What can republicans do for blacks?

[Kondor3]

True, but the posters stance was that no families stick together because of economic times regardless of race. As if the male leaving the family will somehow release him from his parental obligations to his children. I don't buy it for a minute.

I believe responsible people are responsible until the day they die. Same holds true of irresponsible people. The problem with our politics is that we reward irresponsibility. If you reward irresponsibility, don't be too surprised when you have more irresponsible people.

So true. And so many on the left are good at convincing some people that they are victims, which makes them angry. When people feel wronged, they feel justified taking from others. No one on the left will admit that they encourage people to depend on government and do so by preaching that their rotten lives are not due to their own irresponsibility, but the fault of faceless, nameless racists who somehow are keeping them down.

Too many idiots these days have no conscience because they are so full of hate and blame everyone else for their misery.

Instead of encouraging people to reach their full potential, the left seems to prefer that people stay resentful and only trust government to go after the supposed cause of their predicaments. This is what the freebies are all about. People are convinced that the producers, especially the white ones, have a debt to settle with minorities.

Why not? It's worked for Jesse Jackson. And Al Sharpton. And Obama. And the Clintons.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

"Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country."
John F Kennedy, 1961

"Ask not what you can do for your country, but what your country can do for you."
Liberal America, 2015

"Ask not what you can do for your country, but what the country can do for our wealthy"
Conservative America, 1880-2015

And yet the top 10% of the wealthy support most of the country. Imagine that.

Government can't do anything for our wealthy. They don't need government--government needs them.

Ten percent of the wealthy control 75% of the wealth

They follow the golden rule....he who has the gold, makes the rules

Why would it make a difference how much wealth they have? That doesn't mean their wealth is societies wealth.

The idiots don't get it, its easier to go out and earn your own wealth than to sit around waiting for government to confiscate someone else's wealth and give you a few crumbs.

Liberals have this strange outlook on how our economic system works.

They see our country as encapsulated. We are in a bubble. Within this bubble, there is only so much money, therefore if one has too much, it must mean that others have too little.

That theory may be true if I approached my employer and asked for a raise, and he responded by telling me he'd love to give me one, but he doesn't have the money because the wealthy have it all.

Of course that would never happen because money is endless in this country, but liberals don't see it that way. They see it as poor people are poor because there isn't enough money to go around thanks to the rich people.

So how does one break this insane line of thinking? It's almost impossible. As far as a liberal is concerned, a poor person is not poor because of their own doing, they are poor because others are too greedy.

 

[TemplarKormac]

"Don't vote for Republicans! They're racist! You're stupid if you vote for Republicans. Only Uncle Toms and House N***ers vote for Republicans. They just want to take your free stuff away!"

I think "Republicans are racist" and "They want to cut benefits" are said. But the "Only Uncle Toms and House N**ers vote for Republicans" would brand the majority of Blacks Uncle toms and House N**ers at the local level.

But then, the local level is different than the national level.

Huh?

 

[BluesLegend]

"Ask not what you can do for your country, but what the country can do for our wealthy"
Conservative America, 1880-2015

And yet the top 10% of the wealthy support most of the country. Imagine that.

Government can't do anything for our wealthy. They don't need government--government needs them.

Ten percent of the wealthy control 75% of the wealth

They follow the golden rule....he who has the gold, makes the rules

Why would it make a difference how much wealth they have? That doesn't mean their wealth is societies wealth.

The idiots don't get it, its easier to go out and earn your own wealth than to sit around waiting for government to confiscate someone else's wealth and give you a few crumbs.

Liberals have this strange outlook on how our economic system works.

They see our country as encapsulated. We are in a bubble. Within this bubble, there is only so much money, therefore if one has too much, it must mean that others have too little.

That theory may be true if I approached my employer and asked for a raise, and he responded by telling me he'd love to give me one, but he doesn't have the money because the wealthy have it all.

Of course that would never happen because money is endless in this country, but liberals don't see it that way. They see it as poor people are poor because there isn't enough money to go around thanks to the rich people.

