What can republicans do for blacks?

[Correll]

This guy nails it!

Love me some ZoNation!

Just another CON$ervative telling Blacks they are too stupid to know what's good for them.
Gee, I can't imagine why that doesn't win over the Black community to the GOP!

You mean like Liberals putting policies of Affirmative Action in place telling blacks they have to get help in hiring consideration due to race because they can't do it on their own?

When Democrats pander to blacks, it's no surprise blacks vote for them. How's that black unemployment rate doing for that vote?

Affirmative Action came about because of what again? Systematic Discrimination in the workplace during the 60's and 70's.

Why is it still here should be the focus. Instead, you want to rewrite the reason.

By the way, have you compared the argument as to why Corporations want to hire Foreigners over Americans? If you study it carefully, it i the same excuse as to why Corporations did not want to hire minorities and women.

Excuse 1)Can't find one that is skilled
Excuse 2)They do not want to do the job.

American Corporations are beginning to discriminating against all Americans now, and you think Affirmative Action is just a "Race" issue. Seeing the trend, it will need to include all Americans instead.

So you do believe using race is wrong to deny but OK to use race to benefit? With AA, hiring a black now due to color of skin is nothing more than systematic racism.

AND of course, "using race to benefit" the black guy, means you are also "using race to deny" the white guy.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Ask not what Republicans can do for blacks...

... ask what blacks can do for Republicans - JFK...

... Judge Freedonius Kelly.

You don't do anything for blacks or any other group. Separating people into groups and pitting them against each other is one of the major problems in this country; mostly done by Democrat politicians.

What you do is give everybody the freedom to move about and make their own choices in life and live with those choices. Society shouldn't be liable for every mistake you or your particular group makes.

If one of your loved ones gets gunned down by a cop, he shouldn't have attacked the cop in the first place. If you come here illegally and can't find a job, you shouldn't be here in the first place. If you get busted with illegal narcotics, you go to prison like everybody else. If you get pregnant or impregnate somebody, you should be responsible for raising and supporting that child--not taxpayers.

"What you do is give everybody the freedom to move about and make their own choices in life and live with those choices. "

That is what the constitution gurantees. Are you claiming that the Republican party acts as a guard dog for the constitution?

No it does not. The Republicans can write screwy unconstitutional laws just like the Democrats. Sometimes, they come together and write unconstitutional laws in bipartisan fashion.

I guess I was wrong, you can get people to vote for you with empty rhetoric and BS!

No, you get votes by promising people things. Sometimes it's the expansion of welfare such as we've seen in the last Democrat presidential debate, and at other times it's not financial at all.

Comprehensive immigration reform. WTF is that? What's wrong with our immigration policies now? Been working fine for us the last few decades. So what does immigration reform mean? It means weakening our laws so more Hispanics can enter the country thus buying the Hispanic vote.

Police retraining. What's wrong with the way our police were trained in the past? What does police retraining mean? It means letting more black people get away with crime and not allowing officers to defend themselves unless there is absolutely no choice.

See what I mean? Giving people things.

 

[amrchaos]

This guy nails it!

Love me some ZoNation!

Just another CON$ervative telling Blacks they are too stupid to know what's good for them.
Gee, I can't imagine why that doesn't win over the Black community to the GOP!

You mean like Liberals putting policies of Affirmative Action in place telling blacks they have to get help in hiring consideration due to race because they can't do it on their own?

When Democrats pander to blacks, it's no surprise blacks vote for them. How's that black unemployment rate doing for that vote?

Affirmative Action came about because of what again? Systematic Discrimination in the workplace during the 60's and 70's.

Why is it still here should be the focus. Instead, you want to rewrite the reason.

By the way, have you compared the argument as to why Corporations want to hire Foreigners over Americans? If you study it carefully, it i the same excuse as to why Corporations did not want to hire minorities and women.

Excuse 1)Can't find one that is skilled
Excuse 2)They do not want to do the job.

American Corporations are beginning to discriminating against all Americans now, and you think Affirmative Action is just a "Race" issue. Seeing the trend, it will need to include all Americans instead.

