We should be clear about the reason for the necessity of Israel's attack on Iran's nuclear facilities.

[Rocko]

Wrong. It was working. Not perfectly but working

Emphasis on WAS


Trump stupidly killed it.

It was either working or it wasn’t working. There’s no in between. And it wasn’t working because Iran never gave up trying to get nukes.

 

[berg80]

It was either working or it wasn’t working. There’s no in between. And it wasn’t working because Iran never gave up trying to get nukes.

They were adhering to the conditions of the agreement preventing them from acquiring the means to develop a nuclear bomb. What they desired is immaterial.

 

[Lesh]

It was either working or it wasn’t working. There’s no in between. And it wasn’t working because Iran never gave up trying to get nukes.

That’s bullshit. There were minor breeches but we were still able to monitor what they were doing and impact that.

You know nothing about this other than your devotion to Dear Leadt

 

[Lesh]

They mullahs were not allowing inspections while receiving pallets of American dollars flown in by obama on the advice of persian sympathizer valery jarrett

Not true

 

[Rocko]

They were adhering to the conditions of the agreement preventing them from acquiring the means to develop a nuclear bomb. What they desired is immaterial.

how do you know? They agreed to police themselves. Listen guy Obama gave them a path to develop nukes with the sunset clause. The was agreement was ineffective and toothless. The only thing Obama did was give the number one terrorist nation in the world lots and lots of money.

 

[toobfreak]

It also drew a rare public rebuke by Mr. Obama, who said Mr. Trump’s withdrawal would leave the world less safe, ​

TOO FUNNY. A rare rebuke from Obumma, where not a week goes by without Joe Biden's puppet master not ragging about Trump, the guy Obumma said would never be president.

And about a world less safe, from the guy who ignored ISIS for two years afraid it might impact his reelection, calling it a JV team, resulting in the destruction of half of Europe today.

 

[Crepitus]

Trump didn't abandon anything.

That is a lie.

 

[Crepitus]

The private deal that Obama and the mullahs made was never ratified by the US Senate, so Trump wasn't bound by it.

That is also a lie.

 

[Crepitus]

Iran was ignoring the "Deal" from the moment the ink dried on it.

This too is a lie.

 

[j-mac]

They were adhering to the conditions of the agreement preventing them from acquiring the means to develop a nuclear bomb. What they desired is immaterial.

That is just a straight up lie....

UN nuclear agency's board votes to censure Iran for failing to cooperate fully with the watchdog

Diplomats say the U.N. nuclear watchdog’s board has censured Iran for failing to cooperate fully with the agency.

apnews.com

 

[Crepitus]

Your immense hatred for the man blinds you to the reality and facts of the matter.

You just can't see him clearly with your nose jammed that far up his ass.

 

[Polishprince]

That is also a lie.

How is that a lie?

Are you unfamiliar with the US Constitution and the requirement for treaties to be ratified?

 

[irosie91]

Did you notice there has been an exchange of rocket fire between Iran and Israel since Thursday?

what is your point----it has been ongoing FROM IRANIAN PROXIES since the great manifestation
of islamic glory----to wit October 7. That some of it now comes directly from Iran is a big
NUTHIN' NEW

 

[berg80]

how do you know? They agreed to police themselves. Listen guy Obama gave them a path to develop nukes with the sunset clause. The was agreement was ineffective and toothless. The only thing Obama did was give the number one terrorist nation in the world lots and lots of money.

Secretary Pompeo also claimed that, “after the countdown clock ran out on the deal’s sunset provisions, Iran would be free for a quick sprint to the bomb, setting off a potentially catastrophic arms race in the region.” First, as long as Iran remains in the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT), it will never be free to pursue a nuclear weapon. It was the NPT that provided the legal foundation for the sanctions that brought Iran to the negotiating table in the first place. Second, Iran is now implementing the IAEA’s Additional Protocol, which significantly enhances the capabilities of international nuclear inspectors to search for clandestine programs. Under the terms of the JCPOA, Iran is supposed to extend the Additional Protocol indefinitely via ratification in 2023.

Further, if the Trump Administration had concerns about sunset provisions in the JCPOA, trying to improve the agreement seems easier than burning it down and starting again. The Trump team could have also pushed for negotiations on a testing moratorium or regional accession to the Comprehensive Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty, since Egypt, Iran, and Israel are all signatories to that agreement. Either option would have reduced proliferation threats in the region.

