If My Advice Isn't Good Enough......

Even though I voted for Trump and support most of his programs the jury is out on what he will accomplish.

I think we have already reached the tipping point. To me the bellwether indicator is the nation's health. It's going from bad to worse regardless of our 'best' efforts to turn it around. RFKjr's heart is in the right place but his efforts are misplaced, imo. It's long past time to hold Americans accountable for their poor health.
I listed what he DID accomplish, and, clearly, both you and I voted on that basis.

But I will welcome you to the Pessimist Club.
 
While I agree the Democrat Party needs to return to its old fashioned and honorable roots, I hope it doesn't do so right away. We need their insanity to keep the majority of folks solidly behind Trump and his team who are reaching for the MAGA vision of liberty, choices, options, opportunity, prosperity for all.

They are still negotiating the most rocky parts of that road that won't be entirely publicly popular until the results of their efforts become evident.

For now we need that rocky road to look better than what a demented and deranged Democrat Party offers as an alternative. :)
I don't believe you have any worry on that score, clearly the about face will take them some time.


Here is what the brighter Democrats know......they made hugggggge mistakes on policy....from Obama on.....(why guarantee nuclear weapons to the world's worst state sponsor of terrorism?)....

And they don't want to repeat this:
After the Carter mess, it took losses in three consecutive elections before they went to "a new Democrat," Clinton.

It may take several loses before the adults take back the party, and you can see why in the posts of Democrats in this thread.
 
Since both the popular vote and electoral vote were both below average in margin historically, the Dems could quite possibly do much better by fully divorcing themselves from PC/Identity Politics bullshit and focusing like a laser beam on the middle class. If it isn't already too late.

Self-inflicted wound. There's no excuse for losing to the person who won. The Dems need to look in the mirror and get their act together. We need two strong, serious parties, and we currently have zero (0).

Maybe the DNC will install a better candidate for you 2028 but I doubt it.
 
I'm a recovering dem who finally woke up

I don't appreciate the notion of being a 'tool' , and would simply say i subscribe to 'we the peeps'

where is home???????????..............~S~
 
They got about 48% of the vote, and there are about 22% of their voters who are Bolshevik, woke, insane. I see potential there for a re-birth as an American party.

One can only hope.

That's all it is...hope. AOC is the party leader now.
 
In 2019 at a Dimocrat party debate, Biden said that should he win the presidency, there should be an immediate 'surge to the border'.
We saw the results of that invitation, and it cost the Dims dearly in this last election.
Sure, there were many factors that led to losing the White House, but the perception was that Kumalla would continue the invitation, and we would have seen millions more flood in during her four years of ruin.

If the Dims want to win the presidency, they need to make it clear to voters, that they will not announce an open-invitation again.
 
I don't believe you have any worry on that score, clearly the about face will take them some time.


Here is what the brighter Democrats know......they made hugggggge mistakes on policy....from Obama on.....(why guarantee nuclear weapons to the world's worst state sponsor of terrorism?)....

And they don't want to repeat this:
After the Carter mess, it took losses in three consecutive elections before they went to "a new Democrat," Clinton.

It may take several loses before the adults take back the party, and you can see why in the posts of Democrats in this thread.
Even Clinton wasn't exactly a new Democrat though. At least not in a good way. It took Newt Gingrich and his majority reformer Republicans plus Tim Penny and 30 some odd reformer Democrats working together to convince Clinton to do some really good things for America like significant welfare and tax reform. But it took several tries and presidential vetoes before Clinton agreed to go along with that.

Clinton wanted to be loved, admired, revered more than anything else I think. If he accomplished something of lasting value, it would probably be accidental in the shadow of his desire to be popular. I think he finally decided he would get closer to his goal agreeing to that legislation than by continuing to veto it.

But the conservative Republicans and Democrats who drove those policies saved his presidency that was tanking severely, especially in the wake of Hillary's healthcare overhaul that was so bad not even the Democrats would vote for it.
 
I see changes already.....Maher, Van Jones, the attacted on Biden by Democrats.....


Give 'em some time: they want to win elections, and they have been taught a lesson.


BTW,,,,have you noticed fewer posts/responses/attacks by the usual Democrat suspects? They're licking their wounds and don't like what has happened.
Most of what we see in here are PAID Trolls. They're often employed directly by the DNC, the DISGUSTING FILTH or are Interns for either. the DISGUSTING FILTH, especially, doesn't like to pay interns. Both like to use Under Grad students whose minds are being poisoned by perfessers. -- (Too trusting, yes, but then women usually are) ~ Beautiful Child, Stevie Nicks

A couple are run of the Mill lunatics but the Hit-n-Run posters, of which there are many, are paid trolls.