So you do believe using race is wrong to deny but OK to use race to benefit? With AA, hiring a black now due to color of skin is nothing more than systematic racism.

Affirmative action involves more than just race--you do know that, right?

So if AA was used to hire a woman, it is racism?
How about a white man in a Wheelchair--racism?
How about a muslim--racism?

AA is used in these cases--Do you still call it racism when this occur, or do you give it a new name, like "Reverse racism"?

The problem is is that racism was so prominent at that time frame that many people did not know that employers were discriminating against other groups of people as well. You seem to fall into that category, you did not recognize the handicapped white guy who gained employment, but the black guy getting the job stuck out like a sore thumb.

Black people are easily to notice though, I have to admit that.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

This guy nails it!

Love me some ZoNation!

Just another CON$ervative telling Blacks they are too stupid to know what's good for them.
Gee, I can't imagine why that doesn't win over the Black community to the GOP!

You mean like Liberals putting policies of Affirmative Action in place telling blacks they have to get help in hiring consideration due to race because they can't do it on their own?

When Democrats pander to blacks, it's no surprise blacks vote for them. How's that black unemployment rate doing for that vote?

Affirmative Action came about because of what again? Systematic Discrimination in the workplace during the 60's and 70's.

Why is it still here should be the focus. Instead, you want to rewrite the reason.

By the way, have you compared the argument as to why Corporations want to hire Foreigners over Americans? If you study it carefully, it i the same excuse as to why Corporations did not want to hire minorities and women.

Excuse 1)Can't find one that is skilled
Excuse 2)They do not want to do the job.

American Corporations are beginning to discriminating against all Americans now, and you think Affirmative Action is just a "Race" issue. Seeing the trend, it will need to include all Americans instead.

Companies hire foreigners because they can't find Americans to do the job. Americans are sitting home with their Obama phone and SNAP's card. They want too much money to work anyhow. So hire foreigners that will work for nothing and let Americans sit home.

 

[amrchaos]

Ask not what Republicans can do for blacks...

... ask what blacks can do for Republicans - JFK...

... Judge Freedonius Kelly.

You don't do anything for blacks or any other group. Separating people into groups and pitting them against each other is one of the major problems in this country; mostly done by Democrat politicians.

What you do is give everybody the freedom to move about and make their own choices in life and live with those choices. Society shouldn't be liable for every mistake you or your particular group makes.

If one of your loved ones gets gunned down by a cop, he shouldn't have attacked the cop in the first place. If you come here illegally and can't find a job, you shouldn't be here in the first place. If you get busted with illegal narcotics, you go to prison like everybody else. If you get pregnant or impregnate somebody, you should be responsible for raising and supporting that child--not taxpayers.

"What you do is give everybody the freedom to move about and make their own choices in life and live with those choices. "

That is what the constitution gurantees. Are you claiming that the Republican party acts as a guard dog for the constitution?

No it does not. The Republicans can write screwy unconstitutional laws just like the Democrats. Sometimes, they come together and write unconstitutional laws in bipartisan fashion.

I guess I was wrong, you can get people to vote for you with empty rhetoric and BS!

No, you get votes by promising people things. Sometimes it's the expansion of welfare such as we've seen in the last Democrat presidential debate, and at other times it's not financial at all.

Comprehensive immigration reform. WTF is that? What's wrong with our immigration policies now? Been working fine for us the last few decades. So what does immigration reform mean? It means weakening our laws so more Hispanics can enter the country thus buying the Hispanic vote.

Police retraining. What's wrong with the way our police were trained in the past? What does police retraining mean? It means letting more black people get away with crime and not allowing officers to defend themselves unless there is absolutely no choice.

See what I mean? Giving people things.

I agree. You understand the basics on winning votes.

Although I disagree with what "Police retraining" entails, you do understand what I am trying to tell them.

For instance, you can't win just by telling someone on SS that Republicans are trying to destroy Social Security(even if it is a lie)--You have to add "But we will safeguard it for you and future generations!!.