The final critique the Trump Administration leveled on the JCPOA was that it “did nothing to address Iran’s continuing development of ballistic and cruise missiles, which could deliver nuclear warheads.” While the JCPOA focused exclusively on the Iranian nuclear program, UN Security Council Resolution 2231, which endorses and helps implement the JCPOA, calls upon Iran “not to undertake any activity related to ballistic missiles designed to be capable of delivering nuclear weapons” until 2023. Iran’s compliance with this provision — although it is not legally binding — is murky, but the Trump Administration did not pursue negotiations to address its concerns.
https://armscontrolcenter.org/a-wor...rs-since-president-trump-abandoned-the-jcpoa/

Read this over as well.

Iran Nuclear Deal: Debunking the Myths - Center for Arms Control and Non-Proliferation

A factsheet to address the claims made by the opposition to the Iran deal.

armscontrolcenter.org

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Six years after former President Donald Trump’s withdrawal from the Iran nuclear deal, the disastrous consequences of this decision are still adding up.

In addition to Iran being closer than ever to a nuclear weapons capability, now we must consider how the declining security situation in the Middle East has raised the stakes significantly. Trump promised a “better deal” but instead we got an increasingly costly blunder that may be impossible to fix.

To fully understand the enormity of Trump’s decision to leave the Iran deal, consider this: When the U.S. and Iran were complying with the deal, it was estimated that it would take Iran about one year to produce enough fissile material (in this case, weapons grade uranium) for a nuclear bomb (known as the “breakout” time). The states negotiating with Iran (the United States, Russia, China, Great Britain, France, and Germany) assessed that this would be enough time to respond to possible violations and prevent Iran from producing a bomb. Even if Iran were to acquire sufficient fissile material, it could still take another year for Iran to make a deliverable nuclear weapon. As of May, 2018, the deal was working and considered (by most) to be a great success.

Then President Trump unilaterally left the deal, calling it a “horrible one-sided deal that should have never, ever been made.” And now we are in a much worse place. Iran says it has no intent to produce nuclear weapons and U.S. intelligence sees no current efforts by Tehran to weaponize, yet Tehran is believed to be not one year but just weeks from being able to produce enough fissile material for a bomb if it chooses to do so.
Killing the Iran nuclear deal was one of Trump's biggest failures

Only leftards believe Iran ever adhered to the nuclear deal.
Trump was right to ramp up sanctions against them.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

That is also a lie.

How many votes did it get in the Senate?

 

[Rigby5]

The private deal that Obama and the mullahs made was never ratified by the US Senate, so Trump wasn't bound by it.

Trump was bound by it because it is legal for Iran to develop nuclear materials including weapons if they feel they need a deterrent against US aggression.
It is not legal for anyone to attack Iran, and since the US signed the UN charter against the use of force, the US must now stop funding any weapons to Israel.

 

[Rigby5]

Again, they were ignoring the deal from the day it was signed.

That is a lie.
And the obvious proof is that the original deal was negotiated by Obama around 2010, and if Iran has ignored the deal, they would have had nuclear weapon in just a few years after that.
Since Iran still does not have nuclear weapons, then clearly they DID follow the deal and stopped trying to make a nuclear weapon.

 

[Polishprince]

Trump was bound by it because it is legal for Iran to develop nuclear materials including weapons if they feel they need a deterrent against US aggression.
It is not legal for anyone to attack Iran, and since the US signed the UN charter against the use of force, the US must now stop funding any weapons to Israel.

Its not legal for anyone to attack the Jews, particularly the illegitimate government of Iran.

And no, President Trump has made it crystal clear that the crazed islamonazis in Tehran have no need for nukes and we just aren't going to permit them to develop them.

 

[Rigby5]

Iran ignored the Clinton deal; Iran ignored the Obama deal. There is no realistic reason to think they would honor a Trump deal. They will eventually have nuclear weapons with or without US/Israeli consent. North Korea showed that the US is a paper tiger on this issue.

Obvious lie.
If Iran had ignored deals, then they would have had nuclear weapons decades ago.
No country requires US consent.
By ratifying the UN treaty for members, now the US is obligated to cut all ties with Israel due to their illegal aggression.