So how does one break this insane line of thinking? It's almost impossible. As far as a liberal is concerned, a poor person is not poor because of their own doing, they are poor because others are too greedy.

I think you nailed it. So many of the lefts stupid ass policies and regulations discourage new wealth generation, punish it in fact. You are painted as mean and greedy if you are successful and don't give the lions share of your wealth to the government. I get the feeling the left would feel better living in the old Soviet Union in poverty, so long as everyone was equally poor.

 

[Ame®icano]

No, the racism is making them believe they are inferior and can't compete without the government helping them.

 

[Ame®icano]

Did you watch the Democrat presidential debate? The candidates were arguing who could expand the welfare state even more. Free goodies appeal to Democrat voters which blacks happen to be a majority of.

"If socialists understood economics, they wouldn't be socialists."
Friedrich Von Hayek - Nobel prize for economics.

 

[amrchaos]

"Don't vote for Republicans! They're racist! You're stupid if you vote for Republicans. Only Uncle Toms and House N***ers vote for Republicans. They just want to take your free stuff away!"

I think "Republicans are racist" and "They want to cut benefits" are said. But the "Only Uncle Toms and House N**ers vote for Republicans" would brand the majority of Blacks Uncle toms and House N**ers at the local level.

But then, the local level is different than the national level.

Huh?

you can't use the argument "If you vote Republican, you are a Uncle Tom/HouseN###r" because there are times, at least at the local level, blacks will not vote for the Democrat.

There is something wrong with the person the Democrat are supporting--is that better?

Maybe I should say "the Democrats are running a known crook/nutjob/political embarrassment"?

 

[TemplarKormac]

There is something wrong with the person the Democrat are supporting--is that better?

I'm not telling anyone how to vote, or who to support. I just find it ironic that you're bashing Republicans for doing essentially the same thing as Democrats do.

 

[waltky]

Ask not what Republicans can do for blacks...

... ask what blacks can do for Republicans - JFK...

... Judge Freedonius Kelly.

 

[S.J.]

Ask not what Republicans can do for blacks...

... ask what blacks can do for Republicans - JFK...

... Judge Freedonius Kelly.

Ask not what others can do for you, ask what you can do for yourself.

 

[amrchaos]

No, the racism is making them believe they are inferior and can't compete without the government helping them.

All of them must be athletic scholarships...

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Ask not what Republicans can do for blacks...

... ask what blacks can do for Republicans - JFK...

... Judge Freedonius Kelly.

You don't do anything for blacks or any other group. Separating people into groups and pitting them against each other is one of the major problems in this country; mostly done by Democrat politicians.

What you do is give everybody the freedom to move about and make their own choices in life and live with those choices. Society shouldn't be liable for every mistake you or your particular group makes.

If one of your loved ones gets gunned down by a cop, he shouldn't have attacked the cop in the first place. If you come here illegally and can't find a job, you shouldn't be here in the first place. If you get busted with illegal narcotics, you go to prison like everybody else. If you get pregnant or impregnate somebody, you should be responsible for raising and supporting that child--not taxpayers.

 

[amrchaos]

There is something wrong with the person the Democrat are supporting--is that better?

I'm not telling anyone how to vote, or who to support. I just find it ironic that you're bashing Republicans for doing essentially the same thing as Democrats do.

I am bashing Republicans?

I ask "hat you will do in exchange fr the Black vote?" and I got as an answer:

Self help speeches(See Boss comment)

You can't win someones vote that way. You have to offer a little more--not what you think is the same.

 

[Conservative65]

This guy nails it!

Love me some ZoNation!

Just another CON$ervative telling Blacks they are too stupid to know what's good for them.
Gee, I can't imagine why that doesn't win over the Black community to the GOP!

You mean like Liberals putting policies of Affirmative Action in place telling blacks they have to get help in hiring consideration due to race because they can't do it on their own?

