We should raise the voting age requirement.

[AzogtheDefiler]

I just think the 18 yr old now is not the same 18 yr old 200 or even 25 years ago. Hence it’s a debate.

I agree it is not, but then again 45 is not the same as it was 200 or even 25 years ago.

I very much dislike the varying ages for adulthood. If we changed the voting age, do we change the age for being tried as an adult for committing a crime? Or the age to legally sign a contract?

Good questions. All good questions. I would probably say, yes.

how about no to all of them, we put the drinking age back to 18 and treat them like the adults they are

Fine but we also eliminate the insurance carry until they are 26 so they have to act like adults and get jobs with their own insurance?

I have no problem them being carried while in college. I did so for my oldest and will for my other. I sure as hell do not recall paying for insurance when I was in college at 18 years old.

Prior to Obama it was 22. I think we go back to that.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

To 22.

Rationale:

When the Constitution was written people were getting married at 18 and starting families shortly thereafter. By 25-26 people were considered mature adults. These days kids can stay on their parents insurance until they are 26. I would still keep it at 18 IF these persons serve in the military. Otherwise I would raise it to 22. Fact is most young people lean very left. This is because they live cushy lives with their parents paying for everything and we have prologed this dependency adolescence now by allowing them to be on their parents insurance until they turn 26. Once people start getting jobs, career paths, having families, often times their political views change as well. They realize why it is important to have fiscal responsibility, strong education system for their kids, etc.

Thoughts?

You know, while it might sound good on paper to keep it at 18 if they serve in the military, consider this.........................out of all the people who are age eligible to join the military (18 to 35 years old), only 30 percent are even eligible to serve. And out of that 30 percent that are eligible, only around 1 percent actually join.

Cool then that 1% can vote at 18.

 

[Polishprince]

I heard this doofus on TV last night talking to Tucker, and explaining 16 year olds should be voting as "they pay taxes".

I'd like to know what alternative universe he lives in. My one nephew worked for Cinemark as a teen,but the rest all sit on their keister. Even he didn't work that many hours. Although he is a good kid, he was ok when I told him if his grandmother wants to attend a movie, he should let her in through the fire exit doors.

 

[ABikerSailor]

I heard this doofus on TV last night talking to Tucker, and explaining 16 year olds should be voting as "they pay taxes".

I'd like to know what alternative universe he lives in. My one nephew worked for Cinemark as a teen,but the rest all sit on their keister. Even he didn't work that many hours. Although he is a good kid, he was ok when I told him if his grandmother wants to attend a movie, he should let her in through the fire exit doors.

So.................you encouraged your nephew to steal from his place of employment?

 

[JWBooth]

To 22.

Rationale:

When the Constitution was written people were getting married at 18 and starting families shortly thereafter. By 25-26 people were considered mature adults. These days kids can stay on their parents insurance until they are 26. I would still keep it at 18 IF these persons serve in the military. Otherwise I would raise it to 22. Fact is most young people lean very left. This is because they live cushy lives with their parents paying for everything and we have prologed this dependency adolescence now by allowing them to be on their parents insurance until they turn 26. Once people start getting jobs, career paths, having families, often times their political views change as well. They realize why it is important to have fiscal responsibility, strong education system for their kids, etc.

Thoughts?

Limit it to landholding men without regard to age.

Why only men?


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OK landholding women as well, but not the Irish

 

[Synthaholic]

Adulthood needs to be set and then all things 'adult" need to be at that age.

at 18 one can legally sign contracts and die for their country, but they cannot drink or pay for a hooker, and now you morons want to make it so they cannot vote.

Yet you cannot rent a car until you're 25 and you missed the BOLD! I said if they serve it should still be 18.

Those are private corporations setting rental terms. There’s nothing in the law that prevents someone under 25 from renting a car.

You remain a dumbass.

It’s actually based on logic and that those with limited driving experience are insurance risks. You’re the real dumbass.

Corporate risk assessment, not Constitutional law.

You “conservatives” are imbeciles.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

We should raise the voting age requirement

No, we shouldn't

I would still keep it at 18 IF these persons serve in the military.

