Zone1 We Know Men’s duties and obligations to women, but what are women’s duties and obligations to men?

[Paradoxical#1]

That doesn’t mean anything. Your beliefs and interpretations are at odds with the Catechism. You are not a credible witness or spokesperson. That would be like having a Sox fan singing praises for the Yankees.

Have you ever heard of the "No true Scotsman" canard?

 

[ding]

Have you ever heard of the "No true Scotsman" canard?

Sure. How do you think it applies to this?

 

[Paradoxical#1]

Sure. How do you think it applies to this?

No true Christian

Except YOU, of course.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Says one who wasn't taught by nuns, studied the bible, was an altar boy, went to church regularly

I will give you a little help, when it comes to religions - Ding is going to bury you. I do not know him well. But I have been here a long time, you have not - you are way outmatched

 

[Anathema]

Quoting the bible is being biased?

Quoting the Bible, it any other religious text is a joke. Organized religion is probably the worst thing humanity has ever created.

The inferiority of women doesn’t require a religious text for confirmation. Common sense combined with basic biology and psychology make it quite clear that Males are superior to females.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I must live in a different world. All the young people I know have good jobs.

Methusaleh lives in dementia land. His watch and calendar are still set to 1990 when he retired.

 

[ding]

No true Christian

Except YOU, of course.

Is that what you think I was saying when I said you are not a credible witness for Catholicism?

Your beliefs and interpretations are at odds with the Catechism.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

I will give you a little help, when it comes to religions - Ding is going to bury you. I do not know him well. But I have been here a long time, you have not - you are way outmatched

Let me help you. I have had dozens of interactions with the dingbell and have destroyed him every time. I have debated religion all my life.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

Quoting the Bible, it any other religious text is a joke. Organized religion is probably the worst thing humanity has ever created.

The inferiority of women doesn’t require a religious text for confirmation. Common sense combined with basic biology and psychology make it quite clear that Males are superior to females.

I agree with your first sentence but the next one is only partially true. Women are only inferior with regard to physical strength, which used to be the deciding factor. Now the law and police take care of the men who beat their wife.

 

[Anathema]

I agree with your first sentence but the next one is only partially true. Women are only inferior with regard to physical strength, which used to be the deciding factor. Now the law and police take care of the men who beat their wife.

Not just in strength. Mentally as well. Men are typically Logical, whereas women are Emotional. Thats not even worth comparing. Logic trumps emotion every time.

Only if the women are stupid enough to open their mouths. My wife is aware that the moment she decides what happens in our relationship needs to be discussed with ANYONE other than me, the relationship is OVER, permanently. This has frustrated her therapist for more than a decade.,

 

[Paradoxical#1]

Is that what you think I was saying when I said you are not a credible witness for Catholicism?

Your beliefs and interpretations are at odds with the Catechism.

That I studied the "catechism" and am at odds with it NOW is because it is stupid. When I was a believer, I was a TRUE Christian. I never once said I am still a cult Catholic.

It is a common ploy for those who call themselves a Catholic will always accuse those who are also a Catholic but disagree with their warped beliefs that they never were, or are a "true" Catholic.

In order to save face, when a formerly devout believer leaves, the one still standing there will say, "He never really was a true Christian."

Dingbell: He said there may be some mistakes in the bible. He's no true Christian
Man: He attends mass every week
Dingbell: That doesn't make him a Christian. He doesn't go to confession.
Man: He says confession to a priest isn't in the bible.
Dingbell: It doesn't have to be. The lord says we must repent.
Man: He's told me he believes in a heaven.
Dingbell. I happen to know he doesn't believe in a hell and Jesus talked about Hellfire.
Man: That wasn't a real hell. It was about a local dump always on fire.
Dingbell: I still say he is no "TRUE" Christian and never was. I am though

 

[Paradoxical#1]

Not just in strength. Mentally as well. Men are typically Logical, whereas women are Emotional. Thats not even worth comparing. Logic trumps emotion every time.

Only if the women are stupid enough to open their mouths. My wife is aware that the moment she decides what happens in our relationship needs to be discussed with ANYONE other than me, the relationship is OVER, permanently. This has frustrated her therapist for more than a decade.,

You sound like a guy that women would fawn over and want to be controlled by.