When Democrats pander to blacks, it's no surprise blacks vote for them. How's that black unemployment rate doing for that vote?

 

[Correll]

What can republicans do for blacks?

Free them from slavery.

except in the border states, and the 2 states in the union that still held slaves...and in new orleans (for some reason).

the "emancipation proclamation" was a fraud and didn't legally free any slaves in the south. The south was a sovereign nation and "proclamations" by foreign presidents carry no weight.

IMO, it was a diplomatic move designed to cut off any chance of European support for the South, given after a victory so as to NOT appear as a sign of weak

Free them from slavery.

That happened over 100 years ago(Thanks, by the way!!)

I am asking about present day America. You know, circa 2015.

Why does anyone have to do anything for anyone. Do for yourself. That's the only way to be truly free.

As an individual--that is okay for you to think that way. It is healthy if you are truly independent and self-sufficient.

But if represented a political party--You want my vote but you are telling me to F### Off? There is a joke here, right? I have an idea, try electing yourself!

If that's all you heard, you either weren't listening or you're cherry picking.

Like liberal programming in public schools? The voucher system to escape it? The best private schools ask for more than what is in those vouchers, also, and this is the truth, the best private schools endorse religion.

So your kids are getting programmed either way. Either they become liberal, or they become a cultist.

I prefer my kids to being programmed liberal, at least I know they have a very good chance to grow out of it!!

Giving away free education obviously destroys the market for cheaper private education.

Vouchers, if not sabotaged, should grow that market. In the short term is would put private schools in the reach of more middle class families.

The vast majority of the population identifies as Christian. THe vast majority of the market would not see that as a problem.

1) Actually it does not. If it did, you best schools would not be private(at least, before the voucher system in Florida)

2)The result in Florida was not better quality private schools, just more unregulated schools. Not one having to submit to the requirements placed on public..Yes, there are even a few "teenage-sitting" facilities that does attempt to provide any form of education.

3)I said "religious" not specifically Christian. Also, understand, not every Christian is found of Catholic teaching. Jews do not want their indoctrinated in Christianity(Christians do not want their kids indoctrinated in Judaism) Plus there is a whole plethora of other religious practice that tends to make this remark a little callous in tone.

Add in the fact that most school districts have one or two such institutions that is close enough to attend, and one can quickly see that the private choice can leads to real and permanent indoctrination. Probably in the wrongdenomination for Christians, wrong religion for non-Christians.

1. How does giving away stuff free not destroy the market for people who would want to sell that stuff?

2. Link.

3. So....

I agree about the reason for the "emancipation proclamation" as a method to discourage france or maybe england from coming to our side...Everyone knows lincoln couldn't have cared less about the negroes in the first place.He said so himself.....If the war of northern aggression was really fought to "preserve" or "end slavery", he would have "emancipated" them on the first dayt...not a couple years later when the idea came to him....

Being a politician, he cynically used the "proclamation" to weaponize negroes in the south to destabilize it...With the men away fighting the federal invaders, lincoln knew the negroes would run wild in some areas after being "freed"...and, of course, they did.

There is no contradiction between the Emancipation Proclamation being a diplomatic move and caring about the blacks.

I find his earlier strong abolitionist statements far more credible than his later denials, which, imo had the air about them of a politician lying to those he was about to rake over the coals.

 

[Conservative65]

Ask not what Republicans can do for blacks...

... ask what blacks can do for Republicans - JFK...

... Judge Freedonius Kelly.

You don't do anything for blacks or any other group. Separating people into groups and pitting them against each other is one of the major problems in this country; mostly done by Democrat politicians.

What you do is give everybody the freedom to move about and make their own choices in life and live with those choices. Society shouldn't be liable for every mistake you or your particular group makes.

If one of your loved ones gets gunned down by a cop, he shouldn't have attacked the cop in the first place. If you come here illegally and can't find a job, you shouldn't be here in the first place. If you get busted with illegal narcotics, you go to prison like everybody else. If you get pregnant or impregnate somebody, you should be responsible for raising and supporting that child--not taxpayers.

