Were Most Of America's Founding Fathers - Christians

[elektra]

Please cite where you think I denigrate white people.

I already did.

Now explain why nobody of color ebded slavery, why did the Americans lead on this issue.

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NFBW: Let me add a bit from Christian Worldview Press founded by Matt McClellan.

Was John Adams a Christian?​

Category: Theology JULY 25, 2013​

Was Adams a Believer in Jesus Christ?

All of this makes it sound like John Adams was a Christian. He clearly had a mind that followed many Christian principles, and I believe that many American Christians probably would have found themselves comfortable to be around Adams. However, when one looks closely at Adams’s own writings you will discover that he was, in fact, not a Christian.

Let me start with his thinking on Jesus. His beliefs about the person of Jesus Christ were clearly not Biblical. Fea notes that Adams failed the “orthodoxy” test miserably and “[e]ven as he referred to himself as a Christian in his personal writings and letters, Adams was well aware of the fact that his religious beliefs were ‘not exactly conformable to that of the greater Part of the Christian World.’”[9]

Adams noted that his religious convictions could be summed up by John 5:29: “But after all that has been said of doctrines, they only who have done good shall come forth to the resurrection unto life, and they only who have done evil to the resurrection of damnation.”[10] In 1816, he told Thomas Jefferson that it was the Ten Commandments and the Sermon on the Mount that contained his religion.[11] The problem is, of course, 1 John 3:22-23 specifically says that to obey God and do good deeds is to not only love one another, but to believe in the name of Jesus Christ. It is impossible to do good in God’s sight if you do not believe in Jesus.

Adams could not accept the deity of Jesus Christ or that he died for the sins of the world. Adams said, “An incarnate God!!! An eternal, self-existent omnipresent [everywhere] omniscient [all-knowing] Author of this stupendous Universe suffering on a Cross!!! My Soul starts with horror, at the Idea.” The idea that a “finite Being” like Christ making “Satisfaction to infinite justice for the sins of the world” was absurd. These teachings, according to Adams, were not originally part of the Gospel, but were created by the early Church who “understood” Jesus.[12]

This is very similar to what Jefferson believed about Jesus. Romans 10:9 says that to be saved a person must believe that Jesus is Lord, and that he rose from the dead. To say that Jesus is Lord is to affirm that he is the God of the Old Testament in the human form.

Adams also denied the Trinity. He thought that the Trinity violated the First Commandment. This made Adams a Unitarian. A Unitarian believes that God is one, not three. Unitarians believed that God could only be understood through reason. The Trinity cannot be understood by human reason so it must be false. “As a man deeply influenced by the Enlightenment, he could not tolerate any form of religion that seemed to contradict the dictates of reason.” In this way, he was no different than Jefferson.[13]

Adams also rejected the Biblical teaching of original sin and total depravity. By doing this he rejected the very foundation of the Gospel. Jesus came to earth and died for our sins because of original sin – the teaching that Adam and Eve were perfect until they sinned against God. He believed that humans do sin, but not that they were pure evil (in contrary to numerous Scriptures – Genesis 8:21; Romans 3:9-20). He was a believer in Enlightenment thought that humanity will improve and progress. He also did not like the idea that great thinkers in history, for example, Plato, Cicero, and others, were in hell because they rejected Christ. Note that these “great thinkers” were pagans.[14]

Was Adams a Deist?

Some claim that Adams was a deist, the belief that a god created the world, leaves it alone, and performs no miracles. Adams was clearly no deist. He believed that God had intervened in history to overthrow the tyrannical authority that the Catholic Church had held for centuries on Europe. (Adams had a much better attitude towards Protestant Christianity.) He also thought that God always fought for freedom (like in the United States).[15]

Fea says that Adams “was convinced that God was a patriot” and that he was on the side of American progress. “If colonists were not virtuous and continued in their sin, God would not bless their pursuit of independence.”[16] He once said, “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”[17]

This is a strange argument for Adams to make since he believed that God could not be known.[18] If God cannot be known, then how can Adams know that God is a patriot and that he always fights freedom? Adams was a man of his time (the Enlightenment), and because of this a good God had to be on the side of those who believed in reason. Essentially Adams (and others like him) created God in their own image.

Conclusion

John Adams was not a Christian since he rejected the deity and atoning work of Christ. Instead, he was someone who picked out from the Bible what he liked and agreed to, and rejected the things that a “reasonable” people did not like.

Was John Adams a Christian?