The second part is how you gain the vote--a promise. The first part is called the set up. That is part of the reason Republicans are scared sh$$$less when they talk about reforming SS during the election year. They do not know how to defeat the set up.

By the way, politicians are known liars. So it is not necessary to keep the promise if you are a shrewd 2-term politician!!

 

[Correll]

This guy nails it!

Love me some ZoNation!

Just another CON$ervative telling Blacks they are too stupid to know what's good for them.
Gee, I can't imagine why that doesn't win over the Black community to the GOP!

You mean like Liberals putting policies of Affirmative Action in place telling blacks they have to get help in hiring consideration due to race because they can't do it on their own?

When Democrats pander to blacks, it's no surprise blacks vote for them. How's that black unemployment rate doing for that vote?

Affirmative Action came about because of what again? Systematic Discrimination in the workplace during the 60's and 70's.

Why is it still here should be the focus. Instead, you want to rewrite the reason.

By the way, have you compared the argument as to why Corporations want to hire Foreigners over Americans? If you study it carefully, it i the same excuse as to why Corporations did not want to hire minorities and women.

Excuse 1)Can't find one that is skilled
Excuse 2)They do not want to do the job.

American Corporations are beginning to discriminating against all Americans now, and you think Affirmative Action is just a "Race" issue. Seeing the trend, it will need to include all Americans instead.

So you do believe using race is wrong to deny but OK to use race to benefit? With AA, hiring a black now due to color of skin is nothing more than systematic racism.

Affirmative action involves more than just race--you do know that, right?

So if AA was used to hire a woman, it is racism?
How about a white man in a Wheelchair--racism?
How about a muslim--racism?

AA is used in these cases--Do you still call it racism when this occur, or do you give it a new name, like "Reverse racism"?

The problem is is that racism was so prominent at that time frame that many people did not know that employers were discriminating against other groups of people as well. You seem to fall into that category, you did not recognize the handicapped white guy who gained employment, but the black guy getting the job stuck out like a sore thumb.

Black people are easily to notice though, I have to admit that.

The 70s were a long time ago. Most of the people doing the hiring then, are probably retired if not dead by now.

Today? It's been reversed.

The white guy getting screwed today, probably wasn't even in the workforce back in the 70s, hell, he probably wasn't even alive.

 

[amrchaos]

This guy nails it!

Love me some ZoNation!

Just another CON$ervative telling Blacks they are too stupid to know what's good for them.
Gee, I can't imagine why that doesn't win over the Black community to the GOP!

You mean like Liberals putting policies of Affirmative Action in place telling blacks they have to get help in hiring consideration due to race because they can't do it on their own?

When Democrats pander to blacks, it's no surprise blacks vote for them. How's that black unemployment rate doing for that vote?

Affirmative Action came about because of what again? Systematic Discrimination in the workplace during the 60's and 70's.

Why is it still here should be the focus. Instead, you want to rewrite the reason.

By the way, have you compared the argument as to why Corporations want to hire Foreigners over Americans? If you study it carefully, it i the same excuse as to why Corporations did not want to hire minorities and women.

Excuse 1)Can't find one that is skilled
Excuse 2)They do not want to do the job.

American Corporations are beginning to discriminating against all Americans now, and you think Affirmative Action is just a "Race" issue. Seeing the trend, it will need to include all Americans instead.

Companies hire foreigners because they can't find Americans to do the job. Americans are sitting home with their Obama phone and SNAP's card. They want too much money to work anyhow. So hire foreigners that will work for nothing and let Americans sit home.

They can't find Americans with skills? Or are foreigners a cheaper source of labor? What you are saying is the second option.

Think about it, instead of drawing from a pool derived from 300 million, the corporations go to a nation of barely 10 to 15 million for cheaper labor.

But can anyone blame them if they are competing with foreign companies set up in nations with lower standards of living?

I guess it is obvious I am not for free trade, H1B(HB1?) visas and don't favor amnesty for illegals too much.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

This guy nails it!

Love me some ZoNation!

