We know what happened with Paul Pelosi

[jc456]

What attack?

Lesh , What attack?

Show us. Let's see the evidence

 

[justoffal]

it's actually quite simple, the cops filed a report, they reported they were let in by peloser. Peloser wasn't injured and did not ask for help when they walked in, it was after the cops got in that supposedly hammer time occurred. NBC reported that on day one. Why would they lie? Why would local cops lie? Paul Peloser is not JFK and we don't need to seal his encounter like JFK unless......................................... there's something to see. Agree?

Yes and the reporter was apparently subsequently canned or at least stuffed away.

 

[justoffal]

What attack?

80 year old Co-Thief of tax payer monies is more like it

 

[jc456]

Yes and the reporter was apparently subsequently canned or at least stuffed away.

I know, again, the demofks have no empathy for anyone. Guy just doing his job and hits demofk land mine

 

[Toro]

After intro vid starts at 1:57. Pelosi opened the door then walked back into his house, police were there when Depape hit him with hammer and FBI tried to cover it up

Shit like this is why you crazy loons keep losing elections.

 

[jehanne1431]

Imagine hating a political person so much that you take delight in their spouse being beaten nearly to death. . What a sad state the grand ol' party has sunk to.

Except for one thing; Conservatives (or the right) have about 20,000 jerks and despicable human beings who sometimes open their mouths, while the left has roughly 40 million angry, hateful, hypocrites who are a serious pox on this nation. ----------- And how come it never bothers you how dishonest is the mainstream media that covers up every single one of the left’s scandals or lies? . . Since you are in a “judging” mood here today, I thought I would ask.

 

[jc456]

Shit like this is why you crazy loons keep losing elections.

who will have the house?

 

[g5000]

Did the feds contradict the local police or not?

You chose to believe Biden's Justice Dept

I am waiting for the court transcripts, the police body cams, and the Capitol police camera feed.

I have chosen to believe nothing until then. Especially some gay sex masturbation fantasy concocted out of thin air by the prolific and non-stop liars who have been hoaxing you for decades.

 

[g5000]

Politically charged topic such as this one tend to make people jump to conclusions. While you and I do not share the same outlook politically I certainly cannot argue with your penchant for checking the facts and neither should anyone else be arguing with it.

I would posit that in this case the overreaction to the Pelosi drama was well nurtured by many years of having the full left-wing fact-free attack mode on display taken to levels of perfection beyond my wildest dreams. Having said that critical thinking has no politics and should always be applied.

Jo

Okay, thanks.

Now lets compare notes about "fact-free attack mode" hoaxes. I'll give you the right wing hoaxes, you give me the left wing hoaxes.

Ready?



Paul Pelosi was involved in a lover's quarrel with his gay prostitute.

Americans are dropping like flies after taking the Kung Flu vaccine.

The Covid vaccine alters your DNA.

The Covid vaccine makes you magnetic.

Covid is no worse than the flu.

Covid is a hoax.

“Cheese pizza” is Democrat code for child pornography.

Jewish space lasers started the fires in California.

The 9/11 attacks were a US government operation.

The Parkland school shooting was staged.

Hillary Clinton and her aide Huma Abedin sexually assaulted and murdered a child, drank their blood, cut its face off and wore it as a mask.

As of September 2015, Crooked Hillary had only six months to live.

Sleepy Joe Biden will be determined to be too far mentally gone to continue in office within his first six months in the White House and Phony Kamala Harris will take over.

The Italian defense, security and aerospace company Leonardo SpA used military satellites to change votes for Trump to votes for Biden.

Deceased Venezuelan Marxist Hugo Chavez rigged Dominion voting machines to change Trump votes to Biden votes.

Donald Trump will be reinstated in the White House in August 2021.

The DNC servers are in Ukraine.

Windmill noise causes cancer.

Trump won the 2020 election.

ObaMao is a Muslim. We know this because he attended the Trinity United Church of Christ for decades and killed more Muslims than any other president, including the Muslim responsible for the greatest attack on America since Pearl Harbor.

President Trump is facing down a shadowy cabal of Democratic pedophiles, including Crooked Hillary, Barack HUSSEIN Obama, John Podesta, and other high-ranking Democrats.

Barack Obama was born in Kenya. We know this because there is zero evidence his mother ever visited there.

Deep State! Deep State!

Jeffrey Epstein was killed by Bill Clinton.


Lyin’ Ted Cruz's dad was complicit in the assassination of JFK.

Deep State! Deep State!

Donald Trump will repeal and replace Obamacare.

Donald Trump will pay off the federal debt in eight years.

Anyone who lies has no credibility. Except Trump.