Was President John Adams a believer in Jesus Christ? Sadly, the answer is no.

christianworldviewpress.com

Although he was a “moral” person in the eyes of man, he was “immoral” in the eyes of God. END2210031858

Is that all you got? Your opinion you learned from where? School or TV? Democrst talking points. An opinion you confirm by google searching what you been told.

You should read Page Smith. No better biography on John Adams.

A nobody on the internets confirms your belief, and you must believe in that google search with all your faith, your hope, you must trust, Goggle.

In theology he was beng on steering a course between skeptism and Deism on one side and Calvinist orthodoxy on the other.

John Adams believed in a personal god and life after death. John Adams was a good man, not a sinner. Christian in my book.

Your google search of the democrats propaganda will obviously, expectedly, by design, by the programming of google, always result in pages upon pages saying, "yes this democrat propaganda is true".

 

[elektra]

NFBW: I agree white men founded our nation that ended slavery. The truth is, contrary to the falsehoods you cherish, the white men who were founders & chosen by the population to be the first seven presidents, were not Christians. END2210032132

Only by your stereotyping, your obvious problem with our pure white founding., and google democrat propaganda.

Your knowledge is shallow, hence all you got is the democrat propaganda machine

Have you answered why the many other colors of people did not end slavery

Yes WHITE men, believers in God, did what no other country did before. Free the people and the slaves.

White men who studied god and went to church, and sought out priests with knowledge.

White christians, and why were black people notvat the table in 1775? Why were thier no indians? Mexicans? Why were there no poor?

Because none had the education.

The smartest, most religous, christian men ended slavery and began a nation of all created equal, rights givenbto us by the creator, god. Our rights do not come from government.

Go scratch your head with a google search. I will read to you what Adams wrote and what was writtenbabout him by the people who read his papers and letters.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

John Adams believed in a personal god and life after death.

NFBW: His belief in God was not the personal God that revealed himself in the Catholic Holy Bible. Adams’ personal God intervened in the affairs of men to put a stop to the tyranny of that evil Catholic Church by siding with the rational theists who were his fellow leaders of the American revolution.

“My History of the Jesuits is in four volumes.... This society has been a greater calamity to mankind than the French Revolution, or Napoleon's despotism or ideology. It has obstructed progress of reformation and the improvement of the human mind in society much longer and more fatally.” John Adams, Charles Francis Adams (1856). “The Works of John Adams, Second President of the United States: With a Life of the Author, Notes and Illustrations”, p.229

The Church of Rome has made it an article of faith that no man can be saved out of their church, and all other religious sects approach this dreadful opinion in proportion to their ignorance, and the influence of ignorant or wicked priests. John Adams, Charles Francis Adams (1850). “The Works of John Adams, Second President of the United States: Diary, with passages from an autobiography. Notes of debates in the Continental Congress, in 1775 and 1776. Autobiography”, p.5

There exists, I believe, throughout the whole Christian world, a law which makes it blasphemy to deny or doubt the divine inspiration of all the books of the Old and New Testaments, from Genesis to Revelations. In most countries of Europe it is punished by fire at the stake, or the rack, or the wheel... Now, what free inquiry, when a writer must surely encounter the risk of fine or imprisonment for adducing any argument for investigating the divine authority of those books? Thomas Jefferson, John Adams (2006). “"Ye Will Say I Am No Christian": The Thomas Jefferson/John Adams Correspondence on Religion, Morals, and Values

The question before the human race is, Whether the God of nature shall govern the world by his own laws, or whether Priests and Kings shall rule it by fictitious Miracles? Or, in other words, whether authority is originally in the People? Or whether it has descended for 1800 Years in a succession of Popes and Bishops, or brought down from Heaven by the Holy Ghost in the form of a Dove, in a Phial of holy Oil? John Adams, Abigail Adams, Thomas Jefferson (1971). “The Adams-Jefferson letters: the complete correspondence between Thomas Jefferson and Abigail and John Adams”, Touchstone

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[NotfooledbyW]

I will read to you what Adams wrote and what was writtenbabout him by the people who read his papers and letters.

