Zone1 What do you have to say about trinity keeping all the religions in mind?

[Cougarbear]

Satan is called Theos at 2 Cor 4:4--he is not-The God, God is called HoTheos at 2 Cor 4:4--same translating rule applies in both spots.

Who cares about Satan. Why are you so rapped up in Satan? Do JW's worship Satan?
Jesus is the Word and the Word was with the Father (God). And, the Word was also god or a member of the Godhead.

 

[kjw47]

Who cares about Satan. Why are you so rapped up in Satan? Do JW's worship Satan?
Jesus is the Word and the Word was with the Father (God). And, the Word was also god or a member of the Godhead.

There is no godhead. Its a lie created in 381 at the council of Constantinople by the religion that came out of Rome whose own translating exposes them as false religion. The Abrahamic God served by Israel up until this very day, is a single being God=YHWH(Jehovah) the Father. 2 billion being duped into not being allowed to enter Gods kingdom by breaking Gods #1 commandment daily. In fact satan beat 99% living now centuries ago.

 

[Cougarbear]

There is no godhead. Its a lie created in 381 at the council of Constantinople by the religion that came out of Rome whose own translating exposes them as false religion. The Abrahamic God served by Israel up until this very day, is a single being God=YHWH(Jehovah) the Father. 2 billion being duped into not being allowed to enter Gods kingdom by breaking Gods #1 commandment daily. In fact satan beat 99% living now centuries ago.

No one created a lie in 381. The lie is being created by JW's today, that's all. Elohim is plural. It's interesting that in Chapter 1 of Genesis, it is always stated that "God" did something. Yet, in the last versus, he he then speaking to others as he says "let us make man in our image." Obviously a plurality of personages present and part of the development of the earth. Then, in Chapter 2, something new occurs. A new personage appears, "The Lord God." It was "The Lord God" that actually formed or was the architect for the universe. So, you are wrong. There are two personages (us) and (our) at the minimum that are present as "God." God and Lord God. Two personages. By Chapter 4, it was just "Lord." In fact, the people didn't call upon the Lord until Enos was born. They called up the "name" of the Lord. So, with the word "Lord" is Lord God's name or he has another Name, Jehovah. But, what about "God?" The Most High of all God's? Not Jehovah, then. His name has been revealed to us in these the Latter days as Elohim. Your scholars who you used to call prophets are all wrong.

 

[kjw47]

No one created a lie in 381. The lie is being created by JW's today, that's all. Elohim is plural. It's interesting that in Chapter 1 of Genesis, it is always stated that "God" did something. Yet, in the last versus, he he then speaking to others as he says "let us make man in our image." Obviously a plurality of personages present and part of the development of the earth. Then, in Chapter 2, something new occurs. A new personage appears, "The Lord God." It was "The Lord God" that actually formed or was the architect for the universe. So, you are wrong. There are two personages (us) and (our) at the minimum that are present as "God." God and Lord God. Two personages. By Chapter 4, it was just "Lord." In fact, the people didn't call upon the Lord until Enos was born. They called up the "name" of the Lord. So, with the word "Lord" is Lord God's name or he has another Name, Jehovah. But, what about "God?" The Most High of all God's? Not Jehovah, then. His name has been revealed to us in these the Latter days as Elohim. Your scholars who you used to call prophets are all wrong.

Look up Hebrew-Elohim= never plural for the true living God in the Hebrew written OT. Only plural for the false trinity gods served back in those days.
Let us( YHWH(Jehovah) and his master worker( Jesus) of Prov 8.
My teachers are correct. Every Hebrew on earth will tell you, The Abrahamic God was never a trinity. Your scholars know 100% that is fact.

 

[Cougarbear]

Look up Hebrew-Elohim= never plural for the true living God in the Hebrew written OT. Only plural for the false trinity gods served back in those days.
Let us( YHWH(Jehovah) and his master worker( Jesus) of Prov 8.
My teachers are correct. Every Hebrew on earth will tell you, The Abrahamic God was never a trinity. Your scholars know 100% that is fact.