Just another CON$ervative telling Blacks they are too stupid to know what's good for them.
Gee, I can't imagine why that doesn't win over the Black community to the GOP!

You mean like Liberals putting policies of Affirmative Action in place telling blacks they have to get help in hiring consideration due to race because they can't do it on their own?

When Democrats pander to blacks, it's no surprise blacks vote for them. How's that black unemployment rate doing for that vote?

Affirmative Action came about because of what again? Systematic Discrimination in the workplace during the 60's and 70's.

Why is it still here should be the focus. Instead, you want to rewrite the reason.

By the way, have you compared the argument as to why Corporations want to hire Foreigners over Americans? If you study it carefully, it i the same excuse as to why Corporations did not want to hire minorities and women.

Excuse 1)Can't find one that is skilled
Excuse 2)They do not want to do the job.

American Corporations are beginning to discriminating against all Americans now, and you think Affirmative Action is just a "Race" issue. Seeing the trend, it will need to include all Americans instead.

So you do believe using race is wrong to deny but OK to use race to benefit? With AA, hiring a black now due to color of skin is nothing more than systematic racism.

Affirmative action involves more than just race--you do know that, right?

So if AA was used to hire a woman, it is racism?
How about a white man in a Wheelchair--racism?
How about a muslim--racism?

AA is used in these cases--Do you still call it racism when this occur, or do you give it a new name, like "Reverse racism"?

The problem is is that racism was so prominent at that time frame that many people did not know that employers were discriminating against other groups of people as well. You seem to fall into that category, you did not recognize the handicapped white guy who gained employment, but the black guy getting the job stuck out like a sore thumb.

Black people are easily to notice though, I have to admit that.

You have to remember that back in the day, "some" employers might hire white males over women and minorities. Men back then believed that a woman's place was in the home raising their children. Blacks were too lazy or uneducated to work. Because of their physical makeup, women simply can't produce what men can and that still goes on today.

The reasons for AA are way outdated. Today, the favorite color of an employer is green. His favorite employee is the one that makes him the most green.

Look, I'm a landlord, and as such, it scares the hell out of me when I have to advertise one of my apartments. That's because we do have a lot of blacks here and I can't use my own instincts to refuse an apartment to a minority. Even if I suspect they are going to be a problem, or otherwise have some evidence they will be, I have to rent them an apartment if they qualify.

Preferential treatment needs to end in this country. It's holding us back and stopping us from making reasonable choices.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

This guy nails it!

Love me some ZoNation!

Just another CON$ervative telling Blacks they are too stupid to know what's good for them.
Gee, I can't imagine why that doesn't win over the Black community to the GOP!

You mean like Liberals putting policies of Affirmative Action in place telling blacks they have to get help in hiring consideration due to race because they can't do it on their own?

When Democrats pander to blacks, it's no surprise blacks vote for them. How's that black unemployment rate doing for that vote?

Affirmative Action came about because of what again? Systematic Discrimination in the workplace during the 60's and 70's.

Why is it still here should be the focus. Instead, you want to rewrite the reason.

By the way, have you compared the argument as to why Corporations want to hire Foreigners over Americans? If you study it carefully, it i the same excuse as to why Corporations did not want to hire minorities and women.

Excuse 1)Can't find one that is skilled
Excuse 2)They do not want to do the job.

American Corporations are beginning to discriminating against all Americans now, and you think Affirmative Action is just a "Race" issue. Seeing the trend, it will need to include all Americans instead.

Companies hire foreigners because they can't find Americans to do the job. Americans are sitting home with their Obama phone and SNAP's card. They want too much money to work anyhow. So hire foreigners that will work for nothing and let Americans sit home.

They can't find Americans with skills? Or are foreigners a cheaper source of labor? What you are saying is the second option.

Think about it, instead of drawing from a pool derived from 300 million, the corporations go to a nation of barely 10 to 15 million for cheaper labor.

But can anyone blame them if they are competing with foreign companies set up in nations with lower standards of living?

I guess it is obvious I am not for free trade, H1B(HB1?) visas and don't favor amnesty for illegals too much.

