We WERE Americans

[Jackson]

Not your quotes???

It's always the RWNJ traitors who are ashamed of their own country.

We would be so much better off if they stopped their whining and their crapping on the USA and just left.

You worthless bums - Love it or leave it.


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Nationalist pride is ALL inclusive. In it's truest and purest form it is the central point of which ALL can gather.

Pretty strange coming from a white supremacist, ignorant, cracker, trailer trash like you.

Wrong guy. Correct general impression but wrong guy.

re you saying those are not his quotes?

That's what I'm saying unless Luddly Neddite is Lone Laughers sock puppet.

Oh shit! I don't believe I made that mistake I make no excuses! I am ashamed. Thank you.

 

[Ravi]

No it's not wrong. What I asked you was in order to accomplish what? Without a political organization in place all you're really talking about is conversation.

I guess you are right. But, we have to have that conversation to get those things done, right? can we come from different viewpoints and compromise on an idea? How can Congress do it if we can't on a mere message board? We have a problem with our egos, I think. What do you think?

OK. I've read several posts of yours calling for compromise. I have a question. Do you believe that the Affordable Care Act represents a case of democrats compromising in order to attain a common goal?

What kind of compromise are you looking for? Earlier in this thread, yesterday, you turned on another poster with your comments:

1) "It's always the RWNJ traitors who are ashamed of their own country.

We would be so much better off if they stopped their whining and their crapping on the USA and just left.

You worthless bums - Love it or leave it"


2) "Pretty strange coming from a white supremacist, ignorant, cracker, trailer trash like you."

Does this lend itself for a continuation of a dialogue? Why should I respond to you when you will return with attacks and name calling? I'm not altruistic here. Just a poster who likes to share ideas with others. You, it appears, find it difficult to put your thoughts out there, to be open to others' possible criticism to continue dialogue. When you don't have a "winning" answer for something you attack like a caged animal.

Now, as to your question, "no." I didn't see it as a compromise. Nancy Pelosi took matters in her own hands and conferred with other Democrats, at times, in my opinion, to primarily get votes. The WH was not looking for a compromise, they were looking for a coup.

Those are not my comments. Are you OK?

So here, for the entire board to see, that you will sink to lying to avoid criticism of your ugly, mentally challenged posts! Look at post 151 and see the quotes. You are not worthy of a dialogue. You are too dishonest to take the time for any one.

dude. you fucked up.

 

[Jackson]

Admitting you were wrong about something is so terrible? I was wrong about something I wrote earlier today and someone corrected me on it. Called me a liar. I read his link and he was right. I was wrong. My message (best to memory)
"Dotcom your are right. I stand corrected. Thank you."
That wasn't so hard to do. None of us are right 100% of the time. Isn't it more responsible to have a reputation of being honest knowing you can't be right all of the time? Some people have a reputation for insulting when the conversation turns on them. That's just the opposite of what we should be doing. Just my 2 cents.

No it's not wrong. What I asked you was in order to accomplish what? Without a political organization in place all you're really talking about is conversation.

I guess you are right. But, we have to have that conversation to get those things done, right? can we come from different viewpoints and compromise on an idea? How can Congress do it if we can't on a mere message board? We have a problem with our egos, I think. What do you think?

OK. I've read several posts of yours calling for compromise. I have a question. Do you believe that the Affordable Care Act represents a case of democrats compromising in order to attain a common goal?

What kind of compromise are you looking for? Earlier in this thread, yesterday, you turned on another poster with your comments:

1) "It's always the RWNJ traitors who are ashamed of their own country.

We would be so much better off if they stopped their whining and their crapping on the USA and just left.

You worthless bums - Love it or leave it"


2) "Pretty strange coming from a white supremacist, ignorant, cracker, trailer trash like you."

Does this lend itself for a continuation of a dialogue? Why should I respond to you when you will return with attacks and name calling? I'm not altruistic here. Just a poster who likes to share ideas with others. You, it appears, find it difficult to put your thoughts out there, to be open to others' possible criticism to continue dialogue. When you don't have a "winning" answer for something you attack like a caged animal.

Now, as to your question, "no." I didn't see it as a compromise. Nancy Pelosi took matters in her own hands and conferred with other Democrats, at times, in my opinion, to primarily get votes. The WH was not looking for a compromise, they were looking for a coup.

