We should listen to the “experts”

[JoeB131]

Disability is not welfare. Get your terms straight.

Sure it is... it's just welfare where they make you feel better about yourself.

 

[WEATHER53]

Never again will freedom loving Americans allow fake worst case experts to lockdown so many over so little with so much collateral damage

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Disability is not welfare. Get your terms straight.

Sure it is... it's just welfare where they make you feel better about yourself.

No, welfare is something you get without paying anything or very little into the system. I paid into this system my entire life.

It's amazing what a self-hating white you are. You stick up for my fat lazy HUD neighbors who invaded our neighborhood thanks to your government, and ridicule me who lost his career thanks to the very same people.

I wouldn't doubt if the first thing you do in the morning is stand in front of the mirror and punch yourself in the face because you're so embarrassed about your race.

 

[JoeB131]

No, welfare is something you get without paying anything or very little into the system. I paid into this system my entire life.

Nope. Welfare is something you get from the government for not working.

You are not working. You are getting money from the government. You are on welfare.

It's amazing what a self-hating white you are. You stick up for my fat lazy HUD neighbors who invaded our neighborhood thanks to your government, and ridicule me who lost his career thanks to the very same people.

Guy, nobody is responsible for your problems but you. It's not the government's fault you didn't learn any alternate skills or aren't even trying to find a better job. I don't know what your HUD neighbor's story is... but I'll bet they'd love to take a job, but can't get one because racism..

I wouldn't doubt if the first thing you do in the morning is stand in front of the mirror and punch yourself in the face because you're so embarrassed about your race.

Naw, I have nothing to be embarrassed about because I don't wake up with a defeatist attitude like you do.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Nope. Welfare is something you get from the government for not working.

You are not working. You are getting money from the government. You are on welfare.

Nope, I'm collecting from a government insurance program I paid into; no different than collecting from a car accident or house fire from private insurance.

Government put me out of work, so government should compensate, especially with the tens of thousands they collected from me and my employers all of my life.

I didn't volunteer to be on disability, they put me on disability. And like I said, when you offer better credentials than several government doctors about my condition, then shoot off your self-hating mouth. Until that time, keep it shut because you only expose yourself as the hypocrite you always were.

Guy, nobody is responsible for your problems but you. It's not the government's fault you didn't learn any alternate skills or aren't even trying to find a better job. I don't know what your HUD neighbor's story is... but I'll bet they'd love to take a job, but can't get one because racism..

They don't want a job. You don't have a bunch of kids you could never afford and then say racism stopped you from supporting them. We outlawed discrimination in hiring back in the 60's. But as a self-hating white, you constantly stick up for them when I post my concerns and complaints.

I asked you what kind of work a 60 year old with no experience at anything except what he did could do to make a livable wage. You couldn't answer and still can't. That's because it isn't possible. Nobody has a career and learns an alternative one in case they can't continue with their original line of work. In order to have an alternative career, you would have to not only be trained in that career, but have plenty of experience at it to be hired for it in your senior years. In other words, you are talking out of your ass like always.

Naw, I have nothing to be embarrassed about because I don't wake up with a defeatist attitude like you do.

Perhaps, but you do wake up hating yourself. I can't imagine living like that.

 

[JoeB131]

Nope, I'm collecting from a government insurance program I paid into; no different than collecting from a car accident or house fire from private insurance.

Except no private insurer ever would have insured you. So again- WELFARE.

I didn't volunteer to be on disability, they put me on disability.

That works on the assumption that you can't possibly do anything else, ever. That's simply not the case. You just refuse to. Just like your HUD Neighbors. Except they are dealing with 400 years of institutionalized racism... you've had all the advantages of being a white person in a racist society, and you STILL managed to fuck it up.

They don't want a job. You don't have a bunch of kids you could never afford and then say racism stopped you from supporting them. We outlawed discrimination in hiring back in the 60's.