Well I was speaking domestically.

Employers can't find American workers today. I see it in my field of work constantly. They have little choice but to hire foreigners.

 

[amrchaos]

Just another CON$ervative telling Blacks they are too stupid to know what's good for them.
Gee, I can't imagine why that doesn't win over the Black community to the GOP!

You mean like Liberals putting policies of Affirmative Action in place telling blacks they have to get help in hiring consideration due to race because they can't do it on their own?

When Democrats pander to blacks, it's no surprise blacks vote for them. How's that black unemployment rate doing for that vote?

Affirmative Action came about because of what again? Systematic Discrimination in the workplace during the 60's and 70's.

Why is it still here should be the focus. Instead, you want to rewrite the reason.

By the way, have you compared the argument as to why Corporations want to hire Foreigners over Americans? If you study it carefully, it i the same excuse as to why Corporations did not want to hire minorities and women.

Excuse 1)Can't find one that is skilled
Excuse 2)They do not want to do the job.

American Corporations are beginning to discriminating against all Americans now, and you think Affirmative Action is just a "Race" issue. Seeing the trend, it will need to include all Americans instead.

So you do believe using race is wrong to deny but OK to use race to benefit? With AA, hiring a black now due to color of skin is nothing more than systematic racism.

Affirmative action involves more than just race--you do know that, right?

So if AA was used to hire a woman, it is racism?
How about a white man in a Wheelchair--racism?
How about a muslim--racism?

AA is used in these cases--Do you still call it racism when this occur, or do you give it a new name, like "Reverse racism"?

The problem is is that racism was so prominent at that time frame that many people did not know that employers were discriminating against other groups of people as well. You seem to fall into that category, you did not recognize the handicapped white guy who gained employment, but the black guy getting the job stuck out like a sore thumb.

Black people are easily to notice though, I have to admit that.

The 70s were a long time ago. Most of the people doing the hiring then, are probably retired if not dead by now.

Today? It's been reversed.

The white guy getting screwed today, probably wasn't even in the workforce back in the 70s, hell, he probably wasn't even alive.

So you want a meritocracy--hire based on merit/skills only. OK, but how do you safeguard the meritocracy? Remember, we weren't practicing a meritocracy beforehand, that is how AA came about. People were ruled out based on appearence, not skill.

By the way, I am for a meritocracy except in the cases of small family businesses.

 

[Correll]

You mean like Liberals putting policies of Affirmative Action in place telling blacks they have to get help in hiring consideration due to race because they can't do it on their own?

When Democrats pander to blacks, it's no surprise blacks vote for them. How's that black unemployment rate doing for that vote?

Affirmative Action came about because of what again? Systematic Discrimination in the workplace during the 60's and 70's.

Why is it still here should be the focus. Instead, you want to rewrite the reason.

By the way, have you compared the argument as to why Corporations want to hire Foreigners over Americans? If you study it carefully, it i the same excuse as to why Corporations did not want to hire minorities and women.

Excuse 1)Can't find one that is skilled
Excuse 2)They do not want to do the job.

American Corporations are beginning to discriminating against all Americans now, and you think Affirmative Action is just a "Race" issue. Seeing the trend, it will need to include all Americans instead.

So you do believe using race is wrong to deny but OK to use race to benefit? With AA, hiring a black now due to color of skin is nothing more than systematic racism.

Affirmative action involves more than just race--you do know that, right?

So if AA was used to hire a woman, it is racism?
How about a white man in a Wheelchair--racism?
How about a muslim--racism?

AA is used in these cases--Do you still call it racism when this occur, or do you give it a new name, like "Reverse racism"?

The problem is is that racism was so prominent at that time frame that many people did not know that employers were discriminating against other groups of people as well. You seem to fall into that category, you did not recognize the handicapped white guy who gained employment, but the black guy getting the job stuck out like a sore thumb.

Black people are easily to notice though, I have to admit that.

The 70s were a long time ago. Most of the people doing the hiring then, are probably retired if not dead by now.

Today? It's been reversed.