NFBW: Go for it. I look forward to it. Adams wrote his opinion that the Catholic Church survived by keeping subjects in “sordid ignorance and staring timidity”

“We have now, it Seems a National Bible Society to propagate King James’s Bible, through All Nations. Would it not be better, to apply these pious Subscriptions, to purify Christendom from the Corruptions of Christianity; than to propagate those Corruptions in Europe Asia, Africa and America.!” John Adams to Thomas Jefferson, 4 November 1816​

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“My History of the Jesuits is in four volumes.... It has obstructed progress of reformation and the improvement of the human mind in society much longer and more fatally.” John Adams to Thomas Jefferson, 4 November 1816​

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If spoken by a contemporary politician, many of John Adams’ comments about Catholics would render him or her unelectable. In 1765, he wrote that the “whore of Babylon” had falsely grabbed the “keys to heaven”; blasphemously claimed to convert wine into the blood of the Lord; and survived by keeping subjects in “sordid ignorance and staring timidity.”​

Was John Adams an Anti-Catholic Bigot?

Author of 'Founding Faith'

www.beliefnet.com

Its hard to recognize freedom’s champion in this letter to Abigail in which he describes a visit to St. Mary’s Catholic Church in Philadelphiaa. His pen dripping with contempt and pity, Adams catalogues the repellant customs: “The poor wretches fingering their beads, chanting Latin, not a word of which they understood, Their holy Water—their Crossing themselves perpetually—their Bowing to the Name of Jesus, whererever they hyertit – their Bowings, and Kneelings, and Genuflections before the Altar.” He marveled at the power of the gaudy ritual to hypnotize. “But how shall I describe the Picture of our Saviour in a Frame of Marble over the Altar at full Length upon the Cross, in the Agonies, and the Blood dropping and streaming from his Wounds… Here is everything which can lay hold of the Eye, Ear, and Imagination. Every Thing which can charm and bewitch the simple and ignorant.”​

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[NotfooledbyW]

John Adams was a good man

John Adams believed none of the following - A religion that requires belief that ‘God is one God, but three coeternal consubstantial persons’. the Son (part Two of the Trinity) came to earth and shed his blood to atone for all humankind’s sins, was crucified, dead and buried, then rose from the dead and went back to heaven, and all you have to do to avoid eternal damnation in hell is believe the father, son and Holy Ghost story and the preachers and the Bible is the Word of God. No other religion is true. And behave yourself of course to some degree.........

and all that you say elektra is the founding principle and value that created the United States of America through John Adams and others like him.

all very absurd indeed.

John Adams was a very good man without believing any of that.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

your obvious problem with our pure white founding

NFBW: I have absolutely no problem with our pure white collective genius of first generation men who founded American self government by rational enlightened minds that put an end to the church/state enslavement of the individual mind by handing power to the individual with guaranteed freedom of conscience. END2210040220

 

[elektra]

NFBW: I have absolutely no problem with our pure white collective genius of first generation men who founded American self government by rational enlightened minds that put an end to the church/state enslavement of the individual mind by handing power to the individual with guaranteed freedom of conscience. END2210040220

You do have a problem , otherwise you would not specifically address our founders by race.

Thank god for god, for our founders, were men of god

 

[elektra]

John Adams believed none of the following - A religion that requires belief that ‘God is one God, but three coeternal consubstantial persons’. the Son (part Two of the Trinity) came to earth and shed his blood to atone for all humankind’s sins, was crucified, dead and buried, then rose from the dead and went back to heaven, and all you have to do to avoid eternal damnation in hell is believe the father, son and Holy Ghost story and the preachers and the Bible is the Word of God. No other religion is true. And behave yourself of course to some degree.........

Whar have you read of Adams?

The man believed in God , was a christian, despite the parameters in which you wish to imply, that makes a person chrisrian.

The father, son, and holy ghost, are you the one to use the trinity to judge others christianity.

 

[elektra]

NFBW: Go for it. I look forward to it. Adams wrote his opinion that the Catholic Church survived by keeping subjects in “sordid ignorance and staring timidity”

“We have now, it Seems a National Bible Society to propagate King James’s Bible, through All Nations. Would it not be better, to apply these pious Subscriptions, to purify Christendom from the Corruptions of Christianity; than to propagate those Corruptions in Europe Asia, Africa and America.!” John Adams to Thomas Jefferson, 4 November 1816​

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“My History of the Jesuits is in four volumes.... It has obstructed progress of reformation and the improvement of the human mind in society much longer and more fatally.” John Adams to Thomas Jefferson, 4 November 1816​

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If spoken by a contemporary politician, many of John Adams’ comments about Catholics would render him or her unelectable. In 1765, he wrote that the “whore of Babylon” had falsely grabbed the “keys to heaven”; blasphemously claimed to convert wine into the blood of the Lord; and survived by keeping subjects in “sordid ignorance and staring timidity.”​

Was John Adams an Anti-Catholic Bigot?

