What do normal people - think of Israel?

[Billo_Really]

242 tells Israel to get the **** off land that isn't their's. And that "IS" binding!

Funny, can anyone find me a word "palestinian" there? hehe

Funny, I don't see that word in my statement, either?

 

[Billo_Really]

No. You are quite WRONG!!

I'm not wrong! No where in 242 does it say Israel can stay until these mythical negotiations take place. But it does say Israel needs to leave.

I have given you a correct version by one of those who framed it.

You've given an interpretation by some paid off Israeli stooge.

That you still chant a diatribe of dung is your own affair.

You need to prove its a "diatribe of jung", before concluding it is such.

If you can't get it right then perhaps you should refrain from writing crap!!

Greg

How the **** would you know what is right? You can't even explain your position in your own words. You need someone else's comments to do it for you. I, on the otherhand, can explain my position, in my own words, in great detail. So kiss my ass!

 

[docmauser1]

242 tells Israel to get the **** off land that isn't their's. And that "IS" binding!

Funny, can anyone find me a word "palestinian" there? hehe

Funny, I don't see that word in my statement, either?

Good! Good! So, it's all jewish! J-u-d-e-a!

 

[docmauser1]

I'm not wrong! No where in 242 does it say Israel can stay until these mythical negotiations take place. But it does say Israel needs to leave.

"If the UNSC Resolution 242 (1967) for half a century ago, is all you have, you need to develop a better sense of humor."
RoccoR
Doh! Our honorable billo_really better have to, indeed.

 

[Hossfly]

The United Kingdom's "right to exist" applies so long as her neighbours accept the fact of her existance and the people express their will to that effect, as demonstrated recently in the Scottish independence.

Which neighbours?​

The United Kingdom's "right to exist" applies so long as her neighbours accept the fact of her existance and the people express their will to that effect, as demonstrated recently in the Scottish independence.

Which neighbours?​

Must be the fish in the waters around the Islands.

 

[Hossfly]

I didn't attempt to change the subject (was there one?) to Austria.

Then explain when I said -

for the world community to allow Israel to keep the land they presently occupy, would be the same as allowing Hitler to annex Poland, -​

you came back with some comment about Austria?

Reading comprehension must be painfully difficult for you, Billwy.

 

[Mindful]

The United Kingdom's "right to exist" applies so long as her neighbours accept the fact of her existance and the people express their will to that effect, as demonstrated recently in the Scottish independence.

Which neighbours?​

The United Kingdom's "right to exist" applies so long as her neighbours accept the fact of her existance and the people express their will to that effect, as demonstrated recently in the Scottish independence.

Which neighbours?​

Must be the fish in the waters around the Islands.

And there aren't many of them left.

 

[Beelzebub]

Mature nations don't blather on about "right to exist", they just do it.

Israel shows it is on the verge of not existing by insisting it has a right.
It has none. When it is gone no one, but idiots, will miss it.

 

[RoccoR]

cnm, et al,

Oh come now...

It is doubtful, given the political and uncooperative nature of the Palestinians, that any UN Coalition is going to attempt to correct the unintentional consequences that have arose since that time.

Oh, another one, normal people think Israel intentionally settles in the Occupied Territory. But that is covered by 'thieving' in the list.

Hoho, that's rather a large category.

(COMMENT)

• The status of the settlements in dispute are covered by the Oslo Accords.
• The dispute resolution methodology is covered by the Oslo Accords.

Certainly --- it is fair to say that there might be a legitimate case to be made by certain Palestinians in the matter of land and access rights, obligations, and the remedies that may be applied by courts in civil proceedings --- to provide relief for Palestinian Claimants who claim damages at the hands of the Israelis. But that is a matter of peaceful dispute resolution and not trial by terrorist, jihadist action, armed struggle or Palestinian insurgency.

It takes a keen legal mind, a fair and open process, and panel of judges that can apply it all the various facts in the matter that will lead to
the system for establishing and dispensing Justice. Currently, no such system is so maintained that the plaintiffs (Israel and the Palestinians) can have absolute confidence in the integrity and impartiality of its administration in law and justice.

As to what "normal people think Israel intentionally settles in the Occupied Territory," I'm not quite sure what that is. What is "normal people" and what do "normal people know?" This is a curious set of questions. It is a reasonable assumption that Israel, pursuant to the Oslo Accords "intentionally" established settlements. But what is the implication here. Given that the Oslo Accords define Areas "A" "B" and "C" --- and that the Oslo Accords stipulate that the "issues that will be negotiated in the permanent status negotiations: Jerusalem, settlements, specified military locations, Palestinian refugees, borders, foreign relations and Israelis." Of course there is intention. The question is, have the settlements violated any principle agreed to by "the sole legitimate representative of the Palestinian people?" If so, what?

This is the center of the argument.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Hossfly]

Mature nations don't blather on about "right to exist", they just do it.

Israel shows it is on the verge of not existing by insisting it has a right.
It has none. When it is gone no one, but idiots, will miss it.