Wow. Really? Hey, guess what, we "outlawed" prostitution, but there were about six "Happy Ending" Massage parlors within five miles of me. (Covid finally shut most of them down). We've outlawed drug use, but there are all sorts of people who engage in that. So you really think that the racists who ball up a resume that reads "Jamal Jefferson" is suddenly concerned with a law that no one is enforcing.

I asked you what kind of work a 60 year old with no experience at anything except what he did could do to make a livable wage. You couldn't answer and still can't.

I did. Anything in customer service. Before your Orange Fuhrer wrecked the economy, they were begging for those people.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Except no private insurer ever would have insured you. So again- WELFARE.

Nope. Before Commie Care, I had medical insurance my entire adult life. I always had car insurance and house insurance. Nobody ever refused me when it came to insurance. The agent for my car and house insurance begged me to get a life insurance policy with them.

I believe in God, or in your case, Karma. So your time is coming very soon I'm sure.

That works on the assumption that you can't possibly do anything else, ever. That's simply not the case. You just refuse to. Just like your HUD Neighbors. Except they are dealing with 400 years of institutionalized racism... you've had all the advantages of being a white person in a racist society, and you STILL managed to fuck it up.

I managed to fuck it up how, by having medical disabilities? Karma Joe, very soon I predict. Your days are numbered.

Wow. Really? Hey, guess what, we "outlawed" prostitution, but there were about six "Happy Ending" Massage parlors within five miles of me. (Covid finally shut most of them down). We've outlawed drug use, but there are all sorts of people who engage in that. So you really think that the racists who ball up a resume that reads "Jamal Jefferson" is suddenly concerned with a law that no one is enforcing.

And when they get busted, they end up in jail, then court, then sentencing. You haven't seen that in many years in this country with employment. Well......there have been phony claims made, but none legitimate.

I did. Anything in customer service. Before your Orange Fuhrer wrecked the economy, they were begging for those people.

Of course they were begging for people. A job like that pays ten bucks an hour at best.

 

[JoeB131]

Nope. Before Commie Care, I had medical insurance my entire adult life. I always had car insurance and house insurance. Nobody ever refused me when it came to insurance. The agent for my car and house insurance begged me to get a life insurance policy with them.

Guy, you couldn't afford health insurance on your own, much less disability insurance. You can only get it collectively... so again- W-E-L-F-A-R-E

I believe in God, or in your case, Karma. So your time is coming very soon I'm sure.

All the really bad stuff happened to me when I was young. Karma owes me one.

I managed to fuck it up how, by having medical disabilities? Karma Joe, very soon I predict. Your days are numbered.

By knowing for years that your disabilities limited your ability to work, and not developing other skills.

And when they get busted, they end up in jail, then court, then sentencing. You haven't seen that in many years in this country with employment. Well......there have been phony claims made, but none legitimate.

Actually, no. The Happy Ending Massage parlors get busted, they are usually up again the next day. Or they move to another location under a new name. And these are very shoestring operations, unlike big corporations, which have a whole array of tricks they use to keep discriminating but keeping out of court.

For instance, a company I worked for in the 1990's fired a woman supervisor and she brought suit. They responded by promoting another chick to a supervisory position so they could say, "See, we promote women!!!" They fired her as soon as the lawsuit was over. The first lady who was fired won a settlement of a whopping $200.00. And this was when you had an EEOC that did it's job.

Of course they were begging for people. A job like that pays ten bucks an hour at best.

Check it out... it's a job search I just did for my area.

Customer Service Representative Jobs, Employment in Roselle, IL | Indeed.com

2,716 Customer Service Representative jobs available in Roselle, IL on Indeed.com.

www.indeed.com

First one that came up, CSR position paying $45,000 a year.
Scroll down a bit, you'll find one paying $15-16 an hour.

