War With Syria: Yea Or Nay?

[The T]

It depends exactly where they are on the sea. Since we'll never know, that is a fruitless conversation.

I said MOUNTING Russian ground forces and moving them up towards the Syrian border. If they do that, surely we wouldn't invade Syria to repeat myself.

Seems Israel does KNOW...

Originally Posted by QuickHitCurepon

Yea, that sounds good but not something to rely on. We don't care if Iran get into it, since it would provide good practice and maneuvers for Iran for later on. We'd relish an easy solution to Iran. If Russia does more than protest and actually mounts forces then yea, we wouldn't invade. But they know if Russia is doing that or not. If Russia doesn't mount forces, I doubt we'll worry about it. I could be wrong.

When someone says mounting forces, they are talking about ground forces, and I clarified that for you. I don't know why you continue to talk about 2 warships Russia sent to the area that they say is unrelated.

I see the parsing...Naval forces are what they are...are not Sailors warriors as well?

I fail to see it. Do our Naval forces, ANY Naval force escape you and WHAT they are capable of? (And NO I am NOT demeaning ground forces, AIR forces, or anything else. I am amazed at you dismissing their Navy...).

You may stop parsing now. YOU haven't a clue. Force is force regardless where it comes from. They're humans sent by their governments to do damage to opposing humans and their government in whatever capacity.

They are being sent to CALL US OUT because they know Obama will back down.

Clear enough?

~The T, OUT.

 

[The T]

Russia isn't going to do shit, one way or another... other than maybe to call Assad if they spot an incoming cruise missile.

They don't have that kind of muscle and would get massacred if they were foolish enough to shoot first.

Compared to US assets in the Mediterranean Basin and Europe in general, and those that can be pulled in from the Atlantic and Indian Oceans on damned-short notice, he Soviet presence in the Eastern Med is a flea.

However their weakness? THEY are being sent to intimidate Obama to see what he does next. ALL bets are he will back down. Putin is calling Obama OUT.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

Seems Israel does KNOW...

When someone says mounting forces, they are talking about ground forces, and I clarified that for you. I don't know why you continue to talk about 2 warships Russia sent to the area that they say is unrelated.

I see the parsing...Naval forces are what they are...are not Sailors warriors as well?

I fail to see it. Do our Naval forces, ANY Naval force escape you and WHAT they are capable of? (And NO I am NOT demeaning ground forces, AIR forces, or anything else. I am amazed at you dismissing their Navy...).

You may stop parsing now. YOU haven't a clue. Force is force regardless where it comes from. They're humans sent by their governments to do damage to opposing humans and their government in whatever capacity.

They are being sent to CALL US OUT because they know Obama will back down.

Clear enough?

~The T, OUT.

At first, I didn't specify what forces were being mounted, since most people would think of ground forces. When you come up with 2 ships as a mounting force, in my first comment to you, I made it clear I was talking about ground forces.

If you want to talk about something different than I'm talking about, go ahead, but it's got nothing to do with what I said. Right buddy?

Anyway how could two smaller troop ships designated as not involved in a conflict ever be thought to be mounting a force? LOL

 

[dilloduck]

When someone says mounting forces, they are talking about ground forces, and I clarified that for you. I don't know why you continue to talk about 2 warships Russia sent to the area that they say is unrelated.

I see the parsing...Naval forces are what they are...are not Sailors warriors as well?

I fail to see it. Do our Naval forces, ANY Naval force escape you and WHAT they are capable of? (And NO I am NOT demeaning ground forces, AIR forces, or anything else. I am amazed at you dismissing their Navy...).

You may stop parsing now. YOU haven't a clue. Force is force regardless where it comes from. They're humans sent by their governments to do damage to opposing humans and their government in whatever capacity.

They are being sent to CALL US OUT because they know Obama will back down.

Clear enough?

~The T, OUT.

At first, I didn't specify what forces were being mounted, since most people would think of ground forces. When you come up with 2 ships as a mounting force, in my first comment to you, I made it clear I was talking about ground forces.

If you want to talk about something different than I'm talking about, go ahead, but it's got nothing to do with what I said. Right buddy?

Anyway how could two smaller troop ships designated as not involved in a conflict ever be thought to be mounting a force? LOL

troop ships ?

 

[The T]

When someone says mounting forces, they are talking about ground forces, and I clarified that for you. I don't know why you continue to talk about 2 warships Russia sent to the area that they say is unrelated.

I see the parsing...Naval forces are what they are...are not Sailors warriors as well?

I fail to see it. Do our Naval forces, ANY Naval force escape you and WHAT they are capable of? (And NO I am NOT demeaning ground forces, AIR forces, or anything else. I am amazed at you dismissing their Navy...).