It is everyone’s job to meekly fall in line with Trump’s claim Saddam never had WMDs, after you spent 12 years claiming Saddam did have WMDs.


It’s okay to still vote for Trump if he commits murder on Fifth Avenue. What the hell, he’s broken all the other Commandments thousands of times, what’s one more?

Obummer used a “Muslim prayer curtain” as a backdrop in the East Room for public appearances.

...Fox News said there was a "stand down order", and there was no stand down order…

The Blaze said a Mexican was stuffing an Arizona ballot box, and that Mexican was NOT stuffing an Arizona ballot box…

Breitbart said Chuck Hagel met with Friends of Hamas, and there is no such thing as the Friends of Hamas.

Bill O'Reilly said he was in combat, when he was a thousand miles from combat...

Fox News said the Marines guarding our embassy in Egypt were denied live ammo, and our Marines were NOT denied live ammo…

The right wing media hacks said 93 million people will lose their employer health insurance by the end of 2014, and 93 million people have NOT lost their health insurance…

Laura Ingraham said Obama was going to be impeached within three weeks, and Obama was NOT impeached…

Fox News said you can print ballots at home in Colorado, and you CANNOT print ballots at home in Colorado…

The credulous were told Michelle Obama and Elizabeth Warren had deleted Hillary from their Twitter accounts, and they did NOT delete Hillary from their Twitter accounts…

The rubes were told Obama demanded to be sworn in on the Koran, and Obama did NOT demand to be sworn in on the Koran…

The credulous were told Obama banned Christmas cards on Military Bases, and Obama did NOT ban Christmas cards on military bases…

Fox News reported Obama banned Nativity scenes by Executive Order, and Obama did NOT ban Nativity scenes…

The credulous were told Obama cut God out of his Thanksgiving addresses every year, and believed it without even…you know…LOOKING to see if that was true, and Obama did NOT leave God out of any of his Thanksgiving or Christmas messages…

Fox News reported Obama used his own money to keep a Muslim museum open during a government shutdown, and Obama did NOT use his own money to keep a Muslim museum open during the shutdown…

World News Daily reported Obama wears a Muslim ring which says “There Is No God But Allah”, and Obama does NOT wear a Muslim ring which says “There Is No God But Allah”…

Fox News reported “far more children died last year drowning in their bath tubs than were accidentally killed by guns”, and far more children died from accidental gun deaths…

Fox News reported the Texas School Board of Education is considering banning references to Christmas and the Constitution, and the Texas School Board of Education is NOT considering banning references to Christmas and the Constitution…

The credulous bleeved Operation Jade Helm was a joint UN/US government takeover of the American southwest…

The credulous fell for a hoax that said Obama has banned the Pledge of Allegiance…

The credulous fell for a hoax about a Bill Clinton rape video…

The credulous fell for a hoax that Yoko Ono had an affair with Hillary Clinton…

The credulous fell for a hoax about a postal worker destroying Trump ballots…

The credulous fell for a hoax that Clinton’s campaign chairman wrote a racist screed that was actually written by a Netherlands nazi…

Donald Trump and millions of his Chumps fell for a hoax that John Podesta wrote something about Benghazi that a Newsweek reporter actually wrote…

The credulous fell for a hoax the Oregon mass shooter was on a Russian terror watch list which Obama refused to take…

The credulous fell for a hoax that the Pope said there is no true religion and there is no hell…

The credulous fell for a hoax about a Hillary body double on 9/11…

The credulous fell for a hoax video about Democratic primary voting fraud which was actually a video of Russian voting fraud which had been deliberately manipulated…

The credulous parroted a lie that Obama was trying to get us all killed by Ebola, and that Ebola was going to kill millions of American that year…

The credulous fell for a hoax about Obama being snubbed for handshakes…

The credulous fell for the “death panels” hoax…

The credulous fell for a hoax that 70 Congressional Democrats are members of the Communist party…

The credulous fell for a hoax that DHS had bought 1.6 billion rounds of ammo…




Okay, your turn. Go!

 

[justoffal]

Okay, thanks.

Now lets compare notes about "fact-free attack mode" hoaxes. I'll give you the right wing hoaxes, you give me the left wing hoaxes.

Ready?



Paul Pelosi was involved in a lover's quarrel with his gay prostitute.

Americans are dropping like flies after taking the Kung Flu vaccine.

The Covid vaccine alters your DNA.

The Covid vaccine makes you magnetic.

Covid is no worse than the flu.

Covid is a hoax.

“Cheese pizza” is Democrat code for child pornography.

Jewish space lasers started the fires in California.

The 9/11 attacks were a US government operation.