I wouldn't take those jobs, but they do pay a LIVING wage.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Guy, you couldn't afford health insurance on your own, much less disability insurance. You can only get it collectively... so again- W-E-L-F-A-R-E

Nope, not welfare at all. Why do you prefer to display your ignorance so openly? Speaking of ignorance, since you treasure it so dearly and won't read sites, I'll post an excerpt for you:

Medically Qualifying For Social Security Disability

To qualify for Social Security Disability, you must have a medically disabling condition that has either lasted or that will last at least 12 months, or a condition that is expected to result in your death. You will need to provide hard medical evidence confirming your diagnosis and detailing the severity of your condition and your restrictions and limitations. The SSA uses a medical guide, which is called the Blue Book, to determine if a claimant meets the medical criteria to qualify. If you have a disabling condition, but you cannot meet the specific criteria of a disability listing, you may be able to qualify using a medical vocational allowance that takes your age, educational background, work history, any transferrable skills, and medical problems all into consideration to determine your eligibility.

To qualify for SSDI, you must have paid enough in Social Security taxes and earned enough credits to be covered by the program. In general, that usually means having worked 5 years full-time out of the last 10 years.

Again, I'd post the link, but as always, it would be a waste of my time with you.

All the really bad stuff happened to me when I was young. Karma owes me one.

You mean you were a POS going all the way back then?

By knowing for years that your disabilities limited your ability to work, and not developing other skills.

That's because I was happy with my job and earnings. I expected to do it until retirement, but I had no idea how bad government could actually get in the future.

Actually, no. The Happy Ending Massage parlors get busted, they are usually up again the next day. Or they move to another location under a new name. And these are very shoestring operations, unlike big corporations, which have a whole array of tricks they use to keep discriminating but keeping out of court.

For instance, a company I worked for in the 1990's fired a woman supervisor and she brought suit. They responded by promoting another chick to a supervisory position so they could say, "See, we promote women!!!" They fired her as soon as the lawsuit was over. The first lady who was fired won a settlement of a whopping $200.00. And this was when you had an EEOC that did it's job.

So what you're saying is a woman used her gender to retaliate against her former company who let her go for doing an unsatisfactory job. Seems to me everywhere you ever worked in your life, you experienced all these terrible things that nobody else has, and it was always the company fault, not the individual.

First one that came up, CSR position paying $45,000 a year.
Scroll down a bit, you'll find one paying $15-16 an hour.

I wouldn't take those jobs, but they do pay a LIVING wage.

My Lord. Doctor Joe, don't you ever read your own links? You're embarrassing yourself already. First off, it actually only pays $15.00 an hour. Secondly, I don't come close to those requirements, even if I lived in that area. From your post.

Experience:

• office: 1 year (Required)
• customer service: 1 year (Required)
• QuickBooks: 1 year (Preferred)

 

[JoeB131]

Nope, not welfare at all. Why do you prefer to display your ignorance so openly? Speaking of ignorance, since you treasure it so dearly and won't read sites, I'll post an excerpt for you:

So you are getting welfare for not working. It's still welfare. Which I'm fine with. But don't pretend it isn't a form of socialism.

That's because I was happy with my job and earnings. I expected to do it until retirement, but I had no idea how bad government could actually get in the future.

Again, probably because someone with your disability was involved in a terrible accident.

So what you're saying is a woman used her gender to retaliate against her former company who let her go for doing an unsatisfactory job. Seems to me everywhere you ever worked in your life, you experienced all these terrible things that nobody else has, and it was always the company fault, not the individual.

It was always the fault of the company... I've said there are no bad employees, only bad management and bad hires. This company, which went out of business shortly after this, was probably the worst. Little weasel manager, the owners were a couple of brothers who inherited it from their parents and never did a hard day of work in their lives. In the time I was there, 96 people got fired or quit in a 3-1/2 year period before they let the whole lot of us go.

But yes, in the 30 years since I left the Army, I've seen so much bad management it makes my head spin. Good managers move on to the next opportunity, bad managers refuse to go away.