So, you think going to a Jewish Rabbi is a convincing way to prove your point? I'm a convert from Judaism and you are sadly mistaken. Their is plenty of evidence and information that throughout history, Hebrews did believe in a plurality of God as in the Trinity. God, Lord God and the Holy Spirit. That's three. Why don't today's Jews want to agree? Because they would then have to maybe give credence to Jesus Christ possibility. And, so would you. That Jesus Christ is Jehovah, Lord God, or Son of God. I've also posted to you that Elohim has and is used as plural. Stop lying.

 

[kjw47]

So, you think going to a Jewish Rabbi is a convincing way to prove your point? I'm a convert from Judaism and you are sadly mistaken. Their is plenty of evidence and information that throughout history, Hebrews did believe in a plurality of God as in the Trinity. God, Lord God and the Holy Spirit. That's three. Why don't today's Jews want to agree? Because they would then have to maybe give credence to Jesus Christ possibility. And, so would you. That Jesus Christ is Jehovah, Lord God, or Son of God. I've also posted to you that Elohim has and is used as plural. Stop lying.

Judaism never taught a trinity a single day in their existence.

 

[Cougarbear]

Judaism never taught a trinity a single day in their existence.

What is Judaism? I'll pop some popcorn while I wait for this contortionist answer...

 

[kjw47]

What is Judaism? I'll pop some popcorn while I wait for this contortionist answer...

Its the religion of Israel in the OT from Moses on up until this very day. They are no longer in good standing with God-Matt 23:38-39)

 

[Cougarbear]

Its the religion of Israel in the OT from Moses on up until this very day. They are no longer in good standing with God-Matt 23:38-39)

First of all, Judah is just one tribe of Israel. So, Moses enacted the religion of Israel. Israel means wrestling with God. Honestly, don't you know anything?

 

[MarathonMike]

Trinity? I vaguely remember something from Bible School about the Father, Son and Holy Ghost is that the Trinity? I never did get the Holy Ghost.

 

[kjw47]

First of all, Judah is just one tribe of Israel. So, Moses enacted the religion of Israel. Israel means wrestling with God. Honestly, don't you know anything?

I looked up Israel yesterday it means-Prince of EL.

 

[Cougarbear]

I looked up Israel yesterday it means-Prince of EL.

That's only one meaning. Do some more of your own research and you may learn a lot more that being brainwashed by those so-called scholars of the JW's. The ones that claimed to be prophets and then now they claim not to be. Ya, weird. Prince is a possibility as through Jacob God would establish his people. But, as you remember that Jacob wrestled with God (what he first thought was an angel). Some say it means contending with God (El). And, it was Lord God or Jehovah, (Jesus).

 

[kjw47]

That's only one meaning. Do some more of your own research and you may learn a lot more that being brainwashed by those so-called scholars of the JW's. The ones that claimed to be prophets and then now they claim not to be. Ya, weird. Prince is a possibility as through Jacob God would establish his people. But, as you remember that Jacob wrestled with God (what he first thought was an angel). Some say it means contending with God (El). And, it was Lord God or Jehovah, (Jesus).

The JW,s didnt tell me that. I looked Elohim up online and that was apart of the explanation of it.
Jesus isnt Jehovah, Only the Father is.

 

[Cougarbear]

The JW,s didnt tell me that. I looked Elohim up online and that was apart of the explanation of it.
Jesus isnt Jehovah, Only the Father is.

And, you only took the part you wanted to take. You also saw that Jacob meant wrestling with God or contending with God as well. Lord God, not God. Genesis is quite clear there are 2 God's being spoken of. God and then Lord God. Lord God is Lord of this earth, Jehovah (Jesus). God, God is the King of the Universe, Elohim. But, Israel means wrestling with God. What does this mean that he was contending or wrestling with God? He had question! He wanted to know as well the answers to these questions and others. Both God and Lord God came to him. But, it was Lord God who Jacob (Israel) wrestled with and learned and grew stronger in his testimony of God and Lord God. Jacob overcame his difficulties and gained grace in the sight of the Lord God.