Good to know freedom and liberty is just a token phrase to you and your true ambitions lie within an Animal Farm dystopian society where all animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

I think the fact we have not had fiscal responsibility from our elected officials in longer than we have all be alive shows a flaw in your view that people find it important as they age. If that were the case then we would vote for such people, but we never do.

I agree with you....but also....WHO?

Who the fuck are they supposed to vote for if NO fiscally responsible person EVER runs? This is not 1920, when the likes of Calvin Coolidge was around.

We have no options.

.

 

[22lcidw]

That sounds accurate and all...isn’t joining the military a choice? Are you saying that since an 18 year old can choose to join the military they must be considered good decision makers across the board?

I am saying that you are an adult at 18 or you are not...it is that simple. Not more piecemeal adulthood.

I know many 50 year olds that are shitty decision makers, yet we let them drink and vote.


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I just think the 18 yr old now is not the same 18 yr old 200 or even 25 years ago. Hence it’s a debate.

I agree it is not, but then again 45 is not the same as it was 200 or even 25 years ago.

I very much dislike the varying ages for adulthood. If we changed the voting age, do we change the age for being tried as an adult for committing a crime? Or the age to legally sign a contract?

Good questions. All good questions. I would probably say, yes.

how about no to all of them, we put the drinking age back to 18 and treat them like the adults they are

21 to drink....21 to vote. No criminal charges if caught drinking unless stupidity is evident. I thought different in the past. The military had 2.3 per cent alcohol beer for their soldiers underage at one time. We are living in tougher money resource times as we expand the partay of Progressive Socialist ideas. If you want socialism then there needs to be a realignment downward of what people get paid and benefits and pensions. You will see resistance even if they vote for you.

 

[22lcidw]

I think the fact we have not had fiscal responsibility from our elected officials in longer than we have all be alive shows a flaw in your view that people find it important as they age. If that were the case then we would vote for such people, but we never do.

I agree with you....but also....WHO?

Who the fuck are they supposed to vote for if NO fiscally responsible person EVER runs? This is not 1920, when the likes of Calvin Coolidge was around.

We have no options.

.

More then that. Woody Wilson and his wife with the Federal Reserve Act. the federal income tax with many promises and the election of federal senators removing the states from promoting them and getting into a war shortly after that......well....hey, hey, hey lets have a good time...hey, hey , hey!

 

[Polishprince]

I think the fact we have not had fiscal responsibility from our elected officials in longer than we have all be alive shows a flaw in your view that people find it important as they age. If that were the case then we would vote for such people, but we never do.

I agree with you....but also....WHO?

Who the fuck are they supposed to vote for if NO fiscally responsible person EVER runs? This is not 1920, when the likes of Calvin Coolidge was around.

We have no options.

.

More then that. Woody Wilson and his wife with the Federal Reserve Act. the federal income tax with many promises and the election of federal senators removing the states from promoting them and getting into a war shortly after that......well....hey, hey, hey lets have a good time...hey, hey , hey!

The Federal Income Tax was initially passed because of support from the Prohibitionists.

Before Prohibition was enacted, taxes on booze were the big revenue generator for the Federal government. The Income Tax allowed prohibition to be passed. But when Prohibition was repealed, we still kept the income tax

 

[DJT for Life]

Why?

if you can give your life for your country you should legally be able to drink a fucking beer.

That sounds accurate and all...isn’t joining the military a choice? Are you saying that since an 18 year old can choose to join the military they must be considered good decision makers across the board?

I am saying that you are an adult at 18 or you are not...it is that simple. Not more piecemeal adulthood.

I know many 50 year olds that are shitty decision makers, yet we let them drink and vote.


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I just think the 18 yr old now is not the same 18 yr old 200 or even 25 years ago. Hence it’s a debate.

I agree it is not, but then again 45 is not the same as it was 200 or even 25 years ago.

I very much dislike the varying ages for adulthood. If we changed the voting age, do we change the age for being tried as an adult for committing a crime? Or the age to legally sign a contract?