My Lord. Doctor Joe, don't you ever read your own links? You're embarrassing yourself already. First off, it actually only pays $15.00 an hour. Secondly, I don't come close to those requirements, even if I lived in that area. From your post.

One year of customer service experience? You could easily have spun that. (I'm assuming you scrolled down to the second one."

Look, buddy, here's the thing I tell all my resume clients when they aren't sure if they should apply for a job... "The worst thing they can say is "no".

 

[P@triot]

Wow, you mean a cop couldn't POSSIBLY make up a bullshit charge to justify his abuse of power. Why, that would be just unheard of.

Joe the Troll working overtime to convince everyone he actually believes that the ANTIFA thugs and BLM thugs are the innocent, peaceful, loving community leaders and law enforcement are the "evil" thugs.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

So you are getting welfare for not working. It's still welfare. Which I'm fine with. But don't pretend it isn't a form of socialism.

I never said it wasn't socialism. All government programs are. But social programs are not welfare. I would have retired in two more years anyhow, and if it played out that way, retiring and collecting SS is not welfare either. Why? Because I paid into it my entire life.

Again, probably because someone with your disability was involved in a terrible accident.

So what you're saying is you approve of stereotyping and profiling. Great admission on your part. I'll remember that in the future.

This company, which went out of business shortly after this, was probably the worst. Little weasel manager, the owners were a couple of brothers who inherited it from their parents and never did a hard day of work in their lives.

Oh, so what you're saying is that it takes work, experience and talent to make a company successful. Even if it's handed to you on a silver platter, you still need to work and make it a success. That's a real contrast to your comrades who constantly make claim that the Presidents success in his prior life was due to his father handing him millions.

One year of customer service experience? You could easily have spun that. (I'm assuming you scrolled down to the second one."

Look, buddy, here's the thing I tell all my resume clients when they aren't sure if they should apply for a job... "The worst thing they can say is "no".

My time is valuable just like anybody else. I'm not going to apply for a low paying job that I don't even qualify for. You didn't prove your point, you proved mine. I guess I should just say thanks up front since you do that so frequently here.

 

[irosie91]

You mean youre actually glad that Drumpf called the virus a dem hoax and killed an unknown number of people as a result?

read it again, butterfly, he did not say what you wish he had said. In fact what he did say was sorta nonspecific. He just is an advocate of doctors' opinion over yours

 

[irosie91]

Wow, you mean a cop couldn't POSSIBLY make up a bullshit charge to justify his abuse of power. Why, that would be just unheard of.

Joe the Troll working overtime to convince everyone he actually believes that the ANTIFA thugs and BLM thugs are the innocent, peaceful, loving community leaders and law enforcement are the "evil" thugs.

I like cops. They work under extremely stressful conditions. Firemen too

 

[JoeB131]

Joe the Troll working overtime to convince everyone he actually believes that the ANTIFA thugs and BLM thugs are the innocent, peaceful, loving community leaders and law enforcement are the "evil" thugs.

Tamir Rice. Laquan McDonald. Sandra Bland. George Floyd... I think we can make a case for cops being thugs in those cases.

 

[JoeB131]

I like cops. They work under extremely stressful conditions. Firemen too

Yes, they do. 99% of cops are great guys. 1% are the bad apples.

 

[JoeB131]

I never said it wasn't socialism. All government programs are. But social programs are not welfare. I would have retired in two more years anyhow, and if it played out that way, retiring and collecting SS is not welfare either. Why? Because I paid into it my entire life.

Just find it funny, "Socialism for me, and not for thee..."

So what you're saying is you approve of stereotyping and profiling. Great admission on your part. I'll remember that in the future.

Uh, if the "Stereotype" was the cause of the accident, yeah.

Oh, so what you're saying is that it takes work, experience and talent to make a company successful. Even if it's handed to you on a silver platter, you still need to work and make it a success. That's a real contrast to your comrades who constantly make claim that the Presidents success in his prior life was due to his father handing him millions.

