 that I've just described."

Actually, no it doesn't. I realize it is quite fashionable to make these sorts of claims among the illiberal, reactive element of the extremist left, but intelligent people are capable of distinguishing between war, guerilla war, and terrorism.

Simply compiling a list of all wars in which we have engaged and calling them "crimes" is incredibly childish, patently stupid and proves nothing other than the extremist agenda of whoever is indulging in this sort of shameless propaganda.

some people cannot get their heads out of
the marijuana haze of the 1960s. remember when the word "CAPITALISM"----became so
vulgar that people were reluctant to use it in
the presence of children?. It was still the "60s"---when I came to know that all the
problems of the entire world came about because of "western imperialism". I was very impressed to learn that lands once part of the
British Empire-----can never recover from the trauma of "western imperialism". Pakistan,
especially----both west and east (presently bangla desh) ----will remain impoverished forever because of the trauma of HAVING BEEN under the influence of WESTERN IMPERIALISM.-----
in fact----just about every predominantly muslim
country is hopelessly in a state of PTSD------there is but one possible cure----->>>>>>
*)))))))))***CALIPHATE***(((((((((*
<for the world>

 

[irosie91]

PS------baathism is ----arab socialist nationalism

socialist nationalism is also the agenda of
Iran------but they are not Baathist ----just
like Baathist because they are not arabs--
they are Islamic socialist nationalist.
then there are others-----mostly sunni
socialist nationalist----like some Balkan
groups and Pakistan and Afghanistan and
Indonesia and etc etc. None of this stuff
is new

 

[georgephillip]

This topic has been tossed around a bit in different threads here, so I thought I would start it's own thread. I have posted a thread or two about what the Israelis have given to the world of late, so let's see what the take is for the Arabs.

Honestly it really isn't much. And here's a video from other Arabs to back my play:



Sure there may be some strong terms there, but no one in that video denies my point.

Can you Pro-Palis do it? I (in the same way as Penelope) challenge you to discredit this factually (as she did with the 'supposed' destruction of some power plant).

What has the US given Arabs over the past few decades?
"The US military has been bombing one Middle Eastern or Muslim nation or
another almost continuously since 1983, including Lebanon, Libya, Syria,
Iran, the Sudan, Afghanistan, and Iraq (almost daily bombings since 1991)

"This, then, is a sampling of American foreign policies over the last 50
years. The FBI uses the following definition for Terrorism: "'The unlawful
use of force or violence committed by a group or individual, who has some
connection to a foreign power or whose activities transcend national
boundaries, against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a
government, the civilian population or any segment thereof, in furtherance
of political or social objectives.' This sounds like the terrorism we just
experienced. It also sounds a lot like the US policies and actions since
1945 that I've just described."
Don't forget to add IS to your list.
List of US War Crimes

What has any of this to do with what the Arabs have contributed to the world in recent decades?

Take your pro-Muslim / anti-American propaganda turds to some other thread more suitable for spleen-venting against your own country and countrymen.

"Patriotism is fundamental to liberty because pride in one’s nation-state, and a willingness to defend it if necessary, is the basis of national independence.

"Patriotism is the courage of national self-determination.

"By contrast, nationalism is patriotism transformed into a sentiment of superiority and aggression toward other countries.

"Nationalism is the poisonous idea that one’s country is superior to somebody else’s.

"Nationalism is intrinsically a cause of war and imperialism."

Nattering nabobs of nationalism, like you, are the flies feasting on shit-filled imperial wars.



Nationalism vs. patriotism - The Washington Post

 

[Dogmaphobe]

some people cannot get their heads out of
the marijuana haze of the 1960s.

and beyond that, many people are simply mirror images of that which they loathe. For every jingoist, "America, love it or leave it" type on the right, there is a reflexively anti-American "We are the source of all the world's ills" type on the left. Both are equally simply minded in that all the complexities of the world are reduced to binary.

I was in that haze, myself, in the sixties, but I still had the wherewithall to distinguish between various points of view. I saw a HUGE difference in the attitudes of those who were against the Viet Nam war, but argued strictly from the standpoint of getting our boys home, and the Jane Fondas of the world who were actually sympathetic to the Viet Kong. I saw far more of the former than I did the latter back then.

Today,l see far more of the latter type on the left than I do the former, and that is the troublesome part. There is absolutely no reason any self-respecting liberal should support anything even REMOTELY Islamist in nature, yet I have seen hundreds upon hundreds of useful idiots over the years doing just that. It's fashionable. Idiots do it simply because other idiots do it, and it is down right sickening to watch.

 

[georgephillip]

This sounds like the terrorism we just
experienced. It also sounds a lot like the US policies and actions since
1945 that I've just described."

Actually, no it doesn't. I realize it is quite fashionable to make these sorts of claims among the illiberal, reactive element of the extremist left, but intelligent people are capable of distinguishing between war, guerilla war, and terrorism.

Simply compiling a list of all wars in which we have engaged and calling them "crimes" is incredibly childish, patently stupid and proves nothing other than the extremist agenda of whoever is indulging in this sort of shameless propaganda.

What's your definition of "terrorism"?

 

[Dogmaphobe]

What's your definition of "terrorism"?

Terrorism involves the singling out of innocent civilians BECAUSE they are innocent civilians, killed quite deliberately for the purpose of instilling fear in the populace.

Only an extremely dishonest propagandists tries to claim that any civilian death during armed conflict constitutes terrorism.

 

[irosie91]

Turkey, eh? Hell, and for decades, I thought that gyros was a Greek invention - waddya know, ya learn sumfin' new every day.

coulda bin turkey-----turkey was once a sparkling
society. Constantine may have been a bastard but he came upon an ALREADY MADE cultural
center----flat bread pita type bread-----is older than the hills--------an' roasting meat direct fire----is also older than the hills. For the flat bread ya need a hot rock and for the meat and a sword to hold it and then to cut it ---and ---a fire-------gyros is just basic food of the area----as is choumous and falafel---

 

[georgephillip]

What's your definition of "terrorism"?

Terrorism involves the singling out of innocent civilians BECAUSE they are innocent civilians, killed quite deliberately for the purpose of instilling fear in the populace.

Only an extremely dishonest propagandists tries to claim that any civilian death during armed conflict constitutes terrorism.

Are you claiming the acts of war committed by the US inside Iraq over the past twenty years don't qualify as terrorism?

"ter·ror·ism
ˈterəˌrizəm/
noun

1. the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims."

Google

 

[irosie91]

they don't quality as TERRORISM------they qualify as WAR------the main issue is the INTENDED TARGET-----grabbing a child and blowing its brains out ----is terrorism----bombing a
missile launcher is not terrorism----terrorism is characterized by targeting non military targets