Author of 'Founding Faith'

www.beliefnet.com

Its hard to recognize freedom’s champion in this letter to Abigail in which he describes a visit to St. Mary’s Catholic Church in Philadelphiaa. His pen dripping with contempt and pity, Adams catalogues the repellant customs: “The poor wretches fingering their beads, chanting Latin, not a word of which they understood, Their holy Water—their Crossing themselves perpetually—their Bowing to the Name of Jesus, whererever they hyertit – their Bowings, and Kneelings, and Genuflections before the Altar.” He marveled at the power of the gaudy ritual to hypnotize. “But how shall I describe the Picture of our Saviour in a Frame of Marble over the Altar at full Length upon the Cross, in the Agonies, and the Blood dropping and streaming from his Wounds… Here is everything which can lay hold of the Eye, Ear, and Imagination. Every Thing which can charm and bewitch the simple and ignorant.”​

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So? It is well known, the abuses and corruption within religions. To take note of and critisize does not make one a christian or not.

Some argue that catholics are part of satan's church. That no man comes between god and man, as the catholic preist does in the confession of sins.

Adams was a wise christian in a time where religion was under going a revolution in thought.

 

[elektra]

NFBW: His belief in God was not the personal God that revealed himself in the Catholic Holy Bible. Adams’ personal God intervened in the affairs of men to put a stop to the tyranny of that evil Catholic Church by siding with the rational theists who were his fellow leaders of the American revolution.

“My History of the Jesuits is in four volumes.... This society has been a greater calamity to mankind than the French Revolution, or Napoleon's despotism or ideology. It has obstructed progress of reformation and the improvement of the human mind in society much longer and more fatally.” John Adams, Charles Francis Adams (1856). “The Works of John Adams, Second President of the United States: With a Life of the Author, Notes and Illustrations”, p.229

The Church of Rome has made it an article of faith that no man can be saved out of their church, and all other religious sects approach this dreadful opinion in proportion to their ignorance, and the influence of ignorant or wicked priests. John Adams, Charles Francis Adams (1850). “The Works of John Adams, Second President of the United States: Diary, with passages from an autobiography. Notes of debates in the Continental Congress, in 1775 and 1776. Autobiography”, p.5

There exists, I believe, throughout the whole Christian world, a law which makes it blasphemy to deny or doubt the divine inspiration of all the books of the Old and New Testaments, from Genesis to Revelations. In most countries of Europe it is punished by fire at the stake, or the rack, or the wheel... Now, what free inquiry, when a writer must surely encounter the risk of fine or imprisonment for adducing any argument for investigating the divine authority of those books? Thomas Jefferson, John Adams (2006). “"Ye Will Say I Am No Christian": The Thomas Jefferson/John Adams Correspondence on Religion, Morals, and Values

The question before the human race is, Whether the God of nature shall govern the world by his own laws, or whether Priests and Kings shall rule it by fictitious Miracles? Or, in other words, whether authority is originally in the People? Or whether it has descended for 1800 Years in a succession of Popes and Bishops, or brought down from Heaven by the Holy Ghost in the form of a Dove, in a Phial of holy Oil? John Adams, Abigail Adams, Thomas Jefferson (1971). “The Adams-Jefferson letters: the complete correspondence between Thomas Jefferson and Abigail and John Adams”, Touchstone

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Yes, critical of religion, again this does not change the fact that he was a christian.

 

[elektra]

Imagine if those Christian Founders had listened to Jesus:
"This is the greatest and the first commandment. And the second is like to this: Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. On these two commandments dependeth the whole law and the prophets.”
"Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets."
Slavery would never had happened in this Christian Nation, n'est-ce pas?

Slavery came to our nation before our founders were born so your idea could never of happened.

What we know is our founding was the turning point for slavery. History has never stopped and turned on a dime.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Yes, critical of religion, again this does not change the fact that he was a christian.

You do have a problem

Thank god for god, for our founders, were men of god

Yes, our first seven president’s were white European men of God, that is a fact. All but one believed in a universal God not limited to the author of the Holy Christian Bible. SIx did not believe that the Bible, that was originally written and preserved by the Catholic Church, was the Word of God.

They did not confess their sins to Jesus and ask Jesus to forgive them?

Nor did they believe that Jesus was any different than them.

JESUS’ mother was not a virgin. Jesus performed no miracles. Jesus had no power to save anyone from sin and ending up in hell. Jesus did not rise from the dead.