The white guy getting screwed today, probably wasn't even in the workforce back in the 70s, hell, he probably wasn't even alive.

So you want a meritocracy--hire based on merit/skills only. OK, but how do you safeguard the meritocracy? Remember, we weren't practicing a meritocracy beforehand, that is how AA came about. People were ruled out based on appearence, not skill.

By the way, I am for a meritocracy except in the cases of small family businesses.

Interesting. YOu just put words in my mouth. Why did you do that?

I want to remove the government demands and threats that motivate anti-white discrimination today.

That's my policy. You seem to already be reaching for another government bureaucracy based on the words you put in my mouth.


We can't afford it.

 

[amrchaos]

Affirmative Action came about because of what again? Systematic Discrimination in the workplace during the 60's and 70's.

Why is it still here should be the focus. Instead, you want to rewrite the reason.

By the way, have you compared the argument as to why Corporations want to hire Foreigners over Americans? If you study it carefully, it i the same excuse as to why Corporations did not want to hire minorities and women.

Excuse 1)Can't find one that is skilled
Excuse 2)They do not want to do the job.

American Corporations are beginning to discriminating against all Americans now, and you think Affirmative Action is just a "Race" issue. Seeing the trend, it will need to include all Americans instead.

So you do believe using race is wrong to deny but OK to use race to benefit? With AA, hiring a black now due to color of skin is nothing more than systematic racism.

Affirmative action involves more than just race--you do know that, right?

So if AA was used to hire a woman, it is racism?
How about a white man in a Wheelchair--racism?
How about a muslim--racism?

AA is used in these cases--Do you still call it racism when this occur, or do you give it a new name, like "Reverse racism"?

The problem is is that racism was so prominent at that time frame that many people did not know that employers were discriminating against other groups of people as well. You seem to fall into that category, you did not recognize the handicapped white guy who gained employment, but the black guy getting the job stuck out like a sore thumb.

Black people are easily to notice though, I have to admit that.

The 70s were a long time ago. Most of the people doing the hiring then, are probably retired if not dead by now.

Today? It's been reversed.

The white guy getting screwed today, probably wasn't even in the workforce back in the 70s, hell, he probably wasn't even alive.

So you want a meritocracy--hire based on merit/skills only. OK, but how do you safeguard the meritocracy? Remember, we weren't practicing a meritocracy beforehand, that is how AA came about. People were ruled out based on appearence, not skill.

By the way, I am for a meritocracy except in the cases of small family businesses.

Interesting. YOu just put words in my mouth. Why did you do that?

I want to remove the government demands and threats that motivate anti-white discrimination today.

That's my policy. You seem to already be reaching for another government bureaucracy based on the words you put in my mouth.


We can't afford it.

Sorry, I assumed the White guy getting screwed was more skilled than the AA employee. Hence, I thought you wanted a meritocracy, so that the more skilled worker is more assured of employment than the less skilled.

If you meant something else, please tell me.

 

[rightwinger]

"Ask not what you can do for your country, but what the country can do for our wealthy"
Conservative America, 1880-2015

And yet the top 10% of the wealthy support most of the country. Imagine that.

Government can't do anything for our wealthy. They don't need government--government needs them.

Ten percent of the wealthy control 75% of the wealth

They follow the golden rule....he who has the gold, makes the rules

Why would it make a difference how much wealth they have? That doesn't mean their wealth is societies wealth.

You brought it up

Not societies wealth, but why do we continue policies that benefit only the wealthy when they obviously don't need it?

"Not benefiting" means "confiscation". Admit it.

So, if we no longer bend over backward to allow them to accumulate more wealth, we are confiscating it

Time to stop helping those who do not need it

 

[rightwinger]

All I heard is "Stop listening to the Democrats" and a strange argument as to why Republicans don't tell Blacks what they can do(Because Blacks say they can't do anything? That is called a challenge by a group, not a command!)

Well, Democrats have a funny way of telling blacks to never listen to Republicans, or that they're traitorous if they step out of line.

Yeah, you go with that.