I guess you could say they're licking their wounds. Their Masters, the ones that hold their leashes, are trying to form a cogent 'message' and have called off the dogs. For now. But they can unleash them in 2 minutes. As soon as they have something to bark about.
 
That's all it is...hope. AOC is the party leader now.
I don't believe so. Recall when Bernie was beating Hillary so they loaded "special" votes to her...? The Democrasts can't allow an admitted commie to be their flag carrier......too close to reality about the party.
why do you suppose they changed the Red-Blue identifications? Red was always for communists.


  1. The progressive left, and the liberal left, while not themselves communists, share many of the same sympathies, such of redistribution of wealth, and worker’s rights, nationalizations of industry, etc, but are not quite as far left as the communists, and would not go to the same lengths as the communists to achieve their goals. This does not mean, though, that the help of these dupes is not necessary in order for the communists to achieve victory. Even at their peak, in the ‘30’s, the Communist Party of the United States never had more than 100 thousand members: so deception of the ‘dupes’ was critical.
    1. The archives tell a tale of plans and schemes between the CPUSA and the Communist International in Moscow, to dupe progressives and liberals: “go to rallies,” “don’t let them know you are a communist!,” “If anyone reveals that you are a communist, claim it is red-baiting,” “yell ‘McCarthyism!”Dr. Paul Kengor, Hoover Institution, Stanford “DUPES: How America's Adversaries Have Manipulated Progressives for a Century
"Dupes" is worth reading.
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In 2019 at a Dimocrat party debate, Biden said that should he win the presidency, there should be an immediate 'surge to the border'.
We saw the results of that invitation, and it cost the Dims dearly in this last election.
Sure, there were many factors that led to losing the White House, but the perception was that Kumalla would continue the invitation, and we would have seen millions more flood in during her four years of ruin.

If the Dims want to win the presidency, they need to make it clear to voters, that they will not announce an open-invitation again.
They pretty much announced the plan in 1965.

Before Trump graced the political landscape we had between 50 and 80 million illegal aliens living in the United States due to the efforts of the Democrat Party, seeming them as postential Democrat voters.

It stems from the 1965 Hart Cellers Act, Democrats , how planned on substituting more malleable voter for the ones who became hesitant to vote for the Leftists.

Since the 1965 immigration reform, the Democrat Party has worked tirelessly to replace Americans who were less and less ready to vote for them, with a more malleable substitute.
They’ve told you that there are 11 million, a drop in the bucket in our population…..but it’s one of the basic lies the Democrats tell.

There are between 50 and 80 million illegal aliens living, working, committing more crime than Americans, and taking untold amounts of welfare.
But….they do what they were brought here to do: vote Democrat.
 
Even Clinton wasn't exactly a new Democrat though. At least not in a good way. It took Newt Gingrich and his majority reformer Republicans plus Tim Penny and 30 some odd reformer Democrats working together to convince Clinton to do some really good things for America like significant welfare and tax reform. But it took several tries and presidential vetoes before Clinton agreed to go along with that.

Clinton wanted to be loved, admired, revered more than anything else I think. If he accomplished something of lasting value, it would probably be accidental in the shadow of his desire to be popular. I think he finally decided he would get closer to his goal agreeing to that legislation than by continuing to veto it.

But the conservative Republicans and Democrats who drove those policies saved his presidency that was tanking severely, especially in the wake of Hillary's healthcare overhaul that was so bad not even the Democrats would vote for it.
Democrats are Democrats.....but don't forget Clinton signed the wefare reform bill (that Obama killed)



After the 1994 elections, the Republican-controlled Congress passed two major bills designed to reform welfare, but they were vetoed by Clinton. After negotiations between Clinton and Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich, Congress passed PRWORA, and Clinton signed the bill into law on August 22, 1996.
 
Most of what we see in here are PAID Trolls. They're often employed directly by the DNC, the DISGUSTING FILTH or are Interns for either. the DISGUSTING FILTH, especially, doesn't like to pay interns. Both like to use Under Grad students whose minds are being poisoned by perfessers. -- (Too trusting, yes, but then women usually are) ~ Beautiful Child, Stevie Nicks

A couple are run of the Mill lunatics but the Hit-n-Run posters, of which there are many, are paid trolls.

I guess you could say they're licking their wounds. Their Masters, the ones that hold their leashes, are trying to form a cogent 'message' and have called off the dogs. For now. But they can unleash them in 2 minutes. As soon as they have something to bark about.
I only remember one who claims he is paid to post, but he is the most prodigious liar on the board.
 
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