Policies like Affirmative Action do just what you say. Democrats will say using race to deny someone something (job, admission, etc.) is wrong, and I agree, yet instituting policies where using race to benefit is OK with them, and I disagree.

 

[amrchaos]

Ask not what Republicans can do for blacks...

... ask what blacks can do for Republicans - JFK...

... Judge Freedonius Kelly.

You don't do anything for blacks or any other group. Separating people into groups and pitting them against each other is one of the major problems in this country; mostly done by Democrat politicians.

What you do is give everybody the freedom to move about and make their own choices in life and live with those choices. Society shouldn't be liable for every mistake you or your particular group makes.

If one of your loved ones gets gunned down by a cop, he shouldn't have attacked the cop in the first place. If you come here illegally and can't find a job, you shouldn't be here in the first place. If you get busted with illegal narcotics, you go to prison like everybody else. If you get pregnant or impregnate somebody, you should be responsible for raising and supporting that child--not taxpayers.

"What you do is give everybody the freedom to move about and make their own choices in life and live with those choices. "

That is what the constitution gurantees. Are you claiming that the Republican party acts as a guard dog for the constitution?

No it does not. The Republicans can write screwy unconstitutional laws just like the Democrats. Sometimes, they come together and write unconstitutional laws in bipartisan fashion.

I guess I was wrong, you can get people to vote for you with empty rhetoric and BS!

 

[Conservative65]

What can republicans do for blacks?

Free them from slavery.

The difference between slavery 150 years ago and the slavery today is that blacks then weren't allowed to leave that plantation and blacks today keep themselves on it despite having the ability to leave.

 

[amrchaos]

This guy nails it!

Love me some ZoNation!

Just another CON$ervative telling Blacks they are too stupid to know what's good for them.
Gee, I can't imagine why that doesn't win over the Black community to the GOP!

You mean like Liberals putting policies of Affirmative Action in place telling blacks they have to get help in hiring consideration due to race because they can't do it on their own?

When Democrats pander to blacks, it's no surprise blacks vote for them. How's that black unemployment rate doing for that vote?

Affirmative Action came about because of what again? Systematic Discrimination in the workplace during the 60's and 70's.

Why is it still here should be the focus. Instead, you want to rewrite the reason.

By the way, have you compared the argument as to why Corporations want to hire Foreigners over Americans? If you study it carefully, it i the same excuse as to why Corporations did not want to hire minorities and women.

Excuse 1)Can't find one that is skilled
Excuse 2)They do not want to do the job.

American Corporations are beginning to discriminating against all Americans now, and you think Affirmative Action is just a "Race" issue. Seeing the trend, it will need to include all Americans instead.

 

[Conservative65]

This guy nails it!

Love me some ZoNation!

Just another CON$ervative telling Blacks they are too stupid to know what's good for them.
Gee, I can't imagine why that doesn't win over the Black community to the GOP!

You mean like Liberals putting policies of Affirmative Action in place telling blacks they have to get help in hiring consideration due to race because they can't do it on their own?

When Democrats pander to blacks, it's no surprise blacks vote for them. How's that black unemployment rate doing for that vote?

Affirmative Action came about because of what again? Systematic Discrimination in the workplace during the 60's and 70's.

Why is it still here should be the focus. Instead, you want to rewrite the reason.

By the way, have you compared the argument as to why Corporations want to hire Foreigners over Americans? If you study it carefully, it i the same excuse as to why Corporations did not want to hire minorities and women.

Excuse 1)Can't find one that is skilled
Excuse 2)They do not want to do the job.

American Corporations are beginning to discriminating against all Americans now, and you think Affirmative Action is just a "Race" issue. Seeing the trend, it will need to include all Americans instead.

So you do believe using race is wrong to deny but OK to use race to benefit? With AA, hiring a black now due to color of skin is nothing more than systematic racism.