All I heard is "Stop listening to the Democrats" and a strange argument as to why Republicans don't tell Blacks what they can do(Because Blacks say they can't do anything? That is called a challenge by a group, not a command!)

Well, Democrats have a funny way of telling blacks to never listen to Republicans, or that they're traitors if they step out of line. People like Cain, Borelli, Carson, West... just to name a few are looked down upon and chastised for not holding the liberal Democrat view of things.

Yeah, you go with that.

Like I posted earlier, Blacks rarely vote conservative.

Problem here is why most Blacks are anti-conservative in their politics. Because of Brainwashing? Because of Handouts?
Or is there something in that philosophy that goes against the collective experience of Blacks?

Naw--it can't be the last one. It has to be liberal Brainwashing.

Did you watch the Democrat presidential debate? The candidates were arguing who could expand the welfare state even more. Free goodies appeal to Democrat voters which blacks happen to be a majority of.

Helping people who need help rather than helping the wealthy who do not need it

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

All I heard is "Stop listening to the Democrats" and a strange argument as to why Republicans don't tell Blacks what they can do(Because Blacks say they can't do anything? That is called a challenge by a group, not a command!)

Well, Democrats have a funny way of telling blacks to never listen to Republicans, or that they're traitorous if they step out of line.

Yeah, you go with that.

All I heard is "Stop listening to the Democrats" and a strange argument as to why Republicans don't tell Blacks what they can do(Because Blacks say they can't do anything? That is called a challenge by a group, not a command!)

Well, Democrats have a funny way of telling blacks to never listen to Republicans, or that they're traitors if they step out of line. People like Cain, Borelli, Carson, West... just to name a few are looked down upon and chastised for not holding the liberal Democrat view of things.

Yeah, you go with that.

Like I posted earlier, Blacks rarely vote conservative.

Problem here is why most Blacks are anti-conservative in their politics. Because of Brainwashing? Because of Handouts?
Or is there something in that philosophy that goes against the collective experience of Blacks?

Naw--it can't be the last one. It has to be liberal Brainwashing.

Did you watch the Democrat presidential debate? The candidates were arguing who could expand the welfare state even more. Free goodies appeal to Democrat voters which blacks happen to be a majority of.

Helping people who need help rather than helping the wealthy who do not need it

Taking less money from people is helping them? I assume you consider all money governments first and what they allow you to keep is because of their good graces.

You don't help people by pandering to them every time they make a mistake in life. All you do is give them reason to make more mistakes. That's the reason out of wedlock births are at record highs in the black community.

 

[rightwinger]

Whatever happened to
Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country?

With the new and improved Democrats it's all gimme gimme gimme....

Why are Conservatives so naive that they turn a call to public service into a condemnation of social services?

"Ask not" was setting up the Peace Corps

 

[rightwinger]

All I heard is "Stop listening to the Democrats" and a strange argument as to why Republicans don't tell Blacks what they can do(Because Blacks say they can't do anything? That is called a challenge by a group, not a command!)

Well, Democrats have a funny way of telling blacks to never listen to Republicans, or that they're traitorous if they step out of line.

Yeah, you go with that.

All I heard is "Stop listening to the Democrats" and a strange argument as to why Republicans don't tell Blacks what they can do(Because Blacks say they can't do anything? That is called a challenge by a group, not a command!)

Well, Democrats have a funny way of telling blacks to never listen to Republicans, or that they're traitors if they step out of line. People like Cain, Borelli, Carson, West... just to name a few are looked down upon and chastised for not holding the liberal Democrat view of things.

Yeah, you go with that.

Like I posted earlier, Blacks rarely vote conservative.

Problem here is why most Blacks are anti-conservative in their politics. Because of Brainwashing? Because of Handouts?
Or is there something in that philosophy that goes against the collective experience of Blacks?

Naw--it can't be the last one. It has to be liberal Brainwashing.

Did you watch the Democrat presidential debate? The candidates were arguing who could expand the welfare state even more. Free goodies appeal to Democrat voters which blacks happen to be a majority of.