The Parkland school shooting was staged.

Hillary Clinton and her aide Huma Abedin sexually assaulted and murdered a child, drank their blood, cut its face off and wore it as a mask.

As of September 2015, Crooked Hillary had only six months to live.

Sleepy Joe Biden will be determined to be too far mentally gone to continue in office within his first six months in the White House and Phony Kamala Harris will take over.

The Italian defense, security and aerospace company Leonardo SpA used military satellites to change votes for Trump to votes for Biden.

Deceased Venezuelan Marxist Hugo Chavez rigged Dominion voting machines to change Trump votes to Biden votes.

Donald Trump will be reinstated in the White House in August 2021.

The DNC servers are in Ukraine.

Windmill noise causes cancer.

Trump won the 2020 election.

ObaMao is a Muslim. We know this because he attended the Trinity United Church of Christ for decades and killed more Muslims than any other president, including the Muslim responsible for the greatest attack on America since Pearl Harbor.

President Trump is facing down a shadowy cabal of Democratic pedophiles, including Crooked Hillary, Barack HUSSEIN Obama, John Podesta, and other high-ranking Democrats.

Barack Obama was born in Kenya. We know this because there is zero evidence his mother ever visited there.

Deep State! Deep State!

Jeffrey Epstein was killed by Bill Clinton.


Lyin’ Ted Cruz's dad was complicit in the assassination of JFK.

Deep State! Deep State!

Donald Trump will repeal and replace Obamacare.

Donald Trump will pay off the federal debt in eight years.

Anyone who lies has no credibility. Except Trump.

It is everyone’s job to meekly fall in line with Trump’s claim Saddam never had WMDs, after you spent 12 years claiming Saddam did have WMDs.


It’s okay to still vote for Trump if he commits murder on Fifth Avenue. What the hell, he’s broken all the other Commandments thousands of times, what’s one more?

Obummer used a “Muslim prayer curtain” as a backdrop in the East Room for public appearances.

...Fox News said there was a "stand down order", and there was no stand down order…

The Blaze said a Mexican was stuffing an Arizona ballot box, and that Mexican was NOT stuffing an Arizona ballot box…

Breitbart said Chuck Hagel met with Friends of Hamas, and there is no such thing as the Friends of Hamas.

Bill O'Reilly said he was in combat, when he was a thousand miles from combat...

Fox News said the Marines guarding our embassy in Egypt were denied live ammo, and our Marines were NOT denied live ammo…

The right wing media hacks said 93 million people will lose their employer health insurance by the end of 2014, and 93 million people have NOT lost their health insurance…

Laura Ingraham said Obama was going to be impeached within three weeks, and Obama was NOT impeached…

Fox News said you can print ballots at home in Colorado, and you CANNOT print ballots at home in Colorado…

The credulous were told Michelle Obama and Elizabeth Warren had deleted Hillary from their Twitter accounts, and they did NOT delete Hillary from their Twitter accounts…

The rubes were told Obama demanded to be sworn in on the Koran, and Obama did NOT demand to be sworn in on the Koran…

The credulous were told Obama banned Christmas cards on Military Bases, and Obama did NOT ban Christmas cards on military bases…

Fox News reported Obama banned Nativity scenes by Executive Order, and Obama did NOT ban Nativity scenes…

The credulous were told Obama cut God out of his Thanksgiving addresses every year, and believed it without even…you know…LOOKING to see if that was true, and Obama did NOT leave God out of any of his Thanksgiving or Christmas messages…

Fox News reported Obama used his own money to keep a Muslim museum open during a government shutdown, and Obama did NOT use his own money to keep a Muslim museum open during the shutdown…

World News Daily reported Obama wears a Muslim ring which says “There Is No God But Allah”, and Obama does NOT wear a Muslim ring which says “There Is No God But Allah”…

Fox News reported “far more children died last year drowning in their bath tubs than were accidentally killed by guns”, and far more children died from accidental gun deaths…

Fox News reported the Texas School Board of Education is considering banning references to Christmas and the Constitution, and the Texas School Board of Education is NOT considering banning references to Christmas and the Constitution…

The credulous bleeved Operation Jade Helm was a joint UN/US government takeover of the American southwest…

The credulous fell for a hoax that said Obama has banned the Pledge of Allegiance…

The credulous fell for a hoax about a Bill Clinton rape video…

The credulous fell for a hoax that Yoko Ono had an affair with Hillary Clinton…

The credulous fell for a hoax about a postal worker destroying Trump ballots…

The credulous fell for a hoax that Clinton’s campaign chairman wrote a racist screed that was actually written by a Netherlands nazi…