It would be ten times worse if they tried to lower it to 16.

Then we'd have labor laws that needed to be changed. A great many of them.

Every state that I had locations in had many of the same laws regarding "minors." If you don't have a HS diploma and are under
the age of 18, you cannot work between 8am-3pm when school is in session. You cannot work past 9pm on a school night. (Sun-Thurs).
Those laws even applied to teens under 18 who were married. They were all put in place to discourage kids dropping out of
High School.

It's like the chore of keeping weapons out of the hands of mentally impaired people. There are a great many laws in place, that forbid
anyone from knowing who the mentally ill are (Hippa Laws).

I don't have an issue with mentally deranged from getting weapons, BUT the folks selling the weapons have to know who they are.
And then we have to have laws as to what constitutes a mentally deranged individual. Then the big question would/should be posed.
If an individual is mentally deranged why are they even on the streets, in the first place.,

Writing one law is easy...rewriting 100 or so other laws takes a little bit of time and thought.

 

[The Original Tree]

30 years old

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Adulthood needs to be set and then all things 'adult" need to be at that age.

at 18 one can legally sign contracts and die for their country, but they cannot drink or pay for a hooker, and now you morons want to make it so they cannot vote.

Yet you cannot rent a car until you're 25 and you missed the BOLD! I said if they serve it should still be 18.

Those are private corporations setting rental terms. There’s nothing in the law that prevents someone under 25 from renting a car.

You remain a dumbass.

It’s actually based on logic and that those with limited driving experience are insurance risks. You’re the real dumbass.

Corporate risk assessment, not Constitutional law.

You “conservatives” are imbeciles.

Correct but should we not take notice and perhaps amend it? That is the point of the post. Is the status quo still logical?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

We should raise the voting age requirement

No, we shouldn't

I would still keep it at 18 IF these persons serve in the military.

Good to know freedom and liberty is just a token phrase to you and your true ambitions lie within an Animal Farm dystopian society where all animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.

Not that. To me if you join the military you're likely a bit more ambitious and mature than some college kids or trade school kids who party. Plus if you can lose your life you should vote. I know it is not perfect.

 

[Slyhunter]

I think anyone that votes straight party ticket for two elections in a row should lose their right to vote for the next 10 years.

Anyone who votes for Progressives is too stupid to be allowed to vote.

 

[Polishprince]

I think anyone that votes straight party ticket for two elections in a row should lose their right to vote for the next 10 years.

In many jurisdictions in America, there is only one party. There may be a race between the parties for governor or president, but the local offices are often just all Democrats with no GOP candidates at all.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Adulthood needs to be set and then all things 'adult" need to be at that age.

at 18 one can legally sign contracts and die for their country, but they cannot drink or pay for a hooker, and now you morons want to make it so they cannot vote.

Agree, one age and be done with it, I remember when I was driving with my girlfriend and my twin boys pass a holiday inn, I am like we all can stay for free ( they had a sign kids18 and under, for free)

So dumb you had to post it twice?


How fast was the Holiday Inn going when you passed it? Driving slow in the left lane?

 

[ABikerSailor]

I agree it is not, but then again 45 is not the same as it was 200 or even 25 years ago.

I very much dislike the varying ages for adulthood. If we changed the voting age, do we change the age for being tried as an adult for committing a crime? Or the age to legally sign a contract?

Good questions. All good questions. I would probably say, yes.

how about no to all of them, we put the drinking age back to 18 and treat them like the adults they are

Fine but we also eliminate the insurance carry until they are 26 so they have to act like adults and get jobs with their own insurance?

I have no problem them being carried while in college. I did so for my oldest and will for my other. I sure as hell do not recall paying for insurance when I was in college at 18 years old.

Prior to Obama it was 22. I think we go back to that.

Really? Got a link to back up your claim? Because everything I've read says that it was set at 18 back in 1971, when the 26th Amendment was ratified, which prevents states from having a voting age higher than 18.

You really gotta lay off the Obama crap dude.

 

[g5000]

To 22.

Whoa...hey now. Why you trying to lock Trump's next wife out of voting, man?