But you'll not have anything to piss and moan about then.

 

[Beelzebub]

Mature nations don't blather on about "right to exist", they just do it.

Israel shows it is on the verge of not existing by insisting it has a right.
It has none. When it is gone no one, but idiots, will miss it.

But you'll not have anything to piss and moan about then.

No.
Well, no worries. I am sure we can live without another wannabe master race clogging up the system.

 

[cnm]

Seems news travels SLOWLY to the Shaky Isle

The Aksa Martyrs Brigades announced on Sunday that its members have succeeded in manufacturing chemical and biological weapons.

In a leaflet distributed in the Gaza Strip, the group, which belongs to Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas's Fatah Party, said the weapons were the result of a three-year effort.

Al-Aksa claims chemical capabilities - Democratic Underground

Greg

Jerusalem Post. 2006.

Scare mongering propaganda spread by useful idiots.

 

[cnm]

What mental asylum are we talking about?

It must be the one where Israel apologists insist Israel's actions should not count towards its reputation.

 

[cnm]

As to what "normal people think Israel intentionally settles in the Occupied Territory," I'm not quite sure what that is. What is "normal people" and what do "normal people know?"

'Normal people' is the majority of the world's population. I think you'll agree that by definition they must comprise the norm.

'Normal people' do not think Israel is unintentionally settling in the Occupied Territories, therefore the settlements must be intentional.

 

[Kondor3]

As to what "normal people think Israel intentionally settles in the Occupied Territory," I'm not quite sure what that is. What is "normal people" and what do "normal people know?"

'Normal people' is the majority of the world's population. I think you'll agree that by definition they must comprise the norm.

'Normal people' do not think Israel is unintentionally settling in the Occupied Territories, therefore the settlements must be intentional.

A majority of the world's population probably could not find Israel on a map.

A supermajority of the world's population could not give a rat's ass about the Palestinians, nor the Israelis.

Hell, even the Egyptians and Jordanians collaborate with the Israelis to wall-off the mad-dog Palestinians, and they're co-religionists, and closely related, give or take a few generations.

 

[toastman]

Mature nations don't blather on about "right to exist", they just do it.

Israel shows it is on the verge of not existing by insisting it has a right.
It has none. When it is gone no one, but idiots, will miss it.

If Israel doesn't have a right to exist, neither does Palestine

But I would love to know how you think Israel will cease to exist, you hateful Nazi scumbag...

 

[toastman]

Mature nations don't blather on about "right to exist", they just do it.

Israel shows it is on the verge of not existing by insisting it has a right.
It has none. When it is gone no one, but idiots, will miss it.

But you'll not have anything to piss and moan about then.

No.
Well, no worries. I am sure we can live without another wannabe master race clogging up the system.

What race are you talking about ?

 

[gtopa1]

Mature nations don't blather on about "right to exist", they just do it.

Israel shows it is on the verge of not existing by insisting it has a right.
It has none. When it is gone no one, but idiots, will miss it.

But you'll not have anything to piss and moan about then.

No.
Well, no worries. I am sure we can live without another wannabe master race clogging up the system.

yeah: Hamas really SUX!!!

Greg

 

[RoccoR]

cnm, et al,

I don't think that the interpretation of "normal people" or "the majority of the world's population" are equivalent. Bit that is just my opinion.

When speaking of "normal" relative to the implication of a "majority" --- you are speaking about a Gaussian distribution. You may have experienced this in college with the "Bell Curve" in grading. (I remember how shocked I was when I got a 90% on an exam, yet my grade was a C-. It seems the "µ" or mean was 95%. and fell on the downward slope of first standard deviation.)

As to what "normal people think Israel intentionally settles in the Occupied Territory," I'm not quite sure what that is. What is "normal people" and what do "normal people know?"

'Normal people' is the majority of the world's population. I think you'll agree that by definition they must comprise the norm.

'Normal people' do not think Israel is unintentionally settling in the Occupied Territories, therefore the settlements must be intentional.

(COMMENT)

In a deductive argument, if the premises are true, then the conclusion must be true. The conclusion that "settlements must be intentional" is probably true; but the entire thought is rendered "inconclusive;" the conclusion may be either true or false.

The issue of "intention" (intentionally or unintentionally settled territory) is of little or no consequence. It is a outcome to a sequence in events (political-military) on a timeline --- the historical reality of which cannot be changed. However the future can be altered, assuming that States shall settle their international disputes by peaceful means in such a manner that international peace and security and justice are not endangered; that would be normal. Of course the exception in the Middle East, which appears to be abnormal and assumes "there is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad."

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[MaryL]

What do "normal" people think of Arabs? Islamic 9/11 suicide cell rocket launching Anti Jewish Arabs? Not the other ones, the quiet Muslims like the the silent Germans before Hitler came to power. They all hide so well. Were are the "Normal" MUSLIMS? Good Muslims, is that a oxymoron? Time will tell.