Donald Trump and millions of his Chumps fell for a hoax that John Podesta wrote something about Benghazi that a Newsweek reporter actually wrote…

The credulous fell for a hoax the Oregon mass shooter was on a Russian terror watch list which Obama refused to take…

The credulous fell for a hoax that the Pope said there is no true religion and there is no hell…

The credulous fell for a hoax about a Hillary body double on 9/11…

The credulous fell for a hoax video about Democratic primary voting fraud which was actually a video of Russian voting fraud which had been deliberately manipulated…

The credulous parroted a lie that Obama was trying to get us all killed by Ebola, and that Ebola was going to kill millions of American that year…

The credulous fell for a hoax about Obama being snubbed for handshakes…

The credulous fell for the “death panels” hoax…

The credulous fell for a hoax that 70 Congressional Democrats are members of the Communist party…

The credulous fell for a hoax that DHS had bought 1.6 billion rounds of ammo…




Okay, your turn. Go!

I only need to type one item.

Russia Collusion....6 years of BS accompanied by literally thousands of lies not just Ten or even One hundred.....literally Thousands.

I have no intentions of putting that much energy into something I already know will produce a list many hundreds long.
You also know it.

As for left wing hoax buyers....you are quite capable of making your own list
and would already have produced it if you were honest about this contest.
But we know differently eh? In addition to that the hoaxes you listed do not particularly
attach on any one group unless you want to make it a very Broad category which would then
of course make the results nearly meaningless.

JO

 

[g5000]

Same source that said when police arrived they found Pelosi and DePape wrestling for the hammer?

I ask again. What security?

You asked how DePape got past security.

What security?

There was no security at the Pelosi home. Just a live feed at the Capitol in Washington DC which was not being monitored since the Speaker was in DC.


That's another dumb thing about DePape. The dumb shit didn't even check to see if the Speaker was in DC. It takes 30 seconds on the internet to find that out.

What a dumb shit. What a maroon.

But then again, the people swallowing this gay sex masturbation fantasy about the attack didn't even bother to see if the Pelosi's actually have a 13 foot wall completely surrounding their house, so...bird of a feather.

The right wing weak-minded rubes are being weaponized by their propagandists.

 

[g5000]

I only need to type one item.

Russia Collusion....6 years of BS accompanied by literally thousands of lies not just Ten or even One hundred.....literally Thousands.

One hoax? That's it!?!?

That one hoax doesn't even compare to the Jewish space laser on the Profoundly Retarded scale.

As it turns out, there was collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia. Did your propagandists keep this from you?

As for Trump himself colluding, I consistently stated my doubts he did so personally.

He certainly asked Russia to help him win, though. On the air. The whole country saw it.

But that's not the kind of "collusion" which was the subject of debate.

And Don Jr. made a very earnest, but ultimately unsuccessful, attempt to collude with Russia.

I don't think it was a coincidence that his dad announced he was going to have some really important dirt about Hilary the following Monday and that all the media would want to be there.

But when Don Jr.'s collusion attempt failed, his dad never followed through with the big presser.


So Donald Trump knew what Junior was up to.

Nevertheless, he never directly colluded himself.

So...yeah.

When you put all that up against the list I gave you, you come up short by light years.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Give up the ghost, demoquacks. Paul Pelosi was involved in some gay shenanigans

 

[g5000]

I only need to type one item.

Russia Collusion....6 years of BS accompanied by literally thousands of lies not just Ten or even One hundred.....literally Thousand

From the Mueller report:

Separately, on August 2, 2016, Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort met in New York City with his long-time business associate Konstantin Kilimnik, who the FBI assesses to have ties to Russian intelligence. Kilimnik requested the meeting to deliver in person a peace plan for Ukraine that Manafort acknowledged to the Special Counsel’s Office was a “backdoor” way for Russia to control part of eastern Ukraine; both men believed the plan would require candidate Trump’s assent to succeed (were he to be elected President).

[snip]

And in February 2019, the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia found that Manafort lied to the Office and the grand jury concerning his interactions and communications with Konstantin Kilimnik about Trump Campaign polling data and a peace plan for Ukraine.

[snip]

Manafort instructed Rick Gates, his deputy on the Campaign and a longtime employee,839 to provide Kilimnik with updates on the Trump Campaign—including internal polling data, although Manafort claims not to recall that specific instruction. Manafort expected Kilimnik to share that information with others in Ukraine and with Deripaska. Gates periodically sent such polling data to Kilimnik during the campaign.