That was what the six of the seven first elected US Presidents believed yet they were all good men with the exception that most held slaves coming from a materialistic and economic culture that required slavery to accumulate their family wealth.

Of those seven only Presidents John, and John Quincy Adams did not own slaves and were opposed to the practice.

The only one of the first seven president who professed faith and believed the Bible was the Living Word of God and the foundation and authority of the religion of Christianity was the first Christian President of the United States - John Quincy Adams. He defined what being a Christian was in his time. It was a “man to be a Christian must believe in God, in the Bible, in the Divinity of the Savior’s mission, and in a future state of rewards and punishments.”

When it was feared that Christian influence was waning in New England, he prepared a lecture on Truth, which he delivered in many places.​

America's Christian Rulers: John Quincy Adams › The Forerunner

www.forerunner.com

The premise was: “A man to be a Christian must believe in God, in the Bible, in the Divinity of the Savior’s mission, and in a future state of rewards and punishments.”​

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[NotfooledbyW]

Adams was a wise christian in a time where religion was under going a revolution in thought.

Was Adams and Jefferson Canonized with their thoughts into the holy Bible or something to eliminate the concept of original sin and salvation through the blood of Jesus Christ.

So if God preserves the experience of salvation and holiness from generation to generation by means of a book of revelation how did Adams and Jefferson or any mere mortal add their thoughts and rejections of passages of scripture to the Holy Bible itself.

• Luther grasped this powerful fact: God preserves the experience of salvation and holiness from generation to generation by means of a book of revelation, not a bishop in Rome. The life-giving and life-threatening risk of the Reformation was the rejection of the pope and councils as the infallible, final authority of the church.

He Dared to Defy the Pope | Desiring God​

www.desiringgod.org/articles/he-dared-to-defy-the-p


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[Friends2]

By the end of the eighteenth century the religious passions unleashed by the Protestant Reformation had largely subsided. The only members of "the Founding Fathers" who were definitely deists were Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson. Even Jefferson made a point of attending church every Sunday when he was president. Like Bill Clinton, he made sure reporters saw him do it. There were no obvious atheists. Most of the Founding Fathers were what most American politicians are today. They had a religious affiliation and they attend church with a reasonable degree of regularity, but they do not spend a lot of time thinking about religious matters.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Slavery came to our nation before our founders were born so your idea could never of happened.

Bez is correct and you are wrong due to the simple truth and indisputable fact of reality is the United States of American was not established by them until the average age of the founders, during the framing, was around 35 years. . They were all adults who could have eliminated slavery and written that equal justice for humanity into the Constitution when The United States of America was born.

Prior to the American revolution the 13 colonies were established and under the jurisdiction and legal authority of the Kings or Queens of England. The King of England is supposedly the rush representative of God on earth and slavery was very much condone during that time. White European Christianity both Protestant and Catholic had 1500 years to ban slavery on the earth where they tyrannized the masses and built all the Christian Empires.

I Guess they were more educated and discovered good use for gunpowder before than people they conquered on the African Continent, Africa and the New World who use spears and bows for hunting game. So it was ok to do it in the name of Jesus and the Holy Sacred Blunderbuss.

Slavery would never had happened in this Christian Nation, n'est-ce pas?

 

[elektra]

Yes, our first seven president’s were white European men of God, that is a fact. All but one believed in a universal God not limited to the author of the Holy Christian Bible. SIx did not believe that the Bible, that was originally written and preserved by the Catholic Church, was the Word of God.

They did not confess their sins to Jesus and ask Jesus to forgive them?

Nor did they believe that Jesus was any different than them.

JESUS’ mother was not a virgin. Jesus performed no miracles. Jesus had no power to save anyone from sin and ending up in hell. Jesus did not rise from the dead.

That was what the six of the seven first elected US Presidents believed yet they were all good men with the exception that most held slaves coming from a materialistic and economic culture that required slavery to accumulate their family wealth.

Of those seven only Presidents John, and John Quincy Adams did not own slaves and were opposed to the practice.

The only one of the first seven president who professed faith and believed the Bible was the Living Word of God and the foundation and authority of the religion of Christianity was the first Christian President of the United States - John Quincy Adams. He defined what being a Christian was in his time. It was a “man to be a Christian must believe in God, in the Bible, in the Divinity of the Savior’s mission, and in a future state of rewards and punishments.”