Those are not my comments. Are you OK?

I mixed you up with another poster. I am truly embarrassed and apologize profusely. Guess I am not ok!!

 

[Jackson]

I guess you are right. But, we have to have that conversation to get those things done, right? can we come from different viewpoints and compromise on an idea? How can Congress do it if we can't on a mere message board? We have a problem with our egos, I think. What do you think?

OK. I've read several posts of yours calling for compromise. I have a question. Do you believe that the Affordable Care Act represents a case of democrats compromising in order to attain a common goal?

What kind of compromise are you looking for? Earlier in this thread, yesterday, you turned on another poster with your comments:

1) "It's always the RWNJ traitors who are ashamed of their own country.

We would be so much better off if they stopped their whining and their crapping on the USA and just left.

You worthless bums - Love it or leave it"


2) "Pretty strange coming from a white supremacist, ignorant, cracker, trailer trash like you."

Does this lend itself for a continuation of a dialogue? Why should I respond to you when you will return with attacks and name calling? I'm not altruistic here. Just a poster who likes to share ideas with others. You, it appears, find it difficult to put your thoughts out there, to be open to others' possible criticism to continue dialogue. When you don't have a "winning" answer for something you attack like a caged animal.

Now, as to your question, "no." I didn't see it as a compromise. Nancy Pelosi took matters in her own hands and conferred with other Democrats, at times, in my opinion, to primarily get votes. The WH was not looking for a compromise, they were looking for a coup.

Those are not my comments. Are you OK?

So here, for the entire board to see, that you will sink to lying to avoid criticism of your ugly, mentally challenged posts! Look at post 151 and see the quotes. You are not worthy of a dialogue. You are too dishonest to take the time for any one.

dude. you fucked up.

I sure did!

 

[Rouge Rover]

Not your quotes???

It's always the RWNJ traitors who are ashamed of their own country.

We would be so much better off if they stopped their whining and their crapping on the USA and just left.

You worthless bums - Love it or leave it.


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Pretty strange coming from a white supremacist, ignorant, cracker, trailer trash like you.

Wrong guy. Correct general impression but wrong guy.

re you saying those are not his quotes?

That's what I'm saying unless Luddly Neddite is Lone Laughers sock puppet.

Oh shit! I don't believe I made that mistake I make no excuses! I am ashamed. Thank you.

It happens to everyone.

 

[Jackson]

Not your quotes???

Wrong guy. Correct general impression but wrong guy.

re you saying those are not his quotes?

That's what I'm saying unless Luddly Neddite is Lone Laughers sock puppet.

Oh shit! I don't believe I made that mistake I make no excuses! I am ashamed. Thank you.

It happens to everyone.

You are being kind, but I am still upset I accused someone of something he didn't do.

 

[Rouge Rover]

Wrong guy. Correct general impression but wrong guy.

re you saying those are not his quotes?

That's what I'm saying unless Luddly Neddite is Lone Laughers sock puppet.

Oh shit! I don't believe I made that mistake I make no excuses! I am ashamed. Thank you.

It happens to everyone.

You are being kind, but I am still upset I accused someone of something he didn't do.

At least it gave you a chance to practice what you've been preaching. How convenient.

 

[Jackson]

re you saying those are not his quotes?

That's what I'm saying unless Luddly Neddite is Lone Laughers sock puppet.

Oh shit! I don't believe I made that mistake I make no excuses! I am ashamed. Thank you.

It happens to everyone.

You are being kind, but I am still upset I accused someone of something he didn't do.

At least it gave you a chance to practice what you've been preaching. How convenient.

lol, You have a way of turning lemons into lemonades, don't you? I'd rather it hadn't happened, but thank you.

 

[mdk]

The idea that we have somehow lost our national pride is poppycock. We may stumble along the way but America has always been great.

Sorry,I dont believe the millions of immigrants give a rats ass about this country or what it means to be American....and they dont care to learn.
They're here for the free shit.

People have been making that claim since immigrants first arrived to America and yet they assimilate nicely into our culture.

Thats because they crossed an ocean to get here and knew that if they wanted to succeed they had to assimilate.
Now we have a government that forces multiculturalism on it's real citizens which of course they resent and they take it out on the wetbacks.