Just to fill you in on Deripaska:

Paul Manafort served on the Trump Campaign, including a period as campaign chairman, from March to August 2016. Manafort had connections to Russia through his prior work for Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska and later through his work for a pro-Russian regime in Ukraine. Manafort stayed in touch with these contacts during the campaign period through Konstantin Kilimnik, a longtime Manafort employee who previously ran Manafort’s office in Kiev and who the FBI assesses to have ties to Russian intelligence.


So...yeah. Collusion.

Just not by Trump personally.


Manafort and Gates were convicted and jailed for laundering the money they were paid by Putin's puppet.

Then Trump pardoned them.

Ever since then, the right wing has been desperately attempting to project that crime onto the Democrats. Pretty fucking sad.

The right wing has never uttered a single syllable of criticism for the pardoning of ACTUAL money launderers.

How DO they stand the stench of their own hypocrisy?

 

[g5000]

Give up the ghost, demoquacks. Paul Pelosi was involved in some gay shenanigans

I offer you the same wager I proffered in post 89.

At long last, here's your chance to put me in my place!

 

[g5000]

Which reminds me, justoffal, there is another hoax I need to add to the list.

The FTX/Democratic/Ukrainian money laundering hoax.

That easily matches the Russia collusion thing.

You're going to need a MUCH longer list of left wing hoaxes.

 

[justoffal]

Which reminds me, justoffal, there is another hoax I need to add to the list.

The FTX/Democratic/Ukrainian money laundering hoax.

That easily matches the Russia collusion thing.

You're going to need a MUCH longer list of left wing hoaxes.

There is not a single thing that you've listed that even matches a small percentage of the Russia collusion "thing". But I think you have me wrong You think that I am standing up for the far right.... I am not. Your mistake is in thinking that you can neatly categorize the events you listed as either right wing or left wing which of course you cannot do. What you can do and what you have already done well is demonstrate that people are easily fooled and need to be more careful about what they believe at face value. I have no quarrels with you about that. However you will absolutely fail in your effort to climb to the moral high ground.
It's simply is not there.

Jo

 

[g5000]

There is not a single thing that you've listed that even matches a small percentage of the Russia collusion "thing". But I think you have me wrong You think that I am standing up for the far right.... I am not. Your mistake is in thinking that you can neatly categorize the events you listed as either right wing or left wing which of course you cannot do. What you can do and what you have already done well is demonstrate that people are easily fooled and need to be more careful about what they believe at face value. I have no quarrels with you about that. However you will absolutely fail in your effort to climb to the moral high ground.
It's simply is not there.

Jo

As I said, I consistently expressed my doubts on this forum Trump personally colluded with Russia.

Russia definitely meddled. Whether Trump directly colluded with them is doubtful. I think it is far more likely members of his team did. Manafort and Stone in particular.

Trump is acting like a guilty person. However, that may be because he is aware that some people on his team colluded with the Russians and he is trying to obstruct the attempts to find out.

That's how Nixon got burned. He didn't break into the Watergate, but he tried to protect those under him he knew were involved.

Nope. Not always. Supporters often get over zealous in their efforts to help the chief win, most times without the chief being aware.

It is a wild, partisan assumption to say Trump must have ordered his team to collude.

First, we need to have proof someone did collude. Then there is a much harder task of proving Trump ordered them to do so.

We don't even have the first yet, although Flynn's request for immunity certainly is tantalizing.

If anyone did collude, the person at the top of my list of suspects is Roger Stone. Then Paul Manafort.

I have never been convinced that Trump personally colluded with the Russians. I have little doubt some of his team did, but not Trump himself.

I have serious doubts Trump personally "colluded" with the Russians. I do suspect he was peripherally aware of what was going on, but did not actively participate, except for when he personally directed the coverup of Junior's meeting with the Russians.

Putin definitely gave Trump a leg up. Trump did not personally collude, but his campaign staff did. And his son Eric tried to.

You are very confused. I do not believe Trump colluded with Russia.

And so forth, and so on.

 

[g5000]

There is not a single thing that you've listed that even matches a small percentage of the Russia collusion "thing".Jo

You are again failing to think critically.

What was the whole operating theory behind the alleged Russian collusion?

The theory was that Trump colluded with Putin to help him win the election.

It turns out some Trump campaign people actually did collude with Russia. But for the sake of argument, we will stick to the claim Trump personally colluded and call that a left wing hoax.

Now lets take the right wing FTX hoax.

The operating theory here is that the Democrats and Ukrainian officials colluded to help the Democrats win the mid terms and the Ukrainians to get more aid.

Perfect match.


So you have a LOT of work to do to match all the other right wing hoaxes I listed.

 

[Toro]

Give up the ghost, demoquacks. Paul Pelosi was involved in some gay shenanigans