Were the Confederates traitors

Were the Confederates traitors?

  • yes

    Votes: 12 28.6%
  • no

    Votes: 24 57.1%
  • other

    Votes: 6 14.3%

  • Total voters
    42
Brown, like those who attempted secession, acted violently and illegally.

That is a lie. Brown was found guilty of treason and hung.

The South seceded peacefully. Legally.

Jefferson Davis was set free because they could not make the charge of treason stick.

Just like Brown, the North were the traitors and should have been hung. Not the South.

And what happened to all those co-conspirators with John Brown. Where did their hangings take place?

Quantrill
 
I want you to say it. I'm not asking you to lie. I'm asking you to tell the truth. And you choke on it.

Oh yes you care, which is why you crawfish.

Quantirll
Sorry Skippy

But I don’t accept homework assignments from Confederate Propagandists

Do your own work
 
Don’t give a shit
He was going to be hung anyway

Like Nathan Hale, he was hung for doing what was right
Our nations slave policies were not right

John Brown was a Patriot fighting for Liberty
Freeing slave was more about Liberty than what our Founding Fathers fought for
John Brown was a fanatic who believed he was directed by God to punish sinners. During his raids, he killed anyone he could and hanged those he captured, believing it had the blessing of God. Ironically, the same people who admire John Brown often despised Barry Goldwater when he said, “Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. And moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.”

And during the Cold War, many of the same people who favored abolishing slavery were also among those who praised communism—even though it was just another form of slavery. That doesn't speak very well for the left, either hypocrites who have no problem with slavery when they expect to be the masters, or who lack the intellectual ability to recognize slavery when it stares them in the face.
 
Sorry Skippy

But I don’t accept homework assignments from Confederate Propagandists

Do your own work

You just can't tell the truth. You are a perfect example of America's willingness to believe and propagate the lie.

Quantrill
 
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What a load of horse shit!

You think so?

From: (The Annals Of America, Vol, 4, Encyclopaedia Britannica, Inc., 2003, p. (175)

"The Federalists, who had traditionally favored a measured expansionism, now opposed the acquisition of Louisiana partly because it was a Jefferson coup but mainly because they feared that the westward movement of settlers would continually shift the balance of power away from the East where they were strong."

From (Annals of America, Vol 4, p. 176)

Senator Samuel White of Delaware said: "Louisiana must and will become settled if we hold it, and with the very population that would otherwise occupy part of our present territory. Thus our citizens will be removed to the immense distance of 2,000 or 3,000 miles from the capital of the Union, where they will scarcely ever feel the rays of the general government; their affections will become alienated, they will gradually begin to view us as strangers; they will form other commercial connections, and our interests will become distinct.

"These, with other causes that human wisdom may not now forsee, will in time effect a separation, and I fear our bounds will be fixed nearer to our houses than the waters of the Mississippi."

It's called history, not horseshit. The North's fear of westward expansion lay in their fear of losing control over the Union. Fear of their interests not being first and foremost the purpose of the Union. Power, money, control. And they were willing eventually to go to war to protect that control.

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It's called history, not horseshit. The North's fear of westward expansion lay in their fear of losing control over the Union. Fear of their interests not being first and foremost the purpose of the Union. Power, money, control. And they were willing eventually to go to war to protect that control.
Horseshit

The South realized that continued western expansion of non slave states would water down their influence in Congress and lead to an eventual abolition of slavery.
Instead their war ended slavery in four years
 
Horseshit

The South realized that continued western expansion of non slave states would water down their influence in Congress and lead to an eventual abolition of slavery.
Instead their war ended slavery in four years

I just showed you what a yankee senator back then said. All you give is your meaningless opinion.

Why should the South fear that, when slavery was protected by the Constitution?

Oh, now I remember, you and others don't give a shit about breaking the law. The Constitution is horseshit with yall.

They hung ole John Brown for treason...how abut that? Wonder what happened to his co-conspirators who are guilty of treason also. You don't have to answer, the truth is too hard for you to admit.