Helping people who need help rather than helping the wealthy who do not need it

Taking less money from people is helping them? I assume you consider all money governments first and what they allow you to keep is because of their good graces.

You don't help people by pandering to them every time they make a mistake in life. All you do is give them reason to make more mistakes. That's the reason out of wedlock births are at record highs in the black community.

Paying the lowest tax rates in 70 years is helping them, relaxing labor and environmental laws is helping them, protecting from foreign competition is helping them....all in the name of trickle down prosperity

 

[Redfish]

And yet the top 10% of the wealthy support most of the country. Imagine that.

Government can't do anything for our wealthy. They don't need government--government needs them.

Ten percent of the wealthy control 75% of the wealth

They follow the golden rule....he who has the gold, makes the rules

Why would it make a difference how much wealth they have? That doesn't mean their wealth is societies wealth.

You brought it up

Not societies wealth, but why do we continue policies that benefit only the wealthy when they obviously don't need it?

"Not benefiting" means "confiscation". Admit it.

So, if we no longer bend over backward to allow them to accumulate more wealth, we are confiscating it

Time to stop helping those who do not need it

who gets to decide which people "need" it and how much they "need" ? answer that and you will understand why socialism always fails.

 

[Redfish]

All I heard is "Stop listening to the Democrats" and a strange argument as to why Republicans don't tell Blacks what they can do(Because Blacks say they can't do anything? That is called a challenge by a group, not a command!)

Well, Democrats have a funny way of telling blacks to never listen to Republicans, or that they're traitorous if they step out of line.

Yeah, you go with that.

All I heard is "Stop listening to the Democrats" and a strange argument as to why Republicans don't tell Blacks what they can do(Because Blacks say they can't do anything? That is called a challenge by a group, not a command!)

Well, Democrats have a funny way of telling blacks to never listen to Republicans, or that they're traitors if they step out of line. People like Cain, Borelli, Carson, West... just to name a few are looked down upon and chastised for not holding the liberal Democrat view of things.

Yeah, you go with that.

Like I posted earlier, Blacks rarely vote conservative.

Problem here is why most Blacks are anti-conservative in their politics. Because of Brainwashing? Because of Handouts?
Or is there something in that philosophy that goes against the collective experience of Blacks?

Naw--it can't be the last one. It has to be liberal Brainwashing.

Did you watch the Democrat presidential debate? The candidates were arguing who could expand the welfare state even more. Free goodies appeal to Democrat voters which blacks happen to be a majority of.

Helping people who need help rather than helping the wealthy who do not need it

so you support mandatory government redistribution of wealth? are you a decendent of Marx?

 

[Redfish]

Well, Democrats have a funny way of telling blacks to never listen to Republicans, or that they're traitorous if they step out of line.

Yeah, you go with that.

Well, Democrats have a funny way of telling blacks to never listen to Republicans, or that they're traitors if they step out of line. People like Cain, Borelli, Carson, West... just to name a few are looked down upon and chastised for not holding the liberal Democrat view of things.

Yeah, you go with that.

Like I posted earlier, Blacks rarely vote conservative.

Problem here is why most Blacks are anti-conservative in their politics. Because of Brainwashing? Because of Handouts?
Or is there something in that philosophy that goes against the collective experience of Blacks?

Naw--it can't be the last one. It has to be liberal Brainwashing.

Did you watch the Democrat presidential debate? The candidates were arguing who could expand the welfare state even more. Free goodies appeal to Democrat voters which blacks happen to be a majority of.

Helping people who need help rather than helping the wealthy who do not need it

Taking less money from people is helping them? I assume you consider all money governments first and what they allow you to keep is because of their good graces.

You don't help people by pandering to them every time they make a mistake in life. All you do is give them reason to make more mistakes. That's the reason out of wedlock births are at record highs in the black community.

Paying the lowest tax rates in 70 years is helping them, relaxing labor and environmental laws is helping them, protecting from foreign competition is helping them....all in the name of trickle down prosperity

marxist collectivist theory.

"from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs?

sounds great, right? The problem is who decides "abilities" and "needs".