Actually, Trump was just like the Douchebag Brothers, they just ran through Mommy's money a lot faster.

My time is valuable just like anybody else. I'm not going to apply for a low paying job that I don't even qualify for. You didn't prove your point, you proved mine. I guess I should just say thanks up front since you do that so frequently here.

Again, your only limitation is your own laziness and defeatism.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Just find it funny, "Socialism for me, and not for thee..."

I had no choice but to support the program. It's only right I collect from it when needed. That's not the case for welfare in most instances. I have always said (and still say) if you are physically and mentally capable of working, you should be working.

Actually, Trump was just like the Douchebag Brothers, they just ran through Mommy's money a lot faster.

That's not the point. The point is Donald Trump worked hard throughout his life to make himself a billionaire. Managing money is a responsibility. It's not for everybody, in fact, it's not for most people. There have been books written about lottery winners who's prize was the worst thing that happened to them in their lives.

Again, your only limitation is your own laziness and defeatism.

Actually, I'm working harder than ever before, on my own investment.

 

[WEATHER53]

Nope. Welfare is something you get from the government for not working.

You are not working. You are getting money from the government. You are on welfare.

Nope, I'm collecting from a government insurance program I paid into; no different than collecting from a car accident or house fire from private insurance.

Government put me out of work, so government should compensate, especially with the tens of thousands they collected from me and my employers all of my life.

I didn't volunteer to be on disability, they put me on disability. And like I said, when you offer better credentials than several government doctors about my condition, then shoot off your self-hating mouth. Until that time, keep it shut because you only expose yourself as the hypocrite you always were.

Guy, nobody is responsible for your problems but you. It's not the government's fault you didn't learn any alternate skills or aren't even trying to find a better job. I don't know what your HUD neighbor's story is... but I'll bet they'd love to take a job, but can't get one because racism..

They don't want a job. You don't have a bunch of kids you could never afford and then say racism stopped you from supporting them. We outlawed discrimination in hiring back in the 60's. But as a self-hating white, you constantly stick up for them when I post my concerns and complaints.

I asked you what kind of work a 60 year old with no experience at anything except what he did could do to make a livable wage. You couldn't answer and still can't. That's because it isn't possible. Nobody has a career and learns an alternative one in case they can't continue with their original line of work. In order to have an alternative career, you would have to not only be trained in that career, but have plenty of experience at it to be hired for it in your senior years. In other words, you are talking out of your ass like always.

Naw, I have nothing to be embarrassed about because I don't wake up with a defeatist attitude like you do.

Perhaps, but you do wake up hating yourself. I can't imagine living like that.

Half of these tards never worked so they don’t know the difference between what you and I paid into at $2-4,000 per year for 30/40 years versus never paying a dime for your own well being and sucking at our teat to get their freebies.
They should be very embarrassed but instead are very accusatory

 

[JoeB131]

I had no choice but to support the program. It's only right I collect from it when needed. That's not the case for welfare in most instances. I have always said (and still say) if you are physically and mentally capable of working, you should be working.

You are mentally and physically capable of working, you shouldn't be getting welfare.

That's not the point. The point is Donald Trump worked hard throughout his life to make himself a billionaire. Managing money is a responsibility. It's not for everybody, in fact, it's not for most people. There have been books written about lottery winners who's prize was the worst thing that happened to them in their lives.

First, I don't believe Trump is a billionaire. Secondly, most of his success has been tricking other people into financing his schemes and then declaring bankruptcy.

Half of these tards never worked so they don’t know the difference between what you and I paid into at $2-4,000 per year for 30/40 years versus never paying a dime for your own well being and sucking at our teat to get their freebies.
They should be very embarrassed but instead are very accusatory

I've been working since I was 16. I'm 58 now. Part of that work included service in the United States Army.

Look, I am all for Social Security. I don't even have a problem with Ray collecting a disability check. It's his pretending that he's better than his HUD neighbors (who probably have jobs, just not ones that pay very well) when he isn't.