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They hung ole John Brown for treason...how abut that? Wonder what happened to his co-conspirators who are guilty of treason also. You don't have to answer, the truth is too hard for you to admit.
John Brown was a Patriot fighting for Liberty and Freedom
 
They hung your man for treason, not mine. "Glory, glory...hallelujah"

Quantrill
Whats this 'your man' 'my man' shit? Is John Booth 'your man?' Was Wirz? Henry McGruder? Champ Ferguson?

Why are you personalizing this? It was a war that occurred 164 years ago. Everyone is dead for generations. We went on to go to the moon and invent the ultimate queso.
 
I see no one will answer my question about where did they hang John Browns co-conspirators in their attack upon Virginia? As I said, they should have been hung just like they hung John Wilkes Booth's co-conspirators.

A certain group supporting and helping John Brown were called the 'Secret Six'. But alas, at Harpers Ferry Brown had all their names written down which was found among his stuff. Thus their secret was out.

They were: 1.) George Luthor Sterns, 2.) Gerrit Smith, 3.) Thomas Wentworth Higginson, 4.) Samuel Gridley Howe, 5.) Theodore Parker, 6.) Franklin B. Sanborn

1.) George Luthor Sterns--" He was chairman of the Massachusetts Committee which provided arms and other supplies to the anti-slavery elements. He was a financial backer of John Brown's activities and fled to Canada after the Harpers Ferry raid. Returning shortly, he testified before a Congressional committee that it was among the greates events of this age. Following the election of Lincoln, which he had supported, in December 1861 he became the treasurer of the Emancipation League..." (Who Was Who in the Civil War, Stewart Sifakis, Facts On FilePublications, 1988, p. 618)

How about that? Sterns felt the noose around his neck, rightfully so, and got the hell out of there to Canada. Then his people came to power, he returned singing a different song. Harpers Ferry was a great event of this age, he said. And he was rewarded a noteable position.

Co-conspirator with Brown in treason. Instead of being hung, he was rewarded. The traitors were now in power. Sterns was safe.

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Whats this 'your man' 'my man' shit? Is John Booth 'your man?' Was Wirz? Henry McGruder? Champ Ferguson?

Why are you personalizing this? It was a war that occurred 164 years ago. Everyone is dead for generations. We went on to go to the moon and invent the ultimate queso.

Gee, you went to the moon? I'm impressed. What did you go on from?

Quantrill
 
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I see no one will answer my question about where did they hang John Browns co-conspirators in their attack upon Virginia? As I said, they should have been hung just like they hung John Wilkes Booth's co-conspirators.

A certain group supporting and helping John Brown were called the 'Secret Six'. But alas, at Harpers Ferry Brown had all their names written down which was found among his stuff. Thus their secret was out.

They were: 1.) George Luthor Sterns, 2.) Gerrit Smith, 3.) Thomas Wentworth Higginson, 4.) Samuel Gridley Howe, 5.) Theodore Parker, 6.) Franklin B. Sanborn

1.) George Luthor Sterns--" He was chairman of the Massachusetts Committee which provided arms and other supplies to the anti-slavery elements. He was a financial backer of John Brown's activities and fled to Canada after the Harpers Ferry raid. Returning shortly, he testified before a Congressional committee that it was among the greates events of this age. Following the election of Lincoln, which he had supported, in December 1861 he became the treasurer of the Emancipation League..."

How about that? Sterns felt the noose around his neck, rightfully so, and got the hell out of there to Canada. Then his people came to power, he returned singing a different song. Harpers Ferry was a great event of this age, he said. And he was rewarded a noteable position.

Co-conspirator with Brown in treason. Instead of being hung, he was rewarded. The traitors were no in power. Sterns was safe.

Quantrill
Who cares? Its not about the OP. You want to call Brown a terrorist? Sure, I will even stipulate his murdering of others with a sword in Kansas was terrorism.
 
Who cares? Its not about the OP. You want to call Brown a terrorist? Sure, I will even stipulate his murdering of others with a sword in Kansas was terrorism.

Oh yes, it is. It helps reveal who the traitors are. Brown wasn't hung for his murders in Kansas. He was hung as a traitor. Nice try.

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