You may stop parsing now. YOU haven't a clue. Force is force regardless where it comes from. They're humans sent by their governments to do damage to opposing humans and their government in whatever capacity.

They are being sent to CALL US OUT because they know Obama will back down.

Clear enough?

~The T, OUT.

At first, I didn't specify what forces were being mounted, since most people would think of ground forces. When you come up with 2 ships as a mounting force, in my first comment to you, I made it clear I was talking about ground forces.

If you want to talk about something different than I'm talking about, go ahead, but it's got nothing to do with what I said. Right buddy?

Anyway how could two smaller troop ships designated as not involved in a conflict ever be thought to be mounting a force? LOL

NOW backtracking? Really?

~T- OUT.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

Seems Israel does KNOW...

When someone says mounting forces, they are talking about ground forces, and I clarified that for you. I don't know why you continue to talk about 2 warships Russia sent to the area that they say is unrelated.

mount1


/mount/


verb

verb: mount; 3rd person present: mounts; past tense: mounted; past participle: mounted; gerund or present participle: mounting



1.



climb up (stairs, a hill, or other rising surface).


"he mounted the steps to the front door"


synonyms: go up, ascend, climb (up), scale More


"he mounted the stairs"



antonyms: descend



•
climb or move up onto (a raised surface).


"the master of ceremonies mounted the platform"


synonyms: climb on to, jump on to, clamber on to, get on to More


"the committee mounted the platform"




•
get up on (an animal or bicycle) in order to ride it.



synonyms: get astride, bestride, get on to, hop on to More


"they mounted their horses"




•
set (someone) on horseback; provide with a horse.


"she was mounted on a white horse"



•
(of a male mammal or bird) get on (a female) for the purpose of copulation.




•
(of the blood or its color) rise into the cheeks.


"feeling the blush mount in her cheeks, she looked down quickly"





2.



organize and initiate (a campaign or other significant course of action).


"the company had successfully mounted takeover bids"


synonyms: organize, stage, prepare, arrange, set up; More

https://www.google.com/search?sourc...0l4.0.0.0.62397...........0.-W567c1JK7k&pbx=1

Yea, if you send in an armada, that can be mounting a force.

 

[The T]

*sigh*

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

I see the parsing...Naval forces are what they are...are not Sailors warriors as well?

I fail to see it. Do our Naval forces, ANY Naval force escape you and WHAT they are capable of? (And NO I am NOT demeaning ground forces, AIR forces, or anything else. I am amazed at you dismissing their Navy...).

You may stop parsing now. YOU haven't a clue. Force is force regardless where it comes from. They're humans sent by their governments to do damage to opposing humans and their government in whatever capacity.

They are being sent to CALL US OUT because they know Obama will back down.

Clear enough?

~The T, OUT.

At first, I didn't specify what forces were being mounted, since most people would think of ground forces. When you come up with 2 ships as a mounting force, in my first comment to you, I made it clear I was talking about ground forces.

If you want to talk about something different than I'm talking about, go ahead, but it's got nothing to do with what I said. Right buddy?

Anyway how could two smaller troop ships designated as not involved in a conflict ever be thought to be mounting a force? LOL

NOW backtracking? Really?

~T- OUT.

No, I never let people misrepresent what I say, even though I know that's real popular on USMB. They never get away with it.

 

[dilloduck]

When someone says mounting forces, they are talking about ground forces, and I clarified that for you. I don't know why you continue to talk about 2 warships Russia sent to the area that they say is unrelated.

mount1


/mount/


verb

verb: mount; 3rd person present: mounts; past tense: mounted; past participle: mounted; gerund or present participle: mounting



1.



climb up (stairs, a hill, or other rising surface).


"he mounted the steps to the front door"


synonyms: go up, ascend, climb (up), scale More


"he mounted the stairs"



antonyms: descend



•
climb or move up onto (a raised surface).


"the master of ceremonies mounted the platform"


synonyms: climb on to, jump on to, clamber on to, get on to More


"the committee mounted the platform"




•
get up on (an animal or bicycle) in order to ride it.



synonyms: get astride, bestride, get on to, hop on to More


"they mounted their horses"




•
set (someone) on horseback; provide with a horse.


"she was mounted on a white horse"



•
(of a male mammal or bird) get on (a female) for the purpose of copulation.




•
(of the blood or its color) rise into the cheeks.


"feeling the blush mount in her cheeks, she looked down quickly"





2.



organize and initiate (a campaign or other significant course of action).


"the company had successfully mounted takeover bids"


synonyms: organize, stage, prepare, arrange, set up; More

https://www.google.com/search?sourc...0l4.0.0.0.62397...........0.-W567c1JK7k&pbx=1

Yea, if you send in an armada, that can be mounting a force.