More of those unintended consequences that liberal policies bring because they never take humane nature into consideration when making up their insane policies.

Crossing an ocean or not doesn't have anything to do with how well immigrants assimilate into culture. The same alarmist arguments were made about countless immigrants from Asia and Eastern European last century. We are a stronger culture and a stronger nation as a result of immigrants.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

The idea that we have somehow lost our national pride is poppycock. We may stumble along the way but America has always been great.

Sorry,I dont believe the millions of immigrants give a rats ass about this country or what it means to be American....and they dont care to learn.
They're here for the free shit.

People have been making that claim since immigrants first arrived to America and yet they assimilate nicely into our culture.

Thats because they crossed an ocean to get here and knew that if they wanted to succeed they had to assimilate.
Now we have a government that forces multiculturalism on it's real citizens which of course they resent and they take it out on the wetbacks.

More of those unintended consequences that liberal policies bring because they never take humane nature into consideration when making up their insane policies.

Crossing an ocean or not doesn't have anything to do with how well immigrants assimilate into culture. The same alarmist arguments were made about countless immigrants from Asia and Eastern European last century. We are a stronger culture and a stronger nation as a result of immigrants.

Makes all the difference.
As it is mexicans come go as they please and they know they'll be going home when they retire and spend the money they made here over there.
Thats just great for our economy and tax base.

You simply cant compare todays immigrant to those of yesteryear,they are in noway alike.

 

[mdk]

The idea that we have somehow lost our national pride is poppycock. We may stumble along the way but America has always been great.

Sorry,I dont believe the millions of immigrants give a rats ass about this country or what it means to be American....and they dont care to learn.
They're here for the free shit.

People have been making that claim since immigrants first arrived to America and yet they assimilate nicely into our culture.

Thats because they crossed an ocean to get here and knew that if they wanted to succeed they had to assimilate.
Now we have a government that forces multiculturalism on it's real citizens which of course they resent and they take it out on the wetbacks.

More of those unintended consequences that liberal policies bring because they never take humane nature into consideration when making up their insane policies.

Crossing an ocean or not doesn't have anything to do with how well immigrants assimilate into culture. The same alarmist arguments were made about countless immigrants from Asia and Eastern European last century. We are a stronger culture and a stronger nation as a result of immigrants.

Makes all the difference.
As it is mexicans come go as they please and they know they'll be going home when they retire and spend the money they made here over there.
Thats just great for our economy and tax base.

You simply cant compare todays immigrant to those of yesteryear,they are in noway alike.

No, it doesn't make a lick of difference. The same exact arguments were made about the immigrants that crossed the oceans to arrive in Ellis and Angle Islands. When it comes down to it, I believe we may have to agree to disagree concerning this topic.

 

[Rouge Rover]

There's always been an anti-immigrant feeling and it's true we did bring in a lot of them in the past but the point of Ellis Island was not to bring in a lot of immigrants, it was to make sure they would be productive and if they were deemed unworthy they were sent back. How many illegal Mexican aliens today could have successfully passed through Ellis Island? I don't think many could have.

 

[Jackson]

There's always been an anti-immigrant feeling and it's true we did bring in a lot of them in the past but the point of Ellis Island was not to bring in a lot of immigrants, it was to make sure they would be productive and if they were deemed unworthy they were sent back. How many illegal Mexican aliens today could have successfully passed through Ellis Island? I don't think many could have.

A very interesting take! We do need vetting of our immigrants. I think that is forgotten by most, especially in a time of our history where we have radicals ready to bring "Death to America."

 

[Moonglow]

There's always been an anti-immigrant feeling and it's true we did bring in a lot of them in the past but the point of Ellis Island was not to bring in a lot of immigrants, it was to make sure they would be productive and if they were deemed unworthy they were sent back. How many illegal Mexican aliens today could have successfully passed through Ellis Island? I don't think many could have.

A very interesting take! We do need vetting of our immigrants. I think that is forgotten by most, especially in a time of our history where we have radicals ready to bring "Death to America."

Or death to the Indians that lived here...

 

[Unkotare]

...
Now we have a government that forces multiculturalism ....

How?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

There WAS a day when that meant something. NATIONAL pride was more then an idea a concept it was a FACT, it was a practice. But it has been slowly stripped away and discarded by political hobo's. I know I am not wrong in remembering this, because it was a part of everyday life.