 

[kjw47]

And, you only took the part you wanted to take. You also saw that Jacob meant wrestling with God or contending with God as well. Lord God, not God. Genesis is quite clear there are 2 God's being spoken of. God and then Lord God. Lord God is Lord of this earth, Jehovah (Jesus). God, God is the King of the Universe, Elohim. But, Israel means wrestling with God. What does this mean that he was contending or wrestling with God? He had question! He wanted to know as well the answers to these questions and others. Both God and Lord God came to him. But, it was Lord God who Jacob (Israel) wrestled with and learned and grew stronger in his testimony of God and Lord God. Jacob overcame his difficulties and gained grace in the sight of the Lord God.

No i didnt see that about Israel. It just said-Prince of EL.
No where in the bible does it say Lord God.

 

[Cougarbear]

No i didnt see that about Israel. It just said-Prince of EL.
No where in the bible does it say Lord God.

Genesis 3: 1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
8 And they heard the voice of the Lord God walking in the garden bin the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God amongst the trees of the garden.
9 And the Lord God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou?

Interesting that verse 1 mentions both God and Lord God when Satan spoke. Satan's beef is with Jesus (Jehovah) because of what took place in the pre-earth life in the grand council of Heaven when the Son praised the Father's plan while Satan did not. God picked Lord God to be the Savior and Satan (Lucifer) rebelled. Today, Jehovah Witnesses have taken up the fight against Jehovah (Jesus) and try to belittle Jesus Christ by denying Jesus Christ's authority as Lord God or one of the members of the Godhead.

 

[Moonglow]

People talk about trinity in almost all the religions and now even science has also proved that matter can only be dissected till the protons, neutrons and electrons. What is your opinion on this? Why everything ends up in three.

It's not monotheism.

 

[kjw47]

Genesis 3: 1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
8 And they heard the voice of the Lord God walking in the garden bin the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God amongst the trees of the garden.
9 And the Lord God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou?

Interesting that verse 1 mentions both God and Lord God when Satan spoke. Satan's beef is with Jesus (Jehovah) because of what took place in the pre-earth life in the grand council of Heaven when the Son praised the Father's plan while Satan did not. God picked Lord God to be the Savior and Satan (Lucifer) rebelled. Today, Jehovah Witnesses have taken up the fight against Jehovah (Jesus) and try to belittle Jesus Christ by denying Jesus Christ's authority as Lord God or one of the members of the Godhead.

Every spot you have LORD-YHWH(Jehovah) name belongs, not the word LORD. Only those false religions supporting satans will with the removal of Gods name in translating have LORD. Gods will his name in his written word 7000 spots because he wants it there.

 

[Cougarbear]

Every spot you have LORD-YHWH(Jehovah) name belongs, not the word LORD. Only those false religions supporting satans will with the removal of Gods name in translating have LORD. Gods will his name in his written word 7000 spots because he wants it there.

You are taking the title of Lord God from Jehovah by saying he is not the Lord God of our earth. That is Satanic. Do you know why the word Lord is used instead of Jehovah or Jesus ? Because using the name of the Lord God vainly over and over is breaking the 7th Commandment, "Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain..." Vain repetitions is breaking this commandment. And, JW's do this all the time. So, using his title "Lord" is not wrong at all. Christians know Jehovah is Jesus so using "Lord" is not in any way wrong or Satanic. It's keeping up with Exodus 20:7.

 

[kjw47]

You are taking the title of Lord God from Jehovah by saying he is not the Lord God of our earth. That is Satanic. Do you know why the word Lord is used instead of Jehovah or Jesus ? Because using the name of the Lord God vainly over and over is breaking the 7th Commandment, "Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain..." Vain repetitions is breaking this commandment. And, JW's do this all the time. So, using his title "Lord" is not wrong at all. Christians know Jehovah is Jesus so using "Lord" is not in any way wrong or Satanic. It's keeping up with Exodus 20:7.

God wants his name known and used but not in vain. Those who are his real servants dont use his name in vain. Romans 10:13-14--Gods name must be used. No Jesus is not YHWH(Jehovah) Jehovah is his God-John 20:17, Rev 3:12--Why wont you believe him--the answer is--altered versions by satans will to mislead.