I think these ships only represent part of the force that is being MOUNTED. Russia has other stuff I think.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

*sigh*

Go back and click on one of my comments that you can comprehend. Okay?

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

I think these ships only represent part of the force that is being MOUNTED. Russia has other stuff I think.

We are talking about his link about two small troop ships.

 

[Geaux4it]

Look- At the end of the day, this shit is serious. Anytime you get multiple players in close proximity shit happens. Plus, word is the Sanai is becoming into play.

No oil, no peace

Smoke em if you got em

-Geaux

 

[Kondor3]

Russia isn't going to do shit, one way or another... other than maybe to call Assad if they spot an incoming cruise missile.

They don't have that kind of muscle and would get massacred if they were foolish enough to shoot first.

Compared to US assets in the Mediterranean Basin and Europe in general, and those that can be pulled in from the Atlantic and Indian Oceans on damned-short notice, he Soviet presence in the Eastern Med is a flea.

However their weakness? THEY are being sent to intimidate Obama to see what he does next. ALL bets are he will back down. Putin is calling Obama OUT.

Well, on the one hand, you've got an ex-KGB operative, karate master, hunter and carnivore...

On the other hand, you've got a community organizer and State legislator from Chicago's South Side who completed a couple of years in his Rookie Term as a US Senator before being anointed by the Party Faithful as the New Messiah and being thrust into a position for which he was totally unprepared...

I wonder which side that Smart Vegas Money would back in a pissing contest?

 

[Kondor3]

Now crossing the Line of Departure... lock and load, ladies...

 

[The T]

Russia isn't going to do shit, one way or another... other than maybe to call Assad if they spot an incoming cruise missile.

They don't have that kind of muscle and would get massacred if they were foolish enough to shoot first.

Compared to US assets in the Mediterranean Basin and Europe in general, and those that can be pulled in from the Atlantic and Indian Oceans on damned-short notice, he Soviet presence in the Eastern Med is a flea.

However their weakness? THEY are being sent to intimidate Obama to see what he does next. ALL bets are he will back down. Putin is calling Obama OUT.

Well, on the one hand, you've got an ex-KGB operative, karate master, hunter and carnivore...

On the other hand, you've got a community organizer and State legislator from Chicago's South Side who completed a couple of years in his Rookie Term as a US Senator before being anointed by the Party Faithful as the New Messiah and being thrust into a position for which he was totally unprepared...

I wonder which side that Smart Vegas Money would back in a pissing contest?

And the ODDS must be astounding. Only a FOOL bets on the latter. These boards are replete with fools, and enablers.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

Look- At the end of the day, this shit is serious. Anytime you get multiple players in close proximity shit happens. Plus, word is the Sanai is bcoming in play.

No oil, no peace

Smoke em if you got em

-Geaux

Caught my attention, alright.

I'm smokin' like cray today.

 

[paulitician]

This should be taken up in Congress. It should be fully debated. However, it doesn't seem likely that will happen. And that pretty much sums up our Nation these days. The People just don't have much say.

 

[Kondor3]

Just to put a 'face' on things....

The Russian Navy guided missile cruiser Moskva, built in 1979, ordinarily part of the Black Sea Fleet, and rumored to be departing the North Atlantic and steaming for the Med...

Russian cruiser Moskva - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

An example of a Udaloy (Russian Navy large anti-submarine ship) -class destroyer, in this case, the Admiral Panteleyev...

Russian destroyer Admiral Panteleyev - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

...although the identity and nomenclature of the 'large anti-submarine ship' is not actually known at this point...

...which rounds-out the two (2) ship deployment that has been in the news today.

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Enough to be troublesome, but not exactly what you'd call 'decisive'.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

This should be taken up in Congress. It should be fully debated. However, it doesn't seem likely that will happen. And that pretty much sums up our Nation these days. The People just don't have much say.

It was and is probably just a matter of time before desperation set in. Assad is no fruitcake like Kadafi was in a way. He has loads of backing, until all hell breaks loose.

Didn't Hillary Clinton start talking about that line two years ago? It wasn't red at first. They knew Assad would cross one line or another in time. I started shaking my head when the line was introduced.

I'm all for reminding Middle Easterners how crazy and dangerous Americans are. And it'll stimulate the economy. But really, there's no reason for us to get in on that.

If Obama hadn't opened his big mouth about a red line that by the way has seem to gotten really, really wide in recent months, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Obama has almost backed himself and the American people into a corner with that comment and now he has to do something. And if he does the wrong thing and attacks Syria he and his liberal supports will lose political support at home....now we all know he won't do that.
Case closed.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

Maybe we ought to consider a Golden Rule in foreign policy: Don't do to other nations what we don't want happening to us. We endlessly bomb these countries and then we wonder why they get upset with us. -Ron Paul