When it was feared that Christian influence was waning in New England, he prepared a lecture on Truth, which he delivered in many places.​

America's Christian Rulers: John Quincy Adams › The Forerunner

www.forerunner.com

The premise was: “A man to be a Christian must believe in God, in the Bible, in the Divinity of the Savior’s mission, and in a future state of rewards and punishments.”​

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Yes, our first seven president’s were white European men of God, that is a fact. All but one believed in a universal God not limited to the author of the Holy Christian Bible. SIx did not believe that the Bible, that was originally written and preserved by the Catholic Church, was the Word of God.

They did not confess their sins to Jesus and ask Jesus to forgive them?

Nor did they believe that Jesus was any different than them.

JESUS’ mother was not a virgin. Jesus performed no miracles. Jesus had no power to save anyone from sin and ending up in hell. Jesus did not rise from the dead.

That was what the six of the seven first elected US Presidents believed yet they were all good men with the exception that most held slaves coming from a materialistic and economic culture that required slavery to accumulate their family wealth.

Of those seven only Presidents John, and John Quincy Adams did not own slaves and were opposed to the practice.

The only one of the first seven president who professed faith and believed the Bible was the Living Word of God and the foundation and authority of the religion of Christianity was the first Christian President of the United States - John Quincy Adams. He defined what being a Christian was in his time. It was a “man to be a Christian must believe in God, in the Bible, in the Divinity of the Savior’s mission, and in a future state of rewards and punishments.”

When it was feared that Christian influence was waning in New England, he prepared a lecture on Truth, which he delivered in many places.​

America's Christian Rulers: John Quincy Adams › The Forerunner

www.forerunner.com

The premise was: “A man to be a Christian must believe in God, in the Bible, in the Divinity of the Savior’s mission, and in a future state of rewards and punishments.”​

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You can believe what you like, you can take the word of google. Me, I read books.

John Adams very much a man of god. Founded our country on the laws of god.

Thomas Jefferson more of the same.

Slaves, chrustians could remain christians while owning slaves.

John Quincy Adams determines what a christian is? I never heard that he was a pastor? Did he study God?

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Most of the Founding Fathers were what most American politicians are today. They had a religious affiliation and they attend church with a reasonable degree of regularity, but they do not spend a lot of time thinking about religious matters.

NFBW: Of the first seven presidents who participated in our founding, Adams Jefferson and Madison spent an exorbitant amount of time thinking about matters of religion matters - much of they rational theist thoughts were focused on the depravity, torture, death and wars and threat to liberty that the Christian religion had left in its wake in Europe and other parts of the Christian World. What do you think was their religious affiliation? END2210041118

 

[NotfooledbyW]

John Quincy Adams determines what a christian is? I never heard that he was a pastor? Did he study God?

OK BookReader - have you read any books by Christian Theologians, Priests, Clergy, Pastors who disagree with this;

The premise was: “A man to be a Christian must believe in God, in the Bible, in the Divinity of the Savior’s mission, and in a future state of rewards and punishments.”

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[elektra]

Bez is correct and you are wrong due to the simple truth and indisputable fact of reality is the United States of American was not established by them until the average age of the founders, during the framing, was around 35 years. . They were all adults who could have eliminated slavery and written that equal justice for humanity into the Constitution when The United States of America was born.

Prior to the American revolution the 13 colonies were established and under the jurisdiction and legal authority of the Kings or Queens of England. The King of England is supposedly the rush representative of God on earth and slavery was very much condone during that time. White European Christianity both Protestant and Catholic had 1500 years to ban slavery on the earth where they tyrannized the masses and built all the Christian Empires.

I Guess they were more educated and discovered good use for gunpowder before than people they conquered on the African Continent, Africa and the New World who use spears and bows for hunting game. So it was ok to do it in the name of Jesus and the Holy Sacred Blunderbuss.

Why did the africans not ban slavery? Or the native americans, or england, or china, or...

Yes, our god believing founders, christians, built this country on the foundation, principles, rights, that ended slavery.

That is fact, it is history. You make a claim that you can not prove. That slavery could of ended instantly.

 

[elektra]

OK BookReader - have you read any books by Christian Theologians, Priests, Clergy, Pastors who disagree with this;


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Start quoting the bible if you wish to discuss the bible.

Hell, quote from the bible john adams wrote/arranged/edited.

Can man judge me? Can man judge our founders?

And again, why was it only the white men of the 13 colonies that ended slavery?

Why dont you answer that question, why was it our founders that were first to start a nstion where all men are recognized as being created equal