I'm sure there are MANY members here such as Jackson or randall Flagg even Sonny Clark that can remember this. It was almost inherent in our blood.
Nor are we the only nation or people to endure his FORCED loss. Stratford57 can see it in his country and Lucy Hamilton can see it in hers.

We not only have those left wing lunatics deriding us for ours they insist ALL must give it up. What do our and those government propose to replace it with? SOCIALIST government where NOT a thought is yours. You do realize that government NEVER advances only reacts.

There is no advancement under socialist government because that form of government is designed to be stable and never changing. Under a communist government {USSR} the government builds cars and the design hardly ever changes. MOST socialist countries don't even build cars of their own design.

Canada builds cars for Ford/GM/Dodge/Toyota and Honda. All designed in other countries by other people. Canada builds the Winnebago on an American truck platform. They simply do not design/build their own platforms They have outsourced their tech just as American has outsourced its labor.

There WAS a time when all countries displayed their best. German steel was number one. Russian ship building was the best and America built cars for anywhere in the world on any budget and could handle any road.

National pride. The Russians have re-found theirs in a fellow named Putin. Germany struggles right now to find its and in November the world will watch to see IF America has found hers. We are no more the leader of the free world today then Mexico. Germany is no more Europe's free world leader then Greece.

National pride is the ONLY thing that puts you there because with national pride comes ideas and sweat. Hillary has no national pride and never has. The world has seen and suffered at the lack of Obama. Germany is fast falling into chaos because of its leaders HATE for its people. We in this country have a FLOTUS on record with her hate for our way. Just how stupid was that?

So what makes me think we can make America great again? Because we ARE Americans and that just IS what we do...


Fury

That is your interpretation of what you feel based on what you see. Outside of the internet which is infested with dumbfucks I don't see what you see. I see a proud country that makes mistakes.
If you remove yourself from the Internet 90% of the poison you see disappears.

 

[Unkotare]

National pride has become synonymous with nativism. ....

To whom?

 

[Unkotare]

.......

You simply cant compare todays immigrant to those of yesteryear,they are in noway alike.

Yes you can. They are mostly alike.

 

[bendog]

There WAS a day when that meant something. NATIONAL pride was more then an idea a concept it was a FACT, it was a practice. But it has been slowly stripped away and discarded by political hobo's. I know I am not wrong in remembering this, because it was a part of everyday life.

I'm sure there are MANY members here such as Jackson or randall Flagg even Sonny Clark that can remember this. It was almost inherent in our blood.
Nor are we the only nation or people to endure his FORCED loss. Stratford57 can see it in his country and Lucy Hamilton can see it in hers.

We not only have those left wing lunatics deriding us for ours they insist ALL must give it up. What do our and those government propose to replace it with? SOCIALIST government where NOT a thought is yours. You do realize that government NEVER advances only reacts.

There is no advancement under socialist government because that form of government is designed to be stable and never changing. Under a communist government {USSR} the government builds cars and the design hardly ever changes. MOST socialist countries don't even build cars of their own design.

Canada builds cars for Ford/GM/Dodge/Toyota and Honda. All designed in other countries by other people. Canada builds the Winnebago on an American truck platform. They simply do not design/build their own platforms They have outsourced their tech just as American has outsourced its labor.

There WAS a time when all countries displayed their best. German steel was number one. Russian ship building was the best and America built cars for anywhere in the world on any budget and could handle any road.

National pride. The Russians have re-found theirs in a fellow named Putin. Germany struggles right now to find its and in November the world will watch to see IF America has found hers. We are no more the leader of the free world today then Mexico. Germany is no more Europe's free world leader then Greece.

National pride is the ONLY thing that puts you there because with national pride comes ideas and sweat. Hillary has no national pride and never has. The world has seen and suffered at the lack of Obama. Germany is fast falling into chaos because of its leaders HATE for its people. We in this country have a FLOTUS on record with her hate for our way. Just how stupid was that?

So what makes me think we can make America great again? Because we ARE Americans and that just IS what we do...


Fury

I agree. Every time I hear Daniel Shorr on NPR say "Think about. An African-American has been elected President ...." I die a little. (-:

 

[IsaacNewton]

So for all those that were Americans but aren't now, what are you?

Palins?