PS. The fifties are over and long gone.

 

[Anathema]

You sound like a guy that women would fawn over and want to be controlled by.

PS. The fifties are over and long gone.

It’s not about control. It’s about partnership.

The fifties were a great, if imperfect time. We can do better than the fifties if we choose to. Unfortunately we would rather destroy ourselves.

 

[ding]

That I studied the "catechism" and am at odds with it NOW is because it is stupid. When I was a believer, I was a TRUE Christian. I never once said I am still a cult Catholic.

It is a common ploy for those who call themselves a Catholic will always accuse those who are also a Catholic but disagree with their warped beliefs that they never were, or are a "true" Catholic.

In order to save face, when a formerly devout believer leaves, the one still standing there will say, "He never really was a true Christian."

Dingbell: He said there may be some mistakes in the bible. He's no true Christian
Man: He attends mass every week
Dingbell: That doesn't make him a Christian. He doesn't go to confession.
Man: He says confession to a priest isn't in the bible.
Dingbell: It doesn't have to be. The lord says we must repent.
Man: He's told me he believes in a heaven.
Dingbell. I happen to know he doesn't believe in a hell and Jesus talked about Hellfire.
Man: That wasn't a real hell. It was about a local dump always on fire.
Dingbell: I still say he is no "TRUE" Christian and never was. I am though

Apostates are not credible witnesses as demonstrated by your made up dialogue with yourself.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Apostates are not credible witnesses as demonstrated by your made up dialogue with yourself.

He is a legend in his own mind, his own expert.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

Apostates are not credible witnesses as demonstrated by your made up dialogue with yourself.

I find these mental gymnastics among what I call "believers" to be mind-boggling. You are the king of cognitive dissonance and your responses are like what Jordan Peterson responds with vagaries, subject changing, ignoring the question and answering a question not asked. I realize all Christians exhibit cognitive dissonance as a protective measure that stops any new or different evidence or facts from entering their brains, but you are unique in that regard.

You seem blissfully unaware of the "no TRUE Scotsman" fallacy and ignore the comparison and toss out a word that I am familiar with as being used by devout evangelicals---apostate. That was a word the nuns would throw out in derisive tones to dismiss anyone who wasn't on board with the teachings of the church.

You see, everyone else was wrong who didn't believe what the "church" taught. They were apostates if they stepped out of line in the least. That was a way of demonizing all those who weren't in their camp. This is the behavior of a cult.

Some say there are over a hundred different denominations in Christianity and all of them say YOU are as wrong as a dingbat.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

He is a legend in his own mind, his own expert.

I think you should stick to politics, as this area is not your strong suit.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

I think you should stick to politics, as this area is not your strong suit.

I know it isn't, trouble is - you think it is yours.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

I know it isn't, trouble is - you think it is yours.

I don't THINK it's mine. I KNOW it is. I lived it, and you didn't. My large family were Catholics. I have debated Christians who are experts in the bible for decades at a place called CARM. I have listened to thousands of hours of videos and debates with priests, pastors against atheists and non-believers, and neither you nor anyone else here has. Many people here who claim to be Christians have not read or read very little of the bible and believe the story because their ancestors did. I detect you as one of those. AS FOR dingbat, he is more educated in the bible than you are, but that means nothing because he has not listened to non-believers or atheists and is rigid. He is one of the worst debaters I have encountered, and I merely toy with him for my amusement.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

I don't THINK it's mine. I KNOW it is. I lived it, and you didn't. My large family were Catholics. I have debated Christians who are experts in the bible for decades at a place called CARM. I have listened to thousands of hours of videos and debates with priests, pastors against atheists and non-believers, and neither you nor anyone else here has. Many people here who claim to be Christians have not read or read very little of the bible and believe the story because their ancestors did. I detect you as one of those. AS FOR dingbat, he is more educated in the bible than you are, but that means nothing because he has not listened to non-believers or atheists and is rigid. He is one of the worst debaters I have encountered, and